Golden State Warriors 114 Final Recap | Box Score 102 Toronto Raptors
Ed Davis, PF 37 MIN | 5-12 FG | 2-3 FT | 9 REB | 3 AST | 1 STL | 3 BLK | 1 TO | 12 PTS | -19Went on an offense/offense binge against David Lee early, but as the game dragged on his shots stopped falling, while Lee’s continued to. He’s always had trouble guarding sweet-shooting bigs, and tonight was no exception. I’m not always a fan of plus/minus, but -19 is pretty damning, especially when all the other starters are -2.
Landry Fields, SF 13 MIN | 1-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 2 PTS | -2Liked the floating jumper he hit early in the game, but was invisible for the most part until he left at the half due to the flu. Should really probably be an incomplete.
Aaron Gray, C 32 MIN | 9-12 FG | 4-4 FT | 10 REB | 1 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 22 PTS | -4A career game for him thanks to some tough offensive rebounding and a surprisingly nice touch. That said, when he leads your team in scoring on any given night, that doesn’t bode well for your chances. I have a few guiding principles for my grades, though, and when Aaron Gray gets you 20 and 10, he gets an A+. It’s all about expectations.
Jose Calderon, PG 35 MIN | 4-13 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 7 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 11 PTS | -4Finished with a decent stat line due to a brief hot streak in the 3rd that kept the Raps in the game, but was really cold early in the game made some uncharacteristically poor decisions with the ball.
DeMar DeRozan, SG 36 MIN | 7-18 FG | 7-8 FT | 0 REB | 9 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 21 PTS | -4Made some great decisions with the ball early, as evidenced by his career-high 9 assists, but forced the ball a bit too much at the end of the game, and continuously left Klay Thompson open on the outside, which is defending Golden State 101. He’s clearly establishing himself once again as our top scoring option, but tonight was a good example of how that doesn’t breed a winning team.
Amir Johnson, PF 24 MIN | 4-6 FG | 1-1 FT | 5 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 9 PTS | +1Did his thing in the flow of the offense and got shredded by Lee on D (so did Davis, to be fair). Left early in the fourth after banging his head, which was unfortunate because he was the only thing keeping the lane clear in any way, shape or form.
John Lucas, PG 14 MIN | 1-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 3 PTS | -9Got exposed tonight in extended minutes with Lowry out, dribbling far too much, for no reason, on offense, and being such a liability on defense that it seemed like the Raps had to switch to a zone just to hide him. Hard to blame him on a night when he’s forced to play out of his role, but the Raptors noticeably suffered with him on the court, even with Jose having an off-night.
Alan Anderson, SG 26 MIN | 2-11 FG | 6-7 FT | 4 REB | 2 AST | 3 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 11 PTS | -6Did a good job getting to the line early, which he should have continued as the game went on, but chose not to. He’s typically one of the prime culprits when the Raptor offense breaks down into long jumpers, and tonight was no exception.
Terrence Ross, SG 23 MIN | 5-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 11 PTS | -13His hot and cold streak continues, as tonight he had plenty of open looks and was just unable to hit until it was too late. He’ll still get playing time due to his tenacious defense, but he should take a cue from Anderson and take the ball to the hoop to get his jump shot going if needed.
Dwane Casey Did a decent job managing a depleted lineup (Gray’s big game helped), but eventually a coach has to take some responsibility for the team’s offensive breakdowns. Only one field goal attempt in the paint in the fourth until there were 3 minutes left (and the game was over) is just not acceptable.

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  • ppellico

    of course you don’t want gray scoring like that.
    but this is what i have been repeatedly saying about amir…but you don’t give him the same responce or reasoning. instead you give him cheering and want more.
    no….you don’t want these two being the big score leaders.
    When these two guys are your scoring leaders…you have real big big issues!
    so stop cheering amir on to do  have to be this way.

    • Amir is more athletic, can actually finish and hit the outside jumper. Plus, he has created a great on-court relationship with Ed with his interior passing. 
      What the hell is up with you and Gray, do you give him BJs after the game? Where you one of the fans in the crowd chanting MVP for him.

      • Amigo

        Ed Davis = A+ 
        Another big night for our Top 10 PF in the League. 12 shats to make 12 points. (-19) A constant presence in the PAINT (!) , I got wet when had that move like D12. Like ” Are you talking to me ? ” Yes Juliette.That’s what I m talking about.End of Story

        • Destro

          Wait til he gets dealt and hes putting up 18/10s regularly….

