Was in Vegas till Thursday, got a couple “stories”. Game 5 and Spurs are laying five at home to OKC. I’m thinking they’ve lost two straight, are back at home, and will set the wrongs all right. I’m this close to laying a grand on them and pull back a the last second. Winning decision. Spurs lose at home. A day later, Chris Bosh returns and Miami is laying 7.5 at home. The action on Miami is HEAVY in Vegas, so much so that the line has climbed to 9. I call a few guys, ask them what they think of a Miami bet, and all give the OK. I back out again because the line feels like it’s too high. Another great decision. So, I didn’t bet anything on sports but felt like I won. Such is gambling.

Colangelo’s talking about the draft and says that the Raptors are likely to be the first team to seriously consider a point guard, and mentions Damian Lillard as a point of interest. ESPN Insider analysis of Lillard:

Weber State’s Damian Lillard received the most buzz. Lillard’s agent gave him the choice to skip the event, but he decided he wanted to play. “I just wanted to show teams that I’m not afraid to compete with the best,” he said. “I’ve been working really hard, and I wanted to show them who I am.”

Teams liked that he decided to play. It was especially important for Lillard because a number of head coaches, owners and even some executives were in the crowd who had never seen him live. Lillard shot the lights out in the shooting drills, then had no trouble getting to the basket in the one-on-one portion of the event. “He looked like a legit lottery pick,” one GM said. That’s all he needed to accomplish.

He also talks about how Dion Waiters went home early from the combine and cancelled his interview with the Raptors because, Colangelo thinks, somebody potentially offered him a “guarantee”. What a little punk this kid is, even if you have a guarantee, your first act as a professional is to cancel an interview? The other school of thought is that its the Raptors who have offered him a guarantee at #8. I don’t know, I really don’t care because I can’t even recall the last time we drafted a rookie that got me excited.

This here is Ed Stefanksi saying that it takes three years to figure out if a guy is cut for the NBA. Sonny Weems. Chris Jefferies. P.J. Tucker. Countless others, and perhaps even James Johnson, although I think he’s going to find a place in the NBA. Stefanksi’s draft comment is that in the perfect world the Raptors would be drafting a small forward, which is a quite an indictment on James Johnson.

Say we draft a rookie and slot him at the SF or SG (maybe move DeRozan over). This would mean a starting lineup of: Valanciunas, Bargnani, DeRozan, Calderon, and new guy. If that is the case, then we can scratch off playoffs as a target for next season because in the increasingly competitive Eastern conference, that’s not going to buy you a milkshake. We finished 12 games out of a playoff spot last year, and adding two rookies playing big minutes into the mix is only going to push that number further out. No worries, though, I’m all for rebuilding and can totally take another .348 season without batting an eye.

Here are all the draft measurements form the combine:

Name

Ht. w/o shoes

Ht. w/ shoes

Wt.

Wingspan

Reach

Body fat (%)

Hand length

Hand width

Quincy Acy

6’6.5″

6’7.75″

223.8

7’2.75″

8’10.5″

7.1

9.5″

11″

Harrison Barnes

6’7″

6’8″

227.8

6’11.25″

8’6″

9.6

9″

8.5″

Will Barton

6’5″

6’6″

174.4

6’9.75″

8’7″

4.1

9″

9.5″

Bradley Beal

6’3.25″

6’4.75″

201.8

6’8″

8’3″

6

8.5″

9″

J’Covan Brown

6’1″

6’2.25″

202.4

6’5.25″

7’11.5″

12.5

7.75″

8.25″

William Buford

6’4″

6’5″

214.6

6’9.5″

8’6″

11.3

8.75″

10″

Jae Crowder

6’4.75″

6’6.5″

241.2

6’9.25″

8’3″

9

9.5″

10.5″

Jared Cunningham

6’3.5″

6’5″

187.6

6’6.5″

8’2″

3.6

8.25″

9.75″

Anthony Davis

6’9.25″

6’10.5″

221.8

7’5.5″

9’0″

7.9

9″

8.5″

Marcus Denmon

6’2.25″

6’3.25″

188.2

6’5″

7’10”

6.6

8.25″

9.75″

Andre Drummond

6’9.75″

6’11.75″

278.6

7’6.25″

9’1.5″

7.5

9.5″

9.5″

Kim English

6’4.5″

6’5.75″

192

6’6.5″

8’3″

4.3

8.5″

8.75″

Festus Ezeli

6’9.75″

6’11.5″

264.2

7’5.75″

8’10”

