After the Lowry post, Blake Murphy emailed me this, explaining why Lowry looked so bad:

Re: your Lowry piece, the Rockets only had 2 above-average 3-pt shooters in the rotation, plus their centers (Sam & Camby) are complete voids offensively. I have some faith in his ability to improve his playmaking out of the p&r with our personnel, both because of a team more built for it (more shooters, theoretically, JoVal, AB>Scola) and because he has great incentive to do so – with 2yrs left on his deal and his desire to be seen as a PG1, seems like the type to be highly motivated to fix areas where criticized and/or where his PG2 excels (in this case, Jose in the p&r).

Blake generally knows what he’s talking about, so he’s probably right. Fear not Republic, we have signed a good point guard, not the next version of Jarrett Bayless.

Yesterday, Marc Stein, posted this neat bit of insight regarding how the Raptors wooed Nash (this type of insight should really be coming from our own media people but whatever):

Raptors president and general manager Bryan Colangelo was the first caller to get through shortly after 12:01 a.m. Officials from the Knicks, Heat, Lakers, Mavericks and Nets dialed in soon thereafter. And with his client sitting in such close proximity after their late-night meal, Duffy offered each team that rang an opportunity to speak directly to Nash.

It didn’t seem like much at the time, but that’s when Nash and Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak had their first chat. Kupchak let Duffy know that he was well aware of Nash’s comments to Stephen A. Smith on ESPN New York 98.7 just days before about how “hard” it would be “to put on a Lakers jersey” after all of the Suns’ playoffs battles with Kobe Bryant and Co. When Kupchak explained that he “had to call anyway,” Duffy thanked him and assured him that he was wise to check in, dismissing Nash’s quotes as “media hype.”

Yet that’s as far as things went with the Lakers on Day 1. Face-to-face meetings were quickly arranged with the two most obvious serious suitors to get the Nash sweepstakes officially underway: Toronto and New York.

The Raptors were first up at 10:30 a.m., with a seven-strong contingent of team officials arriving on a cross-country flight arranged by Raptors co-owner Larry Tanenbaum. With Raptors assistant coach Eric Hughes getting married that weekend in Pasadena, Calif., Tanenbaum made his private jet available to transport Colangelo, Raptors coach Dwane Casey, Nash’s former Team Canada coach Jay Triano and the rest of the group to the other side of the country as quickly as possible overnight.

Tanenbaum also provided his ritzy Central Park apartment to serve as the venue for what Duffy described as a “big presentation.” The food was lavish and the contract offer rich, but the video compilation Colangelo ordered up for the occasion made an impression on Nash that moved him more than a three-year, $36 million pitch ever could — largely because Wayne Gretzky was the narrator.

Rumbles that Gretzky, one of Nash’s boyhood heroes, would be involved in the Raptors’ Nash pitch leaked out through the Toronto media before the two parties got together, but “involved” was understating it. The Great One’s unmistakable voice was the backdrop for a compilation of clips and interviews that traced Nash’s lifelong journey from young basketball dreamer on faraway Victoria Island in British Columbia to two-time MVP with the Suns, hitting all the stops (Santa Clara, Canada’s fairy-tale run at the 2000 Olympics and more) in between and promising a Gretzky-esque legacy if he’d join the Raptors now.

More than one person in the room would later say that Nash was fighting back tears watching it all.

“We all were,” Duffy said. “It was like watching a Hall of Fame video.

“They wanted us to close the deal right then.”

Colangelo’s approach was reminiscent of the full-court press that greeted Nash from Phoenix on the opening day of free agency back in 2004 — when another extra-large traveling party descended upon Dallas to swipe Nash away from Mark Cuban’s Mavericks — with the bonus of knowing that the inspired Gretzky wrinkle took the whole operation to a new level. The difference this time, eight years later, is that Nash simply wasn’t ready to move that quickly. He couldn’t decide that fast knowing that the familiar soil of Toronto, home to Canada’s only NBA franchise, was an address far away from his kids.

A big presentation to Nash about Nash, this was a very interesting move. I guess when you can’t sell winning you sell nostalgia. Let’s leave aside whether Nash was a good fit or not (he wasn’t), give credit to Colangelo for going as all out as he can get in trying to get the man he wanted. As I was reading that piece by Stein and they got to the part about Gretzky’s voice coming on, the first thing that came to mind was cheeeeesy! but hey, you got to play the cards you’re dealt (except BC’s dealing his own cards).

Some talk yesterday from the ESPN article saying that Amir Johnson is the likeliest of amnesty cuts, and that the Raptors intend to play Jose Calderon along with Kyle Lowry:

The Raptors now say they intend to keep Calderon to play him with Kyle Lowry. Using the amnesty clause on Amir Johnson remains a possibility, especially since he would likely be picked up on waivers, which would save the team additional money.

Amnestying Johnson would be a dumb move, his contract is actually reasonable and the guy plays hard, the person that should be amnestied is Linas Kleiza because we’re jammed at the four, and he’s too slow to play the three (and we’re jammed there too with JJ and Fields). But we know that’s not going to happen since Valanciunas needs his national team friend to get him adjusted to North American life. From what I’ve read, Valanciunas is already quite “Americanized” and might not need a dedicated escort. On the other hand, unless the Raptors have someone targeted to spend Kleiza’s money on (assuming he gets picked up off waivers), there’s no reason to cut him either.

Let’s look at the remaining major free agents: O.J. Mayo, Raymond Felton, Courtney Lee, Chris Kaman, Antawn Jamison, Carl Landry, Delonte West, Randy Foye, Lou Williams and J.R. Smith (hopefully this list is accurate, I didn’t check each name again). Of these guys the one that might peak your interest is Carl Landry, the 28-year PF with a nose for the ball and penchant for playing bigger than his 6’9″. If the Raptors can offload Ed Davis and amnesty Kleiza, I’d sign on for a little Landry action. However, he made $8.5M last season so there’s probably not enough money to lure him.

The Raptors have 13 players on the roster (including Fields and Acy), so there are a couple roster spots to fill out. I would think the rotation players are all accounted for and stand as:

Starters: Valanciunas, Bargnani, Fields, DeRozan, Lowry
Second Unit: Gray, A. Johnson, J. Johnson, Ross, Calderon
Fodder: Davis, Acy, Kleiza

This gif sums it up. As with any season of late, excitement is not naturally induced in the Raptors fan but constructed, and looking at the above lineup I can see a fuzzy picture of where this team is headed: a season where if they get a good year out of Bargnani and DeRozan, stay injury-free, get production out of Lowry and Fields, and have Valanciunas do the rookie dirty work, they might enter the last 10 games of the season with a shot at the playoffs.