          Its coming…

          • Nilanka15

            I’ll gladly take that bet.  Unless he’s traded to another lottery team with a shallow front court, Davis won’t be playing 30 mpg.

          • Sig

             18 and 10 !!??


            • Nilanka15

              lol, I know. 

              18 and 10 is Duncan, Cousins, Jefferson, Randolph, Horford, Lee, Love, Monroe, Griffin territory.

              Davis in this class?  Not in a million years.

              • Destro

                You put him with a decent 5 and he plays absolutely….Im sorry but outside of Duncan and Randolph that list is hilarious….The rest is not much to aspire too…

                • Destro

                  PER 36 numbers

                  55 % FG  14.5 points 10 boards 1.5 blocks

                  Yea real stretch….BUt you’d rather he be a full stat whore like Al Jeff or Kevin Love 20/10 meaningless numbers on losing teams with high shot volumes and guys who absolutely suck on defense…

                  Yea he aint that WOEFUL category….

                  Ill take your arguments seriously when you actually learn the difference between elite power forwards and stat stuffers…cuz clearly you read box scores and nothing else….

                • Nilanka15

                  “Meaningless numbers on a losing team”

                  Yup, that would never describe Davis, lol.

                • Nilanka15

                  This is right up there with your “DeMar is a top-5 athlete” silliness

                • DumbassKicker

                  LOL, the guy who constantly criticizes others for using stats is using Per 36 stats to “prove” his point. Hilarious.

                  PS. As much as I enjoy seeing the progress Ed has made on the offensive end, and appreciate the work he must have put in to get there, you’ve got to get over this fantasy that Ed’s defense is good. A few plays a game don’t make a great defender. More often than not, Ed’s like a dear caught in the headlights when it comes to rotations, which is why Casey rarely has him on the floor during crunch time. Ed’s bouncing around on the spot trying to figure out where to go, and more often than not being too late to decide, is something he really needs to work on.

    • Dabosskwasia

      Does Aron gray pay you to comment on him?…..LOL jks aside he did have a very nice game today

  • Doc

    ESPN is reporting that talks between Toronto and Memphis are heating up for Gay. As a Raptor fan I do not want this trade to happen. Colangelo’s quick fix trades do not end well (O’Neal, Marion). I would rather keep Davis and if they trade Ross Im out on the Raps.

    • Jamshid

      Rudy Gay trade will be the final bullet in the Skull for this team … New GM and new management will be shackled for years to come !! Right now, they are talking about Jose+ Ed for Gay … Lets hope that this trade does not happen and if it does, we don’t lose more talents for Gay.

    • Dabosskwasia

      because ross and davis are helping us win soooo many games right O.0

      • Doc

        Its not about winning now dumb ass. Thats the thinking that sets the Raps back in their development every time.

        • Dabosskwasia

          so Im guessing ross and davis are going to become all-stars right doc ? and lead the raptors to the playoffs lol you sound like Matt devlin stop your noise no player on this team has the talent to be elite holding on to them so the can be overpaid borderline starters  is whats been plaguing this team…Rudy Gay is better then EVERBODY on this team don’t lie to your self  o.0

          • ad

             Gotta agree with Dabo. The only untouchable players on this roster should be lowry and val. The rest can be had for the right price. None of the raps young players other than val have high upside which this team desperately needs. Ross and Davis are very likely to be role players. Having said that, I would not deal BOTH of them in a package for gay unless raps got another significant piece back. I would prefer to package ross with bargnani in a separate transaction for a pf upgrade. Maybe utah for al jefferson? They need backcourt help so they would probably like ross. I know im probably dreaming though.

            • mountio

              lowry? far from untoucable .. and in fact likely at the top of the list of someone to get traded 

            • Hound

              Lowry didn’t play last night because he is getting traded today! Book it!

              Oh yeah, and good riddance!!!!!!

          • Doc

            Rudy Gay is not elite. He has only averaged over 20 ppg once in his career and that was 20.1. This year he is shooting a sparkling 40% and 30% from 3 and averaging 17 ppg. He has never been an All star. He is the 20th highest paid player in the league making 16.5, 18 and 19 mil the next 3 yrs. if Memphis can trick someone into taking that contract they should consider themselves lucky.

            Ross and Davis may never be all stars but neither is gay.

            • DumbassKicker


              This love affair with Gay is mind numbing. The guy’s shooting efficiency has been steadily dropping the last few years, not just a month or two, and as you say is down to 40% and 30%, in his 7th year he’s still not a great defender, yet many of the same people who’ve been shouting that BC better not go for some quick fix, are screaming to get gay at those insane prices, whatever players it costs. Bipolar insanity.

