Memphis Grizzlies 88 Final
Recap | Box Score
82 Toronto Raptors
Amir Johnson, PF 24 MIN | 6-10 FG | 4-4 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 2 BLK | 2 TO | 16 PTS | +1

Marred by foul trouble from the start, with some of them being very self-inflicted. We needed him to stay on the court to contend with the physical Memphis front-line and it didn’t happen nearly enough. Decent production while in there and defended Randolph well, but overall, couldn’t keep Randolph’s boards in check. Harsh criticism, I know.

Rudy Gay, SF 39 MIN | 5-15 FG | 1-2 FT | 9 REB | 3 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 5 TO | 13 PTS | -5

Is it just me or does it seem like he’s playing at 50% effort? Combine that kind of effort throughput with jack-mode and you get a horrid 0-can’t even remember start and a game where it was him against his old team, not the Raptors versus the Grizzlies. Basically, he cost us this game with his terrible shooting, high turnovers, and zero playmaking.

Jonas Valanciunas, C 18 MIN | 1-3 FG | 4-4 FT | 6 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 6 PTS | -7

Good showing early, but after picking up his third foul (a totally stupid one where he butt-bumped Randolph), got shown the bench and was rarely seen. Still, I thought the Raptors could’ve played him more just to keep the rebounding under control.

Kyle Lowry, PG 36 MIN | 3-10 FG | 4-5 FT | 7 REB | 4 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 12 PTS | -1

Didn’t disrupt Conley enough for me on defense, and didn’t provide enough continuity in the offense. This one is more on Casey than anything, because our play design is very poor and I don’t recall a single instance where a Raptors big posted up. The court balance is a little off and too Gay/DeRozan-heavy.

DeMar DeRozan, SG 36 MIN | 1-9 FG | 5-6 FT | 3 REB | 5 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 7 PTS | -7

That sweat you saw on DeRozan’s face belonged to Tony Allen. Got off to a very rough start, no doubt Allen was playing off of the “best two-guard comment”. Settled in eventually when he discovered the free-throw line, but picked a bad night to shoot poorly since Gay was terrible. Some of his fadeaway decisions are playing right in the hands of the defense, and he’s got to know that Memphis will clog the lane on a drive, forcing him to make a play (so pick out options before you even put it on the deck).

Landry Fields, SF 5 MIN | 1-3 FG | 1-2 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 3 PTS | -5

Came in for a bit, hit a jumper, drew a charge and sat back down. Doesn’t provide enough of anything to warrant minutes, and now that we’re committed to Gay, can’t see his minutes increasing.

Aaron Gray, C 14 MIN | 1-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 6 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | +5

I recall him being effective whenever he was in. Defended Gasol well while he was in, and you can easily make a case for more minutes for him against the Memphis frontline.

Andrea Bargnani, C 22 MIN | 0-4 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 0 PTS | -9

I need to have my head examined for thinking he can be a scorer off the bench. With Johnson and Valanciunas in foul trouble, needed him to step up tonight and he was not a factor. Randolph and Gasol aren’t exactly mobile, Arthur’s a bit better, but Bargnani had to take advantage of those guys whenever he got a touch and he was very passive. Decent defense believe it or not, especially when the Raptors were playing four guards plus him.

John Lucas, PG 12 MIN | 1-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -3

Setup Anderson on his threes in the fourth, but much like Lowry, I was hoping he’d disrupt the Memphis backcourt a little with some pressure. However, that usually comes from the coach.

Alan Anderson, SG 19 MIN | 6-7 FG | 3-3 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 19 PTS | +1

Fourteen straight points in the fourth quarter to make this a game again, including a four-point play. Provided the spark at just at the right moment and you would’ve thought he had set it on a tee for the “big guns” of Gay and DeRozan to take over. In hindsight, he probably should’ve just continued shooting.

Terrence Ross, SG 14 MIN | 1-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | +10

Three-point shooting is what we need for him. Three-point shooting is what he fails to provide. Now that the focus of the season has shifted (rightfully or wrongfully) from development to fighting for a playoff spot, I can’t see him getting free minutes any more. Tough ask of a rookie to produce threes off the bench, but hey, that’s the position he finds himself in.

