The “ahhhh…..now I get it: THAT is how a real team plays” edition:

Bargnani: lost? If you gave him a GPS and a compass, he wouldn’t be able to find north right now. Safe to say the only advantage he is bringing his team right now is forcing the opposition to cover him. Not long until they realize they could throw a mop out there and throw Bargs of his (achem) “game”.

Bayless: stepped on the court, let out an internal scream that rivalled the howl that RapsFan let out when he picked up his iPad3.

Calderon: with Bayless’ pointer acting more like a curve, the monster sized minutes came to rest on Jose’s shoulders again. 40 tonight that saw him slow down in the second half and absolutely get scorched by John Lucas. Jose may as well have whipped out a sleeping bag at centre court and taken to counting sheep.

Davis: what do you do if you are a young player that is tapped as the future of a franchise and you are facing one of the best teams in the NBA?  Well, if you are  a Tar Heel, you do what UNC players do best since Jordan:  you turtle and ask to be held, afraid the big boys are gonna get ya.

DeRozan: somebody showed up in battle fatigues today wanting to kick some candy ass…and it was a Bambi looking SOB. DeMar was the man with the plan on the court tonight, but in the fourth quarter it must have been cracked by the Bulls bench.

Forbes: the guy just keeps getting another shot. Truthfully he played fine tonight and distributed the ball well, but I’d still rather have a 3 legged turtle coming off the bench on most nights.

Gray: 6 and 8 in 17 minutes the night after having kittens on the court. He still looked a bit distracted, but he was also the only effective big man tonight.

A. Johnson: as if the uniforms weren’t bad enough, Amir decides to wear Martian style kicks. The only thing more hideous than those things would be having a business meeting at Taco Bell.

J. Johnson: can’t believe they had this fool address the crowd and the troops before the game. He deserves that honour because….??  He went on to be one of 2 Raptors that scored in double figures, though, so maybe we should make him team spokesman and get this performance every night.

Kleiza: nobody looked scarier in the camos than Linas. I half expected to see him enter the game wearing a helmet with bracnches sticking out of it and a rifle strapped to his back. He looked like a deer hunter that took a wrong turn and ended up in the city.

Driving the bus: DeMar DeRozan

Under the bus: Ed Davis

Theme of the Game:

  • hotfuzz

    I didn’t think he could do it. But bargs is back to his old old self. Atleast he could score last year.

    • Destro

      What old self..it was 13 games…

    • DigBick

      No, he is doing this on purpose to aid in the tanking effort. He’s doing this in hopes of playing with an actual good player via the draft in the future, not utter trash like he’s been playing with for the past 5 years.

      • yonas

        sure

      • Scottbbaird

        Raptors dont draft good players… They draft “potential”.

  • Lorenzo

    Well…

    Good news is for the next two games we’ll be on the floor against two teams that will give us no hope of winning.

    Now if only Charlotte and New Orleans could start winning some games…

  • guest1

    I laughed my ass off on the Kleiza comment.  Once I got that visual in my head I couldn’t stop.  Thanks for the laughs after such a sad game.

  • Tim W

    We should have traded AB right before the trade deadline when his value was high because now, he is back to being his old AB. the Honeymoon is over People. This is the AB that we all got to know and NOT love over the years. 

    This team is fundamentally flawed and I can not see even 1 positive. 

    When BC drafted DD, fan here cheered with Joy, claiming this was a great pick. 3-4 years later, we are not even sure if DD is an starter in this league.

    Ed Davis was considered by Raptor fans as the steal of the draft and … People were excited and … 2 years later, he can not even perform consistent against the bench warmers of the other teams.

    Amir Johnson signing was compared to Gooden and people raved about BC’s genius in converting Delfino to Money Weems and FreeAmir. Now, Gooden is scoring 20 and grabbing 10 rebounds a nigh as a starter while Amir struggles under AB and as a bench warmer. Weems is no where to be find.

    How do we know big Val will not be the same story ?
    How can we trust BC with another draft?

    Isn’t this time for Raptor fans to wake up ?