          • Destro

            Rudy Gay is better NOW at an exorborant price that hamstrings your cap space….

            and he wont make this team signifigantly better because hes not an all star/elite player..hes just better than what we have now…

            Kill your future for a player that doesnt make you a playoff team…smart fans in this town !

          • The Truth

            Rudy Gay is better, but he is still not worth the ridiculous deal he is on that would prevent us from surrounding him with anyone else after we trade away our youth to get him in the first place.

            • Nilanka15

              Get rid of DeRozan’s and Bargnani’s contracts, and boom, cap space regained.

              • The Truth

                 Funnily enough, in the real world you have to convince someone to take them. Nobody wants either of those clowns on their multi-year deals the way they are playing right now.

                • Nilanka15

                  So you’re reason for not acquiring Gay is because we won’t be able to trade DeRozan and Fields.

                  Are you saying you’d rather have a roster with DeRozan and Fields, rather than DeRozan, Fields and Gay?

                • The Truth

                  No, my reason for not acquiring Gay is he is significantly overpaid for what he brings and as a result limits the little financial flexibility we have remaining (especially in this proposed trade where we lose our biggest expiring contract).

                  Your proposed solution to this is “just trade Bargs and Demar” to which my response was who is going to want them? You apparently didn’t have an answer for that.

                  Instead you responded with a rhetorical question about Demar and Fields (who I didn’t mention at all). In answer to that however, yes, adding Gay does on paper make the team better in the short term maybe we sneak into 8th and get Colangelo’s contract renewed (even that level of improvement is theoretical, it’s based on assumption that a Lowry/Lucas PG lineup is going to be able to keep the offense going – I could actually see us going backwards). Yay.

                  In 3 years time though we will be paying him 20 million and still be on the treadmill.

                • Nilanka15

                  Even if we don’t acquire Gay, we’re stuck with DeRozan and Bargnani.

                  Are we saving our cap space for free agents knowing that Toronto is never a desired destination for anyone of significance?

                • The Truth

                  What happened to your fool proof plan of “Get rid of DeRozan’s and Bargnani’s contracts, and boom, cap space regained.”?

                  Not being able to attract free agents doesn’t mean you trade for the highest contract/lowest reward guy available “just because”.

                  I know moving for Rudy Gay will appease some fans in the short term, but they will be the same people crying poor in 2-3 years when we still haven’t really shown any significant improvement.

                • DumbassKicker

                  “You apparently didn’t have an answer for that.”

                  The change the subject tactic seems common around here.

                  This “just move Bargs and DD” solution fits well with signing Millsap to a big contract too, because he’s chomping at the bit to come to Toronto,,,,,, well maybe if we grossly overpay him a la Gay. That’s the ticket!!! Chew up half the cap space on Gay and Millsap, because they’re sure to make the team a contender.

          • The Truth

             When is Gay going to be an all star exactly? He’s pretty much in his prime right now (certainly on the biggest contract he is ever going to get anyway) and he’s getting worse. not better.

      • Amigo

        Ed Davis is the new D12, can’t you see that man ? Ask Arsenalist, he knows, ya.

        • Destro

          breh just stop talking about basketball and making analogies…ur awful…

      • Destro

        go watch some curling Lil Johnny…

    • Arsenalist
    • What the


    • RapthoseLeafs

      I’d do this trade. Even after 2nd thought.

      Which doesn’t mean I’d be nervous of it falling apart. 
      But … as someone who looks at Odds – and taking into account location (just like real estate) – I can’t see a Star dropping in, during our next future.

      I think Jonas could develop into one. And Ross is definitely a wild card. With Demar needing someone to take away some heat, Gay could be the right tonic.


      At some point in the near future, Toronto has to decide if the team needs adjusting now (pre-Trade deadline), or wait till the Summer/Fall to modify things.

      In my view, if the pre-Trade deadline has a bigger supply of opportunities, then BC should make his moves then. Rogers will more then likely offer more funds to operate – so cash is not a problem. In the right moment, I can see Ted’s baby cry all the way into Luxury Land. On short term of course.

      Certainly … Rudy may be a bust.
      Or he may not. He could be the Leader that the Raptors (and fans) have wished for. He could take the Raptors to Play-off Land … with Raps only 3 losses behind Philly – the defacto 8th spot, depending on Boston’s plans. Never-the-less, the price of admission for this experiment is 37 million.


