Detroit Pistons 108 Final

Recap | Box Score

98 Toronto Raptors
Amir Johnson, PF 37 MIN | 2-5 FG | 2-2 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 2 BLK | 1 TO | 6 PTS | -3Gave his trademark effort on both ends of the floor, but looked a step slow, probably due to the amount of banging/the crazy amount of minutes he’s been playing over the last couple months. Greg Monroe killed him in the fourth, which basically sealed the game for the Pistons.
Rudy Gay, SF 40 MIN | 13-18 FG | 4-4 FT | 6 REB | 5 AST | 1 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 34 PTS | -11That’s a gaudy stat line, and he was absolutely unconscious for the first 3 quarters of the game – showcasing a versatile offensive game that included some beautiful jumpers from all over the floor and a thunderous dunk in traffic. In the fourth, though, it seemed like his shot selection went out the window, as he took a number of early in the shot clock attempts that all but forced Lowry to start taking the ball to the hoop. His defence, like the vast majority of the Raptors, was really ugly tonight too, particularly when he was forced to play the 4.
Jonas Valanciunas, C 37 MIN | 8-14 FG | 1-2 FT | 6 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 5 BLK | 2 TO | 17 PTS | -8Thank God for this kid, who worked his tail off on both ends of the floor against a massive Pistons front line, won the head-to-head battle with Andre Drummond, and showed off his ever-evolving offensive game. Two things: he’s a bit too hasty to give up position before his check gets the ball, leaving him a bit over-reliant on his blocking ability, and he really needs to develop a left hand in the offseason, as his “two dribbles, hook shot” is getting predictable and was stripped a couple times tonight. One more thing: he’s BY FAR the best reason to keep watching this team through the end of the year.
Kyle Lowry, PG 30 MIN | 4-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 7 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 9 PTS | +2His best moments came early in the fourth quarter, when he took charge of the offense, keeping the ball himself and driving through the lane when both Gay and DeMar fell in love with the early in the shot clock jumper. His worst moments came later on in the fourth, when he seemingly held the ball for 15 seconds every time the Raptors had possession. Jose: I love you, but you can’t defend the drive – Lowry: FREAKING DRIVE!
DeMar DeRozan, SG 41 MIN | 7-17 FG | 1-2 FT | 7 REB | 5 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 15 PTS | -4After the first half, I was ready to sing DeMar’s offensive praises – he made some great passes, showcased a varied shot selection, and even posted up the smaller Brandon Knight when he got the chance. In the second half, though, he reverted back to his jump shot and turned into the overshooting DeMar we’ve all come to know and love. Like the rest of the Raptor wings, his defence was ugly tonight.
Quincy Acy, SF 8 MIN | 2-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 4 PTS | +1Only got 8 minutes of run, but worked his butt off on both ends of the floor, got the better of Charlie Villanueva on numerous occasions, and threw down this hammer of a dunk. One of two Raptors who actually looked like he cared about defence for the entire game, the other being Valanciunas.
Sebastian Telfair, PG 18 MIN | 2-6 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 4 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 6 PTS | -12Hit two quick 3s when he entered the game, and then caught Anderson-itis for the rest of the night, throwing up a ton of shots early in the clock that were unacceptable in a close game (in any game, really). His defensive effort was basically nonexistent, as well, though you can say that about all of the Raptor wings for long stretches of the game.
Alan Anderson, SG 16 MIN | 3-8 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 7 PTS | -4He’s got a little angel and a little devil on either shoulder, and they’re both just screaming: “shoot, Alan! Shoot! SHOOT!!”
Terrence Ross, SG 13 MIN | 0-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 0 PTS | -11Got his lunch eaten by Rodney Stuckey on defense, airballed a 3, and generally looked like he didn’t give a crap at all. It’s tough to justify giving him minutes when you look at his effort compared to Jonas or Acy.
Dwane CaseyContinued to give Jonas plenty of run, but waited way too long to insert him back into the game in the fourth – waiting until there were just 5 minutes left in the game for no apparent reason (all the other starters were in the game). Also stubbornly continued to use a small-ball lineup late into the game even though it was apparent that they couldn’t hold up against the Pistons’ massive front line. Acy was playing well – why not put him back in?

Four Things We Saw

  1. The story of tonight’s game was Jose’s return, and the fans responded by giving him a really nice ovation as he was introduced. A classy way to thank a classy player. His halftime attempt to enter the Raptors’ locker room was a great reminder of how synonymous he’s become with the home squad over the years. Even if it came in the midst of a really ugly Raptor effort, it was great to see him have a good game tonight.
  2. I don’t know if the Raptor wings all collectively agreed to take the night off on defence, but the effort for 3 and a half quarters was absolutely pathetic. Detroit’s wing players drove through the lane at will, running up a comical 62% shooting percentage after the first half. The only time the Raptors even attempted to stop dribble penetration was for the first half of the 3rd quarter, where they quickly jumped out to a 10 point lead. Coincidence?
  3. From a Raps’ perspective, the two biggest bright spots (by far) were Jonas Valanciunas and Quincy Acy. Take the silver lining for what it is, but if the Raptors are only going to have two players look impressive on a night like tonight, at least it was their rookies. Here’s hoping they continue to give a crap night after night – it must have been tough given the way their team was playing around them.
  4. With today’s loss, the Raptors have officially been eliminated from playoff contention – the most incredible thing about that is that it’s taken so long. Eight games to go.

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  • knickz

    again, as raptors fans, be glad colangelo picked val or knight.