  • Quirk

    They should sign Landry just so that someone can use the screen name “Carl Landry Fields” here on RR.

    • Carl Landry Fields

       That would be cool.

      • Hsa

        Someone was a step ahead LoL

  • Theswirsky

    “your Lowry piece, the Rockets only had 2 above-average 3-pt shooters in the rotation, plus their centers (Sam & Camby) are complete voids offensively”

    well considering Jose Calderon  had less to work with (noteably in the same areas) how did he have such a successful year? 

    Houston’s offense was ranked 12th in the league, Toronto’s was ranked 29th… yet Jose was able to rank in the top 3 in assists while leading the league in assist to turnover ratio.  Lowry ranked about 20th in assists and about 30th in assist to turnover ratio. (Jose had a better eFG% to boot)

    Not saying Lowry is a bad pg by any means, and I’m hoping that Kyle Calderon will become an effective duo. 

    • Hsa

      Jose is a great boost to the raptors offensive wise, what the raptors need are defensive player, they have Dwayne Casey as a coach he is a defensive coach. An offensive team and a defensive coach don’t work. Kyle is a point guard that can defend last season he set his career high on steals and boards. Casey wants defenders and now gets Jonas and Jose. Can’t wait to see them in action

      • Hsa

        * and now gets Jonas and Lowry….. My bad

  • Nilanka15

    Davis (a lotto pick) as a 3rd stringer, doesn’t seem like the most efficient use of resources. I could see him being moved.

    Same with J.Johnson, as he appears to be the odd SF out compared to Fields and Kleiza.

    One of the 2 remaining roster spots is reserved for our 3rd string point guard (Uzoh, or Holloway?)

    I’d be very surprised if the lineup above is the lineup in September.

    • voy

      yeah, I agree. 

      I dont know if you can split up an entire game between Jonas and Gray, at least at the beginning of the year.  I wouldn’t entirely mind ED at the centre spot when the Raps go small and I also wouldn’t mind him eating into some of Amir’s minutes.  we gotta see what this kid has.  we cant give him 25 minutes one game, 10 minutes the next and 15 minutes the following game.  This being said, maybe another cheap 7fter to rent for a few months till Jonas gets his feet underneath him.

      I’m looking at our 3s and I think we absolutely need to get more creative at this spot.  a sf has gotta be the next priority in terms of planning in order for this team to take the next step.  I’m not sure I like Landry as a player and when you take his salary into consideration I definately dont like him.  JJ is alright, I think.  He’s another player I wouldn’t mind giving more consistent minutes for a prolonged stretch to see what he can bring every night.  I dont think he may ever be a starter on a good team but off the bench I think he brings alot of potentially good-ish things.

      Also, Lowry has got to shoot better than .409 in order to keep defenses from just packing the paint. I think that starting line-up is brutal.  Well, maybe not entirely brutal but alot of it depends on how has Demar’s shooting and handles improved and is Lowry going to perform as advertised and improve upon his shooting.

      I love the idea of giving Ross and Jonas playing time with Jose.

      • wesmantooth

        in terms of DD it also depends on him finally getting consistent whistles this year! i think thats really halting his progress. its got to be confusing for him. im not being a homer here, but this dude gets fouled all the time and rarely gets the whistle! if he got dwade or kobe calls like he should, because hes going to the rim in the same way which is suppose to be his strength! the other things would naturally follow like it did with those guys ie handles and jumper. but hes had to kind of work backwards with his development.. 
        i obviously dont think hes as good as those guys but he should really be averaging aprox 3 more points per game

        • Copywryter

          There’s some truth to the foul thing, but Kobe and Dwade are tremendous finishers and DeRozan is not. That’s what really hurts him re: getting calls. It’s not really fair but at least it’s unfair across the league. 

      • Copywryter

        I’m pretty sure we’ve seen what ED is going to give us. He had his minutes reduced by Casey because his defensive effort level fluctuated and that’s really the knock on this kid, who doesn’t otherwise have much of an offensive game. He’s sulky. You could see it when we sent him down before his rookie season. It’s surprising really, because the children of ex-pros typically work hard. Maybe that’s changing as a new generation comes up.

        JJ is your standard NBA fringe player. Excellent athlete who gives you some flash, plays defence and does some of the little things, but never consistently enough or at a high enough level to warrant minutes or a starter’s job. Players like him who figure it out become journeymen. Those that don’t…don’t. IMO he was buried on Chicago’s bench for a reason. 

        • j bean

          I still like JJ more than Kleiza based on their play last year. He’s better defensively and it’s almost a toss up offensively with JJ showing signs of improvement. Is Kleiza really an untouchable because he can speak Lithuanian? 

          • Nilanka15

            His knee’s had another year to heal.  Maybe it was holding him back last season.

          • Copywryter

            I was thinking about the merits of JJ vs. Kleiza as our starting 3 and suddenly felt a little sick.  

          • Brian B

             I’m with copywryter . If this is the choice, we better buy our OKC paraphernalia early. Neither deserves to be a starter, esp at the three – in the shifting landscape, each is more likely a “small 4”. Ooops, did I just advocate for Fields as the starter? Oh noooooooooooooo

          • CJT

            Kleiza did have some consistency issue last year without doubt, but his play in the Olympic qualifier has been very encouraging.  His knee looks much better.

            • Destro

              PPl always foolishly get sucked in by play in qualifiers and olympics smh…

              he played well before he signed with Toronto too and ?

              • p00ka

                “he played well before he signed with Toronto too and ?”……………………..

                ( a little help for selective memory)… injured his knee in training camp, tried to play through it before everyone discovered it was messed up (think it affected his play?) and he needed surgery, significant enough to require a year of recovery.

              • CJT

                And I’m happy to see him averaging 25 points a game in the qualifier, that’s all. 