Dwane Casey

The insistence of going through Gay even when struggling shows a very thin offensive playbook. For the most part other than Gay, got the team to show up for this one and had them battle back, so some credit needs to be given though. Limited zone tonight since the concern were the bigs inside (both had poor shooting) and not the shooters, and it paid off relatively well. One complaint I have is the way the Raptors “show” the double-team from the guard, while the guard’s man drifts to an open spot. There’s no rotation happening and it leaves Memphis wings open.

Four Things We Saw

  1. Both teams shot poorly in this game (36% each) and you knew all it was going to take was somebody to catch fire for the Raptors to come back. The difference was execution down the stretch and the Raptors had zero of it.
  2. Offensive rebounds in the fourth quarter were 6-0 for Memphis. Kind of expected when Bargnani played half the quarter in a four-guard formation, and Johnson being bulldozed by Randolph.
  3. The Raptors desperately need some passing from their big men because there are many opportunities being missed when Valanciunas, Gray, and Johnson have that ball at the elbow and there’s guard movement. All three combined today had zero assists.
  4. Points in the paint were 28-18 Memphis, a telling stat of their interior dominance (especially, off the offensive glass).

  • GoingBig

    Enjoyed your comments but a web-glitch shows A+ for everybody

    Rudy Gay – he’s got to know when there’s too much defence on him and respond by passing the pill out. Too much pressure and he gets tunnel vision

    • arsenalist

      I had that on there for 10 seconds.  All fixed.

      • pran

        *head examined, for andrea bargnani.

        • arsenalist

          Thanks.

  • IC

    Gay had this coming. Those two big game winning shots aside, the only reason the Raps have been winning lately is because of unsung heroes like JLIII and Anderson stepping up to hit big threes when we’ve needed it. I like Gay when he’s not forcing the game and letting it come naturally to him, but on nights like tonight, he singlehandedly fucked shit up for us when all of a sudden and seemingly out of nowhere, the game became winnable in the 4th. He comes in, takes looks away from more efficient shooters and presto, we’re back in the hole, thanks to his 5 turnovers. Granted, this was against a solid defensive team that knows how he plays inside and out, but he had no reason to try and be the hero at the end of the game.

    • Al

      Agree with everything you just said.  JL III and AA deserve a little more credit than they’ve been given lately and I would say the exact opposite for Gay and Lowry.

      • Al

        It was probably a real emotional game for RG actually, so I guess I’ll cut him some slack.  Hopefully he gets his shit together and takes down the Knicks on Fri.

    • ARDEFEN

      And also because of Amir’s solid, consistent, high efficiency effort

  • colef5

    Casey deserves an F tonight. He had brutal play calls, insisted on Gay despite Gay not performing. His bigs rotation was bad, we should’ve saw more Valanciunas and less Bargnani. The only reason this one was close was Anderson going off, we played brutally from start to finish. Casey can’t be credited at all here; the score was not indicative of this game. He seems to have zero clue how to run offensive sets. The only play they run is one big has the ball at the three point line and everyone meets on the elbow, drawing their defenders, and one of Gay or Derozan escapes to then get the ball in an iso situation. Thats our only play. And when they fail to get open, everyone just stands around. Awful game, awful coaching. 

    • cdub

      Casey clealy earned that B- soley off his ability to motivate guys to show up for the game….actual coaching be damned!

    • tmk

      I turned it off at the second quarter because I it was brutal to watch and had other things to do but the so-called “offence” we were running was pathetic. During the second we got bailed out by some lucky shots but for the 2 quarters I did watch (and the end of the 4th) our offence included running some sort of “play” that essentially resulted in Gay/DD one-one-one. I know the Grizz have some good defense…but damn…it was brutal.

      And to go off on a tangent, watching Gay was equally as brutal. The second he touched the ball you knew it wasn’t leaving his hands. There was a sequence in which he got the rebound and I just knew he’d try to go end-to-end. Which he did. And he got blocked. I don’t know if it’s because of the lack of offensive sets or not, but Gay needs to stop trying to play hero ball every single possession. 

  • FAQ

    This team will never j-e-l-l ….so obvious… Especially with a pudgy street-baller for a PG for which the t.h.fs adore… Rudy did not get it done tonight… perhaps he doesn’t care about beating his old team and just wants to get paid … ya think?!

