Despite this Jonas Valanciunas and the Lithuanian National Team won the semifinals in Caracas and will be in the Olympics.

Much has been said about the need for Jonas to play in the Summer League in order to adapt the NBA style. Of course, it’ll be a difficult transition for him after spending his entire career playing in Europe, but the Olympic Games are a huge experience for a young player. It’s the biggest international stage where Valanciunas will have to defend top players like Scola, the Gasol brothers, Serge Ibaka, Kevin Love, among others. For what was seen in Caracas, Jonas will play 15 to 20 minutes if he stays out of foul trouble, he’s not there to be a third stringer. Also, He will have a great point guard who could feed him the way he needs at this stage of his career.

Obviously, he needs to adapt to the NBA game but the Summer League is not the answer. The ‘now or never’ individual attitude of most summer league players is not what Jonas needs to develop his game. Most of the players are looking for a last opportunity to make a NBA roster or a good contract. At this point, Valanciunas can’t create his own shot, he needs a PG to pass him the ball near the basket and that’s not going to happen in Las Vegas. The Summer League is for athletic scorers and offensive minded bigs, he doesn’t fit in this mold. In terms of Valanciunas’ development, there’s no comparison between the inferior competition of the Summer League team and an Olympic experience.

Lithuania is going to London after the Olympic qualifier in Caracas. They beat the best American teams in the tournaments as Jonas struggled against Daniel Santiago and Peter John Ramos from Puerto Rico in quarterfinals, but shined against Al Horford and Yack Michael Martínez from the Dominican Republic in the semis.

Jonas battled foul trouble that kept him on the floor for only 6 minutes against Puerto Rico. His third foul was a bad call and after that Jonas seemed frustrated. His coach put him twice in the fourth quarter and he was instantly called again. He fouled out in six minutes with no field goals attempted and three rebounds. His assignment was 7’3″ Peter John Ramos, a former 275 lbs Wizard with almost no mobility. Robertas Javtokas did better because he’s much stronger than Jonas.

The next day, Lithuania played against Republica Dominicana expecting a win that send them directly to London. Jonas battled with the best interior presence of the tournament: Al Horford and rebounding leader Yack Michael Martínez. Against a more agile center, Jonas displayed his best version. He finished with 17 points in nine shots and 5/6 from the FT line. He added 7 rebounds, 1 block and a steal before fouling out with 20 seconds remaining in a game won by 26 points. He was a tournament-high 26 minutes on the floor and looked terrifically active on both ends. He controlled the defensive boards, thus limiting the offensive rebounding, which is the Dominicans’ best threat. On the offensive side, he spendt most of his time setting picks for his teammates, especially Sarunas Jasikevicius and Mantas Kalinetis. He often gets overlooked by his teammates despite getting a good position inside. He lacks a reliable offensive arsenal but he’s very effective with the ball in his hands. Not a great passer but an extraordinary finisher.

Coach Kemzura rarely uses two interior players at the same time. Lithuania’s starting PF is Linas Kleiza and we all know about Kleiza’s tendency to work in the perimeter. The three bigs in the team (Jonas, Darius Songaila and Robertas Javtokas) rarely shared the court. In the perimeter-oriented offense of Lithuania , Jonas has a residual offensive role besides setting multiple picks, but he still managed to average 8 points per game on 70% FG.

Lithuania will be playing in Group A against USA, Argentina, France, Nigeria and Tunisia. The Olympics start in fifteen days but the basketball opener is schedule for July 29th. The four best records in the group advance to the second round where they’ll face the four best records in Group B.

  • Raps4lyfe

    i don’t mean to rain on the parade, but by looking at film, Motiejunas looks much more offensively polished can we get an in depth look from you guys on what Val brings to the table and versus Motiejunas?

    • Lorenzo

      Really? From what i saw most of his points were putbacks and 5-footers. Haven’t seen much from either but I don’t think there’s much to him offensively. Excluding that 3-pointer he hit that surprised everyone.

    • TOraps

      BC and his CONsensus crew passed on Motiejunas for JV? More PR spins in the wind, fk BC point blank!!!

      —-BCCaseyStefanskiGots2Go

    • http://theondeckcircle.net/ Blake Murphy

      The biggest sign I see in the comparison is that Motieunas opted out of playing with the national team because they weren’t willing to guarantee him a role and minutes. Since Jonas, while not “guaranteed” I’m sure, has consistently gotten minutes through two international tournies now, it seems the national team likes his game better, at least how it pertains to their team concept. Maybe doesn’t mean much, but then again neither do Summer League stats.

      • Bendit

        Behavior becoming of an entitled NBA star. Already?  

    • TheR3dMenace

      This is a joke right?

    • therapsheet.com

      Your extensive knowledge of basketball and “film” watching im sure intrigues us all. Please provide us with your expert opinion on how Motiejunas is more offensively polished than JV? Did you just watch the .45 second clip from The Score of summer league ball?

      • Raps4lyfe

        it doesn’t take an expert to see that Montijunas has NBA 3 pt range and back to the basket moves, versus Val who has limited range and gets more “garbage points” than points created by himself. And by film, I mean summer league highlights and youtube vids, im no expert, i was just making an observation.

