What can the Raptors expect from Dominic McGuire? Tough to predict, I’m inclined to say defense of the Antoine Wright variety except with more fouls and not as many missed threes. Sound about right? Not sure? Here’s his scouting report:

+ Defensive-minded wing with great size. Outstanding rebounder.

+ Awful offensive player. Can’t shoot or handle ball. Shoots anyway.

+ Best position may be smallball 4. Good dunker and shot-blocker.

McGuire is a wing player, but you wouldn’t know it from his stats. His rebounding and shot-blocking numbers look like a power forward or even a center; he was first among small forwards in all three rebounding metrics and second in blocks. He was also third in fouls, third from last in steals, and second-to-last in points per minute. You’ll be forgiven for assuming he’s 7-2.

He’s a wing, though, and at some point he got the idea that because he’s a wing he should shoot jumpers. Somebody really, really needs to tell him to stop. McGuire can’t shoot at all, but nearly half his shots last season from were beyond 10 feet. He shot 28-of-101 from that distance, an impossibly bad 27.7 percent conversion rate; in a related story, he shot a ghastly 39.6 percent overall and had the fifth-worst True Shooting Percentage in the league last season.

When McGuire wasn’t forcing baseline spectators to take cover, he was playing solid defense. This is what keeps him in the league. McGuire is big for a wing and athletic, and although his mobility is average he’s very good against most 3s. I suspect he’d be even better as a smallball 4 and surprised it hasn’t been tried more extensively, as he’s so awful offensively on the perimeter that it’s difficult to justify keeping him on the court.

A decent enough singing by Colangelo which shows the general trend of the roster: acquire defensive minded players instead of fluffy offensive ones.

Things starting to get going. Training camp is October 1-6 in Halifax with a game on October 6 at the Halifax Metro Centre.

Here’s the rookie photoshoot.

  • thecity2

    ” I suspect he’d be even better as a smallball 4 and surprised it hasn’t been tried more extensively,”

    It was use a lot last season. He’s terrible there, or pretty much anywhere. And believe me, we played him everywhere, all 5 positions at one time or another during the season. No lie. Just look at his ratings when playing with the same 4 other teammates as each of these guys:

    http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/pm/703.html

    It’s almost all red (not good).

  • Macc

    >Shoots anyway.

    Next.

    • http://twitter.com/tha1kdub Kev

      I 2nd this!

      Suddenly i have flashes of Jemmario Moon in my head

      on to the next one please!

    • Nilanka15

      I doubt he’ll be seeing the floor enough to make a difference.

  • No disrespect

    james jonhson replacement pushed down the depth chart

    • nottheendoftheworld

      GSW fans all rave and say we’ll love the guy … we didn’t say that about JJ. In fact, I’m not sure we’d say that about any current Raptor. Would you?

  • wrooster

    Wouldn’t it be more fair and objective to mention his stats last season with the Warriors. His shooting percentage was 0.448 (Raptors team average 0.440) or 94/210.
    His ball handling was not that bad – 1.7 assists per game in 17 minutes, with an assist to turnover ratio 110/56 = 1.96. Not bad for a forward.
    So while he’s not great offensively (0 for 4 from 3 pt. range) there were plenty of worse offensive players last year.

    • Jmanel

      If all he does is see the floor in practice, he will have served his purpose in helping to develop Ross and DeMar.

  • Roarque

    Someone way smarter than us made this decision – let’s give him the courtesy due his position in the world of professional basketball. If it was Dwane then he’salso earned our respect.

    • Destro

      Colangelo isnt smarter than the average fan that knows his shit….He happened to grow up in the old boys network courtesy his father…His track record here tells you hes not smarter…His respect is not given and has not been earned here…move along !

      • CJT

        yes, he is smarter.  move along yourself.  Ivy league education, regardless of his birth benefits.  He is much smarter.  Doesn’t make him a great gm.  just smarter.

      • cesco

        How do you know what average fans really knows when they were never asked to manage a professional sport team . They are called armchair generals for a reason , I believe .

      • Matt52

        That is akin to the person playing the stock market with a fantasy account. As soon as real money is on the line and bad decisions matter, performance suddenly changes.

      • Roarque

        Do you actually believe that Colangelo makes these decisions these days without consulting Dwane? That’s not how business is done in today’s world. Stop watching Moneyball and thinks about the kind of person BC has to be to stay employed in the NBA.