        • FLUXLAND

          You may be right in saying we’ve seen what Ed is going to give US – The Raps. And his play may be a result of said sulking, but I’m not ready to think this is all the kid has to offer. As you said, ex pro child, so he’s likely following the old man’s orders regarding effort and preventing injury. He’s a little thin for my liking, but he’s long and a lefty..I wouldn’t place him in the rejected bin just yet. Last year he (besides Old Man JM) was the only one to show a propensity and understanding of rebounding.

          JJ is also somewhat of an enigma, but not really. He was buried in CHI in part due to the players in front of him in rotation, but he also free styled a little too often when on the floor, for any coache’s liking. His problem seem to be thinking he’s far better skill wise than he actually is, probably due to relying on his athleticism for a long time. Not to take away his development over the years, it has grown,  but coming here was not ideal for it either. His overall attitude is suspect as well, the idiotic smirking over a lame dunk from a broken down play or in transition when your team is down by 15, the dumb haircuts, the tongue flashing, the late season incident, all indicative of needing some maturity and understanding his role in the NBA.  Agreed, typical player that fools fans due to potential, clearly not a starter in any way.

          • CJT

            Well said.  Pretty accurate assessment.

  • Seeten

    What happened with Machado? He was undrafted last I heard, might be worth a look.

    • Nilanka15

      He’d definitely be worth a look.  But he’s already playing for Houston’s summer league team. 

      But he seems too good a player to be a 3rd stringer though.  A player with his passing abilities would ideally have a large enough role to learn the NBA game quickly.

      If Calderon isn’t retained, then I’d be all for Machado as our primary backup PG.

      • c_bcm

        You’re nuts! You would rather have an untested rookie as the primary backup behind a petulant starter? Not good. You need a calming and consistent force behind Lowry to keep him in check and to provide a good environment for Ross and Val to develop. Jose is ideal for this job. 

        • Nilanka15

          If your goal is to win now, sure.  But Machado presents much more promise when looking at the future.

          BTW, all rookies are “untested”.  Since when is that justification to not play them???

          • c_bcm

            Of course all rookies are untested. So you want 3 rookies on the team with 2 (Val and Machado) having a major influence on the teams success,and one of those (Machado) influencing the development of the team. Not to mention Ross and Acy. 4 rookies on a 15 man roster will never happen.

            • Nilanka15

              Acy is a fringe player at the moment. 

              But regardless, I don’t have a problem with 4 rookies on the team.  I’m less concerned about winning now, and more concerned about winning in the future.  And Machado is a talented player.  I’m not going to pass him up because we’ve already got Calderon on an expiring contract.

          • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

            It just hit me that BC has been here 6 seasons and we haven’t developed a young pg in all that time………..wow.

            • Nilanka15

              We can’t even give him credit for Calderon since that was Babcock’s only good move.

            • j bean

              Yet we still hear the talk of how Jose will mentor the young guys.

        • j bean

          Can’t stand Calderone as a starter, but as a backup he’ll be fine if he accepts the role. 

      • Cdhall

        because he is playing for houston——does that mean no other team can sign him?

        • Nilanka15

          That’s a good question.  I read somewhere that following the draft, a lot of teams reached out to Machado, including Houston and Toronto, to join their respective summer league teams.  He chose Houston because he believes they were the best fit, but I’m not sure if that comes with any form of commitment/guarantee. 

          My guess is that if he’s not inked to a deal, he’s up for grabs (at some point).

          • Bendit

            I believe that anyone not chosen in the draft are free agents. Him joining the Houston summer team while putting them atop the pecking order in cajoling rights to sign with them, he can however choose to go to the highest bidder or, say, a commitment to be the 1st backup.  

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        Doesn’t matter who Machado plays for in Summer League any team can sign him.

        I like Machado- who I think is better than #13 draft pick Kendall Marshall, alot as well. 

        Raptors have PG Bobby Brown (who I thought should have been the 3rd roster pg last season) on their summer league roster again.

        It makes no sense to retain Calderon as a 10 million dollar back up pg either trade him or amnesty him (July 11-17) and go get a quality starting SF……..with that 10 million salary spot…….

        JBayless should have been kept as the primary back up pg with an opportunity to win the starting job in my mind but I’m not running the Rap’s.

        • voy

          calderon’s 10 million dollar contract this year is actually probably a positive as the $$ comes off the books next year.

          the very fact that jose’s contract is expiring will make him an attractive-ish asset. 

          the decision you have to make here is trade jose vs offering him something like 5 mill a year.

          • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

            You sound alot like BC…….

            • ghost

              You sound alot like a jackass….

            • voy

              there is no way you can see 10 mill coming off the books next year as a negative.  I’m not defending the previous years on the contract.  but 10 mill of spending money next year, is 10 mill of spending money. 

              • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

                This isn’t a BC press conference who cares if Jose contract comes off the books next season this season he is a 10 million dollar back up and the Rap’s still need a starting SF….do the full math not the half.

                BC will most likely fuck up that cap space just like he did this off season’s……overpaying for questionable talent….

                • Ihatehaters

                  Who cares if Jose’s contract comes off the books? How about Raptors fans. It either: (1) frees up cash that the team can use to pursue a top free agent; or (2) can be used as trade bait to a team looking to do the same (and return an asset).

                  Wait… why am I even responding to you? I forgot all you do is troll on this board, and spew moronic ideas/hip-hop terms from the 90s.

                  :(

                • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

                  Take a piece not the whole of the sentence and run with it….wow..lmfao

    • Bendit

      I believe he is on the Rockets summer league team.

  • Destro

    I cant believe Brook Lopez is about to get a max contract,im starting to hate the NBA for this….

    • CJT

      Ditto.  It is getting ridiculous.

  • Brian B

    Still think that looks like a horrible roster, not a competitive team.
     Rushing JV to start is bad move, like AB & DD before him. Hope he doesn’t drown, but where’s the support if he does?
     DD is not an improvement on DD on the wing.
     Still not convinced about Fields, esp at the 3.How will he guard Wallace, Pierce, Lebron, Carmelo… ???
     Other than Jose, no second unit to speak of.

  • Dc

    Playoffs??? (Jim mora voice) kool aid much? Thank god I kinda hope were done making moves cuz if colangelo goes Into the season this will be the lineup to get this team to sneak into the 8th seed he will likely get fired *fingers crossed*

    • Tdot

      If typing proper sentences was the equivalent of making the playoffs, you would have been fired a long time ago.

