Nets 107, Raptors 100 – Box

We saw a bit of everything tonight from the Raps in a fairly close game against a strong Nets team. We knew coming into the game that the Nets would be fired up, what with this being their debut in Brooklyn, and the hurricane, and all. I don’t think anyone could have predicted the “Brooklyn Knight” coming down from the roof though, complete with cheesy superhero introduction and everything. Yeesh.

A few thoughts about seeing basketball at the Barclay’s Center before I get into the game recap – their crowd seems good but not incredible (maybe it was the TV feed, but it did seem like the Raps home crowd was significantly louder), although they did get into the game late with some very loud “Brooklyn” chants that weren’t exactly easy to understand – I’ll admit I thought they were chanting “Derozan” for a while. The court itself is beautiful, that clean black imaging and the herringbone pattern on the court are really sharp. But I digress.

Game Recap

It does seem after a couple of games that the Raps have figured out their slow start issues. They jumped out to an early lead in this one and took the crowd out of the game thanks to some really hot shooting by Lowry and DeRozan, and by the end of the first, it didn’t feel like a blowout was out of the question. The team’s statistics in the first quarter were just absurd – over 60% shooting, assists on 12 of 15 made field goals, and just a single turnover, and served as a great example of what this “all for one and one for all” scoring mentality they’ve been pushing can look like at the highest level.

The second quarter saw the Raps reserves come in and the Nets promptly make up all the ground lost in the first, and then some. You know the situation is dire when you’re wishing Kleiza was on the floor (he didn’t travel with the team due to a family matter) – nobody in the Raps second unit besides Jose is much of a shot creator, and so when they are struggling on defense as they did tonight, they can represent a really significant drop-off from the first unit. Jose and Amir showcased their trademark chemistry and did what they could but the rest of the bench had a pretty negligible impact on the offensive side of the ball tonight (besides Davis in the 4th, but we’ll get to that). The momentum had totally shifted by the end of the first half, the Raps looked totally listless and went into the break down 8, and it seemed like more the way the team played the second quarter.

For all the talk about the Nets having a significant advantage at the guard spots, it was Brook Lopez who the Raptors had no answer for. He may not be a traditional big in the defense/rebounding sense, but he’s crafty and strong with the ball in his hands, and both JV and Amir had their issues guarding him.

He was helped by a couple of factors: first, the Raptors being slow on their defensive switches, especially in the aforementioned second quarter but throughout the game. We saw Fields or Lowry being forced to put a body on Lopez in the low block far too often. Some of this can be chalked up to our young core but part of it was a reflection of the lull in effort we saw in the middle of this game – that can’t happen if the Raps want to compete against the class of the league on a nightly basis, but every team is prone to it sometimes.

Secondly, the refereeing tonight was TERRIBLE. Bennett Salvatore’s reputation precedes him in the league, but it seemed like nearly every call went the opposite direction of what it looked like it should be. There were ticky-tack touch fouls, players that were hacked on no-calls, and multiple occasions where it seemed like the refs got obvious out of bounds calls either backwards (when Lopez lost the ball in the fourth and it was given back to the Nets) or just plain wrong (in the first quarter when a Raptors player dove out of bounds to save the ball, landed, then threw it back in and they allowed play to continue). I wouldn’t say it was particularly biased against the Raps but Lopez was the prime beneficiary, he went to the line 15 times and got both Amir and Jonas in foul trouble early, which mean we saw significant amounts of Aaron Gray in crunch time.

The third quarter saw a lot of back-and-forth, with both teams seemingly content with the 8-10 point scoring differential for the majority of the stanza. Jonas came back in and promptly picked up another foul setting a moving pick, which sealed his fate for the rest of the game. Jonas had a bit of a rough night – there were times on offense where he looked lost with the ball and his foul rate made it difficult for him to be aggressive on defense (though some of that can be attributed to the reffing). He’s young and will have games like this but the Raps really could have used a stronger effort from him tonight, especially when Lopez was shredding the team on the defensive end.