  • primetime21

    Off topic and not sure if It’s been mentioned before but anyone see the Raptors tv special on inside summer league? They’re actually showing it right now, was wondering if its recent…

  • minks77

    The odd time DeMar and Dom are on the wings together will make for some ugly ball

    • Brain Colangelo

      What’s the difference between Domonic McGuire and James Johnson? On paper, nothing. In reality, one big, fat, shit-eating grin.

      • minks77

         Well from what I’ve read DM seems to be less of a prima donna and JJ’s play was wildly overrated, IMO, and more expensive than DM’s. That being said JJ is a better offensive player with a worse haircut.

        • CJT

          “That being said JJ is a better offensive player”  Who thought he was better than he was.  Hopfully DM will grow to understand his limitations and his role on the team.  Something JJ wasn’t able to do.  Although I have to admit that every once in a while I will fire up that clip of JJ jamming over the back of Blake Griffin.  Love that.

        • Statement

          I actually liked James,

          He was a pretty good ball handler and could make a pass.  Probably an overrated but good defender and rebounder.   His jumpshot was horri-ugly, but was improving.

          Shot better from 3-pt range than Bargs last year!

  • KaioKev

    AWWWWWWWW YEAH!!!!

  • vanlivin

    How can you not look at this team, designed to Coach Casey’s liking, and not be excited for this year.  This team is going to work harder than any Raptor team in a very long time.  Another year and it could possibly be ever.  Look at first picture of rookie photo shoot.  See inside them? Look at the history and character of some of the guys coming in and still around.  
    Lowry 
    is going to be Lowry.
    Ed Davis 
    could very well possibly come into his own this year.  A training camp and I imagine he will be as comfortable as he was as a tarheel.
    John Lucas
    is coming in with the mindset resulting from winning a lot of games last year.
    Amir Johnson 
    I swear his inconsistency is a result of being beaten down by a couple of Wallace’s while still a kid.  He seems to come out of it more and more.  When he breaks free, he’ll be rewarded for the beating with having the experience of possibly the best example of a team beating the stars.
    Fields
    Woman.
    Kleiza
    No bullshit.
    Calderon
    Cohesion.
    The bottom of the roster; hard working defenders.  They all seem like guys who will practice hard.  They might not be, but they seem like they won’t be scared and will know their role when they get their opportunity.
    Giving out role cards seems like the obvious, but brilliant.
    Bargnani and Derozan.  Products of a Chris Bosh lead locker room.  There is nowhere to hide anymore!  Every other member of this team is going to work their asses off.  Coach Casey.  They hear him too.  They both could very well hit new levels this year.
    This team is going to be next step Coach Casey.
    Stefanski
    No awful deals from Bryan so far.  Fields is glue.
    Is this team perfect? Pretty rare thing.
    It’s going to be a fun year.

    • Statement

      “Look at first picture of rookie photo shoot. See inside them?”  WTF?

      Of course they’ll be mean-mugging, do you expect pictures of them daintily holding dandelions?

      • CJT

        Do you remember a few years ago the opening game montage for the team was the boys riding around in an old convertible smiling and joking?  Well that is kinda like holding dandelions as far as I can tell.  Hopfully we don’t have to see any more of that kind of crap.

        • Nilanka15

          That was still better than the Beyonce intro…

        • Lorenzo

          Lmfao I remember that, playing to some Kanye music

          • Nilanka15

            I think it was Flo Rida’s “In the Ayer”.

            • CJT

              The Renegades of Funk was the best intro montage that I can remember.  Liked that one.  It had an edge.

      • Vanlivin

        They look like guys Coach Casey could maximize his influence over.

  • minks77

    They should use  Kardi’s ” U know ur Ghetto When…” Cause this team is still a second class squad. We don’t even have a Billups and other than that one Pistons team every other ring was won with a superstar. Or two. Or three.

    Not saying this team isn’t an improvement but we’re still rooting for a Cinderella story to happen next year. 

  • Jamshid

    It seems like the price tag for Iggy became public and proved once again how wrong were the herd and people like Matt52 who were dreaming about acquiring Iggy and Gay !!

    Once again ,The price tag proved how low the perceived values of the assets that BC has gathered during his 7 year in Toronto really are.