      • Dc

        If telling a joke was the equivalent of winning a basketball game ud be 0- 82

        • JP

          Why couldn’t they make the playoffs???  the East is weak and they have enough talent to make it….Pacers, Bulls, Nets, Heat, Celts…..those are you’re main teams…there’s still 3 spots left…maybe 76ers but they got worse, orlando is about to become really bad….NY is just dysfunctional…they have a good shot

          • Destro

            You think the Raptors are on par with the Knicks ?
            Look at the two rosters and get back to me…

            • CJT

              He didn’t say on par, he said they were dysfunctional, which I don’t think you can argue with.  to have that much elite level talent and struggle like they do to win games has to point to some internal issues doesn’t it?

          • Nilanka15

            Basically everything needs to go right for us to have a legit shot at the playoffs.  Lowry has to play at the level he showed prior to his injury.  Bargnani has to be the man he was for 13 games last season.  Valanciunas need to be contributing 25+ minutes per night.  Calderon has to be OK with his backup role in a contract year.  DeRozan needs to show he’s a legit starter, Fields needs to resort back to his rookie numbers, everyone needs to remain healthy, Casey needs to show significant improvement on the offensive side, and with 5 new faces (and counting), chemistry needs to develop.

            Based on talent alone, it’s hard to say with any certainty that we’re head and shoulders better than Philly, Milwaukee, Washington, or Cleveland.  And depending on what Orlando gets back for Dwight, they might be in the mix too.  There could very realistically be 5 teams battling for the final 2 playoff spots.

            • pahpa roll

              listen to Wolf B. nilanka from CNN the sky is falling

          • Copywryter

            No, they don’t. 

          • B-rocula

            The Knicks will most likley be a top 4 team in the east this year. I would bank on that they had a bad season last year yea , but they had a short training camp , mad coaching problems with Dantonis system , no real point guard till linsanity started , and Injury issues . Considering the off season moves they made , and having a defensive minded coach I could see them making a serious playoff run this year . I don’t know why everyone on this site seems to write them off.

            • Nilanka15

              Because we still don’t know if Lin and Melo can co-exist.

            • Bendit

              Written like a wistful and forlorn Knicks fan. Short training camp, injuries…didnt everyone & many have the same? Playoff run? Sure but what happens when they get there? They are a old team (the Camby signing is a joke) and have become the team Isaih built before Walsh corrected it. Oh wait…Isaih is back in Dolan’s offices isnt he?

              • B-rocula

                Actually I’m not even a NY fan just pointing out the obvious , they have a much better team then us. The short training camp was worse for the Knicks because the majority of the team was new to the system and each other. Teams like the Celtics and Spurs that have had a core together for a long time would obviously be less affected. As for Camby do u know who there back up center was last year? … That’s an improvement. And no they are not a “old team”

  • Bendit

    Playing Jose with Lowry? Not likely. This is “playing hard to get” and dampen some gms’ wet dreams of getting an amnestied Jose on the cheap. 

    • Bendit

      Pardon me…the above was not meant as a reply.

  • guest

    With every new free agent signing the Landry Fields signing seems more and more absurd.  So now the team has Lowry and Calderon and nothing will change. The Raptors still have a bunch of players who can not create their own shot.  I give Lowry about 8 weeks and then his teammates who can’t create their own shot are going to start talking about how great it is to have Calderon playing the point and the pg controversy continues.  That is how Jose has managed to keep his starting job in Toronto for so long. You can not have a scoring pg starting on a team with a bunch of guys who all need a facilitator to be successful.  I hope Ross is the shooter they claim he is, that might help. Maybe Derozen for OJ Mayo but this group that they have now is not a playoff team, not even close.

    • Copywryter

      Agreed. Anything other than a hot start from Lowry is going to create a controversy…and then we’re going to get the same angry guy that Houston had. 

      Jose is an excellent second unit pg and he keeps his job because he plays with mostly second unit talent who as you point out typically can’t create their own shot. Most nba’ers can’t though. 

      • guest

        “Most nba’ers can’t though. ” Teams that make strong runs in the playoffs do.

        • Copywryter

          What is this “playoffs” that you speak of?

      • Nilanka15

        Well, we still don’t know for sure if Calderon will remain here this season.  Depending on who Lowry’s backup is, there may not be a controversy even if Lowry does take some time to adjust to his new surroundings.

    • Destro

      How many times do you hear teammates talking about how great it is to be play with Jose ? I have never heard it…The notion is wrong about the kind of PG you need,i wouldnt say this team is blessed with top tier shooters that need a certain anything…we just need skilled players period…

      I saw many many games over the last two seasons where having a guy like Lowry would be a huge benefit to this team…
      How many times did this team go soft and wither in 4th quarters and couldnt score ? Nobody could shoot or get to the basket or make any plays when we needed it ? I saw it too many times THIS kid will be able to score when dudes are standing around….This team needs another scorer as much as they need anything a guy who can get HIS andcreate havoc and thats what Lowry can bring… 

      • Copywryter

        I hope you’re right, but remember that he’s going from a team with at least one outside threat to a team without, which means more bodies to meet him in the paint and a defence that’s more focused on stopping him. 

        Secondly, Lowry has not been the most durable guy. Not bad, but not great. This kid may not have a play style that’s amenable to a starter’s role. 

        Like I said, I hope you’re right, but my expectations are not super-high. 

        • CJT

          ab is an outside threat.

          • Copywryter

            Fiction. AB shot 0.296 from 3 last year.

            • Bendit

              No lift…calf problems… :)

            • Sukhpinder

              and he’s shooting 0.365 from 3 for his career.

              • Copywryter

                A number that would put him 70th in the NBA in 2012. So we don’t have an outside threat. 

                Sheesh. Honkers.

                • p00ka

                  Stat only whores are mindless numbers readers, but why not play along now and then.

                  All one needs to do is watch how teams focus on him to know that 30 teams consider him an outside threat, but you know better than all them because of numbers only, right?

                  Anyway, using your logic, that 70th (@.365) would put him in top 15% in the league,
                  – on par with Dirk, Pierce
                  – within 2.5% of such players as Nash, Harden, Durant, Granger
                  – ahead of such players as Kobe, Melo, Gay.

                  Those players’ teams don’t have an outside threat either?