    • JM

      DD was picked 9th Davis 13th. You have a very small chance of getting somebody good that low, and there is a reason for why both of them went that low – they are both projects. For such an average pick they are doing ok.  You cannot expect to get a D-Rose that low in the draft.

      And please don’t start bringing up examples of player that go chosen lower and became all-start. That’s just stupid cause they are few and far in-between 

      • Brian B

         You can’t claim both that they are “projects” and that the odds are against finding good players that low in the draft. Which, btw, Landry Fields was second round; Paul George was 11th; Joe Johnson was 10th; Jodie Meeks was second round. Though Meeks has given way to Turner, until recently fully half the playoff teams in the East started SG drafted lower than DD. Hardly few and far between – that would be Kobe Bryant, drafted 13th.

        They aren’t projects, they’re suspects.

        • Bob

          Lol what? Fields, George, and Meeks aren’t exactly lighting up the leaque.

          • Brian B

             But they start on winning teams. Perhaps they illustrate that expectations need to be realistic- DD is and likely always will be a capable role player, yet he tries to be and do more, and thus, fails. Though George still struggles, both Fields and Meeks are very good at fitting into their roles. By anointing DD to start without earning the job, and anointing him as the centerpiece of the young gunz, the Raps did him no favours, and exposed the bankruptcy of their “strategy”.

            • CJT

              So does Chalmers, does that make him a good pick or someone the Heat can afford due to their salaries?

    • Colef

      Tim W got hacked haha

    • Lorenzo

      Haha, nice try “What the”…… I can tell by the fucking horrific grammar.

      Almost as bad as mine.

    • Jeff

      Is there EVEN ONE position in this TEAM that after 7 years of BC being here, we can say , hey, we are GOOD to GO !!!! Hell NOOOOO

      • Theswirsky

        Even the cheerleaders are worse

      • Nilanka15

        Totally agree.  Everyone should be up for grabs if the right trade came along.  There isn’t a single player on this roster worth holding onto at all costs.

    • RapthoseLeafs

      .
      oops … I hit Liked instead of reply. Definitely a wrong choice.

      As off as Bargs was in shooting, there’s a reason he was -2 for the game. Fact is, before he entered the 4th Quarter – with the Raps down 74-72 – Andrea was +8.
      .

      When the wheels fell off in the 4th Quarter, it was a TEAM effort that let this happen. That, and Back-to-Back games, with the 2nd one coming against the hottest team in the League (that was rested). A team that on Monday, smoked the Magic, allowing ONLY 59 points.

      As for some of the Bigs, Noah – who was with AB quite a bit on both sides of the Court – had 8 pts, 8 Rebounds, and a -3. Boozer was 8 pts – 3 Rebounds, and a -6.
      .

      You haven’t been around for a while Tim, but of course, when Bargnani struggles to get back into form, you return. Why can’t you hang around during the TIM dog days (when AB was showing us what his potential is). You make some great points at times, but I swear you feel jilted by this team, and its’ history. That’s the past. And I think our future has potential. Maybe it won’t be realized, but damn … give it a chance. BC is doing exactly what some have wanted …. keep the Draft picks.

      Of course you’re not just here to trash Bargs, but everything else. I for one, was pleased with our team tonight. Add a Bayless to the mix, and who knows what might’ve happened. In fact, this is what I believe makes Jarryd valuable – just not as our Starting PG. But that’s another matter.

      Jose played 75 minutes with less than 24 hours between games. AFTER coming back from an injury.
      .

      As for our OTHER picks, Ed has one big problem right now. He needs bulk. And some REAL training camp – not this BS shortened season.

      As for Demar, yeah … he’s had a bit of a roller coaster ride. But he’s 22 f*#king years old. With really only 2 preseasons, after a short stint in College.

      Then there’s JV.
      I almost regret having to see him stutter at all next season, else the bi-polar fans out there will chew him down to the bone, like someone should do to Rush Limbaugh and his slut hunting gang.
      .

      What I don’t get with some of the complainers, that wash in and out of here, is how people WANT … WANT … the top pick (and to lose in the end), and here we have a great game for 3.5 quarters, but NO, that’s not f#cking good enough. The Bulls are hot right now, and we put up a good fight. Our top shooter is a recovery slump, and we have ONLY one PG. Hell, I think we did damn good tonight.
      .