    It proved that financial flexibility and expiring contract means nothing when you do a crappy job in acquiring talented assets through free agency and draft.

    • Matt52

      You really are crazy.

      The assets are there to make the trade but the cost was too high for a player who could leave after one year.

      You continue to call me out for figments of your imagination. Sad. And yes the flexibility remains as much as I know that pains you.

      • Jamshid

        The price was HIGH because what you were offering was low value.
        Your currency has no value pal. 

        I know as a mouth piece for organization, it is hard for you to understand what other NBA executive think about guys like DD, Ed and rest of ” Young Guns” and “Young assets” that BC has brought to town. 

        But hopefully, the Iggy price tag was a wake up call and gave you a snap shot of reality 😉

        By the way, tell us more about how we can land Gay !!! 

        I remember you were bragging about our expiring contracts and financial flexibility and our “young assets” last year constantly and how they can translate into Gay !! 

        You were wrong since no one wanted them and they could not even get you Iggy …

        • Matt52

          I believe BC has assembled a roster with 10 players under 27 years of age including the consensus #2 pick in this years draft if he was in it.

          the price for ai was too high because the value was too low? say what? the price was too high because the raps would have been out 2 first round draft picks and had no pg not to mention the asset received could have left one year later. think before you type, please.

          For someone who stalks me so much I’d think you would be more aware of my opinions on DD and ED.

          I can tell you lots of ways to land Rudy. unfortunately none of them are likely to happen. I think the idea of a fan forum where people shoot the shit and share ideas confuses you. as it happens with gay circumstances have changed and where Toronto and Sacramento appeared to be able to make the best offers last year, this year it would be Cleveland and Houston. I do understand flexibility and creative thinking are not your strengths but as circumstances change so do I. I would still be ecstatic if the Raps did land Gay but I am not holding my breath…. not that I ever was.

          Why would I need to tell

          • Jamshid

            “I believe BC has assembled a roster with 10 players under 27 years of age”
            Age does not mean quality and as you can see, no other GM is seeing much quality in this group as well.

            “the price was too high because the raps would have been out 2 first round draft picks and had no pg not to mention the asset received could have left one year later. think before you type, please.”

            Once again my friend you missed the point. We have to lose all that future picks, because we don’t have anyone in this team that anyone else wants which means basically, other GM’s are willing to gamble on future unknown picks, rather than have any of our so called young players. As far as no PG, I agree. This team has so many holes in it after 7 season that if you fill one, the other is still leaking. SF, PG and … List goes on and on . So you see my friend, you are the one who needs to think first before he types.

            “For someone who stalks me so much I’d think you would be more aware of my opinions on DD and ED.”

            Again, you are making this personal. I have nothing against you and simply provide my counter argument to your relentless  advertisement for BC. Ed and DD both have flaws and have been slow in their developments. Again, both are these guys are proof of how bad BC has done in the past and I can ONLY hope Ross, who was drafted very too high at number 8 does not join them as well next year.

            “I can tell you lots of ways to land Rudy. unfortunately none of them are likely to happen.”

            Thanks for proving me right again. None of your fantasy ideas , which you wrote pages and pages all last year about and … are flawed because other team in the league are gathering better assets than us and also at much faster rate.

            Again, one more proof on the poor job that BC has done so far.

            • Nilanka15

              Someone please let this kid back into the forums already.  I can’t take his crying anymore.

            • Matt52

               You don’t seem to grasp the concept that it takes 2 parties willing to exchange assets that the other want.  The Raps have assets other teams want the problem is the Raps want them as well.  It is evident that you are smarter than BC, myself, and just about all the other posters.  I suggest you get a resume in to MLSE.  DD and ED were decent draft picks.  The problem is not all draft picks become stars.

              If AI was younger and under contract longer, he may have very well ended up in Toronto.  You are complaining about not having assets to get the player but it is clear the Raps could have got the player if they wanted.  The point you don’t seem to understand is what good is getting the star player if you have nothing left on the roster?  Do you really want to return to the CB4 days with no depth and an injury away from a lost season? 

              You look at the roster and see no stars… fair enough.  I look at the roster and see depth at all positions, talent, potential, players fit for a specific system, and the ability to add a star if an opportunity arises.  To each their own I guess.  I choose to look half full.

