The “yeah, I guess the Sixers really have fallen off” edition:

Alabi:  finally the one guy who only sees time if we are in a blowout gets on the floor when we are on the positive side of a blowout. He must enjoy it more because he actually scored and possibly tripled his value to this team at the same time.

Anderson: with Forbes and James Johnson both sucking their thumbs on the bench and not being able to play, Alan got the starting nod. No. Really.  He went 3 of 4 from deep and looked as comfortable as an over stuffed arm chair after Easter dinner.

Bargnani: hard to deny he is back feeling the golden touch. He’s upped his 3 point attempts as well, launching 7 of them tonight over smaller covers.  He looked into it defensively as well…..well, as “into it” as your 17 year old son is into his homework when the Hooters bikini contest is on.

Calderon: well, he’s always wanted to be a pirate and tonight it almost happened. He played most of the game with stitches and a band aid over his eye after taking an elbow to the head that sent him to the floor like JFK in the back of a convertible. I haven’t seen someone fall hard like that since RapsFan first saw a Pussycat Dolls video. The elbow obviously had no affect as Jose posted a double double and perfected the Spiderman stance defence.

Davis: there ya go young fella. That’s how you come out and play amongst the big boys: pointed shoulders, active hands, a spring in your shoes and a little smack talk about your opponents herpes rumour. Wee Eddy pulled down 14 boards in 25 of his best minutes in weeks.

DeRozan: I had wondered if he would flatline after a solid game last night, but he didn’t.  He took a step back defensively, but others pulled up their game to make up for that. Offensively he hit some shots but did end up taking some questionable ones where a dish to a teammate may have opened up some opportunities.

Gray: well, at least his offensive output decided to take an upswing. Up against Hawes for a lot of the night wasn’t ideal for Aaron, but he fought hard all night and his set screens led to some buckets.

A. Johnson: much better than last night. Might not have shown in the stat sheet, but Amir was motoring all night and making the Sixers bench defend him. Even on nights where he doesn’t take shots, being that threat opens the floor for others to wreak havoc.

Kleiza: 10 points, 7 rebounds, a pass that looked like it was from a Globetrotter, and all with cheesesteak sauce staining his jersey. There wasn’t much wrong with his game tonight and you could tell he was having fun. Love to see him this engaged all year and be a solid 7th man next season.

Uzoh: best game as a Raptor by far. Much more comfortable in the offence, a lot more vocal, defended with desire, and finally decided to let loose with his shots. Didn’t hit many, but nice to see him trust himself.

Driving the bus: Jose Calderon

Under the bus: Aaron Gray

Theme of the Game:

  • ShermanTank

    No, no no! We need to LOSE games, not win them! Then we have Cleveland up next who we’ve owned all season! Bench them all, put in Alabi, and call back Roko Ukic and start him at the point, throw Ajinca, Adam Morrison, and Brian Scalabrine in there somewhere as well. #TankNation!!

    • Lorenzo

      God bless you!

    • hotshot

      Cleveland knows how to tank, they did it very well last year and also this year not to mention the Wizards are going for the gold as well!

    • NyAlesund

       I want to win more and more. I hate tankNation. I want to see the guys win more games than the last season. I want to see guys beat the competitive team like tonigh. I don’t really care about the pick, because we are going to have a good one. This draft is rich and the most important thing is understand what kind of player BC and the team want. Don’t forget that we have Valanciunas and a plenty of space to sign a decent FA. Also, better we play better option we have to make a useful trade with some guys if is necessary. In addition, this team is well coached, we are a decent defence (we can improve), offensively are good too, and clearly in my mind with two/three good players we can make a big step. Frankly lose games only to pick 5/6 instead 8/9 in this draft is useless. The other teams want to tank, ok, but I prefer this Raptors to Wizard, Bobcats, Cavs, Nets….

    • FAQ

      JELD …. RAPS HAVE JELD..!!!!!

  • Drummond Z1986

    is it coincidence every black guy i know is pro tank where every white person i know wants wins?

    • cesco

       What about the reds , yellow and brown people , what do they want ? .

      • BKing

        They’d like you to get the bleep off this website. BURN!

        • cesco

          I assume you are a member of tank nation , a little bit aggressive though .

    • KaioKev

      What’s the sample size? 2, 3, 4 people?

    • Creebrave

      This red nation representative wants a respectable tank!!