        • CJT

          did you see the “highlights” from last nights game?  Montijunas was brutal on both ends of the floor.  So maybe his issue isn’t potential it’s more consistency?

          • Lorenzo

            Not as bad as Machado though, B-R-U-T-A-L. He had 3 turnovers in a row on 3 straight possessions… sorry Nilanka…

            • CJT

              Machado has been bad both games now.  He made Uzoh look pretty good as a third option PG

            • Nilanka15

              I’m not concerned about the turnovers.  It’s his first career summer league game. 

              But based on his pure playmaking abilities, Machado was the best on the floor, creating countless open looks for his teammates.  The potential is definitely there.  I don’t see any risk in bringing him on as a 3rd stringer.

              Uzoh, on the other hand, looks like he’s still learning how to dribble.

        • therapsheet.com

          Well first and foremost you can’t “like” your own comment every time you refresh your browser after deleting all the porn you have been watching between the Montijunas highlight clips. BTW those clips are compilations (which you’re use to) of his best highlights over 3 seasons. Hoffa probably has some highlight clips out there too, but probably not.

          If you’re judging who is better or more “polished”  before either have played an official nba game; congratulations! I wont even try and retort to your other posts because it essentially would be a waste of time. Rather I will merely point out that Montijunas was selected 20th overall. 16 teams passed on him before being selected, even Houston who selected Marcus Morris out of Kansas before working out that trade up for Montijunas. Montijunas was Houstons plan c because they originally wanted JV or Biyombo so they settled for Montijunas (http://www.chron.com/sports/rockets/article/Rockets-pick-Morris-trade-up-for-Motiejunas-2078459.php).

          I can only hope that the majority of raptor fans or followers do not succumb to your method of thinking. If so, we’re in trouble!
           

          • Retepadam

             Aw, that’s cute. You have trolls in Canada too.

    • your mom

       that was a fluck. second game 1 point

      • Lorenzo

        Ah yes, a fluck.

    • Seeten

       Sorry, did you just say we should have drafted another Euro that plays just like Andrea Bargnani? One Bargnani isn’t enough for you?

  • rus

    Group of death, odds
    usa 1.2
    france 30
    Argentina 30
    Lit  40 
    and scrubs
    that’s a tough schedule
     
    relatively speaking
    spain’s group
    spain 5
    russia 40
    brazil 50
    scrubs

  • GameBreaker

    That’s just gonna start a whole “BC fucked up!’, “Motiejunas is our better option than Jonas!’, “BC fucked up for …”, “Why didn’t go after this guy? BC’s stupid!” stuff.    

    • Lorenzo

      In 3… 2… 1…

    • Thetruth

      Whenever someone comes up to tell you we screwed up by not drafting Motiejunas over a summer league game, just respond back with two words, “Marco Bellineli”.

      • Thetruth

        Of course, Mark Jones and his idiotic “Raps source” would disagree. Stick to covering Miami area sports.

    • your mom

       your dump

  • boshrawr

    Anyone take in Harrison Barnes? What was his performance like in comparison to Ross?

    • Rob

      8-14 shooting for 23 points including 4-4 3FGs, and 2 REBs. Read that he scored multiple ways, including attacking the rim. Solid debut from him.

      • boshrawr

        Possibility that It’s distorted due to the travesty that is the Lakers summer league team? It just irks me that we were one.spot away and burned by a stupid coin flip.

        • Thetruth

          Oh I so agree with you boshrawr. I’ll always hate the Warriors and David Stern (who I think is the best commissioner in sports but c’mon really, Coin Flips????!!!). The Warriors blatantly tanked, they sent their starting PF David Lee home basically with 20 games left in the season..it was just disgusting.

        • Rob

          Most likely. Hopefully, in the future, we won’t be looking back at the coin-flip result as something that the franchise will regret, and no slight on Barnes, hope he does well…to an extent. lol

  • NyAlesund

    Motiejunas and Val are different players. We need someone who protect the paint, no one is a “copy” of Bargnani. Yes, because despite some numbers he has the same AB’s problem to grab rebs. In addition playing well in Las Vegas doesn’t mean nothing.

    We can appreciate Val at the Olympic Games against the real teams, while Donatas will show his talent against the D-League players and some prospects. I see a lot of differences.

    • Thetruth

      Like I said earlier, Mark Jones is an idiot. I would love to know the “Raps Source” who says that he prefers a player to play in the summer league over the Olympics. Let’s get real for a moment, it’s not like we’re competing for the championship next season. Let the kid enjoy the honor of representing his country. Damn fool that Jones.

  • mike

    lol one game and people are nuts over one guy… if we did that based on every talent in the d league.. nba….. then we would sign a bunch of scrubs 

  • Thetruth

    Mark Jones is an Idiot. That’s the truth. Surprised he heard of a team up in Canada.

