Chris Denker of Net Scouts Basketball and I talk about the draft.

  1. A complete breakdown of Vesely, who many think is the top European player on the Raptors big board. Can he play the 3 at the NBA or does he need to be a 4? Is he a project who is a few years away or can he contribute now? Do the Raptors need a “Finesse Four”?
  2. We talk about Valanciunas vs. Kanter – who does Cleveland like at #4, and more importantly, who is a better fit for the Raptors?
  3. Two inside scoops concerning Kanter’s age and Valanciunas’ buyout (why is he rising so fast in the charts despite having an apparently big buyout?)
  4. The Jorge Garbajosa of this year’s draft.
  5. The Benetton Treviso connection.
  6. The Adidas Eurocamp and the performance of Bismack Biyombo is scrutinized, why is he falling and where should he realistically be picked?
  7. Has Valanciunas hurt the draft stock of other players?
  8. Chris weighs in on the ever-going Kemba Walker vs. Brandon Knight debate.
  9. On the Raptors options if they trade down, or acquire a second first-round pick.
  10. Why the Raptors need to draft a big, and not a point guard.

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Don’t forget, the RR Draft party is on Thursday, June 23rd at 6:30PM at St. Louis Bar & Grill at Yonge/Wellesley. Sure to be a good time, see you there!

  • Sapasap

    Another hater of Enes Kanter. You guys will be sorry for this…

    • Jeffrey Thompson

      I personally believe Kanter should be the first pick

    • Forever Rise

      OK?!?!? Kanter will be like Spencer Hawes. 

  • Triano?

    Passing on Kanter for Walker or Vesely would be epic, cementing Colangelo’s legacy as a Raptors’ GM.  While it is possible that Kanter may not live up to the hype, Walker and Vesely are both bench players.

    • Nilanka15

      What could you have possibly seen from Kanter that puts him that far ahead of Walker in your books?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DANSRO43XQD3CLQZ2JFM5JZRQI 2damkule

        don’t be such a hater…didn’t you see the moves kanter was putting on those chairs!  put yi to shame, i tell ya…

      • Triano?

        Opinions of Kanter (a highly-skilled, 6’11, 280 lb center) aside, Walker is an undersized scoring-guard who can’t shoot, pass, or defend.  I’m not sure where Walker fits in on a winning time (other than on the bench).  

        • Nilanka15

          But describing Walker as undersized isn’t accurate.  He’s the same height as Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo, Jameer Nelson, etc.  Plenty tall enough to play PG.

          And describing him as a scoring guard isn’t accurate either.  He played that role out of necessity last year, but according to analysts who bothered to base their opinion on more than one year, Walker’s a terrific passer.  Jim Kelly said so himself.

          As for his fit on a winning team, who wouldn’t want a guy capable of making plays under pressure, hitting clutch shots, leading a team single-handedly, and has a taste of championship success?

          As for lacking defensely, can you really blame Jim Calhoun for wanting his only offensive threat to stay on the floor, by not taking too many chances defensively?  That won’t be the case in the NBA next season.  There’s no reason why Walker can’t learn to defend better, in the same way we expect DeRozan and Bayless to improve defensively.

          I’m not saying Walker’s the next Magic Johnson, but he’ll be a very solid NBA player.  The Raptors would be wise to seriously consider him with the 5th pick.

          • ak

            chris paul is one of a kind, rondo has like 7′ wingspan and nelson is just not that good.

            for an undersized guard you have to have other facets of the game nailed down to be effective.
            rondo’s deadly D and passing. so as chris paul, add to that some sick handles too.

            lack of elite level skills can turn a rondo into brooks rather quickly.

            • Nilanka15

              Rondo didn’t have elite level skill when he was drafted.

              • ak

                yes he did, he had his defence.

                • Scottbbaird

                  nope

              • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RCWVIXH72H7GPHMFZ2B3HGJ3TM Alec

                he didn’t get drafted in the top5 either

            • Nilanka15

              BTW, according to DraftExpress, Paul’s wingspan is 6’4″.  Walker’s wingspan is 6’3″…..big freakin’ deal.

              • Nilanka15

                My bad, I now realize you were talking about Rondo’s wingspan.

        • YeDig

          wrong.