                • Copywryter

                  I reply to stats with a stat and I’m a whore? Then I guess your nonsense reply to a comment about AB makes you a fellatio artist with a specialization in Italians.

                  Do you know what an outside threat is? It’s a spot up shooter who can make the three consistently OR a scorer who’s a very good 3-point shooter. It’s not simply a guy who can score. 

                  And how the the hell did you get top 15%? It’s clear that math isn’t your friend. Only 12 players dress per game and really you can’t include most of the benchwarmers or 10-day contracts. At best he’s middle of the pack. If you think today’s Kobe or (older) Dirk or Nash are considered outside threats you’re an idiot who needs to watch games that don’t feature plastic dinosaur mascots. Also, way to pick downside career guys to justify your point.

                  If I’m an opposing coach I definitely want Melo, Kobe and and Dirk taking threes. Pierce is a MUCH better outside shooter than AB but I wouldn’t call him a threat either. And no, L.A. didn’t have a consistent outside threat last year. Neither did Memphis. 27th and 25th in the league. Both teams play inside. The threat for Dallas is Jason Terry with a secondary shooter in Jason Kidd. They were still 20th. Damn honking fucktard.

                • p00ka

                  LOL, another angry tribal bitcher (or an old one under a different tag?).

                  You’re the one throwing out bare stats, with no qualifiers, no accounting for team performance or any factors. 70/480 = 14.58%. Being a bare stats
                  guy (your post as example) I’d think that should be right up your alley,
                  but apparently, only your selection of bare stats are valid, with
                  exclusions you define. I see.

                  I have no idea where you’re going with bringing up “team” 3 pt shooting, but that’s not the issue you raised and I responded to.

                  You say Nash isn’t a 3 pt threat with a .390 3P%? LMFAO, you lose all credibility with that one, child.

                  But you say “The threat for Dallas is Jason Terry”, with a .378 3P%,
                  1.3% better % than the .365, and he has a 1.5% better career 3P% than AB.
                  WOW, big difference!!!

                  Perhaps you should take that energy you transfer to anger, and beat off. It might bring some pleasure to your life.

                • Joran

                  You need to get a life away from the interent friend you’re becoming delusional.

                • Sukhpinder

                  point is, would you leave him wide open around the 3 point area like you would a Rondo or much of the big men out there for that matter?

                  no, you wouldn’t, because he’s a threat, not a major threat, but enough to demand some cover.

                  and you just picked 1 year (last season) in what was a down year, actually, the lowest 3-point % of his career. In 08-09, he shot .409, and has shot no lower than .345, until, oddly enough, an injury plagued 2011-2012 season.

                  Dirk and j-rich rank 60th and 61st place respectively in 3 point shooting, would we not consider them outside threats? how about anthony morrow, who is know for being a 3 point threat, he’s ranked 56th, and actually tied with jose calderon who last season was ranked ahead of dirk, j-rich, channing frye, and oj mayo, all considered by many to be outside threats.

                  I suggest next time that you do some research before you throw around that “honkers” term of yours, because you were just taken to school, idiot.

                • Copywryter

                  So let me get this straight, we’re having a conversation about ‘legitimate outside threats’ that includes:

                  Anthony Morrow

                  Jason Richardson

                  Jose Calderon

                  OJ Mayo

                  Channing Frye.

                  You’re a fool.

                  No, Dirk is not an outside threat you retard and besides he’s not ever in the same conversation as AB, but bringing it up is a sure sign of a honker. 
                  ‘Doing research’ is not picking out numbers you like. I gave his career average too. You want to pick his best year go ahead — it was 5 seasons ago – but don’t slag me for giving his most recent season.

                  Bargs is not a genuine outside threat. He can hit them, sure, but lots of players can hit them and many of them hit them much more often.

                  He’s about average. If you need him to be your Bette Middler that’s ok. I understand.

                • Sukhpinder

                  no, fool, I am doing it for comparison’s sake. many would consider those names outside threats, guys you dont want to leave open on the 3 point line? am I right? or would your brilliant coaching strategy leave them wide open? tell me this, you’re saying that you would give these guys the wide open 3 point look all day? just treat them like rondo and play off of them from deep? thats what I thought idiot.

                  .372, .381, .375, .390, those are the career 3p% of all those aforementioned players you listed. and all of those percentages are well above the league average. these guys are above average 3-point shooters.

                  i’m not comparing bargnanis play to dirks at all you dolt, they should not be in the same sentence. I am just going over what you consider to be an outside threat, and you mouthed off before you did any research and you made yourself look stupid than you are, resorting to the fanboy taunt when you know you are losing. 

                  and don’t change your words now to “legitimate threat”, someone is considered a 3 point threat when they have an above average chance of knocking it down from deep, and these are guys that you dont want to be left open.

        • rus

           Lowry is the outside threat

          • CJT

            and ross was brought in for his shooting as well. 

      • Raptorboy

         There’s no doubt that Amir loves playing with Jose. They have great chemistry together. JV will love it too!

        • Destro

          How do you know he loves playing with Jose ? lol

          HE loves the fact he gets paid 7 mil a season to come off the bench and foul ppl….

      • rus

        His shooting percentage was so low(.406) at first I disagreed  but then I looked it up with Clutch points…

        http://www.82games.com/1112/CSORT11.HTM

        he ranked 37th in the league in clutch points in the 4th. 10th best pg

        interesting was that his fg % was atrocious at .357 but his 3p % was .462 and he hit 100% of his fts, which is quite impressive

        also he’s been steadily improving every year. let’s hope that continues

  • Lorenzo

    Don’t amnesty Kleiza. He’s easily the most likable player on the team and he looks like a lumberjack-wolf hybrid. That’s reason enough on a half-ass team like ours.

    Plus we are in serious need of a bench scorer, Fields? Amir? Ed? Bayless and Barbosa are gone and I’m assuming Ross will be a starter for most of the season.

    • Nilanka15

      I’d be pleasantly surprised if Ross plays well enough to supplant either DeRozan or Fields in the starting lineup.

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        TRoss >> Fields & DD

        Just wait and see……..

        • sleepz

          Very possible and disapointingly enough not that hard to envision.

          Significantly better shooter than Derozan and much better athlete than Fields.

        • Lorenzo

          Even if he is (which I hope he is), that’s not saying much for a #8 pick… but then again it was a reach.

          • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

            Why is this bitch still responding to my posts- I got another forum Stan (Eminem voice)?lmfao

            • Lorenzo

              I’m sorry I didn’t know this wasn’t a comment board where people share their opinions. Huh, all this time…

              Come on sonny, you’re obviously doing this for the attention, and guess what you’re getting it!! Insults are the sincerest form of flattery :)

    • Destro

      How do YOU know hes the most likeable ? and he looks like a dude who gets his haircut by a chick named Bubbles…Thats reason enough to cut his ass and send him back to europe in the causcus mountains… 

      • Al_Oliver

        what the hell does most likable have to do with our lineup? this is a basketball team (allegedly), not a high school popularity contest

        • Destro

          read above me…

      • Lorenzo

        Okay, not sure how I’m supposed to reply to this since you’re obviously trolling but I’ll give it a shot.

        1) That’s your opinion

        2) Almost every single friend that’s a Raptor fan I know has Kleiza as their favorite player, that’s saying enough

        3) Bubbles? are you a fuck boy? where do you get this shit? Back to Brokeback Mountain with you

        4) “causcus mountains” smh…

        5) Close your legs son, there’s a pungent smell emitting from your ass

        • Destro

          Why is whenever you TRY to be funny it fails miserably….

          (2 is about as irrelevant a point as can be made…who cares about you and ur friends fav players….raptor fans you know i would bet are like you,they are friends of certain players on the team as long as they are raptors…. 

          • Lorenzo

            How am I trying to be funny? I said it exactly how it is.

            Stfu what do you know about me? WHat do you know about anything? You dont even have a fucking opinion, just disagreeing with everything to try to act like your “going against the grain” as you put it. My opinions are as unbiased as they can be, the fuck you know…

        • Copywryter

          For what it’s worth I don’t like Kleiza for the same reason I don’t like JJ. That smugness rubs me the wrong way. Hockey thing I guess.

    • Copywryter

      I don’t like him when he jacks up shots in hero-ball mode.

      • Lorenzo

        Lol, a sacrifice we must make

    • Raptorboy

       agreed. Kleiza brings alot of toughness to the team as well. He doesn’t back down from anybody!

      • Destro

        LOL !

    • cdub

      I wouldn’t amnesty him either.  His contract is extremely reasonable and I think he is a better player than most give him cred for.  Let’s remember he was coming off MF surgery last year.    Amir is a better option simply because his has the largest contract outside Bargs in a crowded PF situation.   If they amnesty anyone it’s going to be for something big so getting the most money off the books should be top priority.

      • Lorenzo

        Exactly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/blake.rose Blake Rose

    is the ‘Jarrett’ in your ‘Jarrett Bayless’ intentional? If so, good on ya! Two birds with one stone! Otherwise, its Jerryd.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Funny, all these f/a pgs running around this off season and BC has to surrender a future 1st round pick for one- one that was on his way out of Houston anyways because of his beef with McHale.

    The Fields signing looks more absurd everyday and then some people are projecting him into the starting line-up as a SF……

    BC got played out in the Nash scenario just like in the CB scenario…..not to even mention the attempted signing of Matt Barnes……

    Atlantic keeps on getting stronger this off season- NY, NJ, BOS, PHI while the Raptors keep on getting BC’d…….

    BC gets significant cap space that he has been pr spinning the past 2 years and fucks it up once again- as is……….

    But at least he tried to sign SNash (who wasn’t coming to the TDot in the 1st place) a pg that goes against the whole defense first mentality that BC pumps up in the media in the Casey era.

    Btw- nice pr fluff piece from Stein on Nash.

    • Ihatehaters

      You’ve already said this.

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        And your mom already swallowed- and?lol

        • CJT

          your mom should have swallowed.

          • Destro

            Dogg dont be a hypocrite…

  • Jeffrey Thompson

    I hope the Raptors do not sign Landry.  That guy’s garbage.  He had one phenomenal year two seasons ago and then disappeared.  He was a complete bust in New Orleans after they signed him to a one year extension at 9$ million.  I am kind of on the fence of the Raptors getting rid of Amir because he does have a reasonable contract and he has some trade value too.  

    In the case of Landry Fields, I don’t really think that he is that great.  On any other team he would just a a rotation player off the bench.  He’s certainly not starter material.  In my opinion, both James Johnson and Linus Kleiza are FAR better than he is in terms of skills, ability and overall production.  All of this points to any very long season for Raptors fans.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    I wonder why BC didn’t draft Robert Sacre?

    BC wants to sign Canadians but won’t draft them or have them on his roster- until Jamal Magloire this past lock out season.

    BC seemingly doesn’t prioritize bringing in NBA level Canadian talent when given the chance- correct me if I’m wrong?

    • TOraps

      And what is so good about Rob Sacre? Not a great rebounder, not that explosive or athletic and lacks length. He’s not NBA level Canadian talent.

      And besides, if BC signed Sacre you’d call it a PR spin, so you’d bitch either way.

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        He’s a legit 6’11 3/4 in shoes plus very mobile (pick ‘n roll guarding) & active with plenty of upside left in his game.

        Heck he’s better than Alabi……..

        I advocated BC selecting Sacre (&/or SF Kris Joseph) with their 2nd second round pick on this site weeks ago….get a clue Sherlock.
         
        I think he will do well in LA with Nash and playing behind Gasol/Bynum.

        How are you going to tell me what I would say? Wow..

        Fyi I don’t bitch your mom & grandmother bitch…bitch… 

         

        • TOraps

          “He’s better than Alabi”

          And that is why u wanna draft him lmao? Anyone and everyone is better than Alabi, at least Alabi is taller than him and has a much longer wingspan + less than half his body fat %age. 

          Sacre is only 9 months younger than Alabi, what upside does he have lmao?

          I also remember u saying that the Raps should make a play for Cory Joseph—- D-League do u know me??

          We shouldnt be signing players just because they’re Canadian, who gives a fuck where they’re from you fanboy.

          Ya you bitch a lot, more than my grandmama or mama. 100X more.

          • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

            Hope that makes you feel better…………….ain’t nothing changed but the weather……lol

            • TOraps

              Ain’t nothing changed but your lame ass responses cop outs.

              Tony Wroten jr, Rob Sacre, Kris Joseph, Drummond, etc. we’ll see soon enough about this eye for talent u apparently have buddy.

              and when they all turn out to be busts, your response will be “let you tell it lmao” ….time will tell.

              • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

                Just think if you cared about what BC said as much as you apparently do me- I’m so heavy on your mind, all the time…lol

                • TOraps

                  Ya right you wish. BC is heavy on your mind if anything, u talk about him in every single 1 of your posts lmao

                • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

                  Every single one of my posts?

                  RR, where TOraps self serving lies become truth……to himself….

    • Destro

      I dont think Sacre sticks in the NBA beyond his rookie contract…All hes really got is size…and IMO he didnt even use it to his advantage in a weak conference…

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        He may be the last big on the bench this season but he will have a chance to grow exponentially.

        I think that going up against Bynum & Gasol in practice plus with his buddy SNash on the roster to keep him even keel he’ll turn into a journeyman type NBA big man at worst…..time will tell.

      • Lorenzo

        Stop talking to yourself

        • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

          Wow, I suggest that you stop living on the internet as your sense of reality is seriously impaired….lmfao at u & your momma 2…

          • Lorenzo

            Says the guy who posts the same shit every half hour.

            Personal attacks are a sign of frustration my dood

            • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

              You really like jockin’ my posts and making self serving insinuations, huh?lmfao at u & ur momma 2 for making u

              • Lorenzo

                Am I lying??? lmfao

  • mountio

    ESPNSteinLine Marc SteinRockets’ position strengthened, sources say, by fact no team has yet offered Magic better pick than first-rounder via Toronto in Lowry trade

    Are we still convinced our pick doesnt have much value?

    • Arsenalist

      Given BC’s drafting record, I’d rather give that pick away for a sure thing than rely on him drafting a player and then waiting for him to develop.  How many picks do you really need? We’ve got enough young guys.

      • Theswirsky

        yeah we have young guys… but thats all they are is young.

        What this team lack is star calibre young guys, which we are only getting in the draft

        • Rob

          That’s why he said “Given BC’s drafting record.”

          Which hasn’t netted us any star calibre young guys since he’s been here.

          • Theswirsky

            I agree, and thats one of the reasons he should be replaced.

            • Rob

              Yep.

          • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

            Tell that to the AB fan boys…..lol

        • mountio

          agreed. Again .. Im not saying we made a bad deal .. I like Lowry .. but lets not kid ourselves into thinking the pick we gave up isnt valuable .

          • Theswirsky

            yep it wasn’t a cheap price

            • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

              Especially for a pg with 2 feet out of Houston already….BC got scammed again….

    • Rob

      I think it still has value, but Stein is just comparing it to the other picks out there offered to the Magic, which are, most likely, late 1st rounders.

      The Nets, I believe, offered 2 future 1st round picks, which is practically nothing considering they’ll be a powerhouse with Dwight and well out of the lottery, and the Clips offered a protected 1st rounder as well I believe, as part of the rumored 4-team deal. IMO, the Magic would be getting ripped off to do a deal with the Nets with Brook Lopez as the centerpiece. 

      The Rockets seem to be loaded with assets, can offer rights to rookies, + the pick they got for Lowry, which could end up being very good.

      If you’re going to work out a deal with picks, espec. with the most dominating big man in the league atm, best do it with a perennial lottery team, or a team with high-ceiling, young players, better yet, both.

      • mountio

        true .. it is being compared to mostly late first rounders. Point is though .. is this pick is the one that gets the deal done and gets Houston Bynum (obviously along with their other assets .. but none the less this is a key part) .. its gotta be pretty valuable ..

        • Rob

          Totally agree, it is valuable but its a risk you take to get a pretty good young starting PG. It can work out a few different ways, at least its protected in the top 4, I believe, for the first 2 years, and lets be honest, superstar talent, the kind this team needs, is mostly found in the top 3, we don’t need any more mid-round talent that produces good but not great players. It has the potential to backfire badly, or work out great, so we’ll see. 

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      BC traded away a pick that could potentially net DHoward for another team while UFA pg’s are running around like chickens with their heads cut off.smh

      Not to mention the many restricted f/a pgs…..

      The failed CB trade has come back to haunt us big time as BC couldn’t get shit in return for CB then bad mouthed CB all the way unto this season- CB TPE do you know me?

      BC gets the Gas Face for helping out other teams more than his own..

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/TX6K37C7WMUKJKW6V6T3SLIQVA Van

         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEEWsFoyJiI

        • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

          That championship champaign not BC’s piss & shit that many Raptors fans call water & steak…..

          CB is a NBA champion and looknig to get more (Miami signed RAllen & RLewis so far)- let the haters hate…..

          • Destro

            Shard is a fuckn bum am i supposed to be jealous of that signing ?

            • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

              At the vet minimum- yes….Fields 3y 19m……

              All he has to do is come in the game and spread the floor with his shooting as LBJ, Wade and company will be drawing double teams and kicking the ball out on drives plus RLewis is a legit 6’10 in shoes and only 32 years old.

              I followed him closely in Seattle and if he can get back that jump shooting consistency he will be really effective in Miami.

              • Lorenzo

                Haha that’s cute, you typing comments to yourself. Wow, I’m impressed, this time your even arguing with yourself

                • Joran

                  You & p00ka should both go meet some real people before you become too delusioned, friend.

                • Lorenzo

                  Huh? Pick a tag man and stick with it FFS…

                • Rob

                  Click his avatar, scroll down through his history, and it’ll become quite clear who he really is.

                • Lorenzo

                  Thanks man I didn’t even know this. But why is everyone’s name different when I click it? including mine…?

    • p00ka

      It had value for the Raptors.  They got Lowry. Do you feel he’s not “much value”?

      As for the rumours from “sources” goes, we don’t know how significant or relevant  these anonymous sources are, nor how “strengthened” the Rockets’ position is through it, so impossible to put any value on it other than what the pick is, which is way up in the air. Other than that, I think this means nothing as I highly doubt the Rockets will get Howard, who is not looking to hide away in Houston by himself while super teams are gathering elsewhere..

      • mountio

        My only point .. which Ive been saying since we made the deal . is lets not talk ourselves into us “stealing Lowry away” for “next to nothing”. I like the trade on balance, mostly because Lowry has a great contract .. but first rounders (especially from a team that hasnt showed an ability to make the playoffs consistently) are very very valuable in this league ..

