Toronto Raptors 101 Final
Recap | Box Score
107 Charlotte Bobcats
Amir Johnson, PF 36 MIN | 3-8 FG | 2-2 FT | 10 REB | 2 AST | 2 STL | 4 BLK | 1 TO | 8 PTS | +4

A bit of a dip in production, and it’s clear he prefers matchups where he’s kept near the rim, and not asked to defend in a stretch-four situation.

Rudy Gay, SF 40 MIN | 8-18 FG | 7-7 FT | 8 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 2 BLK | 4 TO | 25 PTS | -2

Jumper after jumper in the first half, they went in early and were rattling out after. Made the adjustment to be more drive-focused in the second-half and was the initiator of most of the Raptors offense in the fourth before leaving with injury (angkle/knee/back, pick one). Going against a rookie in MKG, I expect a sustained impact on the game, not just in spurts.

Jonas Valanciunas, C 31 MIN | 6-11 FG | 6-6 FT | 8 REB | 2 AST | 2 STL | 2 BLK | 1 TO | 18 PTS | +8

He’s getting more touches in the right block, and is allowed the time to execute his move. One of his better games in pick ‘n roll situations,, no doubt helped by McRobertson much preferring the perimeter. As a pick ‘n roll player, presentation is highly important and his is getting better and better.

Kyle Lowry, PG 38 MIN | 6-13 FG | 5-5 FT | 7 REB | 5 AST | 1 STL | 1 BLK | 5 TO | 18 PTS | +4

Bad first half when he looked detached from the game (can’t blame him), and was out-efforted by Kemba Walker. Struggled making simple reads in transition and half-court, and it wasn’t until the third that you saw at least some level of urgency from him. That’s when he hit a three, got after it for some steals. Too bad he was invisible again in the fourth, and let Walker dictate the tempo of the game. This is not the stuff that starting point guards are made of.

DeMar DeRozan, SG 39 MIN | 7-12 FG | 4-4 FT | 3 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 19 PTS | 0

For a change, you saw him going at an athletic defender who likes to play up-tight and have success. Was the source of the offense in the second half but faded as the game went along. Kind of surprised that he wasn’t involved in the offense in a more deliberate manner. For example, how about some DeRozan/Valanciunas sets? Failed to get back on Gordon in transition for a key Charlotte three, and in the end, failed to make a stamp on the game that a $10M player should make.

Landry Fields, SF 12 MIN | 1-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 2 PTS | -4

He might be a “glue guy” on a loaded team where he’s left wide open by the defense, and anything he does on offense is considered a bonus, but on this Raptors team he has to be more than that. For starters, learn to hit a jumper. It’s the least he could do given the contract we handed him.

Mickael Pietrus, SF 3 MIN | 0-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | -2

Came in to shock the world in the second quarter. I’m convinced Casey pointed to someone else at the bench, that someone wasn’t looking, and Pietrus seized the opportunity to check in. Well done.

John Lucas, PG 6 MIN | 0-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 0 PTS | -9

Was handed the first-half backup-PG shift where he tested his jumper only to find that it wasn’t his night. Three missed threes. He should be a character in a children’s book.

Sebastian Telfair, PG 5 MIN | 1-4 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 3 PTS | -1

Was handed the second-half backup-PG shift. Picked up a needless technical and hit a three. Nice deadline-day trade, really sets us up for next season.

Alan Anderson, SG 12 MIN | 1-3 FG | 2-2 FT | 1 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 4 PTS | -9

Saw him in the second quarter jacking up a contested three, which is when Casey probably realized just how ridiculous it is to give this guy any minutes at this stage of the season. I’ve said it all season, he’s there to get his and is hunting for a contract, which is exactly how he played.

Terrence Ross, SG 17 MIN | 2-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 4 PTS | -3

Poor shooting. He had the looks and has got to make them. This guy needs some serious warm-up time before he starts getting comfortable in the game, and that’s got to change. Looked out-of-sorts defensively as well, and this was a game where you’d bet on him to have a say. Keep giving him time, though.

Dwane Casey

Can’t get the right effort out of this team. One the one hand I understand since this was a brutal game to be a part off, but losing to the Bobcats twice in one year? C’mon.