    • WhiteVegas

      Memphis is 35-18, 4th in the West, and on a 5 game winning streak. Perhaps Memphis is just a better team than Toronto this year? Yeah, that seems more likely.

      • JerryGarcia

        Memphis is a very good team….. recommend you listen to the Face’s recording of the same name. 

    • cdub

      I think he cared a bit too much….played right into their hands.  needs to look to pass when hes got 2-3 guys on him. 

      • Destro

        I think its also this team can be very mentally fragile out there when a team digs into them and bodies them…They rush shots early,they try to go 1 on 5 every possession…

        Grizz looked like that team that knows they can lean on a team and frustrate them and they will just unravel and really even tho it got close thats what the raps did down the stretch…

    • FAQ2.0

      LOL …. took the words right outta my azzhole …. oh, you forgot to mention that Bargs is playing on the wrong team now.

    • onemanweave

       Hey Fax ol buddy, how’s things?  New, interesting take you’ve come up with. Luv it.  ’bout the only pertinent faxt you’ve omitted is that one of the cheerleaders has thick ankles. She’s got to go.  Hanging with one of the better teams in the league in a game where nobody on the Raps was exactly white-hot sure is a downer. Only THF’s could see a glimmer of hope in this lousy season. Life sucks and so do the Raps. Keep up the good work, pal. You’re the only one who sees it like it is — lousy.

  • Al

    Tough loss, but great effort on D.  Anderson was killing it in the fourth (14 straight), why did he have to stop shooting once Gay got on the floor?  Gay’s offence was too obvious and easy to defend against for Memphis, he got baited into traps.  Great D, our bigs fought hard!  Our smaller line up did alright too.  

    • tmk

      The Memphis commentators actually made a remark about how it was good that Gay got into the game because he negated ALAN ANDERSON’S offence. They mentioned how ALAN ANDERSON was killing them.

      • Dbobb28

        Between Gay, Demar and Lowry, this game was lost. All three played dumb and extremely selfish ball. Anderson scored 14 straight points and none of these 3 idiots gave Anderson the ball. At one point, we went 6 straight trips where he didn’t touch the ball. Rudy just played selfish and I’m getting sick of him whining to the officials for a call. He dribbled constantly into double teams

        • FAQ

          Yup …..

        • DumbassKicker

          Some people need to get a clue.

          1. Anderson suddenly didn’t get anymore touches because the Griz sicked Allen on him, who played him so tight, they couldn’t get the ball to him.

          2. You can call Gay and Lowry out for sometimes dumb, sometimes selfish ball, but DeMar played good D, including 2 steals, and upon realizing his shots just weren’t falling, he got to the line, became more a facilitator, netting him 5 assists to Lowry’s 4, and had only 1 TO, to Gay’s 5 from dumbass play.

  • papesow

    Rudy Gay has been clutch in the 4th q at times but has not shot well over all since the trade. People only remember the makes. He forces a lot. Gets in early foul trouble routinely. Today, zero creativity. Driving into double and triple teams never looking to pass.  I would trade Andrea for a swiffer right now so we can mop the floor and protect out studs. He has never looked more disinterested, check ed out out or expendable.

    • Hound

      He played pretty good defence. However, I don’t care who you are, if you have been told for years how great you are, that you are the #1 option, then you suck, we need to trade you, Rudy Gay is the man, you are booed when you come into the game, take 4 good looks and miss them, booed some more, see Rudy taking every fucking terrible shot known to man and then is praised by the coach and media, while everyone tells you again how shitty you are, PERHAPS YOUR CONFIDENCE IS A LITTLE LOW.

      Casey is doing what every shitty coach does, ride his star, get on his knees and prays to his god that the star can mask his poor coaching. Believe me, we are and will be an ugly team to watch until we get a real coach.

      • papesow

        Its easy to blame the coach. He isnt the one with the ball in his hands driving into triple teams. Gay just tried to hard tonight. Not surprisingly. He wanted it too bad. Bargnani has shown what he can do when he wants to. His lack of effort is my biggest problem. He just coasts, and has for most of his career. Do you think he is a magician? Maybe in his rookie year when he was exciting. He needs to go for his career to be rejuvinated. Yes his confidence might be low, and he might be distracted by the rumors, but he only has himself to blame for showing what he could have been for the majority of career as a raptor. I dont even think he sweats because he hardly runs. Would have thought the splinters might have made him a bit more hungry. Nope. Trade him.