Early in the fourth, the Raps pushed the score back to within a couple of points thanks to a nice little scoring run by Ed Davis, who played his best game of the season/pre-season tonight. Ed is a little bit like DeMar in that his best asset is his athleticism on the offensive end, and he’ll be most effective if he can just keep his game simple by facing up on opposing bigs and driving to the rim. Calderon and Lowry both did a great job finding him in some opportunistic situations, but don’t discount his game – 11 points in 14 minutes is nothing to sneeze at, especially for someone who has a bit of a reputation for poor hands offensively.

The starters came back in and the Raps were able to keep it close, but Brooklyn’s guards finally made their presence felt at the end of the game with some strong free throw shooting, which led to the eventual 7 point spread at the end of the game. You get a feeling that the Raps might have just run out of time in this one, but there was no way the Nets were going to lose their first game in their new building after everything that’s happened this week.

The Starters

Lowry had an unbelievable game tonight, finishing with a ridiculous 27/8/8 line that included some absolute bombs from downtown. I know it’s early in the season, but the guy is playing like an all-star with a true chip on his shoulder – you can tell that he took the matchup with Deron Williams tonight as a statement game, and he certainly came out of the game looking like the stronger point guard on the night. There are a few things to be worried about with his performance – his reckless style led to a couple of scary collisions late in the game, and his insistence on being “the man” led to him forcing some shots late as the Raptors were trying to come back, but the important point to take out of his performance so far this season is that he’s a true bulldog of a player, a culture changer and someone who you feel will give the team a chance to win on a nightly basis, no matter who he’s up against, which is a bit of a foreign feeling for Raps fans.

DeMar began his campaign to make me eat my words about his extension with an excellent effort. Twenty-five points and 10 free throws are solid statistical representations of the ideal DeMar game. The formula for him is simple – use his size and strength to post up smaller guards, and his speed to get to the hoop/line against larger checks, and tonight he did that to a T, particularly when he had his way with MarShon Brooks inside on a nice post-up during the Raps fourth quarter push. If he can keep doing that, and not fall in love with his inconsistent outside shot, he’ll go a long way towards beginning to justify his place as a member of the Raps’ core group (though I still question his potential beyond his scoring ability). But a really nice game from him tonight, which was great to see, especially with pundits predicting a mismatch between Lowry/DeRozan and the Brooklyn backcourt of Johnson/Williams – our guys more than held their own.

I’ve already spoken about Jonas’ game but as for the other starters, Fields did a good job on the defensive end, putting in the majority of work on Joe Johnson on the night and holding him to 14 points, and was actually a big part of the offense during the Raptors’ first quarter surge, picking up 4 assists along the way. He’ll never be a major contributor on that side of the ball but as long as he can continue to work within the offensive scheme and keep the ball moving around the perimeter, he won’t be a hindrance on that side of the ball, which is all we need him to be.

Andrea had a fairly quiet night but was reasonably efficient on the offensive end, finishing with 13 points on 6 of 12 shooting and assisting Jonas with a gorgeous outside-inside pass in the first quarter that was the highlight of the night, in my opinion. He, like all the Raptors bigs, had his issues on defense tonight but managed to stay out of foul trouble, which was an accomplishment in itself with tonight’s reffing crew.