    • knickz

      over knight

  • knickz

    in all honesty, the raptors are a top 5 team in the east,just need a new coach

    • Anonymous

      Could be…
      The talent is there: JV, RG, DD, KL as a core is pretty good
      They just need a coach who can get the best out of them as right now… thats not happening.
      whether its cause the seasons over, or otherwise is impossible to tell till next season…
      i say we give them half a year ish… if somethings not working (no playoffs) then we scrap BC and DC
      move some players and pull a Bobcat for a top lottery

      • Amigo

        “The talent is there: JV, RG, DD, KL as a core is pretty good”…..

        Really ?

      • laughing boys

        ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha haha h aha ha ah aha hhh h aaaaa …………….

    • Copywryter

      In all honesty that is a lie.

    • Doc

      Or players that care.

    • Guy

      Not sure a top 5 team in the east, but a playoff team. I think we’re seeing why Casey has spent the majority of his career as an assistant coach.

      • knickz

        very true! i’m 100% sure he will get canned. bargs has barely played, jose has been gone for about 2 months now and the same problems exist. this falls on the coach now.

        • Guy

          My question is, if Colangelo’s option is picked up for next year, does that automatically mean Casey stays on? If ownership isn’t willing, at this point, to extend BC beyond next year, would they be willing to let him hire a new coach this off-season? My feeling is, if BC gets his option picked up, then Casey sticks around for the final year of his deal. That way, both guys have deals expiring at the same time & can be turfed together if things don’t improve. Then whomever is brought in as new GM can make his own hire, ‘his guy’ so to speak.

      • knickz

        coaches don’t win you games, but they sure as hell can lose you games -bob mcCowan

  • Copywryter

    Should JV get an A when Monroe drops 24 on us? I know everybody likes this hard-working kid but when he plays 36 minutes and the opposing C is the other team’s top scorer (and Monroe is a kid too) you shouldn’t give him a top grade.

    • Doc

      Just FYI if your going to comment watch the game. JV was matched with Drummand and Amir was on Monroe.

    • morons

      always looking for a reason to bash the kid, even when you’re dead wrong. Monroe has 3 season on him and has dropped 24 on a lot of centres, experienced ones too you dumb fucking clown

  • SR

    Rudy Gay was unconscious for three quarters? That sounds horrible. Was it a concussion? Is he out for the season?

    • ammar

      dumass: he meant being invincible meaning no one could stop him

      • SR

        Ahh, I see – being “unconscious” (i.e. “knocked out”) means being “invincible” (i.e. cannot be harmed). Now it makes perfect sense, dumb ass.

        The writer is looking for “conscienceless” rather than “unconscious.” There’s a significant difference between an athlete being conscious and an athlete having a conscience. Call me picky, but there’s a huge difference in meaning between the words.

        • The Truth

          Nope, the use of the word “unconscious” in the context of basketball as the writer did is pretty common. If you haven’t seen it used that way before that’s great, but no need to make a dick of yourself.

          No doubt the fact that I’m “citing” urban dictionary instead of the Oxford dictionary or some shit will make you furious, but this is a basketball site not a scientific journal. I bet you get upset when people say a player is stinking it up too, “BUT GUYS HE ACTUALLY SMELLS OK, WHAT ARE YOU IDIOTS ON ABOUT”.

  • arsenalist

    Ross’ effort-level compared to Acy is ridiculous, especially considering they’re in the same boat in terms of fighting for NBA careers.

  • jay

    Wow, okay to hope for a new gm, now.

  • FAQ

    … didn’t watch it… was there any deevelopment showing…???

  • Fresh_Prints

    If I was coach Casey, i would probably drink a lot.

  • knickz

    i love the raps but ive thrown in the towel on the season. just trying to be a nba fan now instead of a raptors fan. Find myself becoming a big observer of the portland trailblazers. also, love watching the guy who has been the best player for 9 years straight, lebron james

    • laughing boys

      good move knickz
      i think i’ll do the same

  • ClassAct

    Round 2 in the post-trade Calderon vs. Lowry saga, goes decisively to Jose. I know Lowry is a stronger defender and also can break down his opponent and absorb contact..all of that being said, I will still take Jose as my PG. Can’t believe we let him go. Big talent. Great leader.

    • Guy

      I’d agree with you if you could point to one NBA team he’s made better.

      • ClassAct

        If you are trying to say Jose is not “all that” because the Raptors sucked and The Pistons now, are still losing….it’s pretty much common sense that you will MAX out his talent, when you surround him with talent. He’s not a break-u-down type of PG, he’s a pass first court distributor, so he’s as good as the finishers around him. Lowry has Rudy Gay beside him, and he still couldn’t win. Figure that one out! Put Rudy Gay with Calderon and we would be in the play-offs! But BC never wanted to find Jose a super-star to play with. Weird.

  • No Euros please

    3 – 14 without that lazy pasta boy.Raped on D, day & night. Who shats now ?

    • laughing boys

      nice show
      3 – 14 without that lazy pasta boy and itsn’t finish yet

  • Sig

    Nice AA comment there. I laughed.

  • It seems to me Amir is hurt. Even ignoring his play and lack of rebounds, I noticed him getting an unusually high amount of sympathetic pats on the back from teammates during the game. And when I say sympathetic pats on the back, that’s exactly what they looked like. I first noticed Jonas doing it to him, then I kept noticing it over and over again. It looked odd. While I admire his warrior mentality and the fact that it’s a good example for Jonas, these games mean nothing, so it’s probably better to shut him down if he’s that bad.

  • laughing boys

    when we start to boooo somebody again ?
    it’s time right now – ya think