Nets 67, Raptors 98 – Box

Solomon Alabi played 40 minutes in an NBA game and his team won by 31 points. Let that be the epitaph for the season which ended last night with the Raptors (DNPCDs for DeRozan, A. Johnson, Kleiza, and Calderon) pummeling a Nets side missing Deron Williams, Kris Humphries, Gerald Wallace, and Jordan Farmar. The Nets were in tank mode as a win would’ve actually affected their Anthony Davis positioning. For the Raptors, well, their positioning could’ve been a lot better, but they end up being slotted in a two-way tie for 7th, which was the worst possible scenario as Golden State lost (best case was a tie for a 4-way tie for 3rd). The chances of winning the lottery are between 2.8-4.3%.

The season has had its positives, yet there’s no denying that’s also been dreadful, so I feel almost a little cheated with the lottery positioning. Certainly, the plan of sucking for another year and giving yourself a decent chance to add a top three pick to the roster has been foiled by these six April wins, which carry about as much meaning as the Shawn Marion or Voshon Lenard led runs of seasons past.

There’ll be plenty of time to take stock of the Raptors roster and mull over the changes made, both hypothetical and real. The core complaint has been the lack of talent and that cry still rings true. As we had hoped, the season did not provide emphatic answers to the questions posed at various positions. The point guard situation remains unresolved, DeRozan’s seeming stronghold on the shooting guard position has been cast in doubt, and no one quite emerged to make the small forward spot their own, although James Johnson did finish the season strong (again, take salt with the late-season numbers). The power forward spot with Bargnani can be, more or less, considered resolved if for nothing than for him being the most capable player on the team. The center is all about Jonas and the bench is brutal.

Like every other year we look to the hot summer months in hopes of improvement, and this one is no different. Whether that improvement comes in the form of free-agency is doubtful, after all the Raptors do suffer for their reputation of being losers (not for being north of the border, mind you). You require assets to execute trades and TPEs (which usually go wasted) can’t be considered great ones, it has to be the players and the only valued one is Bargnani, and to lesser extents DeRozan, Calderon, and Amir Johnson – at least in the sense that you’ll get an NBA player back for them. The task for Colangelo is tough, unless of course he decides to append to the roster by simply adding the two rookies he’s owed, and embarking on another season of character building under Casey. He might not have a choice.

As has been stated many a time, Dwane Casey has been the greatest positive of the season. He’s instilled a sense of professionalism and accountability whose need was never more evident that in the previous three seasons. Whether his message will carry on to to next campaign remains to be seen, as fans we hope that he’s not a coach the players tune out after a time, but one they grow closer and vow loyalty to. This season was often pitched as stop-gap measure till Jonas gets here, if you do view it in those terms then job done and let’s wait for our saviour.

Watching this game it seemed like what’s old was new again. From Acie Earl to Ben “triple double” Uzoh, from Vincenzo Esposito to Alan Anderson, the Raptors have rarely been about winning, yet we love them all the same. Whether it be for geographic proximity, habit, or simply pure madness, they’re the club we pledge our allegiance to. The feeling that’s settling in isn’t of pondering whether this season was good or bad (it was bad), but that there’s no Raptors basketball for six long months. All one can hope is that this season counted for something, what that something is I can’t quite articulate right now, at least not in terms that are convincing. Perhaps you can.

Bryan Colangelo’s got one year left on his contract and faces a summer where he’s got two options: 1) stay the course and accept another year of this, and hope that management views his lack of action as patience, or 2) try to hit for the fences again and hope to earn a new contract with the club. He’s usually done the latter and failed, so my money’s on #1 – a summer of modest activity which’ll end up meaning that Jonas will be the most exciting thing to look forward to.

In the end, it’s the same win total as last year but with 16 less games played, and a slice of character added thanks to the coach.

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  • Jose

    It’s pretty bad when all the hope for the future of this franchise is centered around Lithuanian teenager that never played single NBA game. I hope he turns out to be a saviour for this franchise, but even if that happens – it’s going to be a long slow process. And he is going to need much better support cast for sure.