      End of rant. lol

      • 2damkule

        you just spent 485 words replying to someone who isn’t THE tim W.

      • DC

        Shut the hell up with your AB dickriding for 5 paragraphs. 

    • Steve

      I would be interested to see you blog about this on the Picket Fence, but I thought you were an Amir fan calling him the best player in the team, and you also used to compare James Johnson to Pippen :). Get back to work on the picket fence, maybe you can give us some advanced statistics on why Bargnani is the worst player in the league of all time. Good to have ya back ol’ pickety pick fence guy :):)

    • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

      Just so people know  This is not me.  It’s just someone who desperately wants to be me but hasn’t come to grips with the fact it isn’t going to happen.

      • 2damkule

        this is what the republic has become…

      • John

        Are you the only Raptor fan with first name Tim and last name that starts with W ???

        • CJT

          Yes, yes he is.

    • NyAlesund

      Please, shut up! What do you want? Do you want to see this team win now? Do you want the high pick? Do you want to trade AB, JC, DD and ED? What do you really want?

      This is a weak team playing in a crazy rs, with a lot of injuries that not help them of playing a solid games. On the other hand, we are facing team that have a long roster and tonigh the Bulls showed how this was real. In fact it was “sufficient” Lucas to split the game. In the meantime Boozer and Noah were sit on the bench laughing behind Thibo’s back. Why? Simply, because that team was built to win the title.

      So, instead to complain everytime Primo Pasta failed the game, Calderon victmize, DeRozan awful….we have to wait the end of this crazy season and build a real competitive team. Is useless this continuous attack the players when is clear what kind of limit they have. The next season we will have a better roster and only then we can evaluate correctly everyone. No excuses, no alibi.

  • Bendit

    Can the league have us just play 3 qtrs.?

  • Destro

    You have to be a really dreadful team to get beat by John Lucas III….

    • CJT

      Like the Heat?

      • Destro

        No Raptors….Lucas doesnt beat good teams he beats teams with Calderon starting at PG…

    • Lorenzo

       And the Magic?

  • Timothy W

    We need to stop drafting ghetto boys and focus on talented euros

    • DC

      You sound fucking stupid.

  • Multireem

    Demar hoisted 36 shots for 23 pts! 36 shots! Bargs got off 12 shots! 36 shots and none of them when we needed him most! Triple the shots of bargs! The honeymoon is over, but for demar. This kid is just awful. The starting two guard on an NBA team must perform better than this! He was driving the Wang express all night!

    • Destro

      25 shots….

      • RapthoseLeafs

        Not to be picky, but that would be 10 shots for Bargs.

        • Destro

          Bargs could average 25 on 10 shots as long as he rebounds TWICE a game it dont matter,he’ll still be a useless bum…

      • Multireem

        It was actually 44

        • CJT

          It’s so refreshing to read a bunch of A-holes trash guys over stats that are not even accurate.  Read the box score before you post.  Not difficult.

    • Bob

       TROLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    • Bob

       Bargnani shot 2-10. AND YOU WANT HIM TO TAKE MORE SHOTS? AHAHAHAHAHHAHA

      No.

      • Multireem

        Your name is.Bob…..wtf…..

      • yonas

        2-10 ?

  • Copywryter

    Found this game eminently more watchable than our recent contests. Yeah we choked and died in the fourth, but until then there was ball movement and decent defence (thanks mostly to Chicago’s inability to generate offense off the dribble, but still) and christ even a fast break or three. We looked like a real basketball team for 36 minutes. 

    Don’t you think the Raptor’s marketing team should have brought in more armed forces personnel? I mean, we have two regiments stationed in Toronto (Royals and Queen’s Own Rifles), why not bring ’em in by the hundreds? It seemed more like a sales pitch to sell god awful jerseys rather than a genuine effort to recognize the sacrifices made by our forces and their families.

    • guest1

      A loss is a loss! Keep wearing those rose colored glasses that allow you to enjoy watching a team whose main guys choke in the fourth quarter.

