The results are in. So how do we, the RR Readership, value each draft prospect? How do we rank the potential lottery picks? How does this stack up with “expert” or consensus rankings? Well, let’s have a look.

The Results – Full Table
Below you’ll see the full table of results for any player that received a top-14 nomination. Players were awarded 14 points for a #1 position, 13 for a #2, and so on, down to a single point for the #14 position. While this has some flaws as a methodology (should the #13 pick really get twice as many points as the #14?) it does do a good job with the prospects who come up on most ballots, and I think the “points” rankings follow a logical order, and match up well with what would be a ‘consensus’ positioning from the ballots.

Player 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 Points Ranked Unranked
Anthony Davis 34 1 2 1 524 38 0
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 3 27 7 1 488 38 0
Bradley Beal 1 1 16 11 4 3 1 1 418 38 0
Harrison Barnes 2 4 7 11 9 2 1 1 365 37 1
Thomas Robinson 4 6 11 6 1 2 2 2 1 1 364 36 2
Andre Drummond 3 3 2 6 11 4 1 1 2 1 1 318 35 3
Perry Jones III 1 1 4 10 5 2 5 1 2 1 220 32 6
Kendall Marshall 3 1 2 6 3 8 3 4 2 1 1 218 34 4
Jeremy Lamb 4 3 3 6 5 3 4 4 2 1 211 35 3
Damian Lillard 1 3 7 10 1 2 2 5 2 206 33 5
Terrence Jones 1 2 3 2 3 2 3 3 6 127 25 13
Jared Sullinger 1 1 3 6 2 4 1 3 4 114 25 13
Austin Rivers 1 1 1 4 7 7 2 7 113 30 8
Tyler Zeller 3 4 1 1 3 39 12 26
Quincy Miller 3 1 2 2 4 33 12 26
John Henson 2 1 1 2 2 31 8 30
Terrence Ross 1 4 1 1 1 27 8 30
Tony Wroten Jr. 1 1 1 3 2 23 8 30
Moe Harkless 1 2 1 1 1 23 6 32
Marquis Teague 1 1 1 1 1 21 5 33
Arnett Moultrie 1 1 1 1 1 18 5 33
Andrew Nicholson 1 1 2 12 4 34
Royce White 1 3 9 4 34
Kris Joseph 1 2 9 3 35
Meyers Leonard 1 1 8 2 36
William Buford 1 5 1 37
Jae Crowder 1 5 1 37
Dion Waiters 1 1 3 2 36
Evan Fournier 2 2 2 36
Doron Lamb 1 2 1 37
Jeff Taylor 1 2 1 37
Darius Miller 1 2 1 37
Darius Johnson-Odom 1 2 1 37
Fab Melo 1 1 1 37

The Results – Lottery Mock Comparison
The chart below shows how the RR Reader Rankings for the top-14 players compared to those of some other top draft sites. Just for a reference of Readers vs. Writers, I included my own top-14 as well as Arsenalist’s. Again,the RR Reader top-14 here is based on the top-14 point getters from the table above.

1 Anthony Davis Anthony Davis Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Anthony Davis Anthony Davis Anthony Davis
2 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Anthony Davis Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Andre Drummond Thomas Robinson
3 Bradley Beal Thomas Robinson Thomas Robinson Bradley Beal Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Andre Drummond
4 Harrison Barnes Bradley Beal Bradley Beal Thomas Robinson Thomas Robinson Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
5 Thomas Robinson Perry Jones III Harrison Barnes Andre Drummond Bradley Beal Harrison Barnes
6 Andre Drummond Harrison Barnes Andre Drummond Harrison Barnes Jared Sullinger Bradley Beal
7 Perry Jones III Jeremy Lamb Damian Lillard Perry Jones III Harrison Barnes Jeremy Lamb
8 Kendall Marshall Damian Lillard Kendall Marshall Terrence Jones John Henson Kendall Marshall
9 Jeremy Lamb Kendall Marshall Jeremy Lamb Jared Sullinger Perry Jones III Arnett Moultrie
10 Damian Lillard Andre Drummond Terrence Jones Tyler Zeller Tyler Zeller Damian Lillard
11 Terrence Jones Terrence Jones Terrence Ross Jeremy Lamb Terrence Jones Perry Jones III
12 Jared Sullinger Quincy Miller Austin Rivers Damian Lillard Jeremy Lamb Tyler Zeller
13 Austin Rivers Royce White Quincy Miller John Henson Damian Lillard Austin Rivers
14 Tyler Zeller Austin Rivers Perry Jones III Austin Rivers Kendall Marshall Jared Sullinger