    • cesco

      One of the things that Jonas could provide to the team IMMEDIATELY is a few extra buckets from your starting center . Three , four points per game from one of your starting bigs is simply not acceptable ( Reggie last year , Gray this year , 4 against 5 offense ) . So the hope is that with Jonas , some of the close games which were lost may now be won ( he will be on the floor in the last few minutes instead of sitting on the bench like Gray ) and there was quite a few close games this past season . Everything else that JV bring to the table ( defense may be better still ) will obviously increase the chances of success going forward . Add to it what value the pick will add to the team and perhaps an FA or trade and the future look very positive . Playoffs here we come .

      • sleepz

        Or better efficeincy from the teams “scorers”.

        • Destro

          ding ding ding ding

        • cesco

          No kidding , the  “scorers” improving their efficiency will make the team better . How genial an idea is that ? and the genial  ‘ding ding ding’ approval below make you two permanent members of the RR Mensa Club only reserved to the very few “brains” here .

          • sleepz

            insults for a lack of argument?

            sounds about right coming from this corner

          • hye hye

            But we still have three in the starting lineup who plays no defence

      • FAQ

        JonasV will just turn out to be a mini-Bargs… and another 5 year project.

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      Exactly, Val is a rookie and no matter how much some people have been hypnotized by his RaptorsTV specials he will not average double figures in scoring nor rebounding over 82 games next season.

      The truth is if he has to beat out AB, Ed, Amir or Gray (if they bring him back) in practice for minutes he will be on the bench the only way he gets minutes is if he is spoon fed minutes ala AB & DD.

      I like Val but next year he will hit the rookie wall hard….

      • FAQ

        How true… because he doesn’t have the luxury of talented players buffering his entry into the NBA…. same for the draft pick rookie … they will either swim or sink on the struggling Raptors.  I feel for them.

    • FAQ

      Let’s just admit it…. the current Raptor roster is just not athletic enough, skilled enough or smart enough to challenge for 8th place and the playoffs.  There are too many good teams with great players and better coaching who will stop the Raptors from reaching the playoffs next season.

      That’s the brutal painful truth… but don’t let me ruin your deluded hopes.

      • CJT

        Don’t worry, the ramblings of a sad and angry forum fan isn’t going to ruin anything for anyone.

        • FAQ

          Raptors deserve deluded fans like you ….

          • Raps4Ever

            And don’t deserve such knowledgeable, smart and devoted fans like you…. so why not find a team that deserves you?

            • Destro

              Are your feellings hurt?

  • Jose

    Oh…and thanks RR Crew for their work.

    • Destro

      Surprised to read they dont get paid….You guys should set up a lil donation piece on the page where ppl could contribute thru paypal or sumn….maybe think of trying to get paid for your efforts…maybe try to parlay RR with some kind of once a week podcast next season….with some guests here and there from the forums or assorted local Raptor media folk….

  • 2damkule

    i’ll remember this season…

    – as one in which the bobcats established themselves as the worst team in history with 7 wins…and that 2 of them came against the raps.

    – as one in which defense became an actual ‘thing,’ vs. a word spoken in interviews & immediately forgotten.

    – as one in which the supposed ‘core’ played – at times – like a team that could compete with anyone…but that also played as competively with D-league callups & scrubbiest of scrubs.  is that a reflection of the coaching, or the ‘core’?

    – as one in which questions were answered about this ‘core.’  they may not be the answers we wanted, but they are answers nonetheless…it may seem up in the air as to whether the ‘core’ is good enough going forward, but the fact that it’s up in the air means that it isn’t.  in my eyes, the guys we needed answers on this year were davis, derozan & bargs (most others on the roster were already who we thought they were).

    – derozan: proved he could be a somewhat effective scorer, but more likely as a 4th option on a decent team, and ideally as a guy coming off the bench who’d only be asked to score.  simply too one-dimensional to be a focal point of a team that fancies itself a contender for anything.  verdict: without one of a) reliable handles or b) legit NBA-quality outside shooting, or c) the ability to be a shut-down defender, he’s a fringe NBA-er at best, and a guy that – if he were on another team – raptor fans would think of as a poor man’s nick young (albeit, minus the knuckleheadedness).

    – davis: proved he could be a decent defender, above average rebounder, and – when motivated – an energy guy.  but that runs counter to what an ‘energy guy’ HAS to be for a team…it can’t be turned on or off, if you’re an energy guy, you have to bring it each & every game, and what he proved is that he doesn’t have that in him.  and that means he’s a bench player…especially considering his almost complete lack of offensive game.  i mean, it isn’t just that he’s lacking ‘moves,’ or any semblance of a reliable jumper…he didn’t show that he was even comfortable with the notion of being an offensive player.  verdict: a less talented joel anthony.