    • Destro

      No coincidence at all…blacks want to see an asiatic man drafted,and possibly a euro pushed out,which would make this team tougher,more athletic,more competitive…

      • demar10

        You truly are a dumb buffalo.

        • Destro

          and you’re a mad whiteboy with no athleticism….GOOD

  • hotshot

    We can’t do anything right, we lose at the begining of the season and then we start to win in the end when we are suppose to tank so we can pick up a high draft pick so we can finally hopefully get out of this mediocre existence of a franchise!!!! I am going to pull out all my hair soon!!! YEAHH LETS FINISH STRONG GET A TOP 9-10 pick and cry about the next season next year!!!!

    • Nilanka15

      It’s the difference between Steph Curry and DeMar DeRozan.  These late season (meaningless) wins are going to burn us in 2 months.

      • Martin

        fool,i’ll bet you DD has a better nba career than Curry.

        • Nilanka15

          Ladies and Gentlemen, I present you the King of Homers…

          …MARTIN!!!

          • Raps4Ever

            As talented as Curry is, what appears may be a chronic ankle issue could well derail his career. That bet may not be so crazy after all. How many would have taken a bet a few years ago against Hawes having a better career than Oden. Even getting the #1 pick can be a crapshoot loss.

            • Nilanka15

              I realize nothing is guaranteed.  But it’s all about improving odds 😉

        • Truthkiller

          Wow!

  • Jaikish21

    I have no idea why this type of nonsensical douche-baggery from “hotshot” annoys me this much. Unless we’re talking about Anthony Davis let’s face it, there are multiple players on the trade market that are available and more adept to our system if we fall further back in the lottery. The lottery is saturated with power forwards (which we are + position wise) and if we’re not in the top 3 it really makes no difference one way or the other. Great win by the Raptors! Basketball fans unite!

    • Lorenzo

       No.

    • hotshot

      Toronto does not have the talent to warrent getting so called “multiple players” through trades that will make this team better.

      The draft where its at, no high profile free agent is coming here but overpayed mid level guys that Toronto already got.

      There is nothing douche-baggery about my post, it just sprinkled with too many truths for you to swallow.

      • Nilanka15

        Exactly.  To acquire talent, you need to give up talent (something we don’t have a large supply of).

    • Nilanka15

      Davis is a stud prospect, yes, but there are a few more players in the top-5 who could help immediately next year (MKG, Beal, Robinson).  This season would be an utter waste of we don’t end up with one of these guys.

    • NyAlesund

       +1

  • RapsM

    Was I the only person who was really disappointed to see this good play by the raptors at this point of the season? So much for tanking…

    • Lorenzo

       No, you weren’t. *sigh*

  • Lorenzo

    WHAT THE F**K! WHY ARE WE WINNING?! I WANT ANTHONY DAVIS!

    • hotshot

      Don’t worry you will get to see Anthony Davis when he drops 20 & 10 on us for years to come!

      • Lorenzo

        :(

      • Destro

        You mean when he drops 20/10 on Bargnani for years to come…

        • cesco

           He will be defended by JV , you dummy , and Andrea our all star will be pouring 25+ points against them . His team will be the new Orlando , offering Andrea 20 mil /year in 3 years time but Andrea will tell them ‘ Bosh is not my name ‘ .

          • Nilanka15

            He’ll be defended by JV because Bargnani is a weak defender.

            Isn’t it sad that our “best player” needs to be subbed out in the dying minutes of close games on defensive possessions?

            • Dan

              Just as sad as Shaq in his prime and Dwight needing to be subbed out on offensive possessions because they can’t hit free throws. In no way is Andrea in the same level as those two. But even Super star players have huge flaws in their game. The reason they have success is they GMs who recognize that and surround them with the right mix of players. Andrea is a good player he just needs to be a third option not the first.

          • Destro

            It must hurt you deeply to know he’ll never actually be an all star…AD will be an all star before him… 

      • NyAlesund

         When and how. He doesn’t able to make a jump shot. C’mon. We have Valanciunas don’t forget.

        • Nilanka15

          You based this from watching one game?

  • Ppellico

    can I ask for the very same consistancy from you that you ask of these players???
    Please???
    This is kind of buttery and cheap writing.
    Can you do just a little more effort for us real fans looking for some real sports
    Analysis and less late night stand up comic shit?

