Toronto Raptors rumoured to be pursuing Eric Bledsoe

I’m getting that feeling that the Raptors are going to be in contention, or making a move, to land just about anyone of value who’s on the market this summer (not free agents, strictly on the trade front). Oooohhh, Ujiri has a blank slate because he doesn’t have an emotional attachment to anyone on the roster. Ooooohhh, this team will be made in Masai’s image, so that means less of what we have, and more of what made Denver so great.  Oooooohhhh, Ujiri is going to stir the pot, mix a mystical potion and rebuild this team stat; 3 moves till check-mate.

The reality is that this team didn’t have a draft pick this season (for the record, I don’t value anyone who got drafted 12+ more than Lowry), there is no cap flexibility, and Bargnani’s value is less than it’s ever been (or so it seems). So with the rumours that they are in the lead with Orlando for the Bledsoe sweepstakes, you have to expect a franchise altering move. The only way the Raptors can be in the conversation for players of the calibre of Eric Bledsoe is to dangle DeRozan, all the while taking back filler to make the salaries work.

Been playing with trade machine, and have two scenarios that work:

Scenario 1

To Raptors
Eric Bledsoe
Caron Butler

To Clippers
DeMar DeRozan

Why?
Raptors do it because they get Bledsoe, obviously, and Butler’s contract comes off the books. The Raptors get deep at the point, Ross gets more minutes, Butler is a legit backup to Gay and comes off the books at the end of the year (there isn’t a great deal of savings because most of Butler’s expiring will go to paying Bledsoe his com’upins). The Clippers get a young, starting calibre shooting guard to pair with Paul in the backcourt.

Scenario 2

To Raptors
Eric Bledsoe
Caron Butler
Deandre Jordan

To Clippers
DeMar DeRozan
Andrea Bargnani

Why?
The above reasons, plus the Raptors get defensive minded (more-so than Bargnani, anyways…) center who can run the floor and camp out in the paint. The Clippers get a stretch big who Paul can play pick-and-pop with, who also doesn’t take up space in the paint where Griffin likes to operate. The change in scenery and Doc Rivers whispering/shouting in his ear might make a new man of Bargnani.

Scenario 2 might need to be sweetened with a 2nd rounder and some cash since Bargnani has more years on his deal than Jordan. but they aren’t terrible moves as far as the Clippers are concerned (and if the Nets were able to get Garnett and Pierce for Humphries, Wallace and Brooks, this is a much better haul IMHO). They get an elite athletic wing, who can play outside-in, and are able to stretch the floor with a big giving Griffin more room to operate in the paint. Guys like Odom and Barnes can pick up the slack with rebounding, and you hope coaching can make up the difference in the gap between expectations and reality when it comes to Bargnani as an NBA basketball player.

For the Raptors, this poses a few interesting questions:

  1. You have to assume that Bledsoe gets upped. What does that mean for Lowry? Does he get re-upped as well? Can they co-exist? Does Lowry get traded?
  2. Who would want to see a backcourt of Bledsoe and Lowry get 20+ minutes a night?
  3. Is Ross ready to step up into big time minutes for a 2nd year player who had an up and down rookie season?

Put me in the supportive camp for making this move. It gives the Raptors options, assets, and expiring contracts; if worse comes to worst, this is a lateral move that doesn’t have long term implications. In fact, it cleans itself up and clears cap space in exactly 12 months. If they can swap Bargnani for Jordan in the process, well, it makes it that much sweeter and makes Masai’s first move as a the GM a home run.

  • Raptorslogik

    Big raptors fan, but have to think the clippers would be crazy to give up deandre and Bledsoe for ab and dd.

    • ghostdini

      Agreed. Two above average defensive players for two below average defensive players. Not a good recipe for a championship contender. No way Doc/CP3 approves that trade. First scenario more likely. I would be happy with that.

    • Sam Holako

      Like I said, the Nets robbed the Celtics of Garnett and Pierce; this isn’t a horrible trade for the Clippers considering their needs (I’m sure a couple things get thrown in I couldn’t add on trade machine)

      • ghostdini

        Celtics got exactly what they wanted though. They got 3 first round draft picks for the rebuild and most likely will finish in the lottery for a stocked draft.