    – bargnani: here we go…was he impressive to start the season?  yes.  was he as impressive in those games as some would have you believe?  not really.  he was making strides towards being a more complete player, but the injuries curtailed that, and we’re therefore left with question marks.  first question: is he injury-prone?  is missing 10-30 games/season something that is just going to be something to expect?  i don’t trust bigs with leg issues in general, and the type of issues he’s had tend to be of the reoccurring variety.  injuries aside…did he show enough in his limited time to warrant remaining an untouchable?  i really don’t think so.  offensively, it’s a given that he can score the ball, but question remain as to whether he does so with enough efficiency to offset the weaker aspects of his game…at best, the jury’s still out, and at worst, it’s an emphatic ‘no.’  his fans will – undoubtedly – point to the lack of offensive production from other areas, and the team’s W/L record with him vs. without him…which is valid, to a degree, as long as we’re willing to accept that he showed zero improvement in terms of rebounding the ball despite it being a point of emphasis & despite the fact that he was not playing with anyone that could be considered an elite rebounder (i.e. no more reggie evans ‘stealing’ his rebounds), and accept that while his PnR defense – at least to start the season – was much better, he’s still an overall poor defender.  so…he’s either an injury-prone, inefficient/high-volume scorer who brings (almost) nothing positive to the table from a rebounding/defensive perspective…or he’s a uniquely talented big who can score from anywhere, spread the D, and play passable D in certain circumstances.  i’m not sure there’s really much middle-ground, so it depends on how valuable you consider his strengths in determining whether he should be part of the team going forward.  verdict: to my eyes, this season simply confirmed what i’ve believed for years – that his best role is (like derozan) as a scorer off the bench.  if that doesn’t/can’t happen in TO (and it won’t), then they should look to move him & get on with it.

    • Theswirsky

      “was he as impressive in those games as some would have you believe? not really.”

      thats what was so amazing about Bargnani’s 13 games…. he scored extremely well, but his defense and rebounding was still poor.  Its just that historically he was so excessively inept at it that when he actually tried it was a huge step up.  But it was still bad.  His claim to faim defensively is hedging on screens…. which is a simple straight forward basic play.  Hardly an impressive display of defensive instincts or skill.

      Then the 13 games ended, Bargnani returned to the mean and after almost 400 games its those 13 that we should take as the ‘real’ Bargnani.

      “verdict: to my eyes, this season simply confirmed what i’ve believed for years – that his best role is (like derozan) as a scorer off the bench.”

      +1  but its not going to change…. BC is unwilling to accept that.  He’s invested to much in Bargnani (and a lesser extent Derozan).  Neither will be moved this offseason and they’ll both be starters next year. 

      They’ll be going after veteran players to make the playoffs, repeat mediocrity for a few years and then the Raptors will be right back here in 3-4 years. 

      • Nilanka15

        Yeah, I’m not sure Colangelo has the stomach (or the leash) to make the tough decisions that will truly benefit this team long term.

      • NyAlesund

         “verdict: to my eyes, this season simply confirmed what i’ve believed
        for years – that his best role is (like derozan) as a scorer off the
        bench.”

        OMG.

        Who are the Toronto players (you believe) can play as starter? Can you tell me how many starters in the NBA are strong offensive players and very effective defender at the same time?

        I don’t see alot of them.

        The point is the defensive system and the player’s quality. In a team you need talent on both side of the floor. But above all, you need the right system. Believe or not, this team have had a consistent improvement in defense end, with more or less the same players. Included AB, DD, JC……. So, when you pass to be the worst defensive team into a real decent one, every defensive stats we put us into the 10th position, better than some teams are going to play the po games, it means that despite all the system makes the difference.

        Hence, I am expecting the team continuous working in this direction that produced the good things. We are going to have a full training camp with a new fellas in town. I am expecting a competitive roster ready to play for the po. I am expecting that whole players raise up their level, not expecting AB becomes the best defender in the league but good enough to be effective for the team. Exactly for DD and JC.

        • Theswirsky

          “Who are the Toronto players (you believe) can play as starter?”

          Only one without question – Jose Calderon.  