    • points

      no wonder tot dad let you go triano. walker is the clear #1 in the draft and tot dad will pick him,walker and DD will be our batman and robin. june 23 watch raptors pick the best player in the draft CARDIAC KEMBA …some call themselves champion but they never won nothing

  • pran

    In my opinion not taking valanciunas or kanter, whichever one is available (I personally think one of the two will be availible), will be a huge fail, of course BC will never take valanciunas, b/c the chance of him not coming here this year will probably result in his dismissal, which is stupid b/c completely bombing next season will put us in a nice position for the stacked draft next year.

    • Sam Holako

      Just to be clear; if/when the Raptors tank this season, it wont be because Valanciunas didn’t play, it will be because they lack enough talent to win.

      Also, BC’s future wont be based on wins/losses but more on executing on a plan and seeing positive, incremental (whatever metric they want to use to measure this) improvement to the team.

      • sleepz

        Complete agreement on the Raptors losing because of a significant lack of talent.

        I also agree that BC’s future won’t be based entirely on win’s and losses but improvement. What I think will be of greater importance for his future is how soon he can get a replacement GM in place to create some insulation for him and deflect criticism from current state of the team under his watch.

      • Juicey

        We don’t need to debate why the Raptors will tank this season, we just know they will.  They have lost without talent, they have lost with talent.  They have lost with limited rosters, they have lost with full rosters.  It doen’t really matter what the circumstances, they will find a way.

        • Beaverboi

          Raptors slogan for 2011-12 ” We will find a way”

          • guest

            LOL

            yeah it should be “We will find a way”, and the trio of players shown should be Harrison Barnes, Anthony Davis, Jared Sullinger (all expected top picks next year)

      • onemanweave

          I hope you are right. There is also the chance that BC will try to implement measures to ensure short term gain ( two years?) ahead of long term.
            One of the great selling points for some people on here is that Kemba will be ready to provide help next season. What exactly are the Toronto Raptors going to win next season?
           The consideration should be to draft the player who is going to help the team most over the long haul. If Valanciunas, just using an example, has the best chance to be the big man they so badly need, is two years too long to wait for him to develop?
            Again, I hope Colangelo has the foresight and character to do what is best for him team and not for himself. It will be interesting.

        • Nilanka15

          It’s a dangerous game when drafting based on “potential”.  A player is never guaranteed to reach that potential.  Using your example, if Valanciunas is considered to have the most potential, it’s possible that in 3-5 years, he isn’t a better player than he is today.  It’s also possible that he turns into Pau Gasol.  It’s a total crap shoot….nobody knows.

          On the other hand, a guy like Walker is a safer pick because he’s more NBA-ready.  But since he also fills a hole at PG, the safer pick can also be the smart pick.

          And lastly, just because a player is considered NBA-ready, it doesn’t mean he’s reached his ceiling.  An NBA-ready player can still improve his game.

          • onemanweave

            Good post. What you say makes sense.  However, except for the occasional LeBron there are no sure things when drafting. Even ‘safe’ picks sometimes aren’t.
               You need hard work, good scouts and some luck. I’m just saying go for the guy you think will give you long term value, whether or not he’s the most NBA ready.
               Failing to aim high isn’t a guarantee. Arrujo wasn’t drafted to be the next Jordoan. He was seen as a steady banger who could do the dirty work. Maybe, for the Leafs, he could have.

  • Mediumcore

    If the Raptors are going to use that 5th pick the chances are that they will go with Kemba Walker, as Knight will likely not be available. Kemba is at the very least more NBA ready than any of the other prospects from Europe, so should be able to contribute right away.

    I’m most excited though to see how much progress Demar has made over the summer. I’m expecting him to make a serious leap forward with his b’ball IQ catching up to his athletic abilities. I look for him to surpass Joe Johnson as the Easts second best SG next season.

    • Nilanka15

      Love the optimism.  I hope you’re right about DeRozan. 

      The Drew League highlights are fun to watch, but they don’t show anything other than dunks and layups.  Unfortunately, we can’t tell if he’s improved his defense or 3-point shooting from those videos.

      • Mediumcore

        They say the 3rd year is when a player really starts to hit their stride. He’s always had great athletic ability, but I don’t think the IQ was there yet. A guy who spends that much time in the gym will eventually catch up mentally and physically so I really think this kid can be an All Star some day ….maybe not a starter, but after Wade and Joe Johnson only an aging Ray Allen stands between Demar and a spot on the Eastern Conf All Star Team.