        • Raptorslogik

          And the clippers would be giving up their rim protection. That’s huge.

      • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

        Giving up two 35 year olds and a 37 year old, all of whom will probably be retired within three years for 3 first round picks, all unprotected and two of the have a good chance of being lottery picks. I’m going on record here and say that Boston is eventually going to come out as the winner of that deal.

        • CJT

          I think it is immediate. I don’t think the Nets really improved with this deal. As you say Garnett and Pierce are centainly at the end and their bodies aren’t what they used to be. this was a great move by the Celtics.

          • ghostdini

            Really dude, you think a starting lineup of D.Williams, J. Johnson, P. Pierce, K. Garnett and B. Lopez isn’t impressive. Sure, they’re older but there still playing some good basketball. And being surrounded the other good players, they won’t have to carry the weight of the entire team like thy did this year after Rondo went down. Jeff Van Gundy called this the best starting line-up in the NBA and if they stay healthy and develop chemistry, I would agree. Indiana’s starting lineup took the Heat to 7 games(worst bench in the league) and they had George Hill and Lance Stevenson( 2 less than stellar players).

        • johng_3

          If they are able to do what Houston did and package it into a deal for a superstar like James Harden, then I will consider them the winner of the deal.

          • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

            That’s pretty specific criteria for Boston to apparently win the deal. So what you’re suggesting is that if the Nets fail to get to the FInals in the next couple of years, Pierce and Garnett retire after that and the Nets sink back into the lottery after that, giving Boston at least two high picks, the Nets will still have won the deal?

            Quite frankly, I’m shocked Boston got as much as they did for three players WAY past their prime who could fall off a cliff at any time. With those three, they were barely a .500 team and only getting worse. There was talk of buying out Pierce just to save money. And Garnett has played more minutes than all but 5 players in the history of the league.

            Loading your team up with over-the-hill veterans, and trading away your future to do it, has never been a successful strategy in the NBA. No reason to think it will be any different now.

            • johng_3

              Even without Garnett and Pierce, they were a top 5 seed, so the picks aren’t going to be that great. And with a bloody rich owner who wants a championship and will do anything, I don’t see them ever wanting to go to rebuild mode anytime soon.

              • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

                They’re a top five team in the East that didn’t make it out of the first round. And the picks are in 2014, 2016 and 2018. Garnett, Pierce and Johnson will be WAAAAYYY past their prime by then, and who knows about Williams, who has struggled with injuries for several years.

                Having money is great, but the Nets will be limited by what the CBA will allow them to do. The Knicks have had a rich owner willing to spend for decades, but that doesn’t equal winning.

            • Robert Archibald

              Tim, you always talk about the ONLY goal being to win a championship.

              Here, the Nets are making a move to make them serious contenders next year. I know how much you like the idea of building a team through the draft, but if the Nets win a ‘ship in the next year or two, they win this trade – going by your own criteria.

              Otherwise, your endless posts about tanking and building through the draft have no end game, and as such no merit.

              • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

                The Nets goal IS to win a Championship. That’s what the owner has said. And while I think they will improve, I don’t see them good enough to get past either Miami or Indiana and probably not Chicago. Relying on so many over-the-hill veterans can be a recipe for disaster in the NBA.

  • Corey Crewe

    Every team sees AB’s scary potential. Doc could turn him into a player and we would look at this in a couple of years with a little regret. That said, he remains a bum if he stays here.

    • Duncan

      and if he does become great, he will be in the west and out of our hair

      • sleepz

        He will never become great

  • HuskiesFan

    I wouldnt trade derozan for bledsoe, we already have a point guard. Bargnani yes, find a trade for him, then i approve

    • ghostdini

      Not gonna win much with a mediocre point guard like Lowry.

      • Duncan

        u need at least two point guards dude

        • ghostdini

          Yah…but wants your point???

    • Al_Oliver

      Bargnani has less trade value

  • Duncan

    marc stein recently tweeted that clips prefer Bargs over DD. so hopefully DD goes nowhere

  • Balls of Steel

    I’ve been wrong many times but scenario 2 I believe is a pipe dream. If Masai can convince the Clip to go through that then our GM deserves his pay in more ways than one. As Rapsfan suggested, it’ll have to include a sweetener. I’m a fan of Derozan’s work ethic but not his game. For anyone who thinks AB will be revived needs to give their heads a shake. My 2 cents.