The Results – R4’s Top-14

#1 – Anthony Davis
Blake’s Ranking: #1
Most Common Position: #1 (34 of 38 ballots)
Notes: He’s been considered the league’s consensus #1 for most of the year, and it was surprising that 4 different people thought he should go lower (with one even ranking him as low as #4). Still, it looks like most people are okay with The Unibrow being the face of this franchise, if the Raptors were to be so lucky in the lottery.

#2 – Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Blake’s Ranking: #2
Most Common Position: #2 (27 of 38 ballots)
Notes: Three people who didn’t like Davis gave MKG the nod at #1, while one person didn’t like him until #4. It seems he’s the consensus consollation prize after Davis, and it makes sense since this team could use the high-motor, team-first wing play he brings to the table.

#3 – Bradley Beal
Blake’s Ranking: #4
Most Common Position: #3 (16 of 38 ballots)
Notes: After Davis and MKG, every prospect had a pretty wide range of rankings. Beal was slotted anywhere from #1 (once) to #10 (once), although most saw him as the #3 (16) or #4 (11) pick. Beal’s offensive upside is obvious, but the question among the readership seems to be whether he’d be an upgrade over DeRozan or not.

#4 – Harrison Barnes
Blake’s Ranking: #6
Most Common Position: #5 (11 of 37 ballots)
Notes: After the top-3, every single player was left off of at least one ballot. Basically, people have said beyond Beal, we’re not convinced of anyone as a lottery pick, unanimously. I think that’s a bit extreme, because Barnes’ floor is that of a bench scorer, with a significantly greater upside. I ranked him a little on the lower end of his range (he was slotted in the 3-6 range on 31 of 38 submissions).

#5 – Thomas Robinson
Blake’s Ranking: #3
Most Common Position: #4 (11 of 36 ballots)
Notes: Readers seem split on Robinson, and my guess would be that some don’t like the idea of adding another non-elite PF to the mix with Ed Davis and Amir Johnson already in-house. I understand the concern, but I really liked what I saw from him throughout the college season and think he could be a difference maker. Robinson’s range spanned from #2 (4 times) to unranked, though he was in the 2-5 range on 27 of 38 ballots.

#6 – Andre Drummond
Blake’s Ranking: #10
Most Common Position: #6 (11 of 35 ballots)
Notes: I’m not necessarily sour on Drummond in general, I just don’t love the idea of trying to develop multiple bigs at the same time. If he slipped this far, which doesn’t seem likely, the Raptors would have an interesting opportunity to develop a beastly defensive front-court. Some love Drummond (he was #2 thrice, #3 thrice, and #4 twice), but he was also unranked three times and ranked out of the top-10 another two times.

#7 – Perry Jones III
Blake’s Ranking: #5
Most Common Position: #7 (10 of 32 ballots)
Notes: Like scouts, our readership seems to love him or hate him. I think he was mis-used as a big man in college and could be a dominant wing player with the right tutelage, and at #5 I don’t feel he’s riskier than anyone else available. He didn’t go higher than #4, and was unranked half a dozen times, but 6-10 seems to be his ranger for the Raps (26 of 38 ballots).

#8 – Kendall Marshall
Blake’s Ranking: #9
Most Common Position: #9 (8 of 34 ballots)
Notes: As we hit the point-guard part of the lottery, we start to see whether people choose based on need or talent. Marshall had a wider ranger than Damian Lillard, ranking both higher and lower, with a much wider spread of picks. It seems while a handful of people believe in Marshall’s leadership and ability to make others better (he ranked #9 or better on 23 of 38 ballots), still nearly half the respondents had him #10 or later, or even outside of the lottery altogether. Marshall and Lillard, it appears, are a coin-flip apart for our collective ranks.