      • Copywryter

        A loss to the Bulls is not a loss to the Bobcats. You should go back through my older posts. I recently described this Raptors team as one of the worst of the past decade. But in this case we lost to the best team in the league and competed for 3 quarters. I can accept that.  Lowered expectations for sure, but not rose coloured glasses. 

        • Nilanka15

          I get what you’re saying, but giving up a 20-0 run against any team, at any time, is inexcusable.

      • CJT

        Aren’t you the same guy that complains when they win?  

        • guest1

          Nope, got the wrong guy. I never complain when they win. Actually I enjoyed seeing them win against Memphis and show heart in the 4th quarter, instead of finding a loss eminently more watchable.

    • TwoSteaks

      Don’t forget the Toronto Scottish & 48th Highlanders, also in T.O.

  • JHP

    Should be interesting to see how low this team can go.  And I’m really disappointed with BC and the advise he’s been getting for draft picks.  I pray we draft no more first round projects and have to endure years of excuses.  At some point we have to see progress.  It’s kind of funny how we have the lowest team salary in the league and people say the owners are committed to winning ….

    • 2damkule

      absolutely.  BC should only draft guys who are guaranteed to be all-stars immediately.

  • knickz

    the best from last night was when paul jones said,”the raptors are playing zone but for some reason derozan is playing man to man”

    • Nilanka15

      lmao!

    • Nilanka15

      On second thought, maybe Casey was deploying a “Box and 1″ defence.  But then again, DeRozan would be the LAST player chosen to be the 1-on-1 defender…

  • sitnonDfence

    gotta love it…

    “bargs is playing really well, but its a small sample size”

    sits for 13 games and plays a couple and hes back to his old self…yet no talk about the sample size…

    its the rampant negativity of raptors FANS, that makes being a raptors fan more difficult than it already is…

    quick thought: if youre so disgusted with the managment and roster and overall vision and performance of this team, why do you watch and or care? Theres 30 other teams to cheer for…some of them would be better for your blood pressure…

    • Theswirsky

      small sample size?

      350+ games is a small sample size?  Or does that all get wiped clean when he has 13 ‘good’ games?

    • Raps4Ever

      “quick thought: if youre so disgusted with the managment and roster and
      overall vision and performance of this team, why do you watch and or
      care? Theres 30 other teams to cheer for…some of them would be better
      for your blood pressure…”

      Good on ya, but welcome what is often the cesspool of fandom. I call this group (of “fans” swimming in misery) the Raptors Repugnance Club. Sad that they seem to relish whining and beaching every chance they get, isn’t it? You’ve got a response from the commish of the pack who probably has notes on every bad play by AB in every one of those 350+ games he cites.

      AB himself is openly admitting he has played poorly since returning. He”l turn it around, but in the meantime, if you come here, ya gotta live with the expert whiners who no doubt could be off for 2 weeks of injury, followed by 2 days back, followed by 6 weeks of injury, and be right back to normal in days/hours/minutes.

      As you say, if it’s all so bad, and causes so much pain, why not find a team that they’d enjoy being a fan of? I mean shit, I can critique shit about this team as well as anybody else, but what’s the point in wallowing in it every fn day? I encounter the constant crap from some on here, and it makes me shy away from any critique, lest I feel I’m joining the “club”. I’m surprised you haven’t been called “fanboy”, drinking “BC’s kool-aid” yet, pffffffffffffft.

      • Nilanka15

        “…[Bargnani] is a player for whom Casey went to
        the wall for, claiming he was a legitimate star. If Bargnani is a star, he must
        produce. He does not get two weeks to round into shape. It is time for Bargnani
        to prove the first month of the season was not a fantasy. Bargnani, sooner
        rather than later, is going to have to re-earn his coach’s praise with more
        than just effort.”I suppose Eric Koreen, respected journalist for the National Post, is also a member of your make-believe club?http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/03/21/eric-koreen-time-for-raptors-andrea-bargnani-to-prove-he-is-a-star/

        • Raps4Ever

          lol, wtf does the opinion of some kid writing for the Post have to do with my opinion of what goes on daily among “fans” around here? Nothing. Really. Nothing.