The Bench: In Bullets

  • Davis: excellent game, see above.
  • Amir: showed great hustle and chemistry with Jose, as per usual. Had his issues with Lopez like the rest of the bigs.
  • McGuire: did a decent job defending Joe Johnson in spot duty but not much else.
  • Calderon: Better game than his numbers suggest. As Arse said Thursday, he’s great off the bench (and I like him at either guard spot) but his points and assist numbers will suffer as he’s going to be the player defenses key on. Had some major issues with CJ Watson defensively, who had a big game for the Nets.
  • Lucas: got some spot duty in two point guard lineups but was unable to muster any offense. Needs to score to provide value, especially when he’s paired with Lowry or Calderon in a small-ball backcourt, though he did have a nice steal early in the fourth.
  • Anderson: Had to look at the box score to remind myself he played tonight.
Gray doesn’t get a bullet tonight – him playing 18 minutes tonight was semi-explainable early because of Amir and JV’s foul trouble, but him being left on the floor in crunch time was beyond inexplicable. He found himself open under the hoop twice tonight – once he shanked a dunk, and once he pump faked an imaginary defender, waited for a Nets player to find their way over to him, and was fouled. Yikes. The guy provides a big body but basically nothing else, and he’s really struggling to keep up with the fast-paced offense the Raps are trying to push this season. I like the guy and I realize he’s more of a situational big but he can’t be playing crunch time minutes. He just can’t. Blake wanted me to include his frustrations with Gray’s minutes tonight as well, though he was a bit less diplomatic/PG with his criticism than I was.

All in all, a reasonable effort against a team that many are predicting to be a playoff contender in the East. Being in these close games with strong teams is cause for optimism, but they will also highlight this team’s youth and inexperience closing games. The good thing about that problem is that it can only get better.

Next game is tomorrow night against Minnesota. That first win is coming, just wait!

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  • FAQ

    No surprise the Raps lost again.  They haven’t jelled as a team, and may never jell properly given the disparate skill set of these players.  Sometimes it looked as if KL was the only Raptor consistently creating on offense.

    NO JELL-O…. NO WIN-O…!

    • Me

      FFS get a new line will you, you are boring and negative.

      • Danielscott677


      • FAQ

        Simple facts confuse you and cause you great anguish?  LOL

        (Every time your mommy serves up some Jello-o, you will cringe!)

  • ZZ

    What game were you watching? The score was 107-100

    • Garrett Hinchey

      Whoops! Typo there – thanks for letting me know, I’ve fixed it.

  • Destro

    That last paragraph summed up an earlier post i made about how bad Casey is at making IN game adjustments….NO way Gray should have been in the game at the end….

    Ed Davis at PF and bargnani at C IF you dont wanna go back to JV
    I still think at 3 PFs JV should have been used more…Hes not gonna develop watching,he needs to learn to play with fouls…Very least Ed should have closed the game out,he was out best front court player on both ends….JUst stupid mismanaging by our coach AGAIN….

    • Danielscott677

      I agreed with you the last time and do again. I don ‘t get what casey is thinking…like JV got some ticky tacky fouls, that’s it. Wasn’t like he was being benched for making mistakes and playing bad. Grey over JV in crunch time is just stupid. They keep friggen saying oh we are gonna let him develop and allow him to make mistakes but then this happens. Lastly, if we have ANY chance i hell of sneaking into that 8th spot this year the raptors brass know and the fans know JV will have to be at least mentioned for rookie of the year by averaging close to a double double, or we are finished.
      CASEY let the kid play and learn man !!!

      • FAQ

        You really have a mancrush on JV.  Casey is the coach and has a lot more b-ball smarts than you, junior.

      • Raps Loyalist

        I totally agree!  Developing JV (and Ross) should be the main focus of the team this year.  Even if we did make the playoffs is getting pounded by the Heat or Celtics worth much? (especially if it delays the development of our young core)

        I hate when coaches bench guys for “foul trouble” and then they finish the game with 3 fouls on the bench…so stupid!  Let the kid foul out! We got lots of bigs we can play so don’t bother “protecting” JV..let him play his minutes!   

    • cdub

      Totally agree on tv the announcers were talking about how Ed Davis had scored all 7 of the raps points that quarter, I saw Bargs at the scorer’s table.  Surely he must be coming in for Gray?  Bzzzzzzzzz…nope Ed Davis is out.  Amir Johnson was also playing ok and held out.   Way to ride the hot hand Casey!

  • Ion66

    I like that last line: “It can only get better.” I know that some people may discuss the season based on these first two games, but I’m really hoping that (barring injuries) mid-season we can point to how far the Raps have developed as a team. To expect them to be exactly who they are now, at the end of the season may be too pessimistic. Just have to add, that if you watch the replays on, you’d swear we got blown out by 40 points! This is the sort of lack of respect that I really want to see turned around in the near or not to distant future. Hopefully they wont be able to ignore the play of guys like Lowry down the stretch, and his energy and motivation become culture.

    • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

      Wasn’t the Triano era for player/team development?

  • Destro

    After 2 games :

    Lowry 15
    Bargnani 6


    • NyAlesund

       We know the issue. AB doesn’t have a clou how to grab the rebs. We all know.

      I don’t understand why with AB on the floor in the last 7 minutes he shot only once. Unfortunately he missed the possible 94-94.

      Considering his way of playing, why he didn’t be involved offensively? If we have him on the floor we have to give him a chance to score (from p’n’r and p’a’p) or on the other hand is better to bench him and put ED. Because he is not a tough defender and having him on the floor for nothing is stupid.

      I like Lowry but he has to play with a real point guard not a combo one. This in not help the team. We have some talent and honestly we have to take advantage of.

      • cesco

        Casey had to get his starters on the floor with 7 minutes to go ( except for Gray ) as they were behind by 3 points . Had they been ahead by 3 points ( a possibility if the second unit did not screw up things in the 2nd quarter ) then a defensive unit would have been playing most likely . The problem in the last 7 minutes was Gray on the floor and Lowry wanting to win the game by himself .

        • NyAlesund

           I agree and I was upset to see Gray made a pump fake on Brooks when he received the ball under the rim!!! One of two from ftline. And that it wasn’t the only one. How is it possible for a 7footer doing this against a guard is a mistery for me!!!!

  • AB7.38pt.on.CB4

    The team went from sharing the ball and running set plays in the 1st to a log jam d league 2nd quarter. The bench went in and destroyed it all in a blink. Coach got wrong in that (happens). Where is gone our great zone D ? We have not played 1 minute of it yet!

    Killer plays: LF on a fast break 3 against 1 for an easy 2, pass to the nets for a counter break for a 2 and one!
    AB wide open for the tie (94-92) miss
    AG easy dunk wait too long and miss 1 ft
    AA corner 3 wide open (no more than wide open) rim

  • BCStefanskiCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Bosh goes for 40 against Nuggets……..CB TPE- do you know me?

  • corey

    couple observations:  leads completely deisappear when Calderon is on the floor (he’s a minus player at this point – no defence, nothing new here), we are essentially playing a man short with no offence from the SF position as Fields cant make a shot, and bargani is invisible, not active on the glass, zero trips to the line last gm… Derozan and lowry have been great. valenciunas and davis have each had a good gm.  amir johnson is making shots.  everyone else has been bad.

    We really ought to give ed davis and Jonas (no matter how bad he is on a given night) more minutes as they are the future of the team…  gray got waaaay too many mins last night, just as calderon had too many the prev gm… the momentum from lucas great preseason is lost due to calderons heavy mins…

    this team ought to be looking for a serviceable SF via trade as its clear we had nobody on the wing who is a real NBA player. failing that, raps should just play ross heavy mins, accept the mistakes, and develope this guy (because at least he can shoot and defend)… if this is gonna be another 30 win season, i’d rather do so with guys who represent the future of the team.

    • mountio

      Agree on Ed and JV. Ed looked as good as he has in a while last night. I think he should get more run with KL .. hes exactly the kind of drive and dish PG that Ed needs (and he showed it last night with some good / strong finishes).
      Stagger the god damn subs!! Im good with bringing in Ed early for AB, then bringing AB back with the 2nd unit (which badly needs scoring). This hockey subbing is ridiculus.
      No extended minutes for AA, DM, AG. These guys are scubs and absolutely can not be taking time away from T Ross and JV. These guys are the future – they need to develop against NBA players.
      News flash – we arent going to be a good team one way or the other unless T Ross and JV pan out. Having a slightly better chance at an early season win doesnt matter in the long run!!!
      Ill be at the game screaming at Casey at tonights game if T Ross isnt on the floor..