5.5

9″

10.75″

Drew Gordon

6’8″

6’8.75″

239

6’11.5″

8’8.5″

9.1

8.5″

9.75″

Draymond Green

6’5.75″

6’7.5″

235.6

7’1.25″

8’10”

11.3

9″

9.5″

JaMychal Green

6’8″

6’9″

217.4

7’2.25″

8’9.5″

9.8

9.25″

9.25″

Moe Harkless

6’7.25″

6’8.75″

206.6

7’0″

8.75″

5.3

9.25″

10.25″

John Henson

6’9″

6’10”

216

7’5″

9’3.5″

8.6

9.25″

10″

Tu Holloway

5’10.5″

5’11.75″

186.8

6’5.5″

7’10.5″

8.5

8.75″

10″

Robbie Hummel

6’7.25″

6’8.5″

218

6’8.5″

8’5.5″

9.4

8.5″

9.5″

Bernard James

6’8.75″

6’10”

229.8

7’3″

9’0.5″

5

9″

9.25″

John Jenkins

6’3.25″

6’4.25″

212

6’8.5″

8’3.5″

7.1

9″

9″

Orlando Johnson

6’3.75″

6’5.25″

223.8

6’11.25″

8’3″

7

9″

9.5″

Darius Johnson-Odom

6’1.5″

6’3″

212

6’7″

7’10.5″

7

8.75″

8.75″

Kevin Jones

6’6.25″

6’7.5″

251.2

7’1.5″

8’9.5″

11.2

9″

7.75″

Perry Jones

6’10.25″

6’11.25″

233.8

7’1.75″

8’10.5″

4.6

9.25″

9.5″

Terrence Jones

6’8.25″

6’9.5″

252

7’2.25″

8’9.5″

7.7

9″

10″

Kris Joseph

6’6″

6’7″

215

6’11”

8’7.5″

8.6

9″

9″

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

6’5.75″

6’7.5″

232.8

7’0″

8’8.5″

7

9″

10″

Doron Lamb

6’3.25″

6’4.75″

199.4

6’6.75″

8.3″

6.7

8.5″

8.5″

Jeremy Lamb

6’4″

6’5.25″

179.2

6’11”

8’5″

4.5

8.75″

9.5″

Meyers Leonard

6’11.75″

7’1.25″

249.8

7’3″

9’0.5″

5.7

9.25″

10″

Damian Lillard

6’1.75″

6’2.75″

188.8

6’7.75″

8’0″

5.9

8.75″

9.75″

Scott Machado

6’1″

6’2″

205.8

6’4″

7’9.5″

5.8

8.5″

9.5″

Kendall Marshall

6’3.25″

6’4.25″

198.4

6’5.5″

7’10.5″

7.8

8.5″

9″

Fab Melo

6’10.75″

7’0″

255

7’2.5″

9’1.5″

9.2

9″

10″

Khris Middleton

6’6.75″

6’8.25″

216.2

6’10.75″

8’9″

7.8

9″

9″

Darius Miller

6’6″

6’7.5″

233.4

6’9″

8’6.5″

7.5

8.5″

8.75″

Quincy Miller

6’8.75″

6’10”

218.7

7’1.25″

9’1″

7.8

9.25″

10.25″

Tony Mitchell

6’5.25″

6’6.25″

216.4

6’10”

8’3.5″

5.7

8.75″

10″

Arnett Moultrie

6’9.5″

6’10.75″

232.8

7’2.25″

8’10.5″

7.7

9.25″

9.25″

Kevin Murphy

6’5″

6’6.25″

194

6’6.75″

8’4″

5.8

8.5″

8.5″

Andrew Nicholson

6’8.5″

6’9.5″

234

7’4″

8’10.5″

7.6

10″

10.75″

Kyle O’Quinn

6’8.5″

6’10”

240.8

7’4.75″

9’3.5″

8

9.5″

10″

Miles Plumlee

6’10.5″

6’11.75″

252.4

7’0.75″

8’8.5″

11.4

9.25″

9″

Austin Rivers

6’3.5″

6’5″

202.8

6’7.25″

8’1″

6.2

8.5″

10″

Thomas Robinson

6’7.75″

6’8.75″

244.2

7’3.25″

8’10”

5

9.75″

10.5″

Terrence Ross

6’6″

6’7″

196.6

6’7.25″

8’5″

3.2

8.75″

10.25″

Tomas Satoransky

6’6.5″

6’7.5″

200.6

6’7.25″

8’4″

5.2

8.5″

9.5″

Mike Scott

6’7.25″

6’8.75″

240.8

6’10.75″

8’8.5″

10.6

8.5″

9″

Henry Sims

6’10”