Five Things We Saw

  1. Charlotte’s bench outscored the Raptors bench 54-13.
  2. Charlotte shot 63% in the second quarter, after shooting only 33% in the first.
  3. Rudy Gay and DeMar DeRozan scored the 24 of the Raptors first 30 points. They went a combined 1-6 in the fourth quarter.
  4. The Raptors offense is very disjointed, with no clear initiator or organization. This might be a good thing and be called diverse if we had enough playmakers on the court, but since we don’t have that (and Lowry is wildly inconsistent in that sense), it becomes a liability.
  5. The Raptors didn’t show up defensively and blah blah blah. Kill this season already.

  • DS

    Rudy Gay played hero ball most of the game. At least they were going in tonight, but it doesn’t always work. Evidence that that 3-on-1, where you could see that he wanted to score himself, despite the available options. Can’t be initiating the offence on about 25+ possessions, and end up with only 3 assists. If somehow he changes this mentality, he can be a fantastic player.

  • Raptor11

    No way Landry deserves an F. in limited minutes, he managed to grab 4 rebounds, play as a “big” and play great defense as usual. Missed his runners but got hacked on most of them

    • Fire Colangelo NOW

      IMHO, Arsenalist was far too generous with the F. Rather than Kleiza, this should be the contract to be amnestied this summer.

      • Guest

        Spoken like a typical fan with no notion of how things actually work.

        • Guest

          Honest question – why wouldn’t this work? There are nights when I think about amnesting each Raptor, but with Fields I have it a lot of nights. I’ll be interested to see how he plays when his hand is healed (I think he can contribute if he’s healthy), but still – what did your comment mean? Why can’t we amnesty him (if we wanted to)?

          • Grunny

            You can’t amnesty contracts given out under the new CBA.

          • Dino4life

            Because the amnesty can only be used on a player who was on your team BEFORE the lockout, and the contract had to be signed BEFORE the lockout. the only people we can amnesty are Bargnagni, Kleiza and i think Amir but no one wants to do that last one.

          • The Truth

            The amnesty provision is only available for contracts that were signed before July 1, 2011. I’ll spoil the surprise for you and let you know now that Landry’s deal was signed after this.

    • arsenalist

      You are probably right, but these rating are set in stone and cannot be changed. Sorry.

  • Guest

    Give demar some two man sets with the bigs where he drives and dumps

  • knickz

    jose calderon dribbles the ball too much and he sucks on defense, were gonna to keep losing games if we don’t trade him #kylelowryisawinner

    • mountio


      • knickz

        have you watched a pistons game? ive seen every since jose has been traded, that team fucking sucks like I stated about a month ago on here. be glad we didn’t draft brandon knight

        • mountio

          5 and 16 since Jose the winner joined (.238), 18 and 30 before (.375). Im not saying that KL is perfect (very, very far from) … but please dont tout Jose as some “winner” .. when the evidence, both in Toronto and now in Detriot, just does not back it up.

          • DumbassKicker

            *sigh* Team winning percentage before/after comparison attributed to one player *sigh* I suppose you feel all is equal when the before included Tayshaun Prince, Daye, Drummond. These types of arguments are so silly…………….. *sigh* C’mon man, you’re better than that,,, aren’t you? With this kind of shit, you put yourself in the same mentality as the “ad” clown below.

            • mountio

              just replying to the nonchalant suggestion that Jose is a winner and KL isnt .. to which there is no basis to support. Not suggesting his winning percentage is the be all and end all .. but the reality is, Jose has shown no ability to be a leader on a winning team in his career.

    • ad

      Wow, still on jose’s dick still after all this time. Listen, the guy was here for 7 years, the team sucked most of the time, despite his efforts (or lack thereof). Just give up. The guy isnt the answer to the raps problems. Any intelligent fan of basketball can see lowry is a better overall player. Raps need talent and lowry provides more of it. If jose is that impactful, believe me det wouldnt suck nearly as much.

      • ad

        Also, i want to add something which is overlooked by several calderon fanboys. He was here for 7 years and had a chance develop chemistry well with a lot of players. Lowry hasnt been here for 1. His play has been inconsistent but i really believe he’ll be better next year in a contract year no less. Hopefully casey is gone or he lets him play his game more. Tonight was a step in the right direction. The guy is a good player with tons of stats to back it up over the past several years.

      • knickz

        again, the raps were in rebuild mode up until they thought gay would lead us to the playoffs. try again

        • Adriiian

          don’t argue with this retard man. its no use.
          ultimate troll over here.