    Aaron Gray under the bus? Seriously?
    The guy held the team together under the basket. He gets under the bus.
    They say if we start out slow…blame Gray under the basket for allowing them to get inside.
    So the 1rst qtr ends and we are even.
    He leaves again at the end of a hell of a solid defensive 3rd qtr…he’s under the bus?

    • mountio

      i love your consistency .. truly admirable

    • Nilanka15

      It’s Aaron Gray, man.  AARON freakin’ GRAY.  Nuff said…

  • Lorenzo

    This is 2009 all over again! WTF!

  • Adriiian

    Good win, enjoyed it. Let’s go Raps!
    Fuck tank nation, its win nation, we got Valanciunas, well sign and trade for some other FAs and I think we can make the playoffs next season.

    • cesco

       Hear  hear .

    • hotshot

      good on ya for drinking the coolaid, other teams have always had much loftier goals then just getting to the playoffs.

    • Nilanka15

      Sweet, we’ll make the playoffs next year, lose in the 1st round, do the same thing in 2014, and then we’ll be back here wondering why we don’t have enough talent to compete deep in the playoffs in 2015.

      But fuck yeah!!!  We beat Philly in April 2012!!!  Yeah!!!  I’m a winner!!!

      • RaptorFan

        hahaha good one!

  • j bean

    The players and the coach aren’t on board with tank nation. 15-20 wins was the average consensus around here at the start but they could blow those totals out of the water with another 7-8 wins. 

  • Jordan

    This is bullshit, and mark my words, if they don’t get, at the very least, a top 5 pick, then this franchise is doomed for the foreseeable future. Next season will equate to more wins, but still mediocrity and therefore a terrible draft pick. We need to lose now and win later, lose, lose, lose, THERE IS NOTHING TO PLAY FOR, fuck pride and meaningless wins. LOSE.

    I’m mad, bro!

    • j bean

      Getting mad because of losing is like getting mad at the weather.

      • Jordan

        If you read my post genius, you’d see that I’m not getting mad at losing, I’m getting mad at winning.

        • j bean

          To you winning is losing. Thus my comment.

  • A Guy

    Can Bargnani get injured again please. We are 13-16 with him and 7-19 without him. He is screwing up our lottery chances.

    • Steve

      Actually, part of our fanbase here would totally ignore those numbers and claim that the Raptors are apparently no better with Bargnani than they are without him, with some even saying we’re worse. It’s so easy to make stuff up when you ignore the numbers and factual stats isn’t it lol.

      • Destro

        22-60 with Bargnani in 2010-2011

        how do those numbers feel ?

        • http://www.facebook.com/skiele Francesco Grigori Di Bene

          feel like jay triano

          • Destro

            Your name has voided your opinion on this player and matter…

            • Cred

              Your idiocy has voided your opinion on anything Raptors.

        • dave

          they would probably be 11-60 without him

          • Destro

            Raptors would have also been 11-60 without Mike James in 05-06…

        • cesco

           Thanks to him , they finished third last instead of last and avoid Sir Charlie opinionating that the best high school team could beat them .

          • Destro

            Charles Barkley “I like my big men to play big”

      • RaptorFan

        13-16 still sucks…..we need more talent…..Even the Bargnani haters must admit dude has talent… he’s getting better defensively…..we just need more rebounds from our staring PF and he would be a stud!

  • gooniesNEVERdie

    So the Raps will get the 7th pick this year, marginally improve and get the 10th pick next year.  Then, we’ll realize we both of those players are role players at best and we’ll start the process all over again.  We’re on our way to being on the Warriors treadmill!

  • Truthkiller

    Rasual Butler, where are you when we need you the most?

  • SR

    Are you kidding….second night of a back-to-back, on the road, against a playoff team, starting a 10 DAY GUY, and they still win???  The Sixers didn’t get the memo…

    30 mins of Anderson
    15 mins of Uzoh
    1.5 mins of Alabi

    No Bayless, no J. Johnson, no Forbes.

    Biggest WTF game of the year, even considering the Sixers’ nosedive. 

  • Mantcore13

    Mhm… We should forget about A. Davis, MKG, Beal, Robinson and others and start considering players like Perry Jones, Marshal, Rivers, Terrence Jones and at the best case scenario Harrison Barnes @ 6-8 pick :(

    • sleepz

      The sooner management starts forgetting certain highly touted players like Beal, MKG and Robinson the better. All big names, all with potential, however when truly inspecting their games there will be players selected after at least 2 of these guys that will have better careers, believe me.