      If we were to throw out crazy thoughts, I could imagine this:

      Jose/Ed –> Rudy Gay
      Lowry to Boston for 1st Rounder & player
      Then flip 1st Round pick for a young & underutilized PG (Pass first of course). Maybe with a little extra time, Lucas can repeat his Chicago experience. If not, no big deal.
      Then wait till Summer to find an established PG.

      • truth be told

        You like it because you think it will keep Bargnani here.

    • NyAlesund

      We have to trade Davis now. His value is high and he doesn’t cost much. If I had to take Gay I would trade him without thinking. This offeseason we can amnesty Johnson if necessary.

      • Nilanka15

        Agreed.  Trade Davis (a backup PF) while his value is high.

        Gay would instantly be the best SF on this team since McGrady.

    • Nilanka15

      I posted this in the other article, but I
      would make a Calderon/Davis trade for Gay in a heartbeat….not because of some desperate
      attempt to make the playoffs this year, but to shore up a position of
      need for multiple years to come.

      Calderon is an expiring contract.  The likelihood of him re-signing
      here in the offseason is unlikely (IMO), based on how the team has
      constantly tried to replace him over the past 5 years.  Every player has
      a sense of self-worth, no matter how polite/friendly they are.  The
      Raptors have shown that Calderon is expendable year, after year, after
      year, so why would Calderon have any sense of loyalty to the Raptors? 
      It doesn’t make sense, and sounds more like wishful thinking.

      As for Davis, Arse mentioned that acquiring Gay would be a classic
      case of “buying high”.  That may be true, but shipping Davis would be a
      classic case of SELLING high….something the Raptors never do.  Davis
      is not a superstar-in-the-making.  He’s a serviceable backup PF, who on
      most nights, is no different from the limited-ceiling journeyman, Amir. 
      This is the perfect time to trade Davis.  (The last time we sold high
      was Villenueva for Ford 6 years ago).

      As for the crowded wing rotation with
      Gay/DeRozan/Fields/Ross/Anderson, why do folks think no future
      transactions are possible?  We could attempt to trade DeRozan (Gay and
      Ross on the wings next year look good to me).  Chase a guy like Millsap
      this offseason, and just like that, we’ve exponentially improved the
      talent on this team.

      In general, let’s not get too emotionally attached to Calderon, Davis
      (or anyone not named Jonas or Ross).  This team is horrible, and
      outside of these 2 players, nobody is worth holding onto.  Gay is a
      clear upgrade over 95% of our roster. 

      I could envision Gay in Toronto having a similar impact as Harden in
      Houston.  The guy is a multi-talented player just waiting to blow up with
      an offense designed to run through him.

      • Destro

        WTF some of these opinions are crazy….You think Rudy Gay suddenly becomes a top 5 league scorer coming to Toronto ???? You have any idea how much Gay is making…

        Rudy Gay will make the team marginally better but not a playoff team by any means for his contract…its a bad bad deal…Were not talking about an all star player here folks get a grip… 

        • Nilanka15

          “You think Rudy Gay suddenly becomes a top 5 league scorer coming to Toronto ???? You have any idea how much Gay is making…”

          Lol, since when does a player’s salary limit his ability to score?

      • DumbassKicker

        Yup, paying an average of $18M /yr for a guy whose shooting percentages have been on a steady decline for 3 years, to the point that this season is 40% FG% and 30% 3P%, is going to bring the Raptors to the promised land, so let’s ship anybody out, because we can just fill holes with FA stars like Millsap that are lining up to come to Toronto.

        Oh wait, Memphis wants Jonas and/or Ross in the package? You mean Memphis doesn’t just want our discards to save them from such a dumb contract? Who’d have thunk that?

        • Nilanka15

          I made no attempt to prove a Calderon/Davis for Gay deal is at all likely, but was simply responding to the idea that it’s a bad trade for Toronto.

          As for the declining percentages, I blame the situation in Memphis.  I think Gay could use a change of scenery, in an environment where he’s appreciated, and working in an offense designed around him.

          Imagine where Memphis would be today if they had no interest in Randolph thanks to his “declining percentages” in New York???  Players aren’t robots.  Careers can be revitalized.

          “Antonio Davis is just a backup PF in Indiana.  He’ll never be our starting centre, let alone an all-star!”

          • DumbassKicker

            “I think Gay could use a change of scenery, in an environment where he’s
            appreciated, and working in an offense designed around him.”

