The draft order in the event of a cancellation was discussed recently by the NBA. They suggested they might use 5-year or 3-year aggregates combined with a formula which would consider the teams that didn’t make the playoffs. Below are the aggregates only, and based on this the Raptors would be slotted to pick 13th and 7th in the case of a 5-year or 3-year method being applied, respectively.

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Last Five Seasons

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RK Team W L PCT

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1 Minnesota Timberwolves 110 300 0.268

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2 Sacramento Kings 137 273 0.334

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3 Los Angeles Clippers 143 267 0.349

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4 New Jersey Nets 145 265 0.354

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5 Washington Wizards 152 258 0.371

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6 Memphis Grizzlies 154 256 0.376

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7 New York Knicks 159 251 0.388

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8 Milwaukee Bucks 169 241 0.412

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9 Indiana Pacers 176 234 0.429

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10 Charlotte Bobcats 178 232 0.434

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11 Oklahoma City Thunder 179 231 0.437

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12 Golden State Warriors 181 229 0.441

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13 Toronto Raptors 183 227 0.446

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14 Philadelphia 76ers 184 226 0.449

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15 Miami Heat 207 203 0.505

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16 Detroit Pistons 208 202 0.507

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17 Atlanta Hawks 211 199 0.515

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18 Portland Trail Blazers 225 185 0.549

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19 Chicago Bulls 226 184 0.551

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20 New Orleans Hornets 227 183 0.554

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21 Cleveland Cavaliers 241 169 0.588

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22 Utah Jazz 245 165 0.598

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23 Houston Rockets 245 165 0.598

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24 Denver Nuggets 252 158 0.615

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25 Phoenix Suns 256 154 0.624

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26 Boston Celtics 258 152 0.629

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27 Orlando Magic 262 148 0.639

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28 Los Angeles Lakers 278 132 0.678

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29 San Antonio Spurs 279 131 0.680

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30 Dallas Mavericks 280 130 0.683

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Last Three Seasons

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RK Team W L PCT

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1 Minnesota Timberwolves 56 190 0.228

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2 Sacramento Kings 66 180 0.268

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3 Washington Wizards 68 178 0.276

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4 New Jersey Nets 70 176 0.285

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5 Los Angeles Clippers 80 166 0.325

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6 Golden State Warriors 91 155 0.370

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7 Toronto Raptors 95 151 0.386

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8 Detroit Pistons 96 150 0.390

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9 New York Knicks 103 143 0.419

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10 Indiana Pacers 105 141 0.427

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11 Philadelphia 76ers 109 137 0.443

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12 Memphis Grizzlies 110 136 0.447

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13 Charlotte Bobcats 113 133 0.459

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14 Milwaukee Bucks 115 131 0.467

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15 Oklahoma City Thunder 128 118 0.520

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16 New Orleans Hornets 132 114 0.537

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17 Houston Rockets 138 108 0.561

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18 Phoenix Suns 140 106 0.569

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19 Utah Jazz 140 106 0.569

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20 Atlanta Hawks 144 102 0.585

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21 Chicago Bulls 144 102 0.585

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22 Cleveland Cavaliers 146 100 0.593

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23 Miami Heat 148 98 0.602

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24 Portland Trail Blazers 152 94 0.618

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25 Denver Nuggets 157 89 0.638

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26 Dallas Mavericks 162 84 0.659

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27 San Antonio Spurs 165 81 0.671

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28 Boston Celtics 168 78 0.683

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29 Orlando Magic 170 76 0.691

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30 Los Angeles Lakers 179 67 0.728

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ON6Z4EVX6JKGPWNTTWYQNWHZP4 Ramunas

    Better would be only last season ūüėÄ

    • Juicy

      Best would be play this season.

  • Brian Gerstein

    Raps had they played this season would be a bottom 5 team for sure, so either scenario if chosen we get screwed.  The 5-year aggregrate makes no sense.  At least a 3-year aggregrate will more realistically capture the teams that need help and I can live with the 7th pick.

  • Darien

    I think that is straight up bullshit if they use either of those aggregates. Teams that are bad enough to be getting those kinds of draft picks over the past 3 or 5 years already got to pick their next generation of stud players and will only be getting another shot at more of them? I’m hoping enough players go broke fast enough that they run up a 50 game season that the raptors can slosh through and get something nice for once.

  • Jeff

    Should be a weighted formula that includes last 3 or 5 years, but weights most recent years more heavily.  That would make most sense (which means it probably will not be like this).

    ie. to get total # wins per team:  2011 wins(x3) + 2010 wins(x2) + 2009 wins(x1)

    • ezz_bee

      totally agree, weighting ¬†is very important. ¬†I mocked up a spreadsheet with different weights but no matter how you weight it is is unlikely we’ll get a 5 seed or lower.

  • Nilanka15

    The 5-year aggregate seems too far-fetched, especially when you consider the Knicks and Thunder would be picking ahead of us.

    If the goal of the draft is to help improve weaker teams, then adding a top-10 pick to a roster including Melo and Amare, seems counter-intuitive.

  • Dfaddasf

    I don’t want to think how fat Bargs is going to be when the season starts.¬† If he plays in Europe he’s going to go back in to his lazy state of mind and I don’t want to think about his defence.¬†¬† Everything he learned in the NBA about D would just go down the drain…

    • Ole

      He didn’t learn anything in the NBA about D.

    • Ihatehaters

      Get back under your bridge, Dfaddasf.

      • Millybob

        You guys know this is a RR bot posting, right?