      • Kujo

        This.  It’s a joke T-Ross isn’t playing.  

    • what the

      who is this Cory guy? wow he got everything right {{{{{RAP OF THE DAY}}}}}}

    • Copywryter

      DD has been great at putting the ball in the hoop. He’s still not showing consistent effort or improvement defensively and is not rebounding.

  • ad

    The game was lost when casey brought in that atrocious second unit consisting of calderon, anderson, mcguire, davis, and johnson in the 2nd Q. That unit has virtually no scoring punch at all. Casey should never use that unit again. Also, why is fucking anderson playing so many minutes? What does casey see in that scrub? Dont understand why gray was in over val in the 4th q. I like casey but his sub patterns were not good today at all. Lastly, this team would be so much better with an above average SF and not an overpaid bench player like fields.

    • Nilanka15

      Totally agree on that 2nd quarter lineup. WTF was Casey thinking?

  • K.J.P

    I think everyone can safely say they are disappointed in Fields so far. Just awful. Only two games in, I know, but C’mon, lol.

  • j bean

    JC and AB are so out of it defensively they can’t be on the floor together to close out the game. When it comes to help you have to be able to anticipate the play but neither one of them has a clue when to leave their man. They may as well not be there. For a defense oriented coach it seems as though Casey has left his roots. When the game is on the line they have seven years of track record that shows AB and JC can’t get it done. The confidence on the Nets just got stronger and stronger when they came down to score at the end of the game and no amount of offense by the Raps longest serving tandem was going to make up for their defensive deficiencies.

  • Arcr19119

    inaugural Brooklyn Nets game … recent troubles in area … brand new home arena … stern in da house.  = over before it started. fix was in. 100%. 

    • Minks77


  • Minks77

    I’m a take a deep breath and remind myself it’s very early. Casey is still figuring out what he’s got and how to best use it. I hope to see him reign in ineffective lineups and shorten rotations accordingly soon. The 2nd unit was gangbusters all preseason and in the opener but was garbage vs BKN and left out far too long. DC is not a fan of “stemming the tide” it seems and prefers to let guys work through things early. 

    Key word is early. 

    Here’s hoping that Ross and Vala get it together, Bargs finds his rhythm and landry can build off his performance last night.  

  • JHP

    So exactly how bad do they have to be to get a top 3 pick ?

  • Nilanka15

    Is it too early to call Sunday’s game a “must win”? Lose to Minny, and an 0-5 start to the season looks very likely.

    • Lorenzo

      Dallas game is winnable

  • Canadian Paul

    Can we trade Bargnani? Sweet Baby Jeebus, is he bad defensively! Please give the minutes to Amir and Davis already. The 1 or 2 three-pointers that he’ll give you every game are compensated by horrendous rebounding and defence. It’s clear as day now that those 13 games last year were an aberration, and not the new Bargnani. F*cking Colangelo…

    • j bean

      They have their pg of the future now. What about the pf of the future? Davis looked like he was auditioning for more time and doing a nice job. Bargs looks like he needs less minutes so…..

      • cesco

        You forgot what happened in the second quarter when the second unit with Davis in it was failing miserably and the Raps lost the lead ? . That is were the game was lost because that second unit lost a 6 points lead and the Raps were never able to go ahead again . The score was  100-103 with 20 seconds to go and those 6 minutes in the second quarter with the second unit playing was the only time the Raps were outscored .

        • j bean

          And Andrea played wonderfully

        • what the

          YES CESCO your boy dribbles was running that unit please tell me why is he still here, JL3 needs to be running the second unit and not dribbles who looks like he just going through the motion.

          • minks77

            Jl3 looked terrible last night

            • what the

              thats because Dribbles was out there with him, i really believe  JL3 can pick up where KL left off we don’t need to use EL SABATOUR DRIBBLES for 21 mins.  

            • Copywryter

              Definitely. He looked terrible in Chicago too except playing garbage minutes against other second units. I don’t understand the enthusiasm. 