#9 – Jeremy Lamb
Blake’s Ranking: #7
Most Common Position: #8 (6 of 38 ballots)
Notes: Jeremy Lamb is officially your “nobody knows where to slot him” award winner – he was placed everywhere from 5th to 12th at least three times, and was also 13th, 14th, or unranked a couple of times. When the “consensus” position is chosen just 15% of the time, you know there’s no sure spot for him. It’s going to be a nervous draft night for Lamb, I guess. I wonder if people used him as a “filler pick” when they didn’t want to rank someone at a certain level, using him to move around other picks.

#10 – Damian Lillard
Blake’s Ranking: #8
Most Common Position: #8 (10 of 33 ballots)
Notes: Lillard’s most common rank was higher than Marshall’s, again illustrating that his range was more narrow and he and Marshall are a bit of a coin-flip. Lillard went unranked a few times but primarily went 7th or 8th (17 of 38 ballots).

#11 – Terrence Jones
Blake’s Ranking: #11
Most Common Position: #13 (6 of 25 ballots)
Notes: After the top-10, things started to get really messy, with prospects only appearing on 60% of ballots or so. This makes sense, as the later in the draft you get the more you’d expect variance in opinions. Jones went as high as #5 (once) but I don’t think that’s realistically his draft range. #11 is technically the Raptors “worst case” lottery scenario, but it seems at least half of us would be OK with Jones in this spot if it comes to that.

#12 – Jared Sullinger
Blake’s Ranking: Unranked
Most Common Position: #9 (6 of 25 ballots)
Notes: It appears we mirror the media and scouts on Sully, as some love him (he ranked #5 once, and 9th or higher 11 times), while 13 people didn’t even see him as a lottery pick. Sullinger will never be an above-the-rim NBA player, but I think his floor is a 3rd big with his offensive polish. With that said, given the Raptors current make-up it just makes far more sense to swing for upside or draft for need.

#13 – Austin Rivers
Blake’s Ranking: #14
Most Common Position: #11, #12 and #14 (7 each of 30 ballots)
Notes: Rivers seems to be locked into the late-lottery range, slotting from 11th to 14th 23 times. Rivers would seem to have a high floor with his NBA legacy and Duke pedigree, but a second year in school really would have helped him. He has “late bloomer” written all over him as an NBA prospect because it could take him a year or two to find and accept his role (and it’s not super-duper-star, whether he thinks so or not).

#14 – Tyler Zeller, Quincy Miller
Blake’s Ranking: Unranked, #12
Most Common Position: #11 (4 of 12 ballots), #14 (4 of 12 ballots)
Notes: Zeller and Q-Millz tied in points, neither ranked above #10 (three times each), and they were both left off of 26 ballots altogether. This late, the draft and rankings are a crap-shoot, but RR Nation seems to like Zeller’s floor as a bench big with energy, or Miller’s upside after a year or two of further developing his game.

Others Receiving Votes
Blake’s Ranking: Royce White #13
Notes: I don’t know Royce White personally, but I can’t see someone with an anxiety disorder being comfortable in a new country. With that said, in strictly basketball terms he’d be a steal outside of the lottery. John Henson appeared on a hanful of ballots, and I feel like he’d have been on more if people thought he could play the wing effectively. Terrence Ross fits the bill of “shooter” in our “needs” column. Tony Wroten Jr and Marquis Teague are questionable PGs in the lottery but potential steals later in the draft. Moe Harkless, Arnett Moultrie, Andrew Nicholson, Kris Joseph, Meyers Leonard, William Buford, and Jae Crowder all received at least one top-10 vote but not enough late-lottery love to crack the top-14. Dion Waiters, Evan Fournier, Doron Lamb, Jeff Taylor, Darius Miller, Darius Johnson-Odom, and Fab Melo also received votes, bringing the list of potential lottery picks to an astounding 34.

This was a lot of fun….we obviously won’t be able to do something similar for our 2nd round pick (it would be all over the place, and far too contingent on what happens in the first round), but hopefully this fosters some more discussion to carry us through these awful, hurtful, awesome, exciting, why-can’t-we-be-there NBA playoffs. Please try to keep the discussion clean and friendly…or at the very least try to keep race/background out of it. Attack the idea, not the person. Or something like that.