6’11.75″

241.2

7’4″

8’11”

7.7

9.25″

10″

Jared Sullinger

6’7.75″

6’9″

268.2

7’1.25″

8’11”

10.7″

9.25″

9.75″

Jeffery Taylor

6’6″

6’7.25″

212.8

6’6.25″

8’3.5″

4.2

8.25″

9.75″

Jordan Taylor

6’1″

6’2″

192.8

6’3″

7’8″

5.5

8.25″

9.5″

Tyshawn Taylor

6’2.75″

6’4″

177

6’6.25″

8’1.5″

4.2

8.75″

8.75″

Marquis Teague

6’1″

6’2″

179.8

6’7.25″

8’2.5″

6.3

8.25″

7.75″

Hollis Thompson

6’6.75″

6’8″

206

6’9.5″

8.75″

6

8.25″

9.75″

Dion Waiters

6’2.5″

6’4″

221

6’7.25″

8’2″

8.5

8.5″

9.5″

Royce White

6’7″

6’8″

260.6

7’0″

8’8.5″

10.6

9.5″

11.5″

Tony Wroten Jr.

6’4.75″

6’6″

203.2

6’9″

8’5″

5.2

8″

9″

Tyler Zeller

6’11.25″

7’0.5″

247.4

7’0″

8’8″

6.4

9″

9.75″

Let’s analyze the Raptors splash page:

  • mountio

    Good stories. Would have been better if you actually laid the $ on the Cs or OKC .. but I guess beggars cant be chosers.
    Most interesting measurements out of the combine. Sullinger is less than one inch taller than Barnes …

    • Rookie

       But he’s the same height as Robinson

      • voy

        thats why I would avoid robinson too. few sf skills. little pf size.

        • Morgan

          Great wingspan for a PF though for Robinson at 7’3.25″.

      • mountio

        But Robinson has SF skills .. Sullinger does not ..

        • Theswirsky

          why would either play sf?

          • mountio

            Its not a matter of whether they would play the majority of their time at SF. Its a question of whether they have the versaility to a) guard SFs (or smaller PFs) and b) spend some time at SF in smaller lineups. I see Robinson as absolutely being able to guard (as well as anyone can) a Lebron type player (ala Brandon Bass) .. whereas Sullinger has no hope whatsoever.
            On the flip side, I cant see any big man that Sullinger could guard (or play against) that Robinson couldnt do the same.

  • GC

    LOL @ the raptors splash page ^_^

  • http://jtshoopsblog.blogspot.com/ JT’s Hoops Blog

    I could not believe that Jared Sullinger is only 6′ 7″ w/o shoes and Andre Drummond is just 6′ 9 when he was listed at 7′ 1″ .  he should have stayed in UConn.

  • Rus

    Royce White …
    interviewed extremely well,
    has gigantic hands, Rondo like….
    is built like a mack truck at 260
    Put up impressive numbers,

    But a fear of flying drops him to the late first round….?
    I don’t have a fear of flying, so I don’t, and can’t understand, but seriously, couldn’t his fear be overcome?

    • Raptorsss

      Your displaying, and at least admitting to, your ignorance of what an anxiety disorder is.  His disorder in no way should affect his ability to perform on the basketball court, it will only affect other aspects of his daily life.  His problem isn’t merely just a fear of flying.  

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    I interrupt this blog with a special announcement to all Raptors fans……..

    The REBUILD and BUILDING phase of Raptors basketball is over as per BC & Casey at the season ending presser.

    So no matter what you think about continuing the rebuild (nothing more than a BC pr media spin on losing) it is OVER!!!

    Now back to your regular blog particulars……

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      Also, Chris Bosh is a legit member of the Big 3- Big Shot Bosh!

      BC, how my ass taste? (CB voice) lol

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        AB takes 10 plus games to come back from an injury before getting hurt again- CB is back in the flow after 3 games (in the playoffs at that)…..

        • HitItHardFromTheBack

          Man straight up fuck the Heat. KD and OKC got this series and Bron aint gettin his ring. Mad respect to Rondo n KG for walkin out on they fake ass. #TeamBeatHeat #OKCin6

      • mountio

        The best distance shooting performance of CB’s career! Where the hell did that come from? Ill never know .. but sure as hell give him credit for steppin up in a huge game. People talk about Ibaka’s 11 for 11 .. I was much more shocked that CB hit 3 3s and was something like 8 for 10.
        Cant wait for the finals. Lebron playing at an all-time level (almost got the Heat there with no CB and a limited contribution from Wade)
        OKC rolling too .. should be awesome .. glad the best two teams made it.