      • Truthkiller

        I just don’t see what’s to like with MKG, this guy looks like marvin williams 2.0, And Beal is an undersized 2 guard which this league is full of, and at the end of the day they are a liability on defense. After Anthony Davis, you can literally go anywhere.

        • sleepz

          This draft should be very interesting.

  • sangaman

    Big name american college prospects WILL NOT play in Toronto..Full stop.  Better to acquire euro talent and defensive stars through trades with draft picks etc. .  

    • Beverboi

      They can sit on their ass and not play in the nba than.

    • Destro

      So draft picks will hold out on playing in the NBA cuz the Craptors drafted them ? Seems logical since its NEVER happened in 17 years…

      • sangaman

        Carter-Bosh were 4th and 5th overall pics not cant miss college stars, and both deserted TO. What would an anthony davis do?  

  • Edvinaspuskorius

    I cannot stand your view point ARE YOU FUCKING FANS? ITS ABOUT WINNING NOT ETERNAL WHINING. Be happy, these guys but all their hearts for you, franchise…. How do you reward them, you complain, fuck it, soon I won’t stand NBA system and “fans” if this continues. Sorry for swear words but this really pisses off when you are a real fan. Though Im not even from Canada.

    • Nilanka15

      A clear example of short sightedness.

      • ED

        Don’t worry I know all possible scenarios and the main tank nation scenario, I just cannot stand “fans” opinion towards Raptors wins, I mean? Are we here to win or loose, it’s game, it’s all about emotions and being lifted up after each win. Damn, I would not wait to see them actually winning for Z years and probably for a period of 4/5 years. I mean I could, but come on. Appreciate the wins, broken point of view, of course it’s an result of loosing every year for many years.

        • Nilanka15

          I understand what you’re trying to say, but if it’s a choice between winning a few games now, versus winning a lot games later, I’m going to choose the latter. 

          • Lorenzo

             +10000000

      • ED

        ‘winning after Z years’

  • Truthkiller

    Seriously though which player would come to Toronto next year when they are still in the rebuilding process, leandro barbosa… how’d that work out?

    Those not supporting tank nation are not real fans at all, we look at the grand scheme of things and another pick in the 5-10 range will not help this team. Jonas V and whoever they draft this year not named Anthony Davis will not help the team immediately. 

    • Nilanka15

      They are true fans.  They’re just ignorant about what it takes to build a championship-calibre team in a “small market”.  Most of them probably haven’t been following this team since 1995.

    • Destro

      The true fan argument is a front created by msinformed idiot fans with horrible opinions on this team and sport…True fans do not support a team that build improperly….they appropriately critique unbiasedly,thats the real definition of a true fan dont let these geeks tell you any different…

  • lgsshedden

    high draft picks mean nothing if the team does not a winning culture into which that “stud” can then be introduced.  Casey has the right approach, get the team to play defense first, assess who you want to keep and then upgrade the talent base: Jonas will be a positive addition, the draft # is always a crap shoot, hopefully a Harrison Barnes arrives, then trade or add FA to complete the picture.  All of which happens because the coach does not have tank in his vocabulary, holds all players to the same account in this part of the season as he did in the first week and his style will attract the right kind of FA, the ones who are about wining and not the $$ and You Tube highlights — Iggy’s “attention whores”.

    • Nilanka15

      Nobody expects Casey (or the players) to lay over and lose games.  We all expect 100% effort out of them.

      Instead, the debate is why FANS would cheer for wins knowing they will hurt our lottery chances.

      I’m not buying the “losing culture” theory because there are countless examples of it being debunked by acquiring better players.

      • Raps4Ever

        The “debate” goes far deeper than that though.

        As you say, “Nobody expects Casey (or the players) to lay over and lose games.  We all expect 100% effort out of them.” Exactly, so one of the other pieces of the debate is why FANS wouldn’t cheer for seeing growth and improvement of the assets we already have, to hang their hats on nothing but hopes of a saviour coming from a crapshoot pick, already based on no more than a slightly better percentage chance of a higher draft pick. #1 pick aside (rolling over aside, the chances of that ever happening was/is very slim), do you really think there’s a LeBron, Rose, Dwight type player in that bunch? Which one? Which of those players should we be cheering for our current team to be worse so that he could come in and be our saviour? Pick any one, and tell me you believe he’s worth cheering for the current assets to be worse.