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  • sleepz

    Arse – MKG #1!!! Outlandish. lol

    Terrence Jones will have a more productive NBA career than MKG.

    • Nilanka15

      That’s a very bold statement, my friend ūüėČ

      • sleepz

        Lol, I think it’s a bold statement whenever I see MKG in all the mock drafts going top 3. I don’t think he will live up to that draft slot.Rebounding and defence is great but if you are a¬†wing player you have to be able to score the rock.¬†I don’t think he will be a consistent offensive scorer from the wing in the pro’s.

        Look at T.Jones college numbers. Shots were down this year due to talent infusion at Kentucky¬†but he can score, rebounds, and the sneaky thing about him is look at the blocks and steals totals the last 2 years. Definite potential there from the 3 and he’s over 6’8.

        I specialize in boldness! lol

        • K.J.P

          I like T Jones too, but do you really pass the first 10 guys on that list for him? Not sure. I do like the boldness though and hopefully we see some superstars out of this draft. 

          • sleepz

            Good question. That’s why they pay these GM’s to make these tough decisions.

            One thing we know, there are always players slotted to go high in every draft (in every sport actually) that don’t live up to the selection and others that are drafted lower that turn into great players.

            If I was a GM and had the #2 pick I would be trying to make a deal (maybe to #4 or #5 pick) if the consensus is MKG at that spot and move back. If there is a player I like more than him, and I have a few, I would try to maximize the returns on this pick.

            • Theswirsky

              the one thing about MKG is¬†that there¬†is probably nothing that can be fixed easier than a jumpshot.¬† Doesn’t mean he’ll ever be a Ray Allen or Reggie Miller.¬† The great shooters of the league came in as good to great shooters.¬† But there are no shortage of examples of perimeter players who came in with a weak jumper and have turned it into a reliable one.

              Personally I find the biggest concerns I have with players coming into the league is if :

              1) everything is based on athleticism Рnot saying being athletic is a hinderance, but when their success is almost exclusively based on being able to jump high (hello Demar Derozan)

              2) tweener size – when someone says they are to quick for PFs but to large for¬†SFs I immediately see ‘they are to small for PFs and to slow for SFs’ and ofcourse the classic sg in a pg body

              3) skinny¬†– there are skinny guys that put on weight after they come into the NBA, but they aren’t that common.¬† Not expecting a rookie to have an ‘NBA ready body’, but I’m sure we could locate and ‘average rookie’ size that could be a loose standard.¬†

              Doesn’t mean one shouldn’t take a chance on a guy if they fit into one of the above… but I’d want them to be able to do a variety of things if they do

              • mountio

                At least you dont have to worry about #3 with Sullinger ..

                • Theswirsky

                  don’t have to worry about 1 or 2 either….

                • mountio

                  you FOR SURE have to worry about 2 …

                • Theswirsky

                  exactly how? 

                • mountio

                  Hes an undersized 4 (especially since he cant jump .. Im not even buying 6’9″, let alone 6’10’). As a result, he will be completely ineffective in the post against 4s. So – he has started to try to develop the game of more of a 3 (ie David West) .. expect he has no quickness and his shot is marginal (albeit better than it was last year)..

                • mountio

                  I could even go one step further and say hes a WAY undersized 5 (in terms of his skill set and who he could guard on D, hes closest to a 5 given lack of athleticism / quickness)

                • Theswirsky

                  “Im not even buying 6’9″,”

                  based on what?  Your angle from the couch? 

                  And since when does David West have the game of a 3?

                  You do realize Sullinger can shoot even if he won’t be a big 3pt threat right?¬†

                  Exactly how many games of his did you see?  1?

                • mountio

                  see below – this is too skinny

                • A B


              • sleepz

                I hear you but I don’t just think it’s just his shot. He also cannot create suitably to be a really good 3 in the NBA, imho.

                At Kentucky he played the swing but wasn’t really asked to play like one. Most of his buckets were transition opportunites, (no surprises there with Davis in that team) and rebound putbacks.