          “Can you tell me how many starters in the NBA are strong offensive players and very effective defender at the same time? ”

          I’m supposed to make a list that long?  How about this… how many franchise players, building blocks, core player or whatever you want to call them are only capable of doing 1 thing and 1 thing only? 

          • Raps4Ever

            Sly bugger using the “only capable of doing 1 thing and 1 thing only” line. Technically, can easily be argued that this line doesn’t apply to more than a handful of players in the entire NBA, but since you’re implying key pieces of the current Raptors are “only capable of doing 1 thing and 1 thing only”, perhaps you might share your wisdom of who and what is the 1 thing their only capable of.

          • NyAlesund

             You said JC! Is that the same player incapable to defend a single PG in the NBA, according the most of fans here?

            Because if you consider him the only player that deserves to play as starter in this team, it means we see the basket in different ways.

            As I said before, the really difference is the defensive system. Only with good one, we can compete at the high level. And this year we saw many many improvements.

            About the long list of players capable to play effectively on both side of the floor I disagree with you.

            Some examples: NY Knicks. The only players defend really well are Chandler and Shumpert. Stat and Melo are ridiculous (only capable of doing 1 thing and 1 thing only, make points), not to mention Baron Davis, JR Smith, Bibby…… But Melo and Stat are All Star!!!

            Dallas Mavs: I really curious to see how the will play without Chandler, the real key of their success. Dirk was unbelievable but now without the defensive monster I want to see the result. Probably out at the first round.

            Thunder: I love them and Durant. Is he a really tough defender? Not at all, but he has Ibaka, Collison, Thabo, Perkins payed to do the dirty work.

            • Theswirsky

              Melo is consistently one of the best rebounding SFs in the league.  He can also pass the ball very well.  Yes he is a bit of a ball hog though. 

              Durant is one of the best defenders on his team. (2nd best defense rating after Ibaka)  He is the definition of an all around player.  He is also one of the most efficient scorers in the league

              Dirk atleast rebounds and defends at an average rate, and has for his career.  He is also one of the best clutch scorers in the league.

              Stoudamire is a shell of his former self after all the injuries.  You look over his career and he blows Bargnani out of the water in terms of rebounding and offensive efficiency. 

              Thats what you don’t get here… you are trying to grab at guys who have ‘bad defender’ labels (even though I think you are trying to give Durant a label he doesn’t deserve, but none the less)…. but those guys still rebound, atleast at an average rate, and have a career of do other things that showed their worth (efficient/clutch scoring, passing etc).  

              Bargnani does 1 thing and 1 thing only – takes shots.  And the things he does bad – defense and rebounding, he sets brand new levels of pathetic

              • NyAlesund

                We have different opinion but really I don’t understand why we can wait 6 months before get rid of it AB, JC, DD….. if will be necessary?

                After Triano, for the first time we have a great coach with the right skills, alot of experience able in a few months to change the roster’s mentality (please don’t mention Mitchel). For me the right thing is watch how the team will play the next 20/25 games in the rs, and after that make trade without making good or bad sons. No one excluded.

                About Melo, is not a good defender. Stop.

                Off course, if you want to excuse him for that, you are free to do it……lol

                • Theswirsky

                  never said Melo was a good defender. 

            • FLUXLAND

              You got lost to learn about ball, man. 

              • Dion

                And you got LOTS (not lost) to learn about grammar, man.

      • Steve

        What’s a season finale RR article without theswirsky’s usual whining about Bargnani….just couldn’t help yourself to sneak in one more post about him?? :) I’m sure it’ll be a long, long, long summer for you to wallow in your miseries thinking about AB…..who knows, you might even be painting some picket fences :):)

        • Theswirsky

          Oh I fully expect you’ll be hearing my ‘whining’ for years as BC has shown no willingness to accept his mistake and keeps investing more and more into it. 

          And then one day, off in the future, after years of mediocrity and then a brand new tear down and rebuild, people will talk about how anyone who says keeping Bargnani was a mistake is just using “hindsight”

          • cesco

            Are you 100% sure that all the calls he received about AB availability , there was one he should have accepted ? . What do you think/guess the best proposal was to receive someone in exchange that would definitely make the team BETTER ? . Keep in mind that we have acquired that defensive center that everyone wanted via the draft and we kept our 20 points scorer and his spacing the floor and good one on one defense . So give us your guess as to who the new savior could have been .

            • Destro

              43 %
              29.6 %

              L

            • hye hye

              20 points and spacing,so is that the complicated stuff Bargs was talking about?

