What: “Thank God The Season’s Over” Party

Why: Because the season’s over

When: April 18

What time? 7:30pm

April 18 at 7:30pm? Isn’t there a Raptors game that night? Yeah, at Miami, we’ll watch it

Where: St. Louis on Yonge/College

What, where is that? Here

Who’s going to be there? You, me, this guy, and a bunch of other people

Wait, what? Yeah, we’re throwing a party to see off our beloved Raptors. It’s been an improvement of a season, but ultimately disappointing because we all want a winning team even though we know coming into the season the chances of having one was zero. So we drink to get over our sorrows.

I like prizes, will you be giving away prizes? Um..no..what for? I guess I could buy you a beer, but they’re already pretty cheap at $4.99 a pint

But I want prizes! Enough with the prizes already

Will you still throw the annual draft party? Of course

Will there be girls there? Probably

Does this post mean you’re not going to write a pre-game post for the Philly game? Kind of. What’s there to write about? Here goes something: Philly won last night at New Jersey in a blowout, after losing four in a row including one to the Raptors by 85 points. I don’t think they’ll forget that, and given that the Raptors will be without Andrea Bargnani, this could be tough. On the plus side, Jose Calderon threw out the first pitch last night. Ed Davis caught it before it reached the plate, pulled up, and missed a 3-foot jumper.

Why rip on Ed Davis? I’m not ripping on him, just pointing out that he’s been given a great opportunity to show what he can do this, and he hasn’t been up for it. The Raptors can’t be looking at him in the same light as they did when they drafted him. Whereas with Bargnani you always knew he had the potential to be good, I’m not sure the same can be said about Davis. His calling card was supposed to be defense, and that’s been in short, inconsistent, supply all season. With Jonas coming in, Bargnani taking up the minutes at the four (barring injury), and Amir Johnson proving to be more consistent, Ed’s role is about as vague as Mitt Romney’s stance on medicare. If there’s an odd man out, it’s him. Question is what can we get for him? Not much I say, which just might be the reason you hang on to him, if for nothing else than because you always need a big guy at the end of the bench. Think Lonny Baxter.

Do the Raptors have any hope? Sure they do, all it takes is a home run in the draft and a free-agent signing/trade that fits. Unfortunately, even though the Raptors have sucked, they haven’t sucked hard enough to get a true top pick. They stand 7th worst in the league, which would normally mean the 7th pick which isn’t great. Given the Raptors’ rotten luck in years the draft is actually good, they’ll probably fall to 10 making the season’s suckfest all for naught. Free-agent signing or trade you ask? I don’t know, but it’ll have to be for a point guard. It wouldn’t even shock me if Colangelo went for Juan Barea in a trade and made him the starter.

If you were the Raptors GM, what would you do? I’d acquire one of the point guards we passed over in last year’s draft, or maybe give DJ Augustin or Goran Dragic a look if you’re desperate – they’ll help increase the pace, but at that point you’re bringing in players that are comparable to Jerryd Bayless. Move DeRozan to the three, bring James Johnson off the bench, amnesty Kleiza, and see if you can throw money at Eric Gordon (what’s his deal anyway?). Think about Nick Batum too. I’d start there.

Hey Arse, you can’t even manage your fantasy team properly, you’re giving the Raptors advice? Good point

Got anything else? Not much, I was just checking out 82games.com and here’s something from there:

Some tidbits:

  • Amir Johnson is the best Raptor in terms of aggregated plus/minus again with +9.8
  • Aaron Gray is surprisingly bad at -10.2, which makes me again question this stat because he’s had a decent year
  • Bargnani went from a -0.5 last year to a +0.2 this year. He’s been negative every year in his career except in 2007-08. Now he’s on pace to be positive. Good job.
  • Jose Calderon is miles ahead of any Raptor in terms of clutch stats. Much further behind are Amir Johnson and DeMar DeRozan.
  • If you look at the average #1 pick production, Bargnani’s not doing too bad. But average is just that: average.
  • The Raptors are the fifth worst drafting team.
  • The 2006 draft is the second-worst draft in recent history.