                I could end up being completely wrong, only time will tell, but I would not take him with a top 3 pick

                • Theswirsky

                  not doubting you really… I guess I always think of his biggest knock being his shooting/range.

                  But I agree about the Kentucky transition game… its not going to suprise me to see any of those guys struggle, especially early,¬†on a slow paced team

                • sleepz

                  Things will definitely slow down next year for them in the pros.

                  That’s why I mentioned T.Jones. Although his numbers were down from his freshman year I think he has a pro’s game. I especially liked his blocks and steals #’s from his time in college.¬†

                • Beaverboi

                  One of the things I liked about MKG was his size. Watching Miami play, it just seems like Lebron and Wade take up half the court on D. Its like playing NBA jam. They just seem bigger than anyone else, partly their size and partly their ability to cover so much ground. Even though it was against college players, MGK appeared the same way. His handles might not be the tightest, but that never stopped him from taking the ball hard to the rim, something Toronto is lacking right now. I almost picture him trash talking Demar for shying away from contact.

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      Terrence Ross is the best SG coming out at a legit 6’6 w/o shoes, a smoove J and crazy athleticism

  • voy

    I like how everyone is talking about sleepz like he’s a bbq sauce.

    Anyway, I wouldn’t chase him but if pj3 falls into the teens and I could give up ED for jones3 I would seriously consider making that deal.¬† I dont know if that is too much of a pipe dream but I think a JV and a pj3 5/4 combo could fit together nicely.¬†

    • sleepz

      Lol, I hear you.

      PJ3 could be great value if he drops. He would have went top 5 last year if he came out. I do think he might need a stern coach and Casey certainly fits the bill.¬†When I look at the players in this draft I am liking it more and more. Maybe there aren’t superstars that jump out at you but you have some real talent that you can find in the first round that can help your team going forward and my hope is that the Raps are able to secure a 2nd pick. I mean PJ3 or Austin Rivers could go outside the top 12 which would be great value. I’m not big on Sullinger but he could be picked outside¬†of the top 10 possibly.

      Rookies might not help you win now but this team needs a serious talent infusion and at a fixed cost to the team. Don’t overspend for questionable FA’s.

    • Nilanka15

      I’d only draft PJ3 if he can play SF.

  • mountio

    Good list. I think the RR readers have it right for the most part. Interesting how we seem to overvalue Barnes vs everyone else. I guess thats either because a) we think hell still be around and we are talking oursleves into him or b) this list is supposed to represent the way the Raps should pick (ie with SF/PG ahead of other positions) vs other teams in general…
    Glad to see Sullinger deep, deep on the list ..

    • CalgaryRapsFan

      I had the same thought about Barnes being the 3rd wing, taken ahead of Robinson & Drummond.¬† It really speaks to the whole “Best Player Available VS Good Player & Team Needs” debate.

    • Raps Loyalist

       Barnes is a top 5 talent easy.  He is where he should be.  great athlete, greater defender, great shooter.  He lacks skillz taking the ball to the hoop but he need shooters just as much, if not more, than slashers. 

      I pray he falls and we get him

  • HitItHardFromTheBack

    Some of yall sleepin on my boy HB. He got a lotta haters but straight up he gon be the steal of this draft, GMs gon be wishin they ain’t listen to em skeptics/haters. He ain’t one of em hoodrats that just play for love of the fame, this dude play for love of the games. Straight up, H.Barnes a multiple all-star and a game changer, talkin Kobe-style. Ayo, game recognize game…. Playas gonna play, rollers gonna roll, ballers gonna ball, and HB be gettin it. []Deace.

    • onemanweave

      Someone posted that BC wasn’t interested in a second first-round pick. Hope that is false. This is the kind of draft where you can bomb quite easily on a top-five pick and score big on a 5-20.¬†
      ¬† ¬† I know that’s the case every year but this draft is acutely unpredictable.¬† Scouting and luck will play big roles. Wish the Raps had access to the Spurs’ scouting staff.