            • sleepz

              Addition by subtraction

            • sleepz

              Colangelo also said he gets the most calls for Bargnani. 

              For a GM that is such a high profile wheeler and dealer I don’t think it’s a stretch to say he has received decent offers. Factor in how great Bargnani is becoming and I would assume the league is beating down his door………unless they view him as an over paid inefficient shooter that is a liability everywhere else on the floor?

          • Raps4Ever

            Hell no,,,,, we’ll be praising ya as brilliant GMs that just missed your calling, and lobby for your hiring by the Raptors!

            Fell better now :).

            • Destro

              I’d feel better if you addressed the legitimate points and didnt cry like a bitch the SN messenger…

              • Raps4Ever

                ….. the boitch cries, lol

    • Nilanka15

      Good post.

      But I seriously doubt Colangelo sees anything but a superstar when he looks at Bargnani.  If he wasn’t traded last summer (arguably his worst season of his career when you factor in the expectations), then I’d be utterly shocked if Bargnani is traded this summer.

      • sleepz

        That’s why Colangelo should go.

        • FAQ

          .. and hire you as GM… for min wage too..!!!!

    • sleepz

      excellent observations

    • Destro

      Sorry but a less talented Joel Anthony is not correct at all…He’s a less energy Anthony but he’s alot more talented…

      • Nilanka15

        What exactly is Ed’s talent?

        • Destro

          So Joel Anthony has more talent ? lol

          • Nilanka15

            You never answered my question.

            • Destro

              im not going too,its a rhetorical question based in nothing but creating a faux narrative,not interested breh…..an educated fan knows Ed Davis is more talented than Joel Anthony…

              • Nilanka15

                My question had nothing to do with Anthony.

                What is Ed’s “talent”?  He’s a decent rebounder, but that’s about it.

        • Destro

          Ill say this again what happened second half of last season wasnt a fluke….

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      – as one in which the bobcats established themselves as the worst team in history with 7 wins…and that 2 of them came against the raps.

  • RapsFaninAsia

    Thank you.  I read as a Canadian based abroad in Asia.  I enjoy the posts (as forced as some of the jokes are :)  

    Thanks everyone.

    Peace

  • skeptical

    “This season was often pitched as stop-gap measure till Jonas gets here, if you do view it in those terms then job done and let’s wait for our saviour.”
    Savior is a strong word, especially on a team with as little supporting talent and as much youth as the Raptors will have. Next year might be exciting to watch, but I have a hard time seeing this team being a threat to anyone when they are relying on an unproven rookie and an (as of yet) undrafted player to fix what ills them.  Still, I’m excited to see what happens.

    My wife doesn’t understand why I’m a Raptors fan.  Not sure I can explain why either, but I’ll keep hoping and watching and cheering anyway.  If they ever do put it all together then that’ll be the happiest season of my life.

  • 511

    With the way that certain games ended earlier in the season, with defeat seemingly being snatched from the jaws of victory (assessed only by the very odd selection of players on the floor at the end of those games), I was consoled by the notion that the team must have (had) a plan-of-a-sort to position themselves for a decent lottery shot. 

    As much as I have always been against ‘tanking’, philosophically and otherwise, I decided to adopt a pragmatic attitude about it all, and got right on board with what seemed to be going on. It was necessary and would be worth it … I told myself. 

    The last month of play featured wins that, while happy for the morale boost to the players (not to mention the fans), I began to wonder how committed the team might be to this ‘plan’ that I had imagined. 

    And now, here we are with only a 3 – 4 % shot at the top pick after all of that. Obviously, if they had a plan in mind, this could not have been what it was. I feel much less good about this season than I once did. 

  • Timo in Waterloo

    Thanks, RR crew for some entertaining and informative content throughout this season.
    Looking forward to next year.

    • Josh in Waterloo

      WATERLOO! :)

      • hotfuzz

        I am from Waterloo too!!!!!

        • Statement

          I’ve been there BEFORE!!!

  • sleepz

    Those 6 April wins.

    Do you blame Colangelo or Casey?

    Another poster said it the other day and I felt he was absolutely right when he said that the moment they were out of contention for the 8th spot it should have been “showcase the youngsters” time.
    Alabi and Davis should have been playing 30+ minutes weeks ago. See what they got no? Isn’t this an evaluation year?