            Every year except for his rookie year, he takes more FGAs than anybody on the team, but he’s not appreciated enough and needs to be more of a focal point? Shit, he’s on a team that with 2 all-star level bigs, could be a contender, if only the guy taking more shots than anybody else wasn’t shooting at a 40% clip overall, and 30% from 3, but he’s suddenly going to turn it around playing for a doormat team? Makes sense.

            NOT a nice try with the Randolph “”declining percentages” in New York”. That, if you could call it “that” at all, was over 11 games at the beginning of the year,,,,, plus Memphis didn’t take him until those percentages got back up to BETTER than they had been for 6 years while with the Clippers for 39 games.

            • Nilanka15

              SMH at using FGA to determine priority in an offense.

              As for Randolph in New York, way to miss the point (i.e. players can play better in new surroundings).

              • DumbassKicker

                No, you missed the point that you used a ridiculous 11 game sample of evidence of less productivity in an old setting, and the point that Memphis’s “interest” in Z-Bo wasn’t even remotely affected by those 11 games, but everything before (7 years) and after (39 with LAC).

                In Gay’s case, we have 6 years to look at, of having every opportunity imaginable to lead his team, the last 3 years with 2 all-star bigs on his team, and has led them to 1 first round exit in the playoffs. A year earlier, they did better without him. This year he’s extremely inefficient, and the writing is on the wall for Memphis, but you want the Raps to go for the quick fix of taking an extremely overpaid, inefficient player off Memhpis’s hands? Brilliant.

                • Nilanka15

                  See below.

          • RaptorFan

            Funny you mention Antonio Davis….what about our 3rd year PF (ED Davis) who may be included in this deal??  Do you think he will not improve like Antonio did?  Personally I think with some added weight – ED should be even better next year and the year after…..yet some keep saying that he will be nothing more than a backup PF… Everyone knows it takes most big men a while in this league to develop (we gave Andrea 7 years)….

            ED & Amir are good examples of what hard work can do to your game

            I like Gay, but if he cant put up better percentages on a top 4 western conference team….what makes you think he will perform better when he instantly becomes the sole focus of the other teams’ defence (No Randolph, Gasol to worry about)

            My problem is he’s not an All-Star…..I think we should only trade away young players for all-stars – Have we already finished rebuilding??

            • Nilanka15

              I’m not worried about the lack of AllStar selections.  I know Gay has very few limitations in his game.  How many fans/coaches vote for him in an annual exhibition game is beyond anyone’s control.

              I agree that Davis could continue to improve.  But I see limited ceiling there.  His jumper is still sporadic, he’s still out-muscled in the post, he still has weak post-game, and he’s not the greatest of help defenders (when was the last time we saw Davis step in for a charge?).

              If we limit ourselves to only trading players who will never improve….the Raptors will never improve.

              • NyAlesund

                 I agree.
                Davis is a good role player, hence trade him now if the Grizz want him.
                Calderon has many estimators around the league and his contract is perfect for many teams. C’s could be interested in him.
                If Gay joined us would be an upgrade, the guy is talented. With him DD could be traded in order to free up space in SG/SF position considering that T-Ross, Guy, Anderson and Fields are enough to cover the roles, not to mention mister Pietrus. Ross is more talented than DD, he has a reliable shot from deep range, two incredible legs, seems to be more effective on D and most important is a rookie. If we compare him and DeMarr in rookie year I don’t remember nothing in particlur from DD.
                The DD’s trade could give us another pass first PG and pick.

  • tbdand1

    Just me, or did Aaron Gray score on his own basket tonight?

    • Hound

      yep. he had a hell of a night.

  • BCBargnaniJoseCaseyGots2Go!!!

    Newsflash……TRoss does not consistently drive to the hoop because his handles are that tite this- coming off of screens, is how he played in college (I watched his every game during his 2 years at Washington).

    He needs to work on his ball handling that was his biggest negative while in college is that he didn’t attack the rim consistently and that he didn’t create his own shots but he has a smooth jumper plus great hops plays tough defense and can go off on offense at any point in the game.

    Defense is half of the game TRoss played well tonite.

  • truth be told

    Thank goodness Lowry wasn’t available to mess up the team in the 4th.

    • j bean

      Another 4th quarter loss and it stinks. I thought the offensive charge against Amir late in the fourth was a bad call and the Warriors broadcasters agreed. It turned out to be a 4 point swing against the Raptors and they couldn’t get back in striking distance. 
      To bad Lowry wasn’t available as Jose and Lucas never had their A game.