        • Hound

          The only way he gets traded is if we take back a horrible contract. We would be much better to amnesty him. That way we can use the money on a good player, not someone else’s mistake (boozer)

          • Guest

            It’s “knowledge” like this that makes RR armchair GMs think they can do a better job.  Even if we amnesty Bargnani, we have over $61 mil committed to 11 players next year.  There is no way to use Bargnani’s $11 mil on “a good player” short of using his contract to trade for one.

            • Hound

              Actually we only have 58 mill guaranteed including Bargs at 10.75. Therefore we would be down to 48.25 in guaranteed, leaving us room to move. We would have the option of not picking up Lowry at 6.75. We also could pick up Kyle if we could trade Kleiza or Gray for a pick.

              From my armchair, the point I am making is keeping and then Amnestying Bargs give us way more flexibility than trading him for another bad contract. Ala, Carlos Boozer.

              You mention that we could trade him for a good player, which is absurdly illogical. We can only trade him for someone else’s problem.

      • ghotte

        Where’s Phil Jackson when you need him?! Red Auerbach?

  • hotfuzz

    Can someone tell Rudy that he is allowed to pass the ball in the 4th Q.

  • Paul

    Enough of this “showcasing” Bargnani nonsense. If we can get Boozer for him, I say do it. Boozer is essentially a one yr rental for next yr, after which he is a huge expiring contract that can be packaged to bring in another piece.

    • ghost

      Boozer has two more years left on his contract after this year at approx. $16M/year.

      • Paul

         Yes.. therefore next year is the rental year, and the following year he is an expiring contract…

        • Dbobb28

          I agree with Paul though. We need rebounding and you can tell Bargnani doesn’t care at all. Even more so than usual

        • Destro

          Your wasting 2 years overpaying and not making the playoffs,not a good decision…

          • Hound

            Boozers defense is worse than Bargs!!! The best thing we can do is amnesty Bargs in the summer and hope someone is available.

            If you want Boozer, wait until the summer when Chicago gets rid of him and pick him up for 5-6 mill 2 year deal

            • FAQ

              BC is going after Telfair… and let DC do whatever he wants with Bargs who has lost his shot, his motivation but not his $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

        • ghost

          You are correct sir, I misread your initial comment. (:

  • Jamshid

    The question that has kept the herd busy after Gay trade is that should BC  ( who the herd is very happy with now) trade AB before the trade deadline or just wait till summer. Majority of the herd think that AB’s value can not become any lower than what is it right now. But if the past two games are any indications, his value is dropping fast even as an option off the bench.
    BC better manage to trade AB before 3 P.M. tomorrow or we have to give up some asset to have other teams take back AB’s contract from us this summer. 

    • Dbobb28

      Right now Bargnani’s stock is going down. BC has the Boozer trade on the table. He has to take it because you are not getting anything better than that. Unless, Utah decides to trade us Millsap, which would be an amazing trade

      • FAQ

        Nobody wants Bargs …. he’s scrapping scrub city now.

        • ghotte

          No one wants him and BC would be stupid to pull a Babcock and give him up for cents on the dollar.

          Boozer, Telfair: Horrible and unnecessary moves. BC had to stand pat regardless of the outcome

    • morons

      don’t worry retard, I still have your words marked down that bc will trade ab + ross by the deadline.

      • Jamshid

        Keep it clean kid or I have to tell your Mama to give you a good spanking when I see her later tonight 😉

    • DumbassKicker

      pfffffft, hate cowards that can’t stand up to individuals that have some grey matter, so run and hide around the corner and spout off about “the herd” over and over. Grow some fn balls and get away from dissing anonymous people through childish name calling behind the fence.

  • hateslosing

    Story of the game is that we need either Gay or DD to score to have a chance. They both stay silent and the offense falls apart. I have no problem with Casey going with them over and over, they are our “stars” and we need them to produce to be successful. Learning experience tonight.