    Jose should have been shut-down and Uzoh should have gotten more minutes, and Dentmon should have been kept around.

    As Casey hasn’t been here long enough for me to develop harsh feelings I will once again point the finger at the orchestrator of this debacle, Mr. Bryan Colangelo. The moment he starts adding on veteran salary instead of shedding it (and yes there are obvious candidates for this option on the roster) in the off-season will be the sign of another 3-5 years of dissapointment.

    • Destro

      Could blame both but ultimately since BC has the last call i would say it falls on him,he pulls rank when it comes down to it….He should have been told Casey that we need some of the younger guys to play minutes,the very minute they were eliminated….Its like do you blame Dwight or blame mgmt,i always blame the team because they always have the final say on matters….

      • Nilanka15

        I don’t think we even needed to wait until we were eliminated.  We knew from training camp that the playoffs were a pipe dream this year (Colangelo essentially admitted it publicly).

      • CJT

        I blame you.  Oh, and all of your personalities.  But with any luck BC will get rid of you next year and trade you to a Charlotte fan site. 

        • Destro

          cornball ass reply from a cornball ass poster.

    • Brian Gerstein

      I am pretty sure you are alluding to me, Raptors Devotee on Twitter actually even though my name gets posted and not my handle.  100% that is what not only should have, but had to be done.  We would be in a situation where we would have more than a decent shot at Davis and a great shot at a Top 3 pick as well.  It is beyond me why Colangelo did not do exactly what you proposed in detail, as before the season started one of his main goals was getting a top draft pick, only to sabotage it himself.  Tanking is not done by the players themselves, but by the GM and the personnel he puts on the floor.

      • sleepz

        +1

      • Raps4Ever

        Where was it ever stated by any Raptors’ brass that “one of his main goals was getting a top draft pick”. “Tanking”, by definition, nor chasing a top draft pick was never stated
        as a goal by anyone in the organization, and they never conducted themselves that way either.That was a “main goal” defined by the so-called tank-nation, but as is common in places like this, someone spews something and it becomes “fact” in the minds of some, thus used to spew more garbage.

        • Brian Gerstein

          The 2011-12 NBA season is in limbo because of a contract dispute between the
          owners and players, but Colangelo is already tempering any optimism that might
          exist about the team’s chances. “We may be looking at a year where we actually take a
          step back” Colangelo said, noting that the uncertainty of the labour
          dispute and the new rules that a new collective agreement will bring will all
          play a role.

          I heard Colangelo with Bob McCown on Prime Time Sports before the season started as well elaborate, saying that getting a high draft pick was part of the plan, but of course, would not be done by tanking, but by playing our kids and teaching defense, which will be a project considering the necessary culture change internally and also, just teaching defense, something that Triano was incapable of doing.

          If you think that Colangelo is happy with the 8th pick you are sadly mistaken.  He has no choice but to have it entering the lottery balls, but he was hoping for better.

          • cesco

             BC did not expect such a rapid improvement as there was little time to teach the new defensive culture . I think also  he is confident that he can find someone pretty good ,  probably a starter when his turn to pick come .

          • Raps4Ever

            I’m not “sadly mistaken” about what BC is happy or not about, because I don’t even waste a second of my time believing that I know much about what BC feels or thinks.

            However, once again, BC did not say “getting a high draft pick was part of the plan”.

            • Destro

              Thats because your a dishonest idiot….You me and his collars KNOW he was not hoping for the 8th pick in this draft when this season began…

              • Raps4Ever

                lol, the last place I feel a need for compliments is internet places like this, but I must say that the biggest compliment I could expect here is for you to think I’m an idiot. Thank you.

        • sleepz

          One goal was to evaluate the roster, however the young players that needed that “evaluation process” didn’t get minutes until the end of the year i.e Davis, Alabi

  • j bean

    Patience with one major trade would be my approach. 

  • Roarque

    I like the prospect of Bargs, DDR and Jose as the core of a competitive NBA franchise. Find us a center – please make it be Jonas – who can pull down 10 offensive rebounds a game and we’re ready for 35 wins. Now, find us a shooter for the SF and that can become 40.

    I’d be pretty darned happy to watch that team play

    BTW – the SF position can be done by committee. AA, JJ and LK depending on the night and the opposition.

    • Theswirsky

      if this post is an attempt at irony its amazing.  If its serious… god help us all.