        • Destro

          Nobody is saying its a steal but its a reasonable risk as long as he does a few more things with the roster….We needed a starting PG we got one….if the team is a playoff team next year then nothing is lost…

          • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

            With so many UFA pgs this off season why trade a Lottery pick for one?

            Not to mention all the RFA pgs……

            BC loves to give away Lottery picks…….in his deals…

            This team isn’t even top 4 in the Atlantic:

            BOS
            NJ
            NY
            PHI
            TO

             as is, and that won’t make the playoffs in the East.

    • Destro

      IM ok with the pick for now,but in case were a lotto team next year it would just be BC helping another team out….MIami now Orlando..hes a giver

  • FAQ

    “….if they get a good year out of Bargnani and DeRozan, stay injury-free,
    get production out of Lowry and Fields, and have Valanciunas do the
    rookie dirty work, they might enter the last 10 games of the season with
    a shot at the playoffs”

    HOW CAN YOU PEDDLE THIS KIND OF SHIT WITH THIS RAPTOR PICKUP TEAM ROSTER?

    ARE YOU TOTALLY DELUDED… OR ARE YOU JUST TRYING TO WOO THE TRIBAL HONKING FANS WITH RR FORUM HOPE??!!!

    • p00ka

      So says the chief tribal whine-bitch,,,,,,, for the 1001st time. Is your life so dismal that you gain some sort of relief from attacking ppl who seek hope in their team, and view the sport as entertainment and a release from their own troubles?

      I hear you have serious bball background. Did you fail so badly to achieve your goals that your damaged ego needs to bring others down? You never contribute anything others than call those that don’t agree with you, tribal honkers. You don’t like the team, management, fans…… Why even follow the team if it’s all so miserable to you? Because you can come here and boost your ego by calling ppl names?

  • ad

    Two Questions:
    1) Why would amnestying amir johnson be considered a bad move? Hes has no offensive game and is completely overpayed for his production. Hes essentially a 4th big. If he was any good, the team wouldnt be so shitty.
    2) Why do most people think BC is done retooling this joke of a roster? Yeah, they can fight for eigth if half of the eastern conferences top 2 players on each team have season ending injuries. I’d be VERY surprised if calderon starts the season with the team. Same with BOTH amir and ed davis. I wouldnt even be surprised to see derozan get moved.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    ESPNSteinLine Marc SteinNew free-agent development: G Jerryd Bayless has reached an agreement to sign with Memphis. Deal on course to be finalized later Wednesday

    • Nilanka15

      Nooooooooo!!!!  Bayless was awesome!!!  The next Chauncy Billups!!!!

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    It’s signing day!!!

    Steve Nash was the 1st official announced NBA signing by LA….

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Philly gets another player:

    OAKLAND, Calif. — Dorell Wright is getting another chance to start over and leaving behind another team that has more salary cap space in his absence.
    The Golden State Warriors agreed Tuesday to trade Wright to the Philadelphia 76ers for the rights to a player currently in Europe, a person familiar with the decision said.

    The person, who spoke on condition of anonymity because teams can’t announce any trades until the free agency moratorium ends Wednesday, said Golden State would receive Edin Bavcic of Bosnia and Herzegovina in return. The 76ers acquired Bavcic’s rights in a trade with Toronto in 2006.The 6-foot-9 Wright is entering the final season of his three-year, $11.4 million contract — coincidentally negotiated by Warriors general manager Bob Myers, who is Wright’s former agent.

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      With BC’s help?

      • TOraps

        Lol stfu, you never even knew who “Edin Bavic” was before this. He’s a nobody, like you, (it said the Warriors have no plans to bring him to the U.S) this was strictly a salary-shredding measure by G-State, 

        Also in the article, it says “Wright was expected to have more value, but the new collective bargaining agreement has some teams being extra cautious about taking on salaries. Some demanded the Warriors include a future draft pick as compensation for taking on Wright’s contract.”

        Youre trying everything just stop lmao… “with BC’s help”

      • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

        Wow this keeps on getting better BC helping out many teams other than the Rap’s……..good to see Jack get out of NO…

        Looks like BC did trade Bavcic: http://raptorsrepublic.com/2011/07/10/reviewing-bryan-colangelos-trades-part-i/

        ESPNSteinLine Marc SteinWarriors to get Jarrett Jack & Hornets only have to take back draft rights to Edin Bavcic (originally Philly-bound) to complete the trade.BC better hope that NY matches Fields…….

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    BC just let Bayless (an asset) walk away for nothing- so why was Bosa traded away again?

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      ESPNSteinLine Marc SteinRT BallinWithBryan: Chris Herrington of Memphis Flyer reports Jerryd Bayless’ two-year deal has Year 1 salary of $3.1M & option for Year 2

  • Rob

    few Fields-related tweets:

    @fisolanydn:disqus ……..The Knicks don’t really care about the paying the luxury tax which is why you can see them matching the offer for Landry Fields.
    @wojyahoonba:disqus ………Agree with @FisolaNYDN and absolutely do not rule out Knicks matching Landry Fields offer sheet. They have a 3-year window to win now.Highly doubt it, but fingers crossed they match….

    • sleepz

      That would be a huge benefit to the Raps.

      That deal he signed is fat and bloated and while he is a decent bench player he is not worth $19 mil over 3 years.

      Let the Knicks overpay to keep him.

    • mountio

      Holy shit! Thats the best news Ive heard in days. Whether or not Fields turns out OK (which I think is entirely possible .. ) this is exactly the type of contract that we do not want to be signing .. its Amir part 2 only a little worse money wise – we need to spend our money on guys that at least have a chance to be difference makers. Fields could be a nice, young role player .. but thats 3 yrs, $10 mm .. not 3 yrs $20 mm

      • Rob

        It’d be very welcome news indeed. Still have my doubts that it’d happen though, I think the Knicks are perfectly content with letting him walk at that price, but you never know, hopefully they see him as a valuable complementary piece needed to contend. Never rule out those Knicks. lol

        And, not that this means much, if anything, but when Knicks coach Mike Woodson was asked if the Knicks would match the Fields offer-sheet, he responded “I don’t know.”

  • H to the Immo

    On paper that 2nd unit is better than the 1st unit.

  • Lifewantone

    my god people. Look around you…open the door…and swing those atrophied legs of yours…to see the light of day…