  • Ds

    Positionally and statically, this makes absolutely no sense.

    Bledsoe: PER 17.5 / TS% 0.513 / AST% 23.5
    Lowry: PER 17.5 / TS% 0.543 / AST% 34.6

    So, what exactly are we upgrading? Bledsoe got his reputation as a backup PG. In the few games he played as a starter, he shot .406 from the field. And I still remember the game as the ACC where he crapped his pants.

    If it’s butler and Bledsoe for Bargnani, then sure, it’s a low risk move. But Bledsoe for DeRozan as a backwards move.

    • ghostdini

      I’ve been impressed with Bledsoe when I’ve seen him play. However, those stats are deceiving. Good players when giving consistent starter minutes often turn out to be a lot better. Recent example: James Harden.

      • Ds

        Harden is a bad example. In the last year with OKC, he was shooting an insane TS% of .660 and averaging 17 ppg.

        • ghostdini

          Harden was basically playing starter minutes and he was playing with Westbrook and Durant which doesn’t hurt his shooting efficiency. His TS% is skewed as well, as he’s excellent at drawing fouls and has a FT% of 0.84. But the initial point is that given starter minutes, Bledsoe would most likely blossom into a top notch point PG.

    • Mugsy

      This is obviously a trade that goes beyond statistical comparison. Bledsoe’s defense, potential, and youth make him a more attractive player than Lowry. And if he does fill some of this potential hes a much better running mate with Valenciunas for the future as they can grow together and add some recently lacking stability to the team. Not to mention if Ujiri can actually pull off a masterpiece by getting rid of Bargnani.

      • Ds

        He’s almost 24. DeRozan is just a couple of months older. Whatever perceived improvement he’s going to make, DeMar will probably surpass, given his work ethic.

        • ghostdini

          Derozan’s been a starter since day one. He’s basically reached his ceiling. Bledsoe has come off the bench since day one. As a starter with consistent minutes he has the potential to be much better.

          • johng_3

            How has he reached his ceiling? He started since he was a rookie. The problem has been he has played on a losing team with minimal talent. With a roster consistently changing how can I guy really fully develop, which I blame BC for.

            • ghostdini

              What strange logic? First, his stats from season 2 and season 4 are virtually identical which indicates his ceiling has already been reached. His ball handling, passing, 3 point shooting and defense have shown little or no improvement over that same period, also indicating he has reached his ceiling. As for playing with minimal talent on a losing….irrelevant. There are plenty of players in the same situation and it doesn’t hinder their development. Consistent starter minutes is the most important factor in player development.

              • johng_3

                Just because a player is playing consistent minutes, doesn’t mean it will translate into player development. A player has to be in a good situation. You think it would be great to develop a young talent with the Bobcats these past couple of years. Nobody on that team has trade value. You don’t think Bledsoe hasn’t benefited from playing behind the best point guard in the NBA. Plus, Derozen is only 25, he still has room to improve, just like every player in the NBA.

                • ghostdini

                  Dude, are you serious, the Bobcats…that’s your example. The reason they don’t have any talent is because they don’t know how to draft. The only player that has a bright future is MKG. Players develop by playing consistent starter minutes against the best players in the world. Yah, Derozan can still improve but his track record shows that any improvement will be minimal. Watch some basketball dude. And Bledsoe has benefitted from playing with CP3. Imagine what could happen if he was given a starting position.

                • johng_3

                  So your saying on record he is going to be a guaranteed success if he starts. Nothing is guaranteed just because your given more minutes. Bledsoe played against second unit opposition when he was a Clipper. He was not always playing against the best players on the floor. And look what happened to a player like Avery Bradley (who is in the same mold as Bledsoe) when he started in the playoffs against the Knicks, when Rondo was out. He struggled bad because he didn’t know how to run the offense and was turnover-prone. Doc had to bench him.

                • ghostdini

                  Wow, that’s a stretch. Because Avery Bradley played terribly in the playoffs, Bledsoe will likely play bad with more minutes. LOL.

                • johng_3

                  Well thats what you been saying. Your saying every player who is given more minutes should develop into a better player. I guess Bradley has reached his ceiling as a player then. Your argument doesn’t make sense.