    • Nilanka15

      Lol, the best offensive rebounders in the league average less than 5 per game.  Hoping a rookie averages 10, might be a bit of a stretch…

      • Statement

        Be cool brother, he’s joking.

    • j bean

      Your dream team wins 40 games? 

      • John

        This is the product of getting used to losing under BC ( one of the highest paid GM’s in the league). After almost 7 years, our fans are happy with a 40 win season :) Heck, they dream about it.

        • Lorenzo

          But can you really blame them? It’s very sad, but we all just want a good ball team to cheer for

      • Statement

        That’s like the episode of “The Office” where Dwight reveals that he is running a bed and breakfast with Satan in his wildest dreams.

    • Roarque

      Did I say that the NBA title was ever a possibility? Let’s be serious. As long as the league allows players to pick their own team mates a la Miami and before that Boston, the balance of power in the NBA works against the team who drafts to win a championship. OKC is the exception that proves the rule.

      Although you didn’t ask for it, my suggestion is you sit back and enjoy a 40 win season because anything else is totally unrealistic unless you live in an NBA mecca like Chicago or Boston or Miami.

      BTW, I am definitely rooting for OKC to win it all this year.

      • Nilanka15

        First, KG and Allen didn’t pick Boston.  They were traded.

        Second, is San Antonio an NBA mecca?

        With good management, smart draft picks, and ownership willing to spend money, a championship team is possible in any market.

        • Lorenzo

          On super-hard mode. And it comes with a 20-year waiting fee.

        • Roarque

          You don’t think KG chose where he was going when he ended up in Boston? Really? Were you old enough to watch the NBA when that was happening?

      • Statement

        This I agree with,

        Seriously, Chicago and Miami have the east locked down for at least the next 4 years, the best the Raps can hope for is the 2nd round.

        I just want to see some playoff games in Toronto, for fuck’s sakes, be it the Jays, the Raps, TFC, the Leafs….okay maybe not the Leafs and probably not TFC either but somebody.

        Even the Argos stink.

  • Ghotte

    Weems or Alana Anderson? Who would you choose?

    • Destro

      Neither…spend the money elsewhere…

      Im not big on Sonny Weems and i dont get the fanbase’s love affair with him…He’s an 8th man in this league…

    • Nilanka15

      I’d choose Weems over Anderson, but neither are the answer.

      It’s like choosing between masking tape and chewing gum, when what we really need is cement.

    • John

      Does it REALLY matter ??

  • John

    “Blake Murphy

    David Helm

    James Herbert

    Nils Linnenbruegger

    Sam Holako

    Scott Phillips

    Tom Liston

    Trevor Martin (chat)

    Wahab Mohammed

    Forum crew of .40 Cal Flakes, Apollo, Mango Kid, and Matt52”

    What has happened to PHDSteve ?? I think the quality of the site have also dropped this season compare to last year.
     
    The ONLY people worth reading in the site are Sam Holako, Arsenalist and AltsRap  … Rest of the crew ( no disrespect intended) have NOTHING to offer.

    • David Helm

      *Small tear running down cheek*

      • 511

        For whatever it’s worth … I for one, disagree with John. I’ve found all you guys who write on RR to be well worth the read, pretty much every time. And I’m always glad to see a new post by any of you. So, thanks. 

        • Nilanka15

          A big +1

          • mountio

            Agree completely. A huge thanks to all the writers and the posters. Even those posters who I dont agree with make this site entertaining and a nice distraction …

            • Lorenzo

              Oh definitely, maybe even a bit too much… :)

        • Lorenzo

          I second this, every single article here is ten times more interesting and real than anything you will ever read on ESPN.

        • Statement

          Well said.

    • FLUXLAND

      With the exception of the people who have media credentials or are clearly writing in hopes of getting them, the rest of the non forum crew gets a huge break because, let’s face it, this team gives you NOTHING to write about. And I think NOTHING is sugar coating it.

      (RR Chat, I see you… fluidly)

    • David Helm

      Ha, fishing for a compliment never felt so good

  • pran

    if BC does as you say and doesn’t “swing for the fences” I think we will be the 8,7,6 seed respectively over the next 3 years, all with first round knockouts. I think I would be done with basketball just b/c of the sickening mediocrity.

  • voy

    H to the Uzoh

    • Nilanka15

      lol, nice.