    • LeeZ

      Um…you DO know that Mark Jones is Canadian, right? (he and his brother played under Bob Bain at York). With a name like “The Truth”, you’d think you might want to get your facts straight…

      • Thetruth

        No, admittedly I did not know that. I thought he was just another clueless ESPN analyst when it comes to everything Toronto. I’ll admit I was wrong on that but his tweet from his “Raps source” was downright stupid and almost offensive to any kid who dreams of representing their country in the olympics.

        • Thetruth

          And seriously since when was playing in the SUMMER LEAGUE preferable  to the freaking Olympics. I don’t care about acclimating himself to the nuisance of the NBA game, it’s the freaking Olympics.

          • Thetruth

            *nuance not nuisance. My bad.

          • LeeZ

            I totally agree with you, btw. Just wanted to clear up the Jones being Canadian thing.

        • Destro

          Oh He is clueless and swagless he just happens to be local…*shrugs*

          • Thetruth

            So what if he is local? That doesn’t make his tweet any less stupid. The “Raps source” that said the Raps hope Lithuania misses out on the Olympics so Valanciunas can play in summer league really needs to evaluate his priorities. You just don’t wish something like that on someone. The Olympics is an honour and his wishes were borderline offensive.

          • Thetruth

            and seriously, drop the swag stuff dude. It adds no value to any discussion.

            • Destro

              STFU

              • Thetruth

                Keyboard warrior

                • Destro

                  Faggot muthafucka

                • ghost

                  Really dude…

  • weedman

    DVR’d the first summer league game which I skipped around, watching some of. Couple thoughts. 

    Terrence Ross looks like he’ll be a good player. Maybe very good. (Maybe VERY good, time will tell.) Comparisons to DeMar are inevitable; there ARE similarities. But TR’s shot has waaayyy better mechanics, for one thing. (He’s a GOOD shooter.) Also, (maybe) savvier than DD somehow, with a smoothness to his athleticism that makes me wonder how good he’ll be in a few years. I’m curious about how hard it might push DD, having Terrence Ross on the team. (?)  I’m guessing there’ll be an effect; it should be good. However it works out, Terrence Ross is a keeper.  

    Rockets’ Donatas Motiejunas looked impressive, it’s true, but … considering that Lithuania is as basketball-crazy as it is, with an overall hoops-IQ much higher than half the posters here in RR-land (haha) (but … no, really), and that Jonas Valanciunas is the player that is SO revered there, a thousand times more than Donatas Motiejunas is, I’m more than ready to watch JV grow into the bona-fide NBAer (star? we’ll see) that so many expect him to be, over the next half dozen or so years. (And Olympic-hoops, coming up, might be extra-fun.) 

    Quincy Acy looks interesting. He’s not the crazed rebound-machine Reggie is but … sort of physically, overall, there’s a toughness similarity that might be there, with one big difference being that Acy can shoot a bit. Looks like a guy who, when (if) he gets playing time, we might come to like.  

    Ed Davis looks like he’s ready to take a step forward, maybe a big step. Made a nice spin-move, finishing for an and-one early in the game. And his free-throw shot looks much less awkward. Better shooting form, in general, actually. Rebounding good like usual. I’ve been up and down on ED since he’s been here and … I’m back to ‘up’. Keeping my expectations in check but … this could be a very interesting season for Ed Davis. 

    • ckh26

      Missed the game. Does ED look like he has gotten a bit more muscle to his frame for this coming year ?

      • Lorenzo

        Uhhhhh… kinda…

        I’m more excited to see Demar, apparently he got bigger according to Casey

        • ckh26

          Can’t believe Davis didn’t hit the weight room like a man on a mission. He really needs to get stronger to have an impact on this coming season and his career.  Its not that he has to bulk up like he found Ben Johnston’s supply of Stanazanol but he has to get much stronger. If he doesn’t there are a lot of other guys who want to wear an NBA uniform (Acy) that will do what it takes. Lorenzo.. hope your right and Demar got bigger/stronger. That extra oomph can only help him as he continues to improve his inside game.  If there is a thought he can play the 3.. he will have to get up in the 220’s to stay with the men.

      • Rob

        Didn’t see it either, but I read that he looks a bit bigger, still has a ways to go though, which is fair, only mid-July.

      • LeeZ

        Couldn’t tell about the muscle and admittedly I didn’t watch right to the end, but on two of his first possessions he got stripped of the ball from a help defender as he laboriously tried to post his man up. Hit a few jumpers. Yawn. These games are supposed to give him a chance to put his imprint on the offence. Why don’t we just get this straight right now: Ed Davis will never be anything more than a solid backup in this league. No team with playoff run aspirations would ever start this guy.

        • weedman

          “Why don’t we get this straight right now” … ? Dude, even Gots2go comes off like less of an a-hole. I see you and your ridiculous pronouncements on bball blogs (and other subjects) all over and I’m getting to where I just skip ‘em. 

    • Thetruth

      David Thorpe tweeted that he was very impressed with Terrence Ross. Said he will be better than Derozan. Wonder if Derozan steps up this season with some serious competition behind him.

      • Destro

        Since when did David Thorpe’s opinion matter…

        • Rob

          Wasn’t he the guy that had the man-crush on Alabi?