What a waste of time…see you on the 18th

  • K.J.P

    That was a fun read.

  • Nilanka15

    I’m still open to the idea of getting Kemba Walker here.  He needs to work on his shot, but that should come in time.  And for someone who was labelled a “scorer” coming out of UConn, he’s got underrated passing skills.  He’s definitely got potential.  And considering Augustin is having the better season, maybe Jordan’s dumb enough to let Walker go.

  • cesco

    The main reason Gray looks bad on the 82games.com stats is because he is a starter  and the team find itself behind right away in most games . He is not a starting center , playing 17.1 min/game . Hopefully , next year with JV starting , the team will begin the games on the right foot . We will have to wait and see .

    • cesco

       
      The best 5 players unit in term of +/- and time spent together on the floor is the JC/DD/JJ/AB/Amir unit at +15 , the same unit with Gray instead of Amir is not in the top 50 units of the Raptors ( see NBA.com +/- stats ) .

    • kevin

      …and win the tip at the start of games.

  • 511

    I think one of the big reasons they got Ed Stefanski to sign on here is that he’s proven to have a good eye for draft-prospects, as well as being a superb horse-trader. (Among other trades he’s engineered over the years, he swindled us out of Vince for near-nothing.) So props to BC for recognizing, at least. Main point being, I’m liking to think our not-so-great draft record is a thing-of-the-past. Here’s hoping. 

    • Theswirsky

      http://www.basketball-reference.com/executives/stefaed99x.html

      “Ed Stefanski to sign on here is that he’s proven to have a good eye for draft-prospects, as well as being a superb horse-trader”

      the facts say something quite different.  He, with the leadership of Rod Thorn, fleeced Babcock yes.  And drafted Jrue Holdiay.

      If that over a 10+ years defines having an eye for talent and being a great ‘horse trader’ this league is just overflowing with talented GMs and executives

      • 511

        I don’t care, I like him. I think we’re a lot better off having Stefanski there to bounce ideas off before BC makes the deals. 

      • Destro

        Funny thing is i wouldnt argue Jrue Holiday as a drafting coo in any sense…dudes fallen off this season….Only thing he got going on is that Sidney Poitier haircut…

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      Ed Stefanski is another yes man to BC…smdh

      • 511

        If that was true I doubt Colangelo would have bothered to hire him. (Why woud he have?) 

        And … searching around a bit to see if what I first said really had the merit I had thought, I didn’t see anything to change my mind. Stefanski knows the game and he’s been around long enough (he’s well experienced) that I’m glad he’s here, offering as needed, his particular insights. And I had liked the job he’d been doing with the sixers before he came here. We’re better with him than without him, imo. 

        • Theswirsky

          “I doubt Colangelo would have bothered to hire him. (Why woud he have?) ”

          umm the same reason every other ‘yes man’ is hired… to say yes.  Hardly rare for high ups in business to hire guys that will just agree with them and make it seem as if they are constantly making the right decisions

          • Prince

            MJ does just ask Barkley

          • 511

            You don’t know what you’re talking about. 

            • Theswirsky

              well I guess that clears that up

              • Raps4Ever

                Pretty much

              • 511

                ok, that made me laugh. Maybe I’ll expand on it a bit, tomorrow. 

                • 511

                  Guess I could’ve ‘expanded’ then – wasn’t quite awake. Maybe you’re just intent on selling the idea that BC is so out of touch with reality that he’d act like a drunken politician wanting to use up his annual budget on nonsense (which might be more Gots2go territory), but regardless, it’s hard for me to believe that you even believe that BC would’ve hired Stefanski just so he could rubber-stamp whatever he might be wanting to do. It’s pointless and preposterous. Imo, anyway. 

                • Rob

                  Exactly.

          • Evan

            So where does one apply for the position of “yes man” I’d take that job any day, and I bet it pays good.

        • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

          How soon you forget..lol

          BC hired him to insultate himself from his own dumb ass decisions when alot of fans were calling for BC’s head after last season’s enigma of enigmas presser.

          Most everything with BC is a pr spin in the wind he’s a double talking type of person.

          • 511

            You talk about spin? C’mon dude. Just about all you ever write is ‘spin’. 

            • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

              Am I running the Raptors?

              What I post is my opinion of the past, current & projected future state of Raptors basketball nothing more, nothing less.

              • Raps4Ever

                You call your constant hyperbole nothing more than opinion??? LMFAO, you give us comedy for a change. One of those WOW moments!

                • Destro

                  He replies to hyperbole WITH hyperbole….smh

            • Destro

              What was the purpose of Stefanski coming here then ?

              • 511

                to get Gots2go to change his handle again, I think. 

  • cesco

    One possibility next year is that Grey takes over Magloire job as the third center and AJ is the center of the second unit with Ed as the PF . So they keep both AJ and ED .

    • Nilanka15

      I have no problem with Gray playing 15 mpg backing up Valanciunas.

      • cesco

        I am o’k to have Gray back-up JV but I hate to see Amir or Ed go . Anyway , the draft may change all that .

        • Nilanka15

          I’m more inclined to see Ed go.  I just don’t see what all the hype is about.

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        You really think that Val is currently (or next season) better than Gray?

        Gray, Amir, Ed >> Val

        Only way Val gets to start is if he is spoon feed minutes and doesn’t have to earn them- you know the BC way…AB, DD, …

        • Nilanka15

          lol, have you seen what Val has been doing over the past 12 months?

          • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

            In the NBA against NBA players?

            • Nilanka15

              Are you implying that no NBA rookie can have a positive impact because they’ve never faced NBA players before?

              • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

                I said that Val is not playing against NBA palyers- point blank, so take your implications and go on a vacation.lol

              • Theswirsky

                I’d be absolutely amazed if Val starts to begin the season next year.  He will get a steady dose of minutes no doubt, but I’d be the chances of him starting are slim (although maybe late in the season that may change).

                Gray will start and play his usual 15-18 minutes with Val filling in the majority.

                • CJT

                  Who gives a crap if he starts or not?  I don’t understand the obsession with being a starter.  If you come off the bench and play the majority of minutes isn’t that more important?  Val will definitely get the majority of minutes at the 5 next year regardless of whether he starts or comes off the bench. 

              • Steve

                it’s right there in fn black and white what the dude is saying Y, U, trying to change sh-t

                • Nilanka15

                  I’m not trying to change anything.  Gots2Go is questioning the validity of Valanciunas’s impressive work simply because he isn’t in the NBA yet, which has got to be the dumbest reasoning I’ve ever heard.

                  Yet, he’ll be here 5 minutes later claiming Tony Wroten Jr. is the next superstar PG, but fails to acknowledge that he hasn’t faced NBA competition yet either. 

                  Hypocrisy?

                • Destro

                  Serious you just argue TO argue….Your actually trying to say its dumb to question a guys body of work in an inferior league and how that relates to him coming to the NBA ? Euro league is shitty…calibre of play and talent is far below the NBA which is guys coming over to get a look are scrutinized…To even argue that point is to show you just want to argue cuz you dislike the SN…

                  smh

                • Nilanka15

                  Read between the lines dude.  I’m comparing the EuroLeague to the NCAA.  They’re BOTH inferior to the NBA. 

                  So my question to Gots2Go (not you) is why are Valunciunas’s achievements ignored, while Wroten’s achievements are praised?  Wake up.

                • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

                  Tony plays against NBA players every summer (Jamal Crawford Summer League) in Seattle (Jason Terry, Aaron Brooks, Jamal Crawford, Brandon Roy, Nate Robinson, John Wall, Steve Hawes, Isaiah Thomas, Quincy Pondexter)- what do you know about that?