                • ghostdini

                  Alright I’m gonna try to make this really simple for you. When players come into the league the great majority come off the bench. MOST of these players do not reach their full potential until they are given consistent starter minutes. DD has been given consistent starter minutes for 4 seasons and his 2nd and 4th year stats are virtually identical indicating he may have reached his ceiling. Combine that with this poor 3point shooting, weak handles, poor defense and passing and it’s not likely that his ceiling is much higher. Bledsoe on the other hand has never been given consistent starter minutes. But he has been effective off the bench. There is a GOOD POSSIBILITY that he will improve when given starter minutes. That’s why he is coveted by other GM’s in the NBA.

                • johng_3

                  DD was practically thrown into the starting lineup (with no other SGs) with one year in college. He is still learning the game. If you think Bloedsoe would be a successful PG if he was a starter in his rookie season, then your naive. He is in a good situation, with Chris Paul as a mentor and around one of the top teams in the NBA. I think its a GOOD POSSIBILITY that DeMar is still a good starter. Its been only 4 years, how impatient are you?

                • ghostdini

                  I give up, dude. Sorry, you don’t understand basketball.

                • johng_3

                  Ok relax yourself buddy. Keep watching your YouTube clips of Bledsoe

        • Mugsy

          My comment was in reference to the Lowry comparison. In that I think Bledsoe is a better fit over him because of the youth and potential.

          However if you are comparing him with demar i think its more apples and oranges. I do agree though with ghostdini that in a way Bledsoe stands to gain much more (and thus improve much more) in his increased minutes than Derozan does from the continued status quo. Don’t agree hes reached his ceiling, and his work ethic can’t be questioned, but I do question how high his ceiling really is. Over 4 years in the league hes improved, but how much really. Hes had a starting role and as much experience as a young player can get and his shooting is still well below what a shooting-guard should be, his defense is average, and his handle likewise. Whereas Bledsoe has clearly shown significant improvement as can be seen by the sheer level in NBA execs interest as of late, and all that with a limited back-up role in arguably the deepest team in the league. This is just my opinion, but having a starting two who’s shooting is a weakness and has remained that way for 4 years doesn’t sound that great, especially when he’s supposed to be one of the main scoring options. Im a fan of the guy, but he has flaws.

      • Duncan

        lowry is 26, bledsoe is 24. the age difference is minimal

        • Mugsy

          Lowry’s been 27 since march, Bledsoes 23 until the end of the year.

          In a professional sport where players reach their peak right around 27, it doesn’t make alot of sense to say a 4 year difference is minimal. I think its safe to say Lowry’s reached his potential as his limited size and athleticism will prevent any significant improvement. While at 23 and athletically superior Bledsoe has much more upside. Improving shooting stroke and decision making is doable with time and experience, athleticism and defensive tenacity not so much (not that Lowry’s shot selection is that great).

          • ghostdini

            Exactly!

    • enlightenment

      Younger, better defensively, tons of upside.

    • Mugsy

      At worst the guys a 23 year old Lowry, and at best (if his long range improves) hes Baron Davis or Steve Francis in their prime, maybe even with better defense. Not saying hel ever get there but if his worst is somwhere around where Lowry is right now (with better D) why not prefer him over KL?

      • ghostdini

        I can see him as a Ty Lawson type PG.

    • Duncan

      absolutely right, bledsoe is overrated and unproven.

  • aaron.in.toronto

    I think the third scenario that is described in the article and put on twitter is the most likely;

    -Raps get Bledsoe and Butler
    -Clips get Derozan and Bargnani

    Then we are free to try and trade Lowry + for someone like Millsap in a sign and trade with Utah, they still don’t have a legit pg to start and he would be a nice short term option that they can re-evaluate at the end of this year.

    Then I bet we would start Val, Millsap, Gay, Fields(if he gets his sh*t together), and Bledsoe. This line up is better balanced between O and D.

    Then we need to get a free agent pg with the mid-level and we have a much better bench as well. As much as I hate Bargnani, I would do that trade even if he stayed and use him as the back-up center and let him get back on track before becoming an expiring deal next year.

  • Danny

    Don’t like this trade, Demar is a good player, who’s hard-working and mentally-tough. Raptors already traded away Ed Davis, if this team is trying to a build a good team identity they can’t trade away their good character players.