        • Thetruth

          I suppose we should listen to you then?

          • rus

             I wouldn’t really listen to Destro, but in this instance I can’t help but agree, everything I read from mr. thorpe has been awful. Case in point, he said the raptors needed to draft Jared Sullinger and gave reasoning that basically made it clear he had never watched the team, nor new its roster
            plus he’s an agent I believe, take from that what you will, but I don’t particularly like agents

            • Thetruth

              Thorpe is a personal trainer for many NBA athletes. I agree with you that his analysis of NBA teams is not always great and he can be very kind sometimes in his analysis but the guy makes a living off training NBA players so he knows a thing or two when watching a particular player play the game. The only reason I wrote this post is so we can agree to never agree with anything that Destro says lol.

              • Destro

                Oh personal trainers opinion oh shit does he have a blog i can subscrizzle too gimme gimme gimme

                *side eye*

                personal trainer lolol

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

     The latest news (btw TWJr is better than TRoss who is a solid player):

    ESPNSteinLine Marc SteinSo in today’s big amnesty machinations: Bobcats claim Mavs castoff Brendan Haywood & Wolves castoff Darko Milicic now available to masses.

    coachthorpe david b. thorpeWroten has jump off the screen talent. The Grizzlies have the kind of coach and culture that can smooth over his rough edges.41 minutes ago     

  • voy

    i have no prob with jv playing with lithuania in the olympics.  its not like he’s missing out on the competition level of the summer league.  It’ll be a much better life experience for the kid than playing against “undrafted dude from a country where they still use fruit baskets as hoops”.

  • Destro

    Tony Wroten looking good…

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      I don’t know why a team would take TRoss over TWJr as TWJr does things for other players on the court plus he was the heart & soul of this past UW Husky basketball team as a freshman being the only player that didn’t freeze up under the bright lights of NYC against both Marquette & Duke.

      In the Duke game TWJr was clearly the best palyer on the court as he body-bagged ARivers (whom NO is trying to turn into a pg) causing him to foul out of the game while TWJr was locking ARivers up on defense.

      Don’t get me wrong TRoss is a very good player but he needs someone to get him shots and isn’t a good off the bounce player going to the rim as of yet while TWJr can create for himself and others off of the bounce plus as people saw today that he can hit 3s and make his fts while getting opposing players into foul trouble.

      As NBAInsider Chad Ford said pre draft that TWJr is a top 5 talent in this draft but his outside shooting and recklessness on the court will scare teams away and I will say this TWJr will be one of the top 3 players form this draft looking back in a few years.

      • Lorenzo

        Hey look, he had more assists than turnovers this game. Movin’ on up.

        “I will say this TWJr will be one of the top 3 players form this draft looking back in a few years.”

        I’ll paste this again when the time presents itself.

        • Destro

          Just paste bargs rebound numbers each game,thats all we need from YOU….

          • Lorenzo

            Lmfao.

            You forgot to change your callsign when you attempted to defend yourself, ugly kid…

            • Destro

              Hurling school yard insults wont make yer man an all star…

              • Lorenzo

                What? My man? All-star?

              • Lorenzo

                Funny how you say that. That was weeeeeeeak

          • me

            boom!

      • sleepz

        It’s only summer league but Wroten looked good today and his shot was falling which makes him very difficult to guard.

        We won’t know for a few years who pans out to be what however Ross would not have been my choice at #8. I like him as he finishes in transition, can catch and shoot as well but his handles need much improvement. I’ve also liked what J.Lamb has shown for Houston.

        He would have been my preference at #8 and I also wouldn’t have had any issues with the Raps trading back and selecting Wroten, but once again, time will tell the story. 

        • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

          Now that TWJr has players that can catch and finish his passes he will be that much more dangerous as he matures- I can’t wait to see him at 23 years old in 4 years.

          I like the TRoss pick- even though ADrummond was on the board (BC said that he had TR rated higher than AD- really?), rather than Lamb from a personal perspective but both should be solid pros if they can stay healthy.

      • rus

         hit threes? guy shot 16% last year from 3pt range, and 58% from the line, don’t know what his jump shot is like, but it sounds rotten.
        So he can finish at the rim, and he’s a tall PG with vision,
        But top three for this class?
        you being a self pro claimer of “knowing” basketball, you should realize that in fact it is you that has got to go…

        • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

          You’re talking about the past I’m talking about the present & future……as the game Vegas Summer League game announcers mentioned TWJr’s hitch in his J is now gone ie 2/3 from the NBA 3pt line and 7-8 on his fts, his J now has a smoother stroke which was the knock on him going into the draft.

          Good players do things for themselves on the court great players do things for others on the court. TWJr does things for others- do the full math not the self serving half.

          TWJr can effect a game without making a shot how many players can claim that?

          TWJr is a top 3 talent from this draft how soon folks forget that he was the #1 rated player for his class since the 6th grade and he only fell because of an ACL injury that he suffered as a junior in HS while playing football.

          In 4 years by the time this kid is 23 he will be a force in the NBA- barring injuries.

          coachthorpe davidb.thorpe Wroten has jump off the screen talent. The Grizzlies have the kind of coach and culture that can smooth over his rough edges.