          Beyond that, as I said, I recognize AB’s game has been poor, as he openly admits himself. No secret, and I don’t need some kid telling me. It’s the reaction to it that I speak of. In particular, I speak of the reaction around here, but if you think Eric’s opinion legitimizes your own, I’m happy for ya.

          I happen to disagree, as I disagree that Eric has the authority, or knowledge (how much bball has he played, coached?) to judge that AB “does not get two weeks to round into shape”. It’s a “journalist’s” opinion (various motives, hello!), not the gospel. That may be the opinion he throws out in his piece, and you apparently agree, but in the real world, that’s the coach’s call. Who the puck is he to say what AB does or doesn’t get? Shyt, I’m betting my daughter (who coaches) knows more about bball and how tough it is coming back after a long layoff, than some fairly recent journalism grad.

          Girl, ya gotta get over your zealous desire to put me in my place. You look silly responding to my post about attitudes here with some snotty little reply that doesn’t address what I’m saying at all.

          • Nilanka15

            “snotty little reply”?  That describes every single one of your posts to a tee.

            I’ve got an idea:  You maintain your self-appointed title of “message board nazi”, and I’ll take my own advice, and start ignoring you, and your multiple personas.

            Done.

            • Raps4Ever

              I didn’t take a run at you, lame ducky, but I guess you saw yourself in the “club” I described, and chose to take a direct run at me. Sorry you can’t handle the heat of your responses being put in another perspective, but that’s par for the course. Awwwww, I do understand your frustration, and wish you well in more successful ventures.

            • Steve

              You maintain your self-appointed title of message board idiot.

              • Nilanka15

                That deserves a ‘2’ on the scale of witty replies.

                Keep up the irrelevance dipshit.

        • CJT

          I am not defending AB for his poor shooting over the past few games, but I have to agree that Eric Koreen’s opinion based on his own personal agenda for AB is a little irrelevant.  If Coach Casey puts out that sort of timetable, he should be held accountable to the team and the coach, but not to a reporter who doesn’t look like he has played any competitive sports in his life.  Although you tend to be a bit negetive for my liking you usually make valid points based on facts etc.  I don’t know that I would consider Eric Koreen’s timetable is up to your usual standards.

          • Theswirsky

            I don’t think people care about Bargnani’s poor shooting.  Its the complete lack of effort on D and the boards thats the problem.

            His poor shooting just exposes that so much more.

            Oh and just off hand what is Koreen’s “personal agenda for AB”?

            • CJT

              If you read the quote that Nilanka posted above it summarizes his personal agenda pretty clearly.  AB had 5 boards and 6 assists in that loss, I know that will not be enough for you two, but he still contributed in a positive way. 

              • Theswirsky

                I’m having trouble finding Koreen’s  ‘agenda’ in that quote?

                • CJT

                  Sorry, I can’t help you with your reading deficiencies.

                • Theswirsky

                  why not just explain it to me

                • Raps4Ever

                  Some have difficulty with abstract thought

          • Nilanka15

            Agreed with swirsky.  Bargnani’s shooting percentages have always been a secondary/tertiary issue. 

            But you don’t need 8 under your belt before you start boxing out, or to stepping in for a charge.

      • yonas

        So p00ka who is the commish of the pack again?

  • 511

    I take the blame for Bargnani. I did, after all, a few days or so back, say something about being ‘glad that he’s finally arrived’. As I hit ‘enter’, a strange feeling that I had just jinxed it all, badly, crawled over me. So, ya, it’s on me. 

    • Nilanka15

      Some players just aren’t hard workers.  We saw the same thing with Vince.

      I’m not saying Bargnani’s quit on us like Vince did, I’m just saying that the preverbial “motor” is hard to teach.  Some players have it…some players don’t.

      • 511

        I hate to think it’s work-ethic related, I really do. I’m going with what I said. Because it’s either that or someone had ‘the conversation’ with him about the organization’s long-term goals and how’d they be best served … and … well, never mind. Too stinky to even contemplate. So scratch that. I can’t believe I even thought it. … … 

        • Nilanka15

          It’s either a lack of work-ethic, or a lack of intelligence.