        • j bean

          The game was lost in the second quarter? I guess if you’re down 6 in the second quarter there is no way to come back. Maybe if Bargs helped get some stops inside instead of being abused in the paint maybe then I could see you blindly adoring him but you continuously overlook his faults and point to others for the loss while Andrea is excused for his play.

          • cesco

            I never , never said that Andrea is a good defender only that he is a good one on one defender , good at boxing out , and helping at the periphery . If he was good at helping out inside and rebounding he would be a max paid player , unfortunately he will never become that kind of player .

            • j bean

              He is the kind of player that should be on the bench when you need stops at the end of the game.

          • CJT

            Humphries had 5 boards, and 5 points?  How did he abuse AB?  Let me guess you are going to blame AB for bad help D or something?  Come on. 

            • j bean

              Exactly. That was my criticism that he doesn’t have a clue when to leave his man [Hump] and help with Lopez. When the team was desperate for a stop he was never in position to help where it was needed. Hump never needed to score in order for them to secure the win, he just had to play with Barg’s mind and keep him from where he could have tried to make a difference defensively.

    • Yourelax

      Honestly, in two games thus far I think one stat really stands againsts us.

      The ref officiating stat. In both games there were key blown calls that had ability to change the outcome.

      Something fishy


      • Nilanka15

        Or it could just be a reflection of our jumpshooting ways.  How do the points in the paint stats look?

  • KJ-B

    Casey is letting his “assistant coach” nature/heart muck up games for these Raps! What on earth is Dominic McGuire/Alan Anderson/John Lucas doing on the court????

    What on earth????  I don’t care “how hard they work in practice” — hard work is a talent but it doesn’t make up for lack of talent… NONSENSE!!!!

    As per suggestions of DeRozan/Davis finding “simple” success in playing to their strengths–if it were that easy then everybody would be an ALL STAR in the L! 

    Mike James might not have been as talented as Lowry but they’ve got a lot of similarities from game/personality on the court/ball hogging… #’s are great but I prefer decision-making that leads to w’s… We’ll see if Kyle is more concerned about getting his or winning…

    • KJ-B

      “doesn’t make up for lack of talent (i.e. elite skills)”

    • Matt52

       If my PG can give me 47% fg, 40% 3pt, and 86% ft along with 28 points, 8 assists, 8 rebounds, 3 steals, and a block, I am going to be happy as a pig in shit.

      Issues with Lowry last night:
      1) turnovers.  There were a couple that were dreadful. 
      2) The play at the end of the 2nd quarter where he made a shit pass (although Bargnani hardly put up a fight to stop Wallace from getting by him) then he took an ill-advised 3pt shot which only compounded the mistake.  Other than that play, I don’t think any reference to Mike James is warranted.

      • what the

        holy f guy what our leader did last night counter those 5 turn overs you’ve been watching Dribbles too long

        • Matt52

           holy f guy, maybe you should read my post again.  I thought Lowry played great minus a 1 minute lapse in judgement.

          • what the

            my bad…sorry lack of a player like KL on the raptors team for so long just make me a little touchy when i hear bout turn overs, i know Dribbles doesn’t turn the ball over much but KL brings a lot more

            • Matt52

               No worries. 

              I am loving Lowry.

              • CJT

                holy f guys, I like him too.

                • what the

                  lets all hug

      • Daniel

        Individual stats make you happy? You think there is no corelation and/or causation between individual stats and team’s record?

        • Matt52

           Lowry made 1 bone head sequence of errors in his 34 minutes of play.  Raps are not even in this game without him. 

          But oh wait, aren’t you the poster who has the man-crush on Calderon?  You know, Jose.  The same Jose Calderon who was the starter in 108 of 121 games played on a Raptors team that had a .304 win percentage the last 2 seasons?  While Lowry, on the other hand, was the starter in 109 of 122 games played on a Rockets team that had a .520 win percentage the last 2 seasons playing in a much tougher western conference.


          • CJT

            what exactly are you trying to say?