          Time will tell….

      • Thetruth

        Dude….17 other teams after us passed on Tony Wroten Jr!! Your hate is unbelievable. And congratulations for being an ESPN Insider, almost everyone here is a subscriber.

        • Destro

          Yes AND ?
          Same number of teams passed on Kobe Bryant…..

          • Thetruth

            Kobe Bryant was drafted 13th overall as a 17 year old kid straight out of High School in one of the most celebrated drafts in NBA history. TWroten Jr. was drafted 25th overall in a deep draft devoid of a legit superstar outside of Anthony Davis.

            Educate yourself fool.

            • Destro

              Yes i see the point is lost on you as per usual.
              POint is goofball alot of teams passed on a top 10 player of all time….

            • Retepadam

              How about Rajon Rondo going 21st in the Andrea Bargnani draft?

              Go drink Drano.

      • John

        I remember you were very happy that we selected T.Ross and called it a solid pick and … I can post a link to your post after the draft. How did you have a change of heart so quickly ?

        • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

          You sound like alot like a sucka emcee…lmfao

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Ryan Wolstat: “We’re going to demand that Andrea rebounds, he’s still 7-foot,” said Dwane Casey

    We all know how the 2 rebs per Q Casey request went……..lol

    What I do on offense is more complicated than defense or rebounding (ABargnani voice)

    • Destro

      hilarious…..Its still amazing 6 yrs into this how nobody in this org holds him accountable for things HE supposed to be doing….it really is…

      • Ihatehaters

        You’re replying to your alter-ego now? Get the man a doctor!

    • me

      casey better be carefull,Andy might demand a trade.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Marc Stein ESPNSteinLine
    RT alanhahn: Meanwhile Knicks have confirmed they did not match Raptors’ offer sheet to Landry Fields.BC keeps the Raptors roster stuck with overpaying up contracts for marginal talent…..while letting JBayless walk away for nothing to Memphis and currently refusing to amnesty (July 11-17) Jose and his 10 million dollar salary cap hit….lmfaoBC’s TDot Pres/GM resume is full of befuddling player transactions and f/a process missteps/miscalculations…..

    What was the NBA lockout about again??????

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      BC drafts a SG then signs a SG as his top f/a and still has DD on the team as the starting SG.

      I know they can all play some 3 depending on in game situations but the fact is that they are all SGs……that can’t create their own shots of off the bounce.

      Sonny Weems has got to be somewhere wondering where his big Raptors payday went….

      Btw SWeems >> LFields

      • Thetruth

        Your the Skip Bayless of Raptors Republic. Except your not refined and you probably barely have a high school education.

        • Thetruth

          *You’re

        • Destro

          Skip Bayless is an idiot with entitlement who is allowed to go unchallenged in a forum where he goes up against chimps who pander to his BS…

          Basically by co-signing that non sense you’ve silenced ur voice round here…GOOD.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Guard C.J. Watson agreed to a two-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets late Saturday, securing the team’s need for a backup point guard behind All-Star Deron Williams.

    Watson, 29, will play at the veterans minimum and owns the player option for the second year.

    Watson is in his sixth year in the NBA and averaged 9.7 points and 4.1 assists in 25 starts with the Chicago Bulls last season.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    LarryCoon Larry CoonRT FisolaNYDN: The Knicks acquired Felton and Kurt Thomas from Portland for Jared Jeffries and Dan Gadzuric, sources tell the Daily News.

    Looks like Lin is going to Houston. Smart no need to overpay a guy who thived in a coach’s freestyle offensive system who is no longer the NY coach. 

    Raptors look to be last in the Atlantic as is:

    NJ
    BOS
    NY
    PHI
    TOR

    while both BC & Casey called this a playoff year for the Rap’s in the season ending presser where they declared the rebuild/build was over.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Masai Uriji is a solid GM but he messed up selecting Fournier (whom they wanted to stay in Europe for a couple of years but he didn’t want to) at #20 over TWJr which I was surprised with since Masai went to HS in Seattle (Nathan Hale HS) and knew all about TWJr.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Does anyone really believe BC accomplished all that he took credit for in Phoenix?

    Or was he allowed to take credit for his daddy’s team’s moves?

    All I can say as Rap’s Pres/GM BC has made more amatuerish moves ie MBarnes attempted signing/LFields offer sheet, than someone who should be a proven GM veteran at running a successful NBA Franchise while continuing to hold onto Bargnani as a building block of this team..

    • Ihatehaters

      Yo, you think this is your personal blog or something? Stop posting a million times in a row, you mouth-breather.

      • Thetruth

        It’s a tough economy man. No job means spending all day on Raptors Republic spewing jibberish. The Skip Bayless of bums ladies and gentlemen.

      • Theswirsky

        You might aswell have begged him to post more. 

        responding to trolls leads more trolling

      • FLUXLAND

        And you think it’s your blog? So you can tell people what to do? GTFO, you waste of space. 

        • Thetruth

          Liking your own comment is frowned upon in Plato’s Republic.