              As for Rudy Gay, are you really that crazy?  Times change.  Last year the Raps had the best package to offer based on speculation.  Rudy Gay was not traded to anyone it should be pointed out making it all kind of moot.  Since then, things have changed.  Other teams have acquired assets, Memphis is getting new ownership which might change the idea they would be looking for a salary dump.  The world is not static.  I’m not sure why you expect a person’s opinions to be.  As circumstances change, so do opinions.  Nevermind the fact this is a fan forum where people share opinions and ideas….. oh right, people who can do so within the rules fo the forums…. which you were not able to do.  The sadness continues.

              Don’t forget this year’s Raps are younger and deeper.  They appear to be better.  They also have retained flexibility to make upgrades should opportunities arise. 

              • CJT

                The price tag was too high because Iggy isn’t that good.  Especially for a one year rental.  I wouldn’t have entertained this trade for more than about a minute.

              • Jamshid

                “You don’t seem to grasp the concept that it takes 2 parties willing to exchange assets that the other want.”

                It seems like you don’t know the first basic rule of sale which is to generate interest. It is making what you have look attractive and find the willing partners. 

                ” The Raps have assets other teams want the problem is the Raps want them as well.”

                Which team wants out asset ? What is the value of these assets ? What you are saying makes no sense because then Raptors should not make any deals to improve their team because they like their Surplus on other positions.
                I agree with you though that Raptors like their so called assets. I will actually think they like them too much because they are NOT worth as much anywhere else in the league.

                “I look at the roster and see depth at all positions, talent, potential, players fit for a specific system, and the ability to add a star if an opportunity arises.”

                Then how come this is not happening ? Why is your GM is having such a tough time adding a star to this team ? After the Hedo failure, it seems like BC is happy with making minor deals. Is it that he does not have the asset or is it that he does not have the credibility to find a partner to deal with ? Either way, this team has failed to generate interest for US stars to come to Toronto and join this team and that was one of the main reasons to bring BC here.

                “I choose to look half full.”
                No doubt 😉

                “Since then, things have changed.  Other teams have acquired assets,”

                That is the exact point. Things change, Teams acquire assets, they get financial flexibility and they position themselves in places that allows them to compete and get better in near future.  They do all that at much faster rate and much more effective than Raptors. This is why we are out of race for any STAR in this league and have to invest on low quality players and … Everyone can improve. What matters is how fast you are improving in respect to your competitors :)

                “oh right, people who can do so within the rules fo the forums…. which you were not able to do.  The sadness continues.”

                Once again, you are getting emotional, loosing your cool and making things personal.
                I am more than OK to post here and have a much better platform to state my opinion. Don’t feel too bad 😉

                “Don’t forget this year’s Raps are younger and deeper.  They appear to be better.  They also have retained flexibility to make upgrades should opportunities arise.”

                One last attempt to put a positive spin on this team and do your duty as a mouthpiece for BC 😉 . It is OK Pal, I understand 😉 Lets see how your young and deep team does this season. 

                My prediction. 30 wins, mostly coming at the end of the season when games mean nothing and we are out of contention for Play Off and we will not get any SUPER STAR in next 2 years under BC management.

                • Matt52

                  I’m so tired of this.

                  The Raps have made improvements and have maintained flexibility moving forward.

                  I look forward to the start of the season.

  • Dwayneconnolly
  • Tonious35

    Our new James Johnson, with less whining and faux-hawkes

    • Jamshid

      when JJ got here Matt52 called him a player with potential to be Pippen !! The herd was raving that JJ is a defensive stopper and BC got a steal from Chicago. They all claimed that No one in the first round can be as good as him. 
      Year later, JJ is out of town and we got a 2nd year pick in return. Isn’t this the definition of buying high, wasting your resources on the development and then selling low ??

      • jomel

        JJ can be that type of player. Right now he’s somewhat of a headcase. If he ever “gets it”, he will be a very good player. Similar to how long it took the Hump to get it.

      • Matt52

        That all sounds about right.  Yup sure does.  There are absolutely no exaggerations or liberties with the truth in the above post.

  • Jamshid

    DD has a Qualifying offer for 2013-2014 season. 
     
    1) What is the fair value for his contract under the new CBA?
    2) Should Raptor just let him become a unrestricted FA ?