          • ad

            If im the ultimate troll retard, you are definitely the ultimate jose fanboy retard. Your love of jose as some spanish saint of basketball is sickening. The guy is a good backup nba pg. You and knicz using this forum to push your agenda as lovers of jose who dont want anything but some cabeza time with his polla.

    • Guest

      haha. love that one. i mean i love his hustle and everything, but idk.. he just seems to shit to me.. :(

  • morgan c

    What I fail to understand is how RR writers, Arse in particular, can say things like we are a “bad” team, say we didn’t play defense “blah blah blah,” and clearly point to our lack of offensive dynamism on the one hand (all of which I agree with), yet say that we will be a 6-8 seed going forward and this team is going to be much better next year.

    I’m not trying to be a jerk or sarcastic. I have a legitimate question. I can’t reconcile these two sides. There has been much talk that BC may deserve another chance, and that this core is solid going forward. If that is the case, why do we continually suck? How can this be? What makes you think we will be so much better and contend for a playoff spot next year when the exact same core 6-7 are absolutely dreadful this year?

    • arsenalist

      I did not say ” this team is going to be much better next year”. This team will be the same next year, unless BC is either, 1) able to parlay Bargnani into something really valuable, 2) Bargnani somehow returns to near All-Star form.

      I just don’t see us having any off-season flexibility, or trade-bait to significantly improve the team. I’d bet on .500 next season. Given how low BC has set the bar, that will be considered a wild success by the media.

      • ezz_bee

        We already have 42 losses, which means we would have to 16-0 to finish out the schedule to just to get to .500. Which would also pretty much guarantee a playoff spot. Also, you aren’t predicting any improvement by JV, Ross, Amir, or Derozan? All young guys who IMO should have at least some small improvement to their game. Don’t these factors, and their (safely assumed) outcomes classify as “much better?”

        I’m not a BC or DC fan boy, but IMO the raps are a .500 ball club, which means there’s probably as many teams below them as above them, so it’s a bit of a misnomer to call them “bad” medicore, average, no chance of getting out of the first round, are all applicable, but bad at this point is a bit of a stretch.

        I’m not a huge Rudy Gay fan, but isn’t nice to have a player that can go toe to toe with Lebron James? Sure you can say that Lebron got the better of the match up (and his team won, of course) but the fact that we have a guy on the roster who has the ability to guard the best player in the world in single coverage, and who also demonstrated that he’s not afraid to go at him (successfully) on the offensive end.

        Yes, this team has holes, and yes they aren’t going to get out of the first round unless one of the two things you pointed out happens. But seriously, how can you be mad about us making the playoffs?

        • morgan c

          I think JV will improve. Hopefully and possibly Ross as well (though he doesn’t project to start, so his improvement will not be as ‘impactful’ as a guy like JV’s). Honestly, I don’t really see how ppl can expect DDR to improve much anymore. He has been in the league for four years, and though I know he’s still young (and has made solid strides), I just don’t see him becoming the all around shooting guard we want and need him to be. Let me be clear that I like Demar, and don’t think there is necessarily anything wrong with him continuing to be a 17 and 5 guy (probably worth the money), but to expect him to keep improving like he’s gonna start nailing his 3s and score 20 plus per game is beyond wishful thinking at this point. Same goes for Amir; love the guy, but how can anyone seriously expect him to make marked improvement on his current play? The dude is already playing out of his mind, which is great, but I don’t see him becoming an all-star PF.

          So JV and hopefully Ross improve. I don’t see it really happening from Demar, Amir, Lowry, and certainly not Gay. Not sure that is enough to push us into a plus 500 team. I just don’t see it.

      • morgan c

        Okay fair enough. Thanks for the reply. I guess now that I think about it, you are less optimistic than Blake and Garrett and phD Steve (all of whom I’ve definitely heard say the Raptors will contend for a 6-8 seed next year, which ergo, means they will be much better since that is 3 spots ahead of where they are now). Anyway, I agree with your take. The elephant in the room is definitely Lowry; he’s really not giving me any confidence that we can be our guy at the point. If this turns out to be true, another wasted BC draft pick give-away. I just can’t stand BC. Okay that is all. Sorry and thanks.

      • NyAlesund

        You’re right.