          • FLUXLAND

            Get a hold of yourself. I don’t like my comments, in fact I think it’s the most idiotic feature on any blog – it’s only purpose to feed people’s egos. I’d prefer it didn’t exist at all.

            You never read the book, don’t lie. 

            • hater

              *I don’t like my comments*,,,,,,,ur not the only 1 lmao.

    • ckh26

      Would you rather have Rob Babcock back at the controls ? 

    • John

      Fully agree with you. It is astonishing the way BC is messing one task after another. The Fields contract is the latest blunder and it seems like he has no direction what so ever !!! Can this team compete in 3 years for top 3 spot in East ??! My answer is NO and that would be the 10th year that BC took over this team with Cap space and #1 draft picks in his hand and after 10 years, he was not able to make a team to compete for the top 3 spot in the Eastern conference.

      • FLUXLAND

        It won’t be his fault. He is a cap space/mathematical genius, do you not see the flexibility we will have in year no one cares when?  And he always fixes every wrong – overpay and trade.. that’s how he rolls…that’s how all chip teams are built, no?

        Can’t blame the guy for bad luck; that’s all it is. Bad luck. Of course, when things go “right”, it’s not sheer luck and a shitty division, it’s the basketball genius of BC @ work.

        I don’t even see him in a GM capacity after this; he’s already on the competition committee, he’ll likely stay in the NBA working that World Cup dream of Stern’s. I’m of the thinking he will follow his old man and get away from front office jobs.   

         

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    WolstatSun: chris_tozzi No, his guy at the 3 has yet to arrive actually. Fields isn’t it. He’s solid jack of all trades 2/3 ideally.

  • Jeffrey Thompson

    Lithuania is in a rather tough group with the USA, France and Argentina.  Those are probably three of the best teams in the Olympics.  they’ll be hard pressed to make it in the Second round.   Nigeria and Tunisia will be thatgroup’s whipping boys–that’s for certain.

    • cesco

      I believe the top 4 teams in each group make it to the quarter finals where  #1 first group meet #4 second group , etc…

    • Destro

      Who gives a shit…you watch basketball in the olympics to watch team USA and nobody else….lol @ France and Lithuania…

      • Thetruth

        You are beyond ignorant. Just beyond. 

        • Destro

          Nah fuck the tourney outside of USA
          aint nobody care about France and Estonia…call it what it is….

          I wanna see LeBron throw down some hammers on those goofy whiteboys….

          • Thetruth

            Not racist at all. Not one bit. 

            • Destro

              You clearly have no idea what racism IS
              So i wont contine cac….racism is what YOUR people did during the middle passage…

              • ghost

                What…

          • CJT

            You mean like Nic Batum?  From France?  Those goofy whiteboys?

            • Destro

              1 player out of what 20 is the exception to the rule…right not the rule itself…Try again.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    I will say this once, I may say this twice- TRoss is very good but TWJr is extra nice!

    • CJT

      you’ve said it thrice in this thread alone.  please stop. please.

      • FLUXLAND

        He probably figures most people on here do not read anything besides the TO clown show of Doug Smith, Erica K and the fluffers who continue to profess this team is x player away from contention. It pays to pay attention to the other teams, so we don’t have to read the annual Who Are We Really Scared Of In The East from the BC soldiers on this forum, when it’s far more likely we are eating the East basement once again. Every single team in the L makes it a point to lose to the Raps, every year. It’s like losing to your much younger sister at anything… down right embarrassing. 

        • FLUXLAND

          *not lose. 

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Jason Kidd was arrested on Sunday morning on an alleged drunk driving charge, according to police in Southampton.Kidd was arraigned on a misdemeanor DWI charge on Sunday morning in Southampton Town Justice Court and released on his own recognizance.Kidd officially signed a three-year, $9.5 million deal with the Knicks on Thursday.

    • CJT

      And now with the evening news……..

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    The Bulls have contacted teams to ask about their interest in trading for Richard Hamilton, sources say, but have found little interest in the 34-year-old shooting guard.Hamilton is due $5 million next season, with a mere $1 million guarantee for 2013-14.Hamilton averaged 11.6 points on 45.2 percent shooting last season.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Raptors vs Heat 6:30 pm est NBATV

    Miami HEAT
    NO. Name Pos. Hgt. Wgt. Birthdate College/Pro Team Yrs. Pro4 JCovan Brown G 6-1 197 2/14/90 Texas R24 Jason Clark G 6-2 180 1/16/90 Georgetown R30 Norris Cole G 6-2 175 10/13/88 Cleveland State 142 Robert Dozier F 6-9 215 11/6/85 Memphis R26 Trey Gilder F 6-9 185 1/24/85 Northwestern State 144 Justin Hamilton C 7-0 260 4/1/90 Louisiana State R52 Lamont Hamilton C 6-9 242 4/6/84 St. John’s R12 Dwight Hardy G 6-2 196 12/2/87 St. John’s R14 Terrel Harris G 6-4 190 8/10/87 Oklahoma State 125 John Holland G 6-5 205 11/6/88 Boston University R45 Dexter Pittman C 6-11 ½ 285 3/2/88 Texas 232 Damian Saunders F 6-7 210 11/1/88 Duquesne R35 Adrian Thomas F 6-7 224 4/30/87 Miami-FL R43 Jarvis Varnado F 6-9 210 3/1/88 Mississippi State R54 Drew Viney F 6-8 210 9/17/88 Loyola Marymount R20 Kyle Weaver G 6-6 200 2/18/86 Washington State 3

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      Sam is calling the game!!!