      • sleepz


        • Draftstar

          +1 Maybe the Red Rocket can place a listening device for us or we can provide specially equipped draft tables for the venue? After JV though, we have to be careful – they might just want to listen to us instead!

  • CalgaryRapsFan

    From a Raptors perspective, I completely agree with the top 11, with perhaps a few minor disagreements about the exact order.

    I see this draft having many tiers.¬† At certain picks, it comes down to choosing the best player left from a particular tier, or choosing a player from the next tier who fills a need and fits better on a particular team’s roster.¬† It should make for a very interesting draft night (and a very interesting analysis once the lottery is held May 30th).

  • mountio

    Swirsk – re Sullinger above

    Why am I not buying the 6’9′? Because I watched him play in college and get his shot blocked rutinely by post men in college. These guys are no where near the size and strength of NBA big men (ofte6’7′- 6’9ish, maybe a shade taller and pretty skinny).
    As for how many games Ive seen .. I assume im like pretty much everyone else here .. I saw a handful of OSU games last year and this year .. maybe 10 in total give or take. Last year, he was a fatty that overpowered with sheer weight. This year he was in better shape – Ill give him that, but struggled mightily in the tourney (was the 2nd or 3rd best player on his own team most nights). His post aresonal consists of lean into the guy and either get blocked or fouled. Not NBA ready imo.
    As for David West .. the comparison is a guy who is too small to play in the post as a 4, so often takes his man out to the wing and either shoots a J or takes him off the dribble (ie the skills normally more associated with a 3).

    • Theswirsky

      Alot of the ‘getting his shot blocked by long defenders’ came from a single game against a top shot blocker in the NCAA (and just as a note, even if we pretend what you say is true¬†getting his ‘shot blocked routinely’ has nothing to do with height… just ask Shawn Bradley.)

      “His post aresonal consists of lean into the guy and either get blocked or fouled.”

      If you actually believe that¬†then¬†I question how much you actually watched him, but I’m going chalk that up to an exageration.¬†

      Will he get his shot blocked?¬† Yeah no doubt he will, he is a below the rim¬†post player.¬† That happens.¬† But he¬†is also incredibly efficient.¬† Coming into the NBA with the best post game in the college.¬† Has shooting range (again you either ignore this or didn’t watch him), length, and great hands.

      Alot of what people don’t like about Sullinger comes down to one thing, he is not athletic.¬† But we see no shortage of unathletic players, who are effective because they are strong, smart and¬†efficient players.¬†

      I have no problems for people not liking Sullinger.¬† I wasn’t suprised to see him averaged¬†near the bottom of this mock¬†draft.¬† But don’t make stuff up about him.¬†¬†

      • mountio

        As i tried to goggle quickly for how many times he got his shot blocked (im sure its a big number outside of what I assume you are referring to as the Kansas game) I found this article.
        Not me “making stuff up” .. but a pretty decent piece which pretty much sums up my thoughts on Sullinger

        Clearly I get where we diverged. It drives you crazy when overhyped “athletic”, “skill” players get too much props. I take that point, but note that to be a star in this league you need to have those physical talents. Id rather roll the dice for a star and end up with someone like AB when I was hoping for Dirk then take somone who will be like Big Baby Davis / Corliss / Sean May, when I know all Im ever gonna get is Big Baby Davis/ maybe David West best case…

        • Theswirsky

          you do realize you referenced a bleacher report article right?

          • mountio

            did you read it?

  • FAQ

    Raptors are condemned to being an “international” team mainly because da homies don’ wanna play in Toronto up there in¬† Canada.¬† Don’t blame them for their valid attitude towards Toronto because most are just kids one year out of high school and no apparent education.¬† They just want money, girls, fun, girls, cars, etc…. and Toronto ain’t a hot spot for those things.

    I hope that BC is negotiating a trade with several teams for their draft pick and getting another half-decent Euro veteran player to entertain multiculti Toronto.¬† Raptors don’t need another raw development rookie because that would be disastrous now.

    • Beaverboi

      Toronto ain’t a hotspot for girls? I would love to see some other US citiies talent pool, cuz every time I’m in the city I feel like I have whiplash from looking so much. Maybe its cuz I’m from a small hick town that any girl with all her teeth is hot, but next to Calgary (wow, is all I can say) Toronto has some pretty fine ladies….