  • YeDig

    Am I the only one who thinks Kemba is a safer pick than Brandon Knight?  There is a TON of upside with Knight, but what if he never reaches that potential like so many players before him?  I feel like Walker has the quickness and the IQ to contribute right away and has the intangibles to be a big time player.   Anyone agree??

    • Nilanka15

      Totally agree.  I’m not sold on Knight as a PG at all.  He’s got good physical dimensions, and athletic ability, but what’s the point of drafting a PG who doesn’t know how to play PG?

      5 years later, we’re still waiting for Bargnani to learn how to play centre.  Let’s not make the same mistake again by putting too much emphasis on Knight’s “potential”.  If Knight was 3 inches taller, he’d be an ideal shooting guard based on his current skillset.  He’s not a PG.

      • Statement

        Kemba Walker WS/40 when he was 19 = 6.6
        Brandon Knight’s WS/40 this year = 4.7

        Kemba outproduced Brandon when both were the same age.

      • Statement

        Kemba Walker WS/40 when he was 19 = 6.6
        Brandon Knight’s WS/40 this year = 4.7

        Kemba outproduced Brandon when both were the same age.

        • Mediumcore

          It was also Kemba’s 3 year in college.

          • Mediumcore

            Just read the same age part…disregard.

      • Bigbalboski79

        Nilanka, why you sucha hater on kemba?  unless knight of kanter are there, kemba will be our pick.  bottom line:  he is the most nba ready, and BC needs the team to get better fast./  remember, he got a two year extension. the truth is, you have no idea whether he is a good enough passer/playmaker at the nba level.  he was asked to be a scorer on a low scoring team.

        we can only go by how his workouts have went, and plenty of teams disagree with your assesment of his PG skills.  he wont slip past #7 and Sacto.

        here’s the part about your analysis that gets me:  the nba has become a PG league with guys like derrick rose lighting it up for 25 ppg.  and the fact that he has huge character/leadership attributes would be a huge asset on this team.  unless knight or kanter slip, i think kemba is a no brainer.

        • Nilanka15

          Did you even bother to read my post?

    • Juicey

      Actually Henry Abbot just put out an article on that today:

      http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/30332/get-to-the-point-knight-vs-walker

      He takes Walker over Knight.  Though it even seems he’s saying Bayliss over Knight as well.

      PS:  Points, your welcome.

      • Nilanka15

        Great find.  The key piece is:

        “…let’s use one of the key metrics for evaluating point-guard prospects: pure point rating (PPR), which calculates assists and turnovers into a single number projection of how a particular player will fare as a distributor in the NBA. The average PPR of all current NBA starters while they were in college is 1.2. Walker had a 1.5 PPR in college. It also took him only 18 minutes per game to get a steal or block and he was able to score inside. His upside is the same or slightly better than Knight’s, but he is definitely a safer pick — his chance of failing is less than one out of 10. There are no red flags on Walker, making him a one-out-of-three shot of becoming a good player at the next level. Knight, meanwhile, has a one-in-four chance of being good, but the numbers suggest that his chances of success ride heavily on his shooting ability, not his passing. Knight had a minus-1.4 PPR in college, which is extremely low for a point guard — lower, in fact, than any NBA starting point guard’s college PPR except for Stephen Curry, who did not play point guard until his third and final year at Davidson.”

        Why is Knight considered a point guard again?  Utah picking Knight with the 3rd pick will be the best thing to happen to Toronto.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RCWVIXH72H7GPHMFZ2B3HGJ3TM Alec

          Stats don’t lie, but they don’t tell the whole story

          Knight has better court vision, better shot, can finish in traffic.
          Whats most appealing is that he has the kind of mentality Demar does. Wants to get better and knows his worth.
          I don’t know how good he will be, but I know that Kemba is a bench player and we don’t need those

          • Nilanka15

            Knight has good court vision???  Where did you come up with that juicy nugget?  If anything, court vision is one of Knight’s deficiencies.

          • Nilanka15

            And Walker can finish in traffic with the best of them.

          • Nilanka15

            If given the minutes (and remains healthy), Walker will be in the running for ROY.  There isn’t a doubt in my mind about that.

            • Statement

              Kawhi Leonard WS/40 as 19 year old = 12.8
              Kemba as 19 year old = 6.6
              Knight as 19 year old = 4.7

              Leonard, please.

              • Nilanka15

                I’m liking Leonard a lot too.  Assuming Irving and Williams are gone, it would be a toss up between Walker and Leonard for me.  I’d be happy with either one using our 5th pick. 