        To me, what’s really crazy is that this “debate” turns into self appointed bball geniuses calling fans that don’t agree with this tank nation philosophy, and who actually cheer for the improvements we see before our eyes, short-sighted, not true fans, and kool-aid drinkers. To me, the debate is how fn absurd is that?

        • Nilanka15

          To some, the improvements aren’t good enough.  Some players have improved, while others have stagnated (or even regressed).  But regardless of how one views it, this team simply isn’t good enough not to be constantly criticized (yet). 

          Is there a saviour (outside Davis) amongst the draft prospects?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  As been pointed out many times, it’s a crapshoot.  There are no guarantees.  But is there a savior on our current roster capable of taking us to the next level?  I would say the answer is a definite no.  The draft seems like the only realistic avenue to help fill that void.

          Anyways, considering what Raptor fans have been forced to witness over the past 16 years, you can’t blame some of us for being a little too trigger happy with negative remarks.  I know you don’t like reading criticism, but it is what it is.  Quite simply, this team has been terrible for far too long, and the sense of frustration is understandably high (I won’t even get into the Jays and Leafs roles in adding to this frustration).

          But once this team starts winning, there should be a lot less bellyaching going on around here.

          • Raps4Ever

            I’ve also been a fan of this team since the day the franchise was announced, and feel for frustration. I can’t speak for others, even though I slip and try to sometimes, haha, but I choose not to focus on, and be governed by, that frustration. I understand that some choose to, but it’s how that frustration gets expressed on here that gets to me, especially the nastiness of attacks on those that differ in whatever the opinion. It’s a weakness, but it pushes me over the edge of composure in combating it sometimes, and for that I apologize to anybody I’ve been unfair to, or will be, lol.

  • onemanweave

      Tank Nation seems to be a bit short-sighted in regards to draft procedure and this years draftees.
       AD looks like a sure thing. Finishing last is certainly no guarantee a team will get him. After that — there are lots of good players, probably one or two stars. Trouble is — which ones?   Harrison Barnes could be as good or better an NBA player that Kidd-Gilchrist. Jones or Perry Davis could turn out to be better pros that Robinson.  One of the point guards could turn into a fine pro — which one?????
       Would like to see Raps get another late lottery-late first round pick and/or early second rounder.  This is one year when two or three later picks may be as good or better than second, third or fourth, and then there’s the bouncing ping pong balls…….

    • onemanweave

       … meant Perry Jones, of course, not Davis.doh.

    • Nilanka15

      You’re right, there will be tough decisions to make, for sure.  But it’s better to have choice.  The higher you pick, the more choice you have.

      • onemanweave

         You’re right, but throwing all the work of improving defensively and competing every night out the window may not be worth the greater choice.
           If you were certain to land Davis, or MAYBE Kidd-Gilchrist,  I’d say break out the Butler.
           Scouting, preparation and good old fashioned luck may have as much to do with success in this draft as positioning and, except for NO. 1 pick, ping pongs.
           I believe there are a few gems in this draft and not necessarily in the top five, or maybe even 25.

    • sleepz

      This is an argument I am starting to agree with seeing who the ‘pundits’ have slotted at the top of the draft after Davis.

  • Mike

    I disagree with the whole tanking thing right now…let’s see if they can win with what they have and if the young guys can produce, then in the off season decide to unload or add to the core. If JVal wasn’t coming in then I would say tank hard, but even then a top 5 prospect doesn’t gurantee to be any good. 

    • minks77

      I can’t help but feel like we let the wrong guy go to Denver. Ujiri has gone from assistant GM to lead scout to arguably the best GM in the L. He’d of tanked us HARD last year, drafted vala and traded bargs at the midway this year for a top pick and an expiring. Watching his maneuvers since he landed in Denver showed me 2 things: he doesn’t drink kill aid and has a mean poker face. Willing to bet he’s got balls of steel too.

      At any rate fun win but it’s all up to the fates now. Tank nation is dead, we’re destined to get a late-ish lotto pick it seems. Let’s hope the hornets with Gordon start killin, varejao comes. Ack and… Oh wait those are my fantasy team prayers. Raps are fukced!