  • GC

    We should trade for Tyreke Evans and Rudy Gay or draft a sf or sg.

    • boshrawr

      Raptors fans need to stop dreaming about the possibility of gay playing in Toronto. I think that ship has sailed. The grizzlies owner recently apparently stated that gay has been taken off the trading block and the asking price for Evans might be too high. I’m gradually starting to believe that we are gonna address our issues through the draft with a lamb or a lillard and possibly Barnes slipping to us. Remember it was a stroke of luck that Jonas slipped to us last year in the first place.

      • GC

        im just throwing it out there it would be nice to have gay as our franchise 3 going forward. i do agree that it would be nice to draft a lamb or barnes, but i would also be pleased with a PJ, TJ, A Rivers or Moe Harkless…

        • boshrawr

          I also like the idea of pj3 regardless of what people say. If we can train him at the 3 I think the length in your front court could be overwhelming for oppositions. Also saw a mock that had us drafting him rivers. I don’t however see how he fits in to our squad and what his role would be.

          • AB7.38pt.on.CB4

            Pj3 if beal is gone. I agree. Can play 1-4 position , size , can shoot from long range, create his own shot. Yes I know someone says he has no heart,no motor, disappear sometimes But in a system like Casey’s Raptors I like it. The most important for next year offensively is to spread the floor for either AB and DD.Rudy Gay was obviously fantastic,Iggy not so much. I can see PJ3 as a reliable player in Nba in a well organized team.

            • voy

              yeah, i think pj3 could be a great fit beside jv.  you have a high energy hustle guy to do most of the  dirty work playing the 5 beside a superskilled player with size playing the 4. I really like the combination.

              • Nilanka15

                I really like the idea of PJ3 as a SF, but have no interest in him as a PF.  He apparently sees himself as a TMac type.

                • voy

                  i think there is only so tall you can be and still be effective as a sf.  I dont know if he has the consistent deep jumper you’d ideally want in a 3 and even though his handle is great for a guy 6’10-6’11 I dont think its exceptional for the sf position.  in my opinion, i think pj3 has more advantages over other pf than he has over nba 3s. 

                  should be interesting come draft night.

      • WJF

        I think it was more that the Grizz are not shopping Gay, but if the right offer comes along to improve the team they are open to it. They wont make calls, but they will accept them. 

    • Tesla

      Sacramento isn’t going to give Evans an extension

  • John

    andre drummond with the biggest wingspan in the draft and heaviest with low body fat and 6th tallest in the draft. this kid is a monster

  • Koncept

    What the fcuk. Lamb sounds like an idiot in his interview on raps.com. “not picky about toronto, not saying i wanna go, not saying i dont wanna go’ lol c’mon

  • Adriiian

    Hand measurements? Who gives a shit? LOL

    • Tesla

      Kwame Brown does.

    • Morgan

      Everyone does, big hands allows Rondo to do that sick behind-the-back ball fake, big hands allow for palming, better ball control when grabbing a rebound, maintaining possession, or handling a pass, and allows for great ball fakes as mentioned. Having bigger hands is certainly an advantage.

    • 2damkule

      well, when you’re low-post scoring option with little mitts is constantly having the ball stripped, it might matter then.  it’s certainly not going to make or break a drafting decision, but it – along with all these other seemingly irrelevant measurements – do factor into the big picture. 

  • Triano?

    The only advantage of taking Lillard at #8 is the increased likelihood that Colangelo gets fired.

  • raptorpoo

    The comment “I’m all for rebuilding and can totally take another .348 season without batting an eye” hit it right on the spot. We ain’t going anywhere with this “we got our core pieces so let’s build around that” train of thought cause we got jack.

    Gotta say Arsenalist is one of the only guys that writes/manages this site that knows what their taking about. RR’s moderator’s opinions I find are pretty dumb. Seems to think we’re on the right track to becoming a champion team.

    Arsenalist, you’re like a breath of fresh air. Thank you.

  • raptors

    say NO to Lillard, he turns 22 this summer so he is already much older than the rest of his draft class and he has reached the height of his potential and is a bayless clone

  • mountio

    For people who havent been watching the NBA draft combine .. you should tune in on NBATV. Its a little boring / slow (youre basically watching guys run through a bunch of shooting / passing drills for 2 straight hours) .. but it doesnt give you a good handle on who can do what and how guys compete / dont compete.