      • mountio

        Sam had lots of good things to say about T Ross ..

  • Destro

    So will Jonas,Fields and Acy steal rebounds from Bargnani this season?

    • cesco

      The number of rebounds the team get is the most important rebounds stat . Who cares  if a 7 footer get less rebounds than a 6 footer as long as the team is/becomes a top rebounding team .

      • Massimo

        I do agree there are many here that are too concerned with rebound they do not realize this is a team game. Kevin Love, David Lee both stat stuffers can rebound a lot and score very well but where are they leading their teams? out of the playoffs?

        • FLUXLAND

          Let’s get something straight right now.. there can never ever, ever, EVER! F EVER be enough concern over rebounding.

          I am not taking away the point you need more than a strong rebounded to make a chip team, but too concerned? No such thing, mio amico. No. Such. Thing.  Not in the NBA. 

          • cesco

             Boston does not seem to be too concerned about rebounding yet they won a championship 4 years ago .

            • FLUXLAND

              I have no idea what you are trying to say or what you are talking about. Boston’s days as contenders are over, and what does any of this have to do with Boston.

              Yet, you brought them up, so let’s take a look:

              2008 Finals Rebounds

              GM 1 BST (46)  LA (33) – B wins
              GM 2 BST (37)  LA (36) – B wins
              GM 3 BST (45)  LA (44) – L wins
              GM 4 BST (40)  LA (41) – B wins
              GM 5 BST (37)  LA (40) – L wins
              GM 6 BST (48)  LA (28) – B wins

              If games 3 and 4 cancel each other out, what do you see? Even if they don’t and add up the totals, what do you see?

              253 B – 222 L

              You can go back and do this for every Final ever, go ahead, tell me what you come with.

              Again, I have no idea what you are talking about, even if you are watching too much Euro ball, what you are looking at?

              Let’s take a look:

              (F) CSKA (30) OLY (24) – C wins
              (SF) CSKA (36) PANT (31) – C wins
              (QF4) CSKA (31) GES (32) – C wins
              (QF3) CSKA (26) GES (29) – G wins
              (QF2) CSKA (39) GES (29) – C wins
              (QF1) CSKA (30) GES (27) – C wins

              I could keep going and going and going, I will guarantee you it will be the same anywhere.

              Do you think this all a coincidence?

              • cesco

                This past season Boston was dead last in rebs/game. The previous two years they were second last . My opinion was based on the fact that Boston has been very competitive in recent years without being a good rebounding team . The year they won the championship they were tied for 8th place so they were a good rebounding team that year but not after that and they remained a top team . They have had great defense but poor rebounding in the last 3 years  .

                • FLUXLAND

                  Your comment is *somewhat* meaningless – regular season #s mean absolutley nothing; a team like the Celtics were not out to win every game, they played based on situations – that’s why when you see the Raps wins games against them or any elite teams, you should realize it means nothing at all. I know how much you like to talk about Andrea the streak buster, but really an elite team losing to a basement dweller is not an indication of anything but teams taking the night off.

                  Please take a look where they ranked in rebounds in the playoffs (the real season) rebound wise:

                  2012 # 2 = CF
                  2011 # 8 = SF
                  2010 # 2 = CF

                  So regardless of what their average rebounding numbers came out to be, I’m willing to bet the games they needed to win and did, they lead in rebounding.

                  Also take a look at the team that won the chip those 3 years and who (what position) lead the playoffs in total rebounds. You can even look at each game and you will see it’s the same story over and over again over who gets the most rebounds…. so no one here can understand how you can say this:  “Who cares  if a 7 footer get less rebounds than a 6 footer as long as
                  the team is/becomes a top rebounding team .”  That is simply absurd. ABSURD!! 

                • hater

                  regular season rebound #s mean absolutely nothin?? lol so I guess we shuldnt care how AB rebounds in the reg. season then?? lmao good one guy foh

                • CJT

                  Good point.  Why does it matter for AB, but no one else in the regular season Flux?

                • FLUXLAND

                  That depends on your expectations of him and  your vision of his role.

                  If you wanna get on here everyday and cry  about him not getting 10 per plus, than yes to you it matters and you can look like a superhero like that clown hater up there, who thinks he’s making a point and looking smart because you he thinks he gets it and AB is not delivering to his expectations. If you have accepted what he is (and btw should have a very long time ago), you would then hope he is used in a different manner, while understanding his skill set is somewhat unique and can be beneficial on any team. You would then move forward in still accomplishing the old tried, tested and true goal and getting a true rebounder. It would pay off for some people to learn the guy’s history and understand how he became what he is.  But if you wanna get on here everyday crying about that MF is 7 ft tall hence he should a , b, and c. then knock yourself out and bask in your wisdom.  