          It certainly isn’t a lack of ability.

        • Destro

          His lack of rebounding and defense is absolutely work ethic…..

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        Bargnani visibly quit on the Raptors post London  last season…flu shot anyone?smdh

        BC sure knows how to pick ’em.lmfao

        • CJT

          Come on.  Did Jose sprain his ankle on purpose to avoid having to play D for a week? 

  • Nilanka15

    I was at the game, and was pleasantly surprised that the crowd didn’t boo during that dreadful 4th quarter.  It’s almost as if there was a collective understanding that the home team was overmatched from the start, played above their abilities for 3 quarters, before finally succumbing to reality during the final frame. 

    This game was a bitter pill to swallow for the casual fan, but most of us know that brighter days are just around the corner.  Next season can’t come soon enough.

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      Next season the Raptors will most likely be in the Lottery again- then what will you say?

      The next season?

      Some fans apathy is stomach turning as they try to rationalize all the current losing with predictions of future- miss me with that Nostradamus kool aid, while presently standing up to their necks in BC’s BullChit pr spins in the wind..

      • Nilanka15

        You’re right.  We should just trade for Chris Paul, Pau Gasol, and Melo.

      • CJT

        I love how you combine all of your favorite cliches in to one incomprehensible sentance. 

  • yonas

    every body is talking about the raptors needing a franchise player,what about the two we have  #7 and #8 are the no good enough ?

    • yonas

      *they not*

  • DC

    Bargs is fucking terrible. 30+ mins 2 boards. 2-10. Yea he’s real good guys. AB dickriders keep believing that hes a franchise player or the next dirk. LLOOLLL. Dont give the excuse hes just coming back from injury neither. I bet you Drose comes back it’s not gonna take him 8 games to round into form. Hell Deng is playing with a broken wrist and was out 4 a month and balled. AB sucks and is a 6th man at best. The rest of the roster isn’t even worth commenting on because it would take too long and honestly this hole roster is like a bag of shit. What’s the point of talking about it. BC could give some of yall a turd and call it a hershey’s bar and some would eat it all up. WAKE UP PEOPLE BC NEEDS TO BE FIRED NOW STOP SUPPORTING THIS PRODUCT ON THE COURT. 

    • Raps4Ever

      “What’s the point of talking about it.”

      Good question you pose. Why do you every day, multiple times a day?

      • DC

        Because this roster is garbage and every player on it is a 6,7,8 man at best on a good team. Keep drinking that kool-aid Ab/Bc fanboy. 

        • Raps4Ever

          Was that a little too complex of a question for you? Asking what your answer is to your very own question is drinking kool-aid? *shaking head*

          I guess I should apologize for confusing you for someone who, ya know, understands himself.

        • Lorenzo

          You completely avoided the question, you’re starting to become redundant.

          There really is no use to keep repeating the same thing over and over again. Maybe some people have forgotten, but this season means NOTHING, just pure evaluation. And please… don’t tell me you believe this “winning culture” bullshit. You can’t win if you don’t have a GOOD TEAM WITH GOOD PLAYERS.

          • DC

            So how do you guys expect to get these good players that you speak of? Is bc gonna work his trade magic again and aquire a super star? Or maybe BC is going to sign a superstar with all the fa money he has… Because you know how all the star fa’s are dying to spend their prime years on this team. Or is BC going to draft the next star player like… Charlie V, Joey graham, AB, derozan, ed davis? Yea this is gonna end up great like you say. Right? 

            • Lorenzo

               Not too big a fan of Colangelo, but I’m confident that he’ll make the right moves this offseason. That includes the draft, free agency, trades, etc.

              And if he doesn’t… well then he “Gots2Go!!!”

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Barganani aka The Pope aka King Bargs aka Lazy Mofo’er aka Half Ass aka I’m A PF Not A Center aka Golden Child aka Spoiled Brat aka Pasta! aka What I Do On Offense Is More Complicated Than Rebounding Or Defense aka POS

    • CJT

      Is this a question, comment, answer to some question, tourets, what’s tatooed over top of you ass acne?