      • voy

        I’m thinking we should keep Uzoh just for the marketing possibilities. 

        Our first priority, this off-season, should be to get a pointguard with a last name that begins with “H”.  Then every single play in our playbook should be drawn for Uzoh just so we can hear Rod Black say “H to the Uzoh”. 

        • Nilanka15

          I’m not sure if Rod Black is that urban savvy.  He’s more likely to reference John Mellencamp.

          • voy

            haha. yeah.  I’m surprised he hasn’t compared lebron and wade to jack and diane yet.

        • pran

          I think we should get rid of uzoh just for simplicity. Not only does uzoh dribble sloppily like derozan, but he looks very similar to him as well in stature. Not to mention he wears 18, a number that sometimes looks like 10 w/ my poor eyesight. uzoh is so shit, I think he is expendable just to clear up the confusion for people streaming the game online like myself.  

          😉  haha I’m only half joking.

    • Trruth

      v to the bargnanay  (the v stands for vagina b/c it is generally known bargnani is a huge pussy who can’t defend and doesn’t rebound the ball at a decent level)

  • Berry

    You just can’t mess with destiny. As corny as it sounds, we were destined to win that game, and how the hell can we explain those wins against the red-hot Celtics, and the playoff-bound Atlanta Hawks, on the road no less, by putting forth a lineup full of D-Leaguers, how? Everything happens for a reason. Maybe this 7th spot is the lucky one, whether that small % chance allows us to grab the top pick, or whether a stud falls in our hand at 7th, somethings gotta give.

  • Rob

    So BC just had his year-end presser….I can imagine Gots2Go is scouring through articles for the latest and greatest Colangelo quotes, and it’ll only be a matter of time before he comes here and shares them with us lol.

    • KaioKev

      Oh no…… don’t awaken the beast….

      • Rob

        Oops, too late….

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      I don’t have to look up anything it’s the same ol’ same from BC & his CON Census crew post season presser- recognize game.

      Next training camp Bargnani & Jose will still be leading the Raptors squad (99.9%) with the same pre season same ol’ same. 

      PR spins in the wind……believe it or not…

      Btw- #StankNation wash your ass!!

  • Shan

    yes. all we have to do now is be bad for another three years so then when andrew wiggins declares, we’ll draft him and it’ll be the third coming of 
    lebron-cleveland
    derrick-chiago
    andrew-toronto
    three more years guys

    • cesco

       In three years time we will not be in the lottery so DO NOT follow this Wiggins guy career  , it is useless .

      • Shan

        who knows. what if derozan decides to leave, we trade bargnani, our draft pick turns into a bust, andrew wiggins decides to reclassify for one year earlier, jose calderon is traded, and the exact same thing happens next year. 
        do not underestimate the tanking powers of the raptors.the tank is strong

  • Guest

    why so pessimistic?    healthy bargnani +JV + a few capable rotation vets (FA) and this team is looking at an 8 seed next year!  They will maintain flexibility and when the high impact FA is available, I’m sure BC will jump on it.  Just because he is not going to sign a star doesn’t mean he’s not going to improve this team thru Free agency.  

    • pran

      are you kidding me?!!!! whenever I hear the word 8th seed I think death, b/c that’s what happens to teams without an explosive core who are in that position. They remain at a standstill until they are once again a lottery team.

      • Nilanka15

        Nothing wrong with the 8th seed as long as it’s a young core showing improvement (like the Bulls a few years ago).

        • Lorenzo

           Unless you’re an Atlanta or Utah type 8-seed…

          • 2damkule

            yeah, i’d hate to be in utah’s shoes…

  • Shee

    Props to Arse and all the crew for posting nice reads all year…

  • TheTyrant

    Good post. Thanks for the hard work.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    GSW wins coin flip for 7th- Raptors bad karma under BC post CB continues unabated…..smh

    #StankNation wash your ass- 8th pre lottery draw pick…

    • Rick

      Tony Wroten Jr., it was meant for us man.

  • Truthkiller

    I just gotta give the guys here at RaptorsRepublic a shout out, even in a miserable season you guys for the most part find a way to keep the post-game reads hilarious and more importantly unbiased, you guys tell it like it is and that’s what most of the people want to hear… unlike those frauds over at Fan590 & TheStar.

    Next-up: Draft Party June 28

  • Statement

    Much thanks to the Raptors Republic crew