  • onemanweave

    You need to get out of Newark occasionally. It would lesson that sour feeling in your stomach and the strain on your star-spangled underwear.
    ¬† ¬† Toronto needs talent and ‘raw rookies’ provide the best hope for a top talent to emerge, even if it proves ‘disastrous’ to that well-oiled machine we watched this season.

  • Truthkiller

    I think Raptors fans overhype Beal a little bit too much, an undersized 2 guard… we already have Jerryd Bayless for that. Don’t tell me he’s 6″5 b/c he’s not he’s only 6″3. How you going to guard the Paul George on the wing?

    • 2damkule

      hmm…i wonder if that’s why wade ‘slipped’ to 5th?¬† unless a guy is defending with his head, his actual ‘height’ is somewhat irrelevant.¬† i’m more interested in lateral quicks & wingspan (among other things, like strength, obv) when evaluating whether someone – especially a perimeter player – has the physical ability to defend at the NBA level…and do so against bigger, stronger competition.

      as for paul george…you may have a point, but i’d wager that most NBA 2’s would struggle to defend if isolated, but he’s more an exception vs. the rule in terms of size amongst NBA 2-guards…most fall in the 6’5″-6’7″ range.¬† so yeah, he (beals) would¬†be undersized, and that’s a ‘risk’, i suppose…but if he can ball, he can ball.¬† and it’s not as though he’d be any kind of downgrade defensively compared to DD…

      • sleepz

        Beals’ definitely not Wade.

        • 2damkule

          no doubt, but i wasn’t comparing the two…simply wondering whether his size caused him to drop…obviously, he was very highly regarded to go so high in a stacked draft class…but if he had more classic 2-guard size (say, 6’6″), would he have gone higher?¬† or that if any GM had an inkling that the wade at marquette would turn into¬†a future HOFer, would he have gone 2nd (at worst).

  • FAQ

    C’mon people…!!!!¬† What will another draft rookie do for the Raptors?¬† More importantly, for the rookie, how will he contribute and develop on this strange Raptor roster?¬† Can you imagine being a draft rookie being thrown on the court with this disparate bunch of Raptor players and facing real teams?¬† Toronto has got to be the worst destination for first round draft picks.¬† Of course, second round picks are¬† just happy to be on any team… even Toronto.

    That’s why BC should trade the first round pick for an established veteran who can fit into the Euro-team environment.

    • 2damkule

      sigh…didn’t you notice that almost no one was interested enough in your previous trolling/baiting post to bother to comment (and the one who did commented on a completely-unrelated-to-basketball point)?¬† you should probably take that as a hint.

    • Raps Loyalist

      Name a few players who you think the Raps could get in a swap for their first round pick that would be into the “euro-team environment”??

      T.Evans would be my first choice to target from another rebuilding team that might be looking for another top pick in the draft.

      Another option is flipping the pick Houston’s two first rounders (#14 and 16)

  • Rus

    BC’s draft history in the lottery is exemplary, his history of making trades, not so much…I’m hoping he simply drafts like he has in the past…
    95 – Finley
    96 – Nash
    97 – S.Jackson
    99 – Marion
    02 – Stoudemire
    06 – Bargs
    09 – DD
    10 – Ed
    11 – JV
    Sure he has some duds like Cabarkapa and Tsakalidis but the list above is very impressive

    Trading in or around the time of the draft
    98 – traded Nash for an assortment of vomit
    01 – Kidd for Marbury….
    03 – ok this one was good, got Barbosa for a future 1st
    04 – traded Deng for more vomit
    05 – traded Gortat for cash?
    07 – Kapono…
    08 – goodbye Hibbert
    09 – Turk….

    yep, I hope he drafts…..

  • Rus

    Barnes would be a good fit because even though he can’t create his own shot, Calderon could get him great looks consistently. He plays D, he isn’t great but he is good. He’ll never live up to that early hype but he’ll score in the NBA, that is certain.

    The only problem, will he be available at the lower end of the lottery, probably not, so now can BC move up to get him, is he worth moving up? Tough spot