                I would gladly take both over Kanter, whose stock seems to be dropping a bit lately (regardless of his age).

                Fairly ridiculous pic:

                http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2011/06/16/when-kawhi-met-holly/

                • Bendit

                  Guess he must hold on to the ball well. His rbd. #s are good I hear.

                • Nilanka15

                  They say that rebounding is the most transferrable skill from college to the pros.

            • points

              cardiac should be given the same or more minutes as DD in his first year turn the kid loose.

              2 champions coming to the raptors june 24 2011 {casey/kemba}

      • points

        thank you

  • Buddahfan

    I agree that the Raptors need to go Big if either Kanter of Valanciunas is available.

    At least one European scout says that Valanciounas will have a buy-out in place by next Thursday.  We shall see.

    There is one other possibility and that is Williams

    Here is how it could happen

    The T-Wolves alreay have W. Johnson at SF who they drafted last season and they really like his upside.   Love is locked in at PF.   The T-Wolves were impressed by Kanter during his workout for them and he could play Center.   The T-Wolves still have Beasley at SF along with previously mention Johnson.  So there is a strong possibility that the T-Wolves would want Kanter.

    So the draft could go like this.

    1.  Irving
    2.  Kanter
    3.  Knight
    4.  Valanciunas
    5.  D Williams – Bingo

    • Nilanka15

      With a talent like Williams still on the board, it’s very hard to envision Minnesota, Utah and Cleveland drafting by position, rather than taking the best player available.  Williams would be a great trading chip that could theoretically get Minnesota or Cleveland a big man, or Utah a point guard via trade (plus additional pieces).

      The thought of the Raptors landing Williams (without moving up) is wishfull thinking at best.

    • Mediumcore

      But what would keep Utah and Clevland from drafting D Will? Utah has always been known to love point guards, but then again Jerry Sloan had a lot to do with that. Now with the Sloan era in the past Utah may not care so much to acquire a point guard. Can’t see D will slipping that far down the draft ladder.

    • Bendit

      I think there is a greater chance Williams goes #1 than falling to #5.

    • Bigbalboski79

      cleveland willnever let D Will slip past the $.

  • Nilanka15
    • 511

      Interesting article. Thanks. 

  • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

    I disagree with a whole lot this guy says.  

    First of all, Kanter was born in Switzerland, as stated, and Switzerland is not not one of those third world countries where you can fudge your age.  In fact, I’d probably guess it’s one of the most difficult places in the world to do that.  I’d think it would be fairly easy to go and check his age.

    I don’t understand the comparison of Valanciunas to Pau Gasol.  Valanciunas is very raw offensively who is not a threat facing the basket, whereas Gasol was a skilled offensive player.  About the ONLY similarities are size and weight.  And there are A LOT of guys that share those features.

    I also think it’s a little scary how much this guy seems to like Motiejunas, who is skilled, but unfortunately not in the area of defense and rebounding.  And he thinks Toronto might draft him?  I’d be willing to bet money they won’t, and I don’t bet.

    Denker seemed to focus a lot on the fact the Raptors need a PG and C, when position is the absolute last thing they should worry about. When a 22 win team starts picking for position, instead of just trying to draft the best player, they are setting themselves up for disaster.

    I also completely disagree about trading down.  9 times out of 10, trading down simply nets you a worse player.  And that’s the last thing the Raptors should be doing.  The Spurs didn’t have success with that.  They had success because they were drafting down there anyway and have the best scouting department in the entire league.  If they drafted higher, I’m guessing they would have drafted even better players.

    • ak

      lol, i would say you read my mind on gasol, but i kind of let it out already. i guess its +1 to you buddy.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DANSRO43XQD3CLQZ2JFM5JZRQI 2damkule

      i certainly can’t disagree with what you’re saying; i know you’re big on the raps drafting kanter if he’s available, and i see why.  what troubles me is the simple fact that he’s (IMO) relatively unknown.  we haven’t seen him compete ‘for real’ in quite some time, and his reticence to participate in workouts (at least in which he’s going against non-chairs) puts me off somewhat.  it may mean nothing, but reading between the lines, it tells me that he either feels that doing so would hurt his draft stock, or those advising him believe that to be the case.  i’d just like to see people who are, esentially, going for a job interview actually answer questions.  instead, he’s relying on old info, reputation & the fact this is a weak draft (at the top) to maintain his position.  i also find it odd that you’re down on a guy like leonard because – at least in part – of his poor shooting in one of his workouts.  at least he’s working out with & against humans.