  • DC

    Are you serious casey a b-… WTF game were you watching he was T.E.R.R.I.B.L.E tonight. He got outcoached majority of the game. First of all his offensive sets are hey rudy you take the ball try and shoot or drive, derozan you take the ball here try to shoot or drive or  ill throw a screen in here.  Lowry take the ball at the top of the key wait for the useless pick because he barely ever passes to the guy driving go for the layup or pass it to whoever is outside. When’s the last time we’ve had a good drawn up play out of a timeout? Or a good inbound play? He knows how to coach d but can’t coach offense for shit which makes him a better assistant then head coach in my mind. WTF did he leave take anderson out with 3 mins left to go for derozan whose been cold all night. It was clear as day we needed a big body in there all game and should of seen gray earlier in the game. Casey isn’t a good coach like ive been saying. BC needs to just say fuck it and go all in and trade for boozer were already in salary cap hell mine as well get a pf that can actually help and contribute with boarding and scoring. 

    • cdub

      lol…so true….no adjustments by Casey at all really.  caseys big adjsutment was telling his guys to space the floor in the 3rd quarter.  I’m sure giving the ball to gay or derozan will work on most nights, but Memphis is too good defensively you have to move the ball.  anyway its just a game, most are overreacting as usual, we almost won the game in spite of everything

      • Dbobb28

        Casey deserves a big fat “F”. He has to get an offensive minded assistant coach because we waste 20 seconds dribbling outside the 3. There is no set plays for big men and our in bound plays are AWFUL

        • DC

          yep its beginning to look like this season that Casey is completely over his head being a head coach. What player is gonna want to listen to assitant coach drawing up a play in the huddle? 90  percent of the time these guys are looking into space anyways. 

  • ghost

    DC is the worst coach ever. What the f#ck was he doing playing AA in the fourth quarter. Can’t we waive this bum and use that 900K on someone more useful…SMH!!!

    • Ryan

      you’re an idiot. AA was the only reason we had a chance in the 4th

      • ghost

        You’re an idiot. I was being sarcastic and parrotting some of the other idiots on this site who think he sucks and that he shouldn’t get any playing time because we got emerging superstar TRoss.

        • ghotte

          +1

    • ghost

      And why are we even playing him when we have a potantial superstar in TRoss…Slamma Damma Dunk Champion!

      • SukaTori

         yep!! a potantial superstar

        • ghost

          Really dude…a spelling mistake. Pretty weak.

    • cdub

      when everyone else is playing that bad it’s ok to be AA time

      • ghost

        Sarcasm…see above comment.

  • thatpeterguy

    I am beginning to think this team has finally found an actual identity based on there very tough and gritty play over the past dozen or so games. People keep saying the other teams are having off games against us but how many games in a row can be play tough gritty defense before we get some credit. And losses always sting but losing against a team like this who on paper are a terrible match up for us is not that painful. 

    Oh and as always…Fuck Bargnani. 

    • SukaTori

      Oh and as always… i’m coming

  • Statement

    Rudy played pretty badly offensively, but lets keep some perspective.  Memphis is a (MUCH?) better team than the Raps.

    Let’s not forget that they pasted Detroit by 14 yesterday.

    This game does highlight the fact that we need some variety in our offense.  I thought Landry Fields was supposed to bring this, with the spacing and all.

    I think Arse made a good point about the lack of big passing.  Pau Gasol would have been useful tonight with the guard cuts.

    • Statement

      Sorry , not “spacing” but “cuts” in reference to Fields.

      • Dbobb28

        I definitely agree with you that Memphis is a tough and much better team than the Raptors but there is no excuse for Gay to ball hog like that. If you notice, Memphis would sluff off of shooters sitting at the wing knowing Gay would not give it up.

    • Destro

      Just in general nobody was moving on offense…one of the things about this team thats horrid when they go thru funks they play 1 on 5 the ball doesnt move and nobody is moving,cutting or doing anything…Saw alot of it 1st half…

      • ghost

        I see it every single game.

      • ghotte

        This is exactly why they need Fields playing. There has to be more floe to the offense and Lowry has to be responsible for facilitating that flow.

        Calderon, whatever his flaws, could get cutters some easy baskets. This is what Lowry has to improve on.