            • Matt52

              That Jose’s style of play has not led to much success in Toronto whereas Lowry’s has been a part of more success elsewhere.

              *I’m sorry but I’m confused about this… I am sensing sarcasm but right now I feel like Sheldon on the Big Bang Theory and unsure how to respond to it*

              • what the

                you said it right, Dribbles has to go the keys has to be pass on to KL the dude can play 40 mins. and JL3 can handle a bit

          • Daniel

            You are comparing apples to oranges, our roster with the Rockets’ roster.

    • Nilanka15

      DeRozan > Lowry, right?


      • what the

        noway, but i think he’ll be better than GARY FORBES

    • Dcoghina

      Good post. The problem is that Casey has no talented players to replace the ones you mentioned. All this stuff with internal competition is code word for a bad roster at NBA level. In NBA top talent wins. Period.
      I expected Lowry to be like TJ, Jack or Bayless. Based on the first 2 games it seems that he is more like Mike James or Monta Ellis. He is incapable of running an offence or running a PnR. He is freezing out our most potent offensive player. I haven’t seen one PnR with Jonas. He’s not passing the ball with purpose, he’s dumping the ball to a teammate when he doesn’t have a shot, a la AI. He is the offence while he is on the court. His defence is bad. Hill applied the 1-2 knock-out punch in the last minute of the game with Lowry on him. Williams did whatever he wanted the last 4′ of the game. He’s gambling a lot, he’s blowing defensive assignments and picking up stupid fouls. He is indeed as advertised: an obstinate player, ready to get his against team play, easy to frustrate during games thus unable to manage the game. In other words, just what streetballers love about b-ball players. He is best suited as an energizer off the bench, which seemed to be the conclusion of every other organization that employed him before us. 

      • j bean

        And Jose played wonderfully….

      • mountio

        Wow .. I know you love jose .. but this rant on KL is taking it to another level. Wow ..

      • cesco

         +1 , I don’t mind if Andrea get fewer shots but 12 shots in 34 minutes of  play from your best scorer is a little bit low .

        • j bean

          He is no longer the best scorer. 12-15 shots is about right coming off the bench.

        • Matt52

          he is NOT the best scorer lowry is. you should stick to your stupid “he doesn’t get paid enough, he is a bargain” because that is the only leg you have to stand upon, 

          you stupid lousy biased italian cunt.

          • Lorenzo

            Get a life, ffs you really have nothing better to do?

            • Matt52

               Yeah, that was not me.

      • what the

        “It seems that he is more like Mike James or Monta Ellis” bud i would take any one of those two over Dribbles, i love our leader and i can’t wait until he takes full control over this team and bring the level of intensety to start and fin games to NBA LEVEL not this Euro level and intensty we have been under with Dribbles in charge

      • FAQ

        Yup… looks like Lowry can only play b-ball if he has the ball in his hands.  So typical of streetballers… and now Casey will have to ‘teach’ Lowry how to play ‘team’ b-ball.

        Good luck, Casey……!

      • ad

         I cant believe all the hate against lowry. WTF is wrong with you people? Lowry is the best raptor since chris bosh. In fact, he might even be a better all around player than bosh! Yeah, he as some flaws but all players do. I for one love watching him play.

    • Jamshid

      “Mike James might not have been as talented as Lowry but they’ve got a lot of similarities from game/personality on the court/ball hogging… #’s are great but I prefer decision-making that leads to w’s… We’ll see if Kyle is more concerned about getting his or winning…”

      Nicely Said. He is definitely much more talented than Mike James but we have to see if his talents and his numbers do actually lead to wins. Glen Davis, is putting up huge numbers at Orlando right now but do they mean wins ??
      The question that should be asked is does this team:
      Lowry, DD, AB, Big Val and Fields …

      Can compete and win ??