      • Nilanka15

        I agree about Kanter’s uncertainty.  But I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on the solo workouts.  All these kids are just listening to their agents who have nothing but $$$ on their minds.  For example, a single workout can seemingly take Biyombo from a top 10 pick, out of the lottery altogether….or Fredette from the late 1st round, into the top 10.

      • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

        I would have loved to have seen more of Kanter, too, but I actually have fewer real questions about Kanter than I do about most of the other players, despite his lack of experience.  

  • ak

    there is no fucking way jonas is a gasol type player.

    gasol has always been known as a skilled offensive player. it is not like he was sushi raw that suddenly became an inside/out post player with the passing ability. he had a disposition to it from day 1.

    you don’t just take a 7′ skinny kid and say he is like gasol just because he mobile and weak. that is total bull.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DANSRO43XQD3CLQZ2JFM5JZRQI 2damkule

      yeah…i kind of see them as mirrors of each other.  similar size/builds, but with opposite skillsets at the same age….gasol was & always has been a polished  (relative to his size/position) offensive player, while jonas is, IMO, a better natural defender, and unpolished offensively.  the one thing i like about him (jonas) over a few of the other bigs in this draft is that he seems to have a killer motor & desire to rebound & defend…and plays with grit.  he’s not going to be labelled soft.

  • Pesterm1

    dont forget , gasol is a rare player. he is very inteligent and was raiws very well by his parents. h is no almost a doctor and says thats what he would like to do after the nba. saw this on a documentary on nba tv canada.

    • Pesterm1

      raised very well*

      • onemanweave

        The Raps already have too many guys who were raised very well. They need a street urchin like Rodman who could wipe glass like a squeege kid.

  • Sek99

    Everyone seems to think that Raptors are destines lottery team next year. I don’t see that necessarily. The east is still gonna be just as shitty as it was last year, and we actually had a shot to make it a quarter of the way through the season. IMO, if we play defense under a new coach, we make the playoffs on paper right now (never know with trades and injuries). Defense is so much a player thing as it is a mindset. I used to think Bosh was atrocious on defense, meanwhile he goes to the Heat and they become one of the best defensive teams in the league with him, a barely walking Big Z, an undersized C in Anthony, and a good but also undersized PF in Haslem, who was injured most of the season. It’s clear that Bargs isn’t held accountable for defense. Nor is any other raptor really. If we get the right guy (whether it’s Kanter, Walker, Leonard maybe) I can see us going to the playoffs. Collins turned the 76ers, and they actually got worse this year by replacing Sammy D with Hawes and drafting Turner who hasn’t shown anything yet. People need to put things in perspective and understand a new coach could bring a new dynamic in along with making the proper pick.

    • Sek99

      *Defense isn’t so much a player thing. . .

    • points

      cardiac is the one gonna make this happen playoffs, ROY

  • hateslosing

    If there is no issue with Valciunas’ buyout I think he is my pick. I’ve always liked what I read about him, particularily that he loves playing in the pick and roll and is focused on defense. I don’t really see the Pau Gasol camparison since Pau had a much better face up game when he came in. Val is probably actually closer to a Noah or Varijau right now in that his strongest attribute is his motor and his desire to play D. Maybe he could become a Gasol but I thin that is probably a long shot.

  • Omar

    Kanter’s age could very well be an issue.It is actually quite common in middle east for some parents to lower the age of their children. It is very irrelevant that he was born in Swiss because the change probably happened when the parents were trying to get a birth certificate for him in Turkey.
    Those people who think this is impossible because he was born in Swiss are obviously not familiar with Middle East. For a Great example, Look at Soccer scandals that were recorded by Fifa for the youth competition in that region. Some times, almost 5-6 players were much older than their birth certificate and … It was a mess.

    • barenakedman

      You are issued a birth certificate by the country you are born in.
      If you are born in the middle east and then move to Canada you are not issued a Canadian birth certificate.
      Kanter is the age his Swiss birth certificate says he is. 

      • Omar

        again, you do not know how things work. I am from that region and as I said, just looked at the problems that they had in youth soccer few years back ( google it). As far as his age on Swiss birth certificate, how are you assuming he is showing his swiss and not his Turkish ??  