  • Daniel

    This team is dead tired and beaten emotionally. Too many lost games in the 4th and players forced to play outside their comfort zone. I like Amir and Ed however they should be the 3rd and 4th players off the bench. Ross and Anderson’s shot selection is atrocious. Jose and Demar had a lot of front-rimmed shots. More importantly, they play with feet of lead in defense. Above all, Casey is clueless. Again, he let a run in the 4th to go too long with no adjustments. We don’t have confidence we can pull it off. We need some changes and we need them fast.

    • ghotte

      Casey needs to score the bucket and not rely on his players anymore. Can’t let a run like that happen again!

  • j bean

    I’m liking the passing game of DeRozan. That’s 3 games in a row and it adds another dimension that’ll make a big difference for him.

  • Cinga

    Ummm no one else notice that  demar at 6’7 atheltic dude didnt get a SINGLE rebound? wow. 

    • Dabosskwasia

      he had  9 assists like really?……save those comments for the 7’0 pasta eating emotionless self elected “best player” 

  • multibarg the great/the shield

    Love it up brohammers. We need the king back. Hows everyone’s hero, Alan Anderso? Chucker weems 2.0. We need the king for his superior man defense and scoring firepower. Trade derozan and Lowry for gay, and get the great king bargs back. Dero will never be better than king t Ross, lets clear the way now. #f5fury

    • Sig

       I defnitely completely agree with this 107%.

    • SukaTori

       I defnitely completely agree with this 107%

  • kuzzybear

    All the over-reactors need to take a chill pill. This was supposed to be a rebuilding year – accept the up s and downs of a VERY YOUNG team. The mere fact of their ability to stay close in 90% of their losses bodes extremely well for the future. You have to grow in this league. Let JV, TRoss, DD ,ED and Amir put some real time in together. This team which has injuries has stayed competitive. Remember some previous years when blowouts were common.

    PLease don’t let Colangelo break this group up.

    • The Truth

       Sorry is that a rebuilding year, or an accelerating rebuilding year?

  • FAQ

    Under-deevelopment, discombobulation, desperation, defeat….that about sums it up.

    Now pudgy Lowry apparently is suffering from “back spasms”, like oldtimers Nash and Pierce.. go figure!

    Perhaps he’s being kept in storage for a rumoured trade with Boston… ya think??

    Oh, and when will all the white warriors recover from their injuries and boost the TRaps into the playoffs?

    Mighty strange… mighty strange….

    • RapthoseLeafs

      [” Perhaps he’s being kept in storage for a rumoured trade with Boston … “]

      Calling Oliver Stone.
      Clean-up in Aisle 3


  • Get Rudy gay!!!!!

    GettIng Rudy gay would be a blessing, let Rogers and Bell spend some cash like they did on the Jays. Rudy gay would easily be our best player and go to guy, with derozen and gay we would finally have competitive wings!!!!!!

    Do it !!!!!

  • Gregast

    DeMar’sgame  numbers two years ago never had assists. His job then was to take the pass and score anyway he could. Often that was at the free throw line after being mugged in the lane. With 2013 Refereeing those muggings are being discounted for reasons unknown.  So this year he has developed a presence about him that has allowed him to draw the defense and dish sweet feeds to his fellow Raptors. Usually for baskets.

    Nice to see his development in this part of his game – truly rewarding.

  • canuck_eh

    We lost to a better team. Lee is incredible, as his all-star nod would indicate. Curry breaks ankles. And the Warriors got an emotional boost from the return of Bogut. They’re fifth in a tough West Conference for a reason.. 

    My one complaint would be that Gray, our best player of the night – this could be the first/last time I write this – was nailed to the bench until 2 mins left in the fourth, and apparently he only made it into the game because Johnson smacked his head. That defies logic.

  • Nilanka15

    To The Truth and Dumbass (ran out of room above):

    How do I know if anyone would take DeRozan and/or Bargnani?  How is anyone supposed to know with certainty without a leaked rumour from credible sources?  All I know is that there are no “untradeable” contracts (see Turkoglu or Arenas).

    You don’t think Gay is worth his contact?  I agree.  But I’m willing to overpay to improve the roster.  We’re currently saddled with a team where every single member of the rotation (not named Davis, Lowry, Jonas or Ross) are overpaid.  Yet we’re balking at Gay who instantly becomes the team’s best player because he’s also overpaid?  That doesn’t make sense to me.

    You’d rather improve our cap situation by maintaining status quo, ending up with a mid lotto pick year after year (keeping in mind this team will NEVER fully embrace a tanked season), not attracting any notable free agents, and hoping for the best?  That doesn’t make sense to me either.