  • paul

    you can bitch about gray all you want, but…he PLAYED his game. He stopped inside bleeding. He set picks. He allowed others to succeed.
    He was 1 for 2 shooting because they blocked a ball that was delivered late while he was standing open…the words of the TV announcers, friend, not mine.

    you have amir thikng he is an actual offensive option. NO..Amir…ONLY IF the clock is about run out.
    Yo have Jonas setting picks like he is: 1) Afraid his balls are going to get hurt. 2) He sets the pick far away from the need AND leaves before it was set…Almost as if his roll is more important than the pick.
    Look…anybody can be fast at the p&R IF you never set it before you take off. ONLY it benefits nobody!
    The guards have no idea when they will get the call…or why.

    Casey…get this team settled.
    Get then to understand their rolls and DO THEM.


    • I agree, what’s up with JV and his picks. He is supposed to be known for this shit. He is leaving to fast and not setting a proper hard screen.

      • Lorenzo

         Its called a fade. It works, but Jonas doesn’t look at the ball when hes running towards the rim, so KL doesn’t pass. Its pretty noticeable

        • Just setting a simple screen, he doesn’t create enough contact with the defender to roll. You telling me Jonas is fading on every screen he does and thats why Lowry is getting chased into corners by big men.

  • 511

    Thought DeMar played a good ‘everybody stfu’ game. No question in my mind that he’s better than he was last year. And he’s young; he’ll get better, still. Who the f else we gonna get with the kind of talent he’s showing for near that money? And someone we’ve grown, who wants to be here? Starting to think that new contract was more smart than not.  

    FAQ’s gel thing has some merit, imo. There’s talent on this team, more than a few might be feeling right now. A bit of re-shifting plan and focus here and there, some better balance on the attack (Bargs is being underused right now for example) and this team’ll be ok. I think, anyway. 

    Must get tiring for these guys to see calls going against them so often (over the years), just enough to make it *that* much harder to win. Like last night. Wish they’d square that shit away, once and for all. 

    • Copywryter

      As I posted above, Demar’s still not playing good defence (either man or help), doesn’t rebound, and doesn’t do many of the little things. If his jump shot doesn’t go down he’s merely a middle-of-the-road two. 

      I disagree with your assessment that there is talent on this team. Lowry is showing us what talent looks like – and how we’ve lacked it for years. We’re mediocre-to-good at the 2, dead at the three, defensively porous at the 4, and green at the 5. Unless JV is a stud (jury is still out) I don’t see too much development potential. Amir, DD, Bargs – they are all what they are going to be. 

  • Max

    Aaron Grey was putting  muscle on Lopez better than the other bigs. That is why we was on the floor. Can’t miss layups one foot away though, really hurts the team.

  • frankthetank

    The raps are playing 4 against 5 the first two games.  The 3 spot is averaging 2 point a game over the first 2 games.  THey need at least 10 points of production from that spot to win games.  BC has done a horrible job of finding someone at the 3 spot and there is no excuse.  We could have drafted Chandler Parson last year in the second round and this year we could have drafted Crowder in the second round.  Both are better shooters then we have and better players then we have at the 3 spot currently.  Both are about 6 million cheaper.  BC really has no clue how to get a good player to play small forward.  Turk, kleiza, fields etc.  thats about 20 million dollars hes spent and were still looking for a quality small forward.  If he can’t find some one there he should be fired.  Fields has another 5 games before I write him off as a moron signing. 

  • frankthetank

    Couple observations about home court advantage.  Raptors had no home court ref advantage in there home opener while the nets got a huge home court advantage.  Fouls 31 called against raps and 19 against nets.  I watched the game and have to say the NBA refing is terrible as ever.  THey ref based on reputation and who’s attending the game.  THis game was going to be taken away from the raps no matter what they did.  Stern with all his reputation still has one of the most inconsitent refs in all sports.

  • Lorenzo

    DeRozan played really well last night, hopefully he can stay consistent. What’s up with the minute distribution though? When you have a guy that’s that hot, you play him!

    • what the

      WOW!!! that coming from Lorenzo, now all i need is to hear that from Charles Brakley and Nilanka

      • Lorenzo


        • what the

          It’s nothing I just notice that you are loving DeMar today