        I know this is hard to grasp for you Canadian and European people but this is HOW things work on that region. I remember few soccer players showing the birth certificate of their younger brothers to the National team and …

        The opportunity to grow over there is NOT like here. being younger 3 years makes a big difference if you are talented to began with and can open youth national team doors, scholarships and … to you.

        All I am saying is that this is quite common over there and I am not saying that this is the CASE with Kanter for 100% and I hope it is NOT But it is not as uncommon as some of you think here.

        • Nilanka15

          I think what j bean was saying is that nobody would pay attention to Kanter’s Turkish certificate (if he even has one).  It’s essentially a fake ID. 

          It’s common knowledge Kanter is born in Switzerland, so why would NBA officials accept anything other than a Swiss certificate?  Whether or not Kanter has a Turkish certificate, and whether or not it has the correct date on it, is irrelevant as far as the NBA draft is concerned.

          I sincerely hope you’re not suggesting that the NBA, and youth soccer leagues in the Middle East, use the same screening processes…

          • Omar

            Oh, if this is what he meant, then I apologize as I misunderstood him. It is a great ID to look at his Swiss Birth Certificate instead of the Turkish one given that he has it and is not lost and …

            All that being said, even if he is 22, Raptors should take him if he is on the board. He is a great tough young player that will fit in very well with our team.

            I know Chad ford is giving him hell right now on ESPN podcast and …. but Kanter is the real deal.

        • barenakedman

          Corruption isn’t a concept that is hard to grasp for Canadians and Europeans. Many of us have traveled overseas or even to Mexico and know how bribery works. Though not as openly prevalent as it is throughout many parts of the world, here in the west and in Europe there are thousands of cases of political, judicial and industrial corruption involving billions of dollars annually. Even the NBA has been tarnished by corruption. 
          One thing I do find amusing is that Middle Eastern countries whoregulate dress, alcohol consumption and religious beliefs etc on the basis of superior moral integrity are the worst offenders when it comes to ethics in business and government.   

          • Omar

            Fully Agree, the corruption in that region is unbelievable despite the more religious shape of the society and I think it is due to lack of regulation and infrastructure to support any valid regulation processes.

            • barenakedman

              +1

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B32FGJ2BOTMWNQTMO2XEDRGBCA JW

    The Jorge who?   Are we talking about the player most likely to play basketball when he is injured for foolish pride and then not honour his contract?   The player most likely to bolt for Russia and play for the love of money? 

  • points

    all i’m saying is if tot dad draft a Euro with the 5th pick him and his staff should be replace fri.june 24 2011  for real

  • points

    we got 2 champions coming to the raptors {casey/kemba} and yet people want to be in the lottery next season…playoffs please the kids needs to taste it next season  

  • Statement

    I just looked at Kawhi’s %TS in college, much worse than I thought and worse than James Johnson and Julian Wright.

    If we draft him and intend for him to start, Derozan better make some Terry-like improvements in his shot.

    • Nilanka15

      Apparently Leonard has been working feverishly on his shot since the season ended, and has already made noticable improvements.  And with an extended offseason on the horizon, he could very well be the next Larry Bird once opening night rolls around 😉

      • points

        NILANkA, 10 sec left in the game and your down 2 you got pewhi leonard and cardiac on your team who do you want taking the last shot? we need a guy like that, you know who he is.

            motherjumping,anklebreaking,clutchshooting #5 pick ROY
            

        • Nilanka15

          lol, you know I like Kemba.  But what if we’re down 30, instead of 2, thanks in large part to our inability to defend and rebound (two areas where Leonard can help immensely)?  There would never be a chance for Kemba’s late-game heroics 😛

          • points

            our defence will change once casey gets here,and i don’t see them letting teams go that high on them, it a keep it close game next season thats how we’ll know if our defence is any good.
            [just messing with you]

  • Dan

    This is what Raptors need to do. They need to do Draft Lenoard and they can do this by even trading down. They can maybe manage to do a 3 way trade that will bring in Jennings, while alllowing Raptors to move down and draft Lenoard. Then you have the following:

    Jenning DD Davis and Lenoard 

    Wow, this is a hard nose team with some attitude. 

    • points

      DUMB RAPTORS FANS

      the commish fix the draft so raptors could draft  the bast player with the 5th pick and all i’m hearing about is euro,pewie and people who never won anything ,do you guys know how many guys are in the hospital and and may never walk again because they tried to guard our 5 pick you know who he is

  • Balls of Steel

    If Knight and Kanter is off the boards, Valanciunas it is!

    • points

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