                  He was named MVP of that league 2 years ago.

                  As well they all say that he is destine to be the best player ever to come out of Seattle.

                  I noticed that you can’t my e name out of your e mouth.lol

                • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

                  I noticed that you can’t keep my e name out of your e mouth.lol

                  So heavy on your mind….all the time….

                • Raps4Ever

                  So you equate a half dozen local NBAers going out for a few games of summer street ball amongst 8 teams of kids, 98% of whom will never see an NBA practice court, NBA competition? Doh!

                • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

                  Shows just how little that you know about the Jamal Crawford summer league.lol

                • Nilanka15

                  Right and Valanciunas has played against Pau Gasol and Dirk Nowitzski in international competition, which is FAAAAAAAAAAAR more competitive than some bush-league summer camp you’re referring to.

                  And he’s considered the best prospect (outside Anthony Davis) by numerous scouts across the NBA.

                  Anyways, back to the original point, which you and Destro make a habit of deviating from, Valanciunas will be a solid player next year.  His work with Rytas is a good indicator of his capabilities.

                  You’ll be proven wrong next year, and when called out on it, you’ll spit out some lame rhyme, and totally avoid owning up to your false prophecies.  It’s what you do.

                • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

                  Tony plays against & works out with NBA players all year long.

                  Heck his aunt is Joyce Walker the first female Globetrotter…

                  Val will hit the rookie wall hard….next season…

                  Rytas is in what NBA division again?lol

                • Rob

                  And what NBA division do the Washington Huskies play in again? lol

                  Another one of those brilliant Gots2Goisms.

                • Nilanka15

                  He just doesn’t get it…

            • Lorenzo

              What? Well then you can say the same for every single player in the NCAA, according to your godlike wisdom. I don’t think you have any idea of how fucking stupid that sounded. You draft players based on their potential, not what they are. Why do you think Andre Drummond will be drafted in the top 5 when he underperformed heavily this year?

              Oh and btw, playing against players in the Euroleague > NCAA.

              • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

                Let you tell it.

                • Lorenzo

                  Please, tell me more.

                • Destro

                  euro league is where has beens and never was’s go to die…

                • Lorenzo

                   Wipe the jizz of your face

                • Rob

                  Then go there and never come back.

              • Destro

                Ugh no….Kentucky woulda beat any euro league team…and woulda killed the team Valanciunas played on…

              • Destro

                The Top players in the world in the NBA were developed in the NCAA not in europe in the euro league…so no your theory is DENIED.

                • Raps4Ever

                  Your response is no valid denial at all. When comparing what the level of competition is like, a better example would be looking at how few NCAA 2nd tier stars that do very well in college, but do very poorly in Europe when not getting drafted in the NBA.

                • Raps4Ever

                  oops, I meant “how many NCAA…” not how few.

                • Nilanka15

                  Maybe you’ve heard of these guys:  Pau Gasol, Dirk Nowitzki, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili.

            • Rob

              Wow, really now?  

              Fine, I’ll say it……you win the “I am stuck on stupid” badge for today, and yeah, as long as you keep saying crap like this, you can just hang onto it.

              • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

                Can’t come up with your own style so you gotta bite mine- don’t you know how rolling in retarded that makes you look, buddy.lmfao

                • CJT

                  I wasn’t aware that illiterate was a “style” but you’re right if it is, it is all yours. 

                • Destro

                  Post # 146798 that has nothing to do with the NBA,Raps or basketball….

                • CJT

                  I;m surprised that you didn’t mention AB’s 0 rebounds last night.  Way to switch it up.

                • Rob

                  Yep, and all of those posts belong to you.

        • Fred

          Val will get his minutes based on his potential buddy, and he has far more potential than all of our bigs combined. The fact that you are only willing to give 2 seasons max to project the ceiling of one of the top young basketball prospects in the world shows your lack of knowledge.

          • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

            I said Val is 3-5 years away from being a quality rotation player not 2- buddy, stop making shit up.lmfao

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    The thing to remember about EDavis is that he hasn’t played in a summer league or had a full training camp in his 2 years as a Raptors player…

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    AB averaged 5 rpg 4th on Raptors as a starting PF…..wow

    Plus he can’t stay healthy as the only thing consistent about his game this season was his lingering (for parts of 2 seasons) calf injury.

    I seriuosly doubt if AB’s calf is really acting uop or is he just quit on the Raptors again as the games become meaningless ala post London 2011 flu shot anyone-sore calf anyone, same ol same.

    AB has proven that he’s not reliable over 82 games much less 66 games…time for him to go away along with Jose!!

    • NyAlesund

      Instead of saying about AB’s calf problem, why you don’t say nothing about the way Casey and the coaching staff has managed AB? Why you don’t say nothing about this:
      “The calf was starting to give me problems again. [Sunday] morning
      it was tight, but during the game it was getting more sore,” said
      Bargnani.

      Why did he play the game? Do you really think the AB in uncapable to play 82 games? C’mon.

      • cesco

         Andrea is a gamer , he doesn’t want to let the team down and will play as long as he can . In Phoenix and Utah , the fault resides with Casey who played him too many minutes coming back from his first injury . In OKC the coach must have left it up to him to play or not play . Obviously he choose to start the game , that is what most leaders of a team will do .

        • cesco

          There is no quitters on this team anyway .

        • NyAlesund

           Considering the season, considering the situation, considering the tanking, I didn’t understand their decision. For me, the best solution was to leave Andrea out. Ultimately, nothing wouldn’t have changed except for him and his calf.

        • Truthkiller

          Let the team down WOW!!!, they were 22-60 last year with him. Nothing special with him, nothing special without him. Story of the Raptors.

  • Jake

    “They stand 7th worst in the league”

    Do they really? I’m looking at the standings, the lottery standings in order of worst so far go as: 
    Charlotte 1st, Washington 2nd, New Orleans 3rd, Sacramento 4th, and then the Raptors tied with Cleveland for 5th in terms of winning PCT (Raps have played 3 more games than them), then New Jersey for 6th, then Detroit for 7th, and G.State for 8th.

    • cesco

       NJ is 7th , Detroit 8th and GS is 9th with 22 wins . Raps could finish
      anywhere from 4th to 9th spot  .

  • hotfuzz

    I just have one question.

    Will there be prizes???

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Jay Triano for Canadian National Team coach!! With Steve Nash as his Assistant!!

  • Mike D

    Great stuff this year.  Hilarious reads, metaphors and rips that were the highlight of this latest in a generation of miserable seasons.  

    Also, don’t forget this headline, as you will need it for next year (just as you did last year), to sum up another campaign that Colangelo is in charge of.  Until then, the drought continues…

  • Destro

    This writers analysis of Ed Davis is trash…and dishonest as well..

    hasnt taken advantage of his opportunity ? What opportunity ? He plays inconsistent mins…and thats coming off the back of last season where he led the team in double doubles…His jumpshot sucks agreed but again he is a legit 15/10 guy if given the mins….as you saw last night YET AGAIN….and i’ll keep saying this WHY is he not afforded the same excuses as bargnani ?

    He’s in his SECOND fuggin season and you want to trade him for nowhere near equal trade value but Bargnani is afforded 5-6 seasons of inconsistent lazyness and is still developing….you dont need to be writing and analyzing this team or its personnel because your god awful at it…. 

    • Rob

      He plays inconsistent minutes because he plays inconsistently. Why are you going to give a guy consistent minutes when he’s limited to much by his strength and current physique, where he’s getting outmuscled and manhandled and provides no offence. Casey has said repeatedly that he needs more time in the gym, 22 mpg is plenty and only 3 minutes on average less than last season as a poster already mentioned. He is slowly becoming redundant on this team buddy, just like you’ve become redundant on these forums.