                • hater

                  answer the question dummy instead of contradictin urself. u said word for word that reg season rebound numbrs dont matter and now u backtrackin. so man th fk up and stand by wut u say insted of writin 1 of ur stories tryin to change the subject pally.

                • FLUXLAND

                  I dunno who the f you think you are talking to, I am not your parents, son. Check yourself.

                  I didn’t contradict shit you f moron. Can you read?  I said they don’t mean anything as a point to what cesco was saying about BSTN’s numbers… clearly in the playoffs there was a different story. When the f did AB become part of that conversations there, you stupid cunt?  We were talking about needing 7fts that can rebound and I said you need those. I then went on to explain to CJT about  AB as he asked – doesn’t even fit that mold unless you wanna keep beating a dead horse. Back the f up before you get smacked the f up or learn to read you stupid MF.  duimit

        • Destro

          They have both been all stars in the NBA,Bargnani has not…

          womp womp !

      • Destro

        No its not you dishonest pos…

        Bargs rebounds matters.hes 7 feet…
        Unless hes playing PG his rebounding matters….

        Your C and PF need to rebound consistently to win basketball games in the NBA…

        Number of rebounds bargnani gets is the most important stat…i know youd like to say who cares and throw off the argument cuz ur a stan and italian you must defend him at all costs..|NOOOOOOOPE

        he needs to rebound minimum 7-8 times per game….I hope Casey starts getting tough on him this year and stop giving him free passes on things he SHOULD be doing as a starting C/PF

        • CJT

          Talk to your buddy Flux, who says that regular season rebounding is meaningless.  So if we make the playoffs next year, I am gonna be all over AB’s ass for 7 or more boards per game.

          • FLUXLAND

            Hey cunt face, if you gonna quote me at lest do it right: “regular season #s mean absolutley nothing” – as in they are not an indications of anything that will transpire in the playoffs.

            Did you miss the part how he said their regular season rebound sucked, yet I showed him in the playoffs it was the opposite story.

            Wow, some really, I mean really f stupid people around here. Un f real.

            • p00ka

              Hey, may favourite mouthy RR punk!

              He didn’t miss anything, but you miss more and more screws the more you get wound up, as usual. Any chance he acknowledged your reg. season vs  playoff statement when he said “if we make the playoffs”, or is their too much nuance for you?

              • FLUXLAND

                He still misquoted me. I going to guess you both missed the “somewhat” part.

                His statement is still of the “I will take from it what I want” kind – your style all the way, as proved by him misquoting and missing the somewhat part and you jumping on the bandwagon. Do you see the word rebounds there, fucktard? NO.  No one said that people’s numbers increased in the playoffs, or that it was the case with AB.

                But yeah let’s watch you two take things how you want to and run with it like a couple of mindless hyenas and make idiotic statements. You f worm.

            • hater

              u said wut u said dummy and u cant take it back. “regular season #s mean absolutely nothing” ,,,,,and now u tryin to switch it up and cover up for u ass. i bet u really wish there was an edit button on here so u can take back all the stupid shit u say when u get called out on it. instead u lie and backtrack,,, real piece of work u are pally, just like tht destro fool, same shit different pile,,,,,ol contradictin mf,,,,

              • FLUXLAND

                Says the guy that can’t read.

                Yes, again, regular season #s mean nothing. If you watched enough ball you would understand what that means.

                • hater

                  u said it dummy too late to take it bak and twist it up. u made urself look even more stupid than originally and u tryin to backtrack. i bet u hopin u can find an edit button on here. i wonder y lebron got the mvp award if reg. season numbers mean nothin??? isnt it based on regular season? how about defensive player of the year award, all star games?? how do they get selected if reg. season numbrs dont mean anything? lmfao look how fking stupid u look now.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    The Mavericks are leaning toward bidding on Luis Scola, who was amnestied this week by the Rockets. Dallas expects other teams to bid higher than the one they will submit. The Mavericks are $4 million under the cap and could more salary space by waiving a player currently on the roster.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    NBAonESPN The NBA on ESPNRT WindhorstESPN: The Suns have waived Josh Childress using amnesty provision, sources say. Possibly making room for OJ Mayo.

    johnhollinger John HollingerChildress amnesty likely done to give Suns wiggle room to sign a player w/o rushing to deal with RLopez, who has $7M cap hold.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      ESPNSteinLine Marc SteinRT NBAonESPN: Phoenix Suns win amnesty auction for Luis Scola, sources tell ESPNSteinLine – http://t.co/Koedj0qX

  • John

    unbelievable, 20 million to Fields, 24 million to Lin !! Both Rockets and Raptors got shafted

    • guest

      Both teams brought it on themselves and I honestly believe both teams will regret what they did.

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Jose + TJ =’s PG Controversy.

    Jose + Jack =’s PG Controversy.

    Jose + Lowry =’s PG Controversy.

    Common denominator is Jose- do the math.

    • hater

      common denominator is ur dumb af,,,,