        This team has not valuable talent to compete at the high level. The best would be .500, no more. Gay is good, but nothing more, Valanciunas can improve consistently, probably a sort of Noah at his best, DD won’t be an elite SG, Lowry…………jesus……..AJ can’t improve consistently and Ross is an enigma, I don’t know what I am expected. AB could be a big factor but he doesn’t want to stay here and I don’t foresse a big trade with a big package in return.
        In a few words we are almost fucked……..relying on BC!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Guest

      rap fans have a tendency to overestimate …

      i wouldnt be surprised if this organization lands the 7th seed or worse next year

      plus CAVS will add another pick to their already promising roster and have the potential to surpass the raps, if not next, then in 2-3 years

      Worse Case is we get stuck in mediocrity

      • Guest

        *9th seed

      • Nilanka15

        We’re already stuck in mediocrity.

        • Copywryter

          Really? I think we aspire to mediocrity.

    • Copywryter

      You’re confusing the writers with fan comments and posts in the forum. The writers here do not generally have blinders on and refuse to drink the kool-aid.

  • FAQ

    We are now in a “pre-season training camp” for the rest of the schedule… soooo obvious.

    Jonas + Amir + Demar + Rudolph + I-wish-TRaps-had-a-decent-playmaking-PG = an entertaining bunch.

  • Copywryter

    Too high a grade for JV who gave up several big plays to McRoberts late in the game. He should, however, see the ball more in the post and p ‘n’ r. He gets looked off by every Raptors ball handler despite being ridiculously open. Makes you wonder what they are seeing in practice.

  • Copywryter

    I like how Gay is still in a Grizzlies uniform. Well played Arse, well played.

  • Adriiian

    Hello my friends.
    If we cannot find a play-making PG by next year, we are in some DEEEEEEEP shit. We won’t even make the playoffs. Rudy doesn’t pass, he’s too proud to pass. The guy’s contract is set in stone, and we’re fucked, gents.

    And I mean, I’d love to see a change, but does anyone have the balls to tell this guy that basketball is a team sport? I know one coach who would, Coach POP. The guy has been in the league 7 years now, I hope this next year he can change his game all-around, he’ll never win MVP, but he could sure as hell win MIP.

    When he takes those step back long 2s I honestly start to cringe.
    I miss my boy Jose.

  • SkyDog

    CMON man Demar had one of the worst games i’ve ever seen him play zero effort on the defensive end.

    And then Amir with a C+ ? Fields an F ? I think you should give your grades out before looking at the stats this isn’t ColangeloBall

    • Adriiian

      I hear grades are based on “expectations.”
      So for example, the 6 million dollar man aka Landry Fields should be doing much more than that.
      I disagree tho, they should be based on each game, not on what is expected. Landry I thought played at a C level. Amir is always at an A for me. A for AEFFORT.

      • SkyDog

        Normally that would be a good approach, but these are Colangelo’s “expectations”. We all know that Landry isn’t a 6mil man. Thats almost as absurd as thinking Bargs will play at a 10 mil level ahhhhaa

        And seeing how porous ERozan’s D was tonight i would rather see Fields take every one of his mins.

        And Amir is our best player just about every game

        trust me, give me the coaching position and we would be a 2 seed without a doubt (I’ve been watching basketball for months now)

  • Mopola

    I hate those small lineups but on the other hand, BC formed a roster with only two legit bigs (at the moment, both of them are quite foul-prone) so Casey has nothing to do but play small… Please, bring back Quincy Acy from D-League – it won’t be worse with him playing 15-20 mins a game…

  • Statement

    I thought that Demar had an efficient offensive game but was a sieve on defense (Henderson went off on Demar IIRC, so much so that Gay was switched onto him later).
    Also Valanciunas didn’t look great on defense IMHO.
    However, the no-show of the bench is what hurt us, ultimately.
    In reality though, the Raptors are a bad team who were on the road, playing a game that it would be hard as a human being to be too interested in. I’m surprised at the result, but not too surprised.

  • Sangaman

    There was a key moment in the thrid quarter when Gay went off on a ill advised drive with blinders on and lost the ball. He is the number one ball hog followed closely by Lowry, Derozan, Anderson and Lucas. Valanciunas never sees the ball inspite of a 70% FG average.. Played a lot of frustrating pickup basketball with guys like these. Little wonder why Bargs wants out..and I hope he gets hsi wish….Am cheering for every team that beats these fucking hogs.

  • C-low

    25pts perfect from the line nto a terrible % 8 boards 2 blocks.. ya I guess that’s not a sustained effort he shoulda droped 40 and 15.. with 2 stls and 5 blocks.

  • ezz_bee

    Not cool, or appropriate. Can a mod please remove this comment? Thank you.