        • ghost

          +1

  • grizzly73

    What a come down after a solid run against decent teams.  Memphis second in the NBA on D really showed their stuff. How Rudy D can stink out the joint against his old team is beyond me. Our big 3 RG DDR and KL next to useless tonight. What’s up with our much ballyhooed rookies? JV is good enough to start but not a sniff in crunch time? Not good.

  • knickz

    don’t know if this has been brought up yet but i heard jose was in town over the weekend and told people he would be signing back in  toronto

  • Holycraptors.com

    In other news, Aaron Gray is 21 points away from 1000 for his career. Someone bring a card so we can all sign it for him.

  • guest

    just an outside observer: Raptors have no plays at all…mostly ISOs. Rudy is a volume shooter, not good for the team and also been forcing his shots in the last few games. I am not a bargnani fan…but how can you expect him to score if he does not get touches and shots,  AA and JLIII have more shots and touches for fringe players.  Casey is not a very good head coach. 

  • Guest

    Don’t see much Anderson hate on here tonight…

    • ghost

      LOL…Raps fans are so bi-polar. For 900K/year, he outplays the majority of players on this team on many nights.

      • Nilanka15

        I wouldn’t say “many” nights.  More like “the odd night here and there”.

    • Al

      Cause Anderson is the only one that got hot all night!

    • Dtkipfer

      Anderson still belongs in the d league

      • ghost

        Then so does half the Raptor team.

  • Dbobb28

    Bottom line is that we should be flattered by this score. Rudy Gay- Terrible, Demar Derozen- Terrible, Lowry- Awful, Amir- Foul trouble all night and finally Bargnani- Scoreless. If somebody had told me these five things would happen tonight, I would expect to watch a complete blowout. Valuncunius should have played more and Anderson carried us. Ross has zero lift on his jumper as all of his shots were short. This was a terrible performance

  • Clintc_54

    They really needed to keep AA shooting streak on to stay in the game. That was the only reason they were even close. I think gay was forcing too much tonight. He was really trying to prove a point against the griz and it ended up backfiring on the raptors

    • DumbassKicker

      A guy named Tony Allen took AA out of the game by playing him so they couldn’t get him the ball.

  • Paul

    Its time to step up the Bargnani hate folks.  As a long suffering Raptors fan, I’ve had enough.
    I can’t bear to watch one more rebound fall two feet in front of him. I can’t bear one more missed rotation.  I can no longer abide that blank, mouth breathing stare on his face. If I see his “3 pt fake, 2 pt pull up” one more time, I’m going to hire a hit man. Such is the level of my disdain.
    Colangelo doesn’t want to trade him because his value is so low. I understand the rationale, but it doesn’t work here because I don’t think Bargnani’s trade value can be increased by showcasing him. All this does is create a larger sample size of his futility in every facet of the game (yes he even sucks offensively). More importantly, any alleged showcasing requires the team to play the man, which simply can not be tolerated any longer.
    Seven years ago, the Raptors won the lottery and drafted Darko Milicic 2.0.  Thanks to a narcissistic GM, and a coach (Triano) willing to sacrifice winning to appease  that GM, we have been bamboozled into thinking that Bargnani is actually an NBA player. Bargnani is arguably the worst rebounding big man of the modern era (excluding scrubs that didn’t stick in the League). He is a cancer to any team defense. He is skilled offensively but has the awareness of someone suffering from Alzheimers. 
    Colangelo will never amnesty his number one pick. The only way out of town is by trade. Well it’s time to start forcing his hand. 
    Here are some thoughts on how this might be achieved:
    1)  Bargnani should be booed violently every time he touches the ball (ala Vince, T-Mac and Bosh). 
    2) An online petition must be started to get him out of town.
    3) Boycott all Primo Pasta products
    4) Viral videos of Bargnani being burned in effigy.
    I have loved this team, for better or worse, since VC’s rookie season. My fanhood survived the Mike James era, but enough is enough. If Bargnani is still on this team come training camp, I am done. That’s it. Who will stand with me?
    Come one Raptors fans. For the love of all that is holy. This is our occupy, our idle no more. BARGNANI MUST GO!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Van-Grungy/100000069253213 Van Grungy

       I think Darko Milicic’s career trajectory was completely screwed by being drafted by a team that had no use for him (Det).
      Not a superstar by any means, but Detroit stunted him for 3 years.

      http://stats.nba.com/playerCareer.html?PlayerID=2545

      just saying

    • Jimi

      Colangelo is the problem. Bargnani is just one of the many symptoms. Go ahead, idiots, boo away when he touches the ball, because that will help. And it’s very classy.  