  • Juicy

    Either way it’s very interesting for the Cavs.¬† Seeing them at the 21st spot in the 5 year aggregate has got to be kinda painful if you sat through the last season.¬† But the real funny thing is that there is a clause in the Lebron-trade with Miami that¬†Cleveland gets whichever is pick is in a better position between the two teams.¬† Obviously Miami allowed the clause as they never saw the chance¬†team would fare worse than a¬†Lebron-less Cleveland.¬† But in the 5 year aggregate that’s exactly what happens.¬† So in that case, Cleveland could jump from 21st to 15th.¬† Dan Gilbert may be a douche, but he is smart.

    As bad as a system that rewards failure is, having a system that rewards long term failure feels much worse.¬† Somehow giving the number one pick to Minnesota would be sad.¬† They are in this position of failing the worst over both three and 5 years, because they have absolutely no clue what they are doing.¬† There isn’t really a better system, but they really shouldn’t be rewarded.

  • Nilanka15

    Why not use the same criteria used to determine the 2011 draft order?¬† Doesn’t it make more sense than using aggregates of any kind?¬† We conduct another lottery to determine picks 1-14, and then go sequentially based on finish for picks 15-30.¬† All of this would be based on the last full season played…which was the 2010-11 season.

    • Juicy

      This would actually work really well, and would be reasonable because last season’s draft was so weak (and well¬†documented as being weak due to so many players not¬†declaring).¬† Seeing as last season’s draft¬†will probably result in so few impact players, it’s¬†not completely unfair to hold teams in their current positions.¬†¬†Teams like Cleveland and Minnesota may be double rewarded, but it’s hard¬†to say Cleveland doesn’t deserve¬†it, and Minnesota will¬†be likely be rewarded regardless of what system is conjured up by the NBA.¬†

    • Ihatehaters

      Good idea. I was thinking a combination of the two (i.e. 3 year aggregate to determine ping pong balls, then lottery). That way, it reduces the inherent bias of a team being double-rewarded for failing in the year immediately prior to the lockout.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DANSRO43XQD3CLQZ2JFM5JZRQI 2damkule

    was it solely aggregates to determine the actual order, or were the aggregates used to determine the weighting for a lottery?  the NHL Рafter their lockout Рdid it thusly:

    The Draft Drawing, a weighted lottery system, was used to determine the order of selection for all seven rounds of the Entry Draft. Under the weighted lottery system, the clubs that neither qualified for the Stanley Cup Playoffs in each of the 2001-02, 2002-03 and 2003-04 seasons, nor were awarded the first overall selection in each of the 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004 Entry Drafts, had the greatest chance of receiving the first overall selection, 6.3 per cent. These clubs were the Penguins, Buffalo Sabres, Columbus Blue Jackets and New York Rangers.Ten clubs met one of the seven criteria listed above and had a 4.2% chance of winning the Drawing, while the remaining 16 clubs met more than one of the criteria and had a 2.1% chance.Forty-eight balls, numbered one through 48, were placed in a lottery machine. Three ball numbers were randomly assigned to each the Penguins, Sabres, Blue Jackets and Rangers; two ball numbers were assigned to the 10 clubs with a 4.2% chance; and one ball number was assigned to the 16 clubs with a 2.1% chance. The first ball expelled determined the winner of the first overall draft pick and it had been assigned to the Penguins.After the first overall selection was awarded, another ball was expelled to determine which club, from among the 29 remaining, received the second overall pick. This process was continued until each of the 30 first-round draft positions was assigned.PICKS IN SUBSEQUENT ROUNDSThe order of selection for the second round of the Entry Draft will be inverse of the order of selection for the first round (i.e. the club that selected 30th overall in the first round will select first overall in the second round). The order of selection for the third round will be the same as the order of selection of the first round and the order of selection will alternate each round thereafter.

  • CalgaryRapsFan

    I prefer using the 3-year aggregate records as the basis to hold a standard NBA draft lottery.  Once the standings are set, with Toronto #7, the draft process would be the same as it was this year, with the Raps having 4.3% chance of getting the #1 overall pick.

  • Mediumcore

    Stupid question but does anyone know if Rogers has an channels for NCAA basketball? Is Bell better?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DANSRO43XQD3CLQZ2JFM5JZRQI 2damkule

      the Score usually carries the most college ball games during the week.¬† there’s also a college sports channel that’s part of my package (i’m with bell), and they have some pretty obscure games on, but it’s mostly football at this time of year…once the college bball season really gets going, they have more games.

      • Mediumcore

        Thanks! Been thinking of switching to Bell.

        • Nilanka15

          Bell is good a product, as long as you can stomach their awful customer service upon sign-up

          • Anon

            You are crazy, it’s a mediocre product with a ridiculous price tag.

        • MackNorth

          Don’t expect to watch much TV if there are snow storms or rain storms! Some aspects of Bell are very good, but that is one downfall. I’ve been with both Rogers and Bell in the last few years and I’d say I prefer Rogers. They have some better packages as well as being cheaper.

    • News Flash

      you  can watch all NCAA games at First Row Sport

  • Raps Loyalist

    I bet they would do a system where they use the last 3 years but skew it so it gives more weight to the more recent seasons…something like 2010-2011 (50%) 2009-2010 (35%) 2008-2009 (15%).¬† That would seem like the most fair thing to do.

    The good thing about this upcoming draft is that it’s super deep and the Raps could get a really good player selecting anywhere in the top 10.

  • Rodolphus Lestrange

    as much as it sucks for us look at the cavs! 2nd worst team getting the 21/22 pick, UNACCEPTABLE

    • Anon

      Except they just got Irving and Williams. I don’t feel bad for that franchise. They had a chance to do big things with Lebron and blew it.