      • Hound

        Couldn’t agree more. Is booing going to help our team win? I don’t think so. Everybody got what they wanted, Jose out for Lowry, SF who can score if he shoots enough, Bargs coming off the bench and they still boo. Be careful what you wish for.

        • knickz

           can never please miserable people

    • NyAlesund

       You deserve the boos not him. Did you see any single play designed for him? Did you see the team simple forget his ability to shoot? I have seen this and you? Did you see him play bad on D? If yes really? I saw the guy prevent Gasol and Zibo to take and offensive rebs, he conceded only one to Zibo, I saw him set two screens for AA that scored 5 points, I saw him not to take a single shot after a few minutes because he was afraid to take it. He committed some defensive mistakes but nothing compare other teammates that you probably are celebrating.
      I don’t understand a comment about his “blank face”. I would like to see you in that position and I am sure you would have had a smile in your face. Happy to hear the boos.
      What did you expect from him? Smile……….?
      Of course you and the fans like you, have only one mission, to boos him and put him in awful situation forgetting that this guy is a Toronto Raptors’ player. Until he is in this organization he has to receive all the support not boos.

      Now everything he is fault, not mention that the teammates prefer to give the ball to Val, even Gray than him. In the meantime when Bargs was sit on the bench, Zibo grabbed several offensive rebs, Gay was a sponge defensively conceding four points at the beginning of the fourth quarter, not mention the tournovers, not mention with Gay in, Anderson simply didn’t get the ball. He was on fire. Not mention DeRozan’s game, not mention the poor ball movements…not mention Casey’s job…………………..all of the problems has to be attributed at the number…………7.

      I agree with you for one thing: Bargs needs to go, for his career. I can’t stand to see him doing nothing offensively, afraid to take a shot, afraid to drive to the rim, forcing him to looks like Gray. This is ridicolous.

      The only thing is: if Bargs remains until the end of the season how many boos we can expect from you? How many boos we can expect from the crowd? This boos really help the team? I don’t think so.

    • DumbassKicker

      Some peoples’ children. Just what Raptorland needs. Another dumbass with anger management problems on top of never having learned about civility and class from mommy and daddy.

  • Yousefelso

    Bargnani was the best defender on the raps today. You guys must have been watching a different game than me. 

    No plays were run all game, just street ball. Ugly to watch.It’s a close game against a better team, heads up. Let’s get the next one.

    • Paul

       Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

    • Al

      I wouldn’t say he was the best defender, among the top on the raps tonight tho.  Bargs actually defended against Gasol and Z-Bo really good in 1 on 1 situations.

  • Doc

    Bargnani played more minutes than JV. Casey gets an F.

  • Hound

    I would like to see someone in the organization try to understand the offensive end of basketball. It actually should be easier to teach than high school or college because of the talent level. It is really a simple concept that I observed again just last weekend when I watched my nephew’s high school team play. They passed the ball, they moved after passing, they moved without the ball, they spaced the floor, they set proper screens, but alas they had virtually no talent. Someone FUCKING explain to me why people who are paid multimillions to play and coach can’t comprehend this very simple, but extremely important concept. Does god given talent sap brain cells?

    Any game with a ball, puck, etc. has only 3 really key offensive principles. Dwayne, please pay attention:

    1) Proper spacing between players
    2) Movement of instrument, puck, ball etc.
    3) Player movement, with or especially without the instrument

    • ghost

      Awesome post!

    • Jimi

      I really believe that some NBA players think they’re too good to be used as decoys, and they get angry when they’re asked to move in any way that isn’t designed to get them a shot. And I think that Gay and Lowry are these kinds of players. 

    • DumbassKicker

      Though I feel your frustration, very good NBA defensive teams have something over high school or college.

  • ad

    Was at the game. Thank god for that scrub anderson. Raps got burned for playing small a lot in the 2nd half. Also, where was val 2nd half? Bargs played too much for what he was doing (nothing). Derozan sucked as usual against a good defender. Really, the raps “big 3 ” of lowry, derozan, and gay all played bad. Especially gay who turned the ball over like crazy trying to play 1 on 5 in the 4th q. Anyways, If Im BC I have to unload bargs and I would use ross as as sweetener. Just so overrated by the fanbase. The dunks are nice and flashy but he doesnt do anything else particularly well. I want to see more from a rookie wing player to make me beleive he’ll be more than just a role player.

    • JerryGarcia

      If I was Val I would have thrown the knee “nudge” in a heartbeat…….maybe slightly more nudgey.

    • gradgrind

      Well put. Any average wing defender covering dd allows the 3 pointers, forces his lanes wide and watches for his short corner move (fake baseline and pro-hop through the paint). I probably wouldn’t trade Ross unless that’s what it takes to move AB since his (TR’s) trade value won’t be higher for some time to come. By the way if Ross doesn’t hit the gym and take an extra 500 – 1000 shots a day the team custodian won’t have to wash his uniform between games.

  • gradgrind

    Seriously Arse… How can you give a player who plays 5 minutes a B. That’s like going to work once a month and still getting full pay. And Ross’s D… Is that like D as in D-League. You need to re-think this report card thing… This kind of crap isn’t your best work…

  • Roarque

    Memphis are a impressively boring team made even more impressively oring by the addition of Mr Prince for now and Mr Davis for tomorrow. I would hate to meet them in the first round.

  • Sangaman

    Bargs never saw the ball from the new crop of  American home boys even when he was hot. Now he is a pariah..And these ball hogs are shooting 20% and jacking up shots like theres no tommorrow.     No offense, no team work.   Pathetic..Please trade the Italian and Valanciunas for another ball hog so I can cheer even louder for teams to whip this bunch of losers

  • Why

    Bargnani was clearly rattled after being booed after missing three early shots in the first sequence he was on as he started to pass up shots – if he is going to be on this team, whether we like it or not,  he needs to be a scorer.

    • Hound

      Booing clearly is not the answer. If you want the Raps to play better, try supporting them. The WHOLE team. Bush league response, unless you want to be like yankee fans.

      Dwayne disappointed me big time last night by putting Gay and Lowry back in at the 5 minute mark with the team down 77 – 75. Big time Rudy came in and at the :34 second mark we had 78 points and AA hadn’t had another shot, nor did he often touch the ball. It is correct, that you can’t blame Casey for every shitty shot Gay attempted down the stretch, but you certainly can blame him for putting Gay back in when he knew Gay was going to take every shot. For God’s sake, Gay is not Kobe, Jordon, Lebron, Dwade or Dirk.

      This idea that Rudy is the savior is fucking ridiculous. He is an upgrade to this team, but we need to play like a team and he needs to buy into that.

      • DumbassKicker

        AA didn’t see the ball again because Tony Allen D’d him up, denying him the ball. Otherwise, great post.

        • Hound

          Actually Tony Allen was already on him when he sunk his 3 and got fouled. The difference was nobody set ball screens for him, because he never got the ball.

          I really hope the coaches do some constructive video analysis regarding the last 5 minutes.

  • canuck_eh

    We lost an exciting game on the end of a five-game winning streak and a back-to-back to a superior team on a hot streak that boasts our Achilles heel – an all-star PF – and the second best defense in the league…  Yeah, Gay had a bit of a stinker, but do you get the feeling the Grizz had some tapes available to preview? AA stopped getting the ball…perhaps you weren’t watching closely, but Tony Allen made it so.

    I am at a loss as to why the complainers and Monday morning QBs on here even bother watching. It’s clear that Bargs is rattled, and it’s not going to get better with the idjuts who boo him when he steps on the court. Though his shots wouldn’t fall and it was clear the ball was a hot potato to him, he played admirable defense against the Grizz’s beasts. Keep him or trade him, I don’t care, but we need him to play well to get value for money, so rooting against him is ridiculous.. 

    • my_azz

      “rooting against him is ridiculous”

      no shiit, eh. brainless twits say it’s their “right” to boo, aka right to harm the team.