    • Amigo

      I m not interested in hard working players. I m on talented players and a great experienced coach. And, finally, a franchise that goes over the salary tax to at least try to contend for something. F@ck those hard noses players and coaches. T A L E N T.

      • Ben

        You have never played sports at a serious level if you think that hard working players aren’t worth anything. The practice court and the weightroom are where players are made. There’s a reason MJ is the greatest player of all time: his work ethic is unmatched. Don’t bring that stupid shitty commentary around here, there is no production without hard work (Andrea Bargnani). There’s a marked difference between tough only players and players who work hard in the weight room and on the practice court to make themselves great.

        • ghostdini

          You missed his point entirely. Hard work can only get you so far if you don’t have the talent. MJ had both, Kobe has both, Lebron has both. Even though Derozan is talented and a hard worker he has most likely reached his ceiling based on his play over 4 seasons.

    • ghostdini

      You’re right, Demar is a good player but he’s has almost reached his ceiling and is still a poor ball handler, 3 point shooter, passer, and is a defensive liability who is overpaid. Not sure where you got mentally tough. Has never even been in the playoffs?

    • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

      So you’re suggesting that Eric Bledsoe is not a good player who is a hard worker and mentally tough?

      I actually think Bledsoe is overrated, at this point, but DeRozan is, as well. There are two big reasons to swap the two (if that’s what it boils down to). Bledsoe doesn’t have a major flaw like DeRozan does (defense, three point shooting), and he’s shown far more improvement during his NBA career than DeRozan has. Plus, Bledsoe, at this point, isn’t signed to a bad contract.

      • RaptorFan

        I like both Eric Bledsoe & DD! However, they both need to keep improving their games…. we should OBVIOUSLY try to keep DD and team him with Eric Bledsoe.

        I disagree that Demar is signed to a bad contract…..I need time to see how he plays under this new contract. I don’t understand how so many posters are able to predict the future! You cant say DD is on a bad contract until he plays this coming season with his new contract. Anyone that says otherwise is talking BS or trying to prove something…..

        Sorry to break it to you Tim BUT DD is better than you think he is. Lets see how he plays this coming season before you make any more predictions!

        • johng_3

          Exactly. Everyone should stop bringing up the contract. Look, everyone hated on the Memphis for paying Mike Conley that supposedly ridiculous contract at one time. But look now, he improved and looks like a top 5 or 6 PG, and made everyone look stupid. Give Derozen time and then maybe we can say it is a bad contract.

  • Marz

    What happened to the last amazing, young point guard oozing with potential that was playing with Chris Paul? Darren Collison? Bledsoe’s got 20 lb on the guy, but I don’t think we should get too excited here.

    • Duncan

      exactly, he is unproven

  • thegloveinrapsuniform

    any trade that can get rid of Bargnani i’m all for it. but if trading for bledsoe only involves demar, ill probably re-consider. not because i like demar more, but Demar can probably fetch a better deal than just bledsoe. im worried about bledsoe’s fg%, turnovers and asts. if he’s going to be the starting PG, he needs to consistently get those perimeter shots in to open the lane for Gay and JV. But his numbers arent that attractive – http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bledser01/shooting/2013/

    Sure he’s a freak athlete but so are Demar, Ross and Acy.

    • enlightenment

      Average PG shoots about .425
      Bledsoe is at .445 with almost 40% 3pt!
      He is also known for his defensive tenacity over anything

      Im not sure if he is worth letting go of Demar still..

      • ghostdini

        “There are plenty of statistics to prove Bledsoe’s worth, such as his 19.55 player efficiency rating, ranking second in the league in steals per 40 minutes and his true-shooting percentage nearing the league average. However, his ability to lock down opposing point guards and cause havoc in transition make him unique in a league now dominated by guards.” as per Bleacher Report.

        • Meductic

          You had me until you attributed it to Bleacher Report. Oh well. Even a broken clock…

          • ghostdini

            I feel the same way.

  • johng_3

    To trade Derozen for Bledsoe just wouldn’t be worth it in my mind. He reminds me of Avery Bradley, a good athletic defender but hasn’t really proven he can run an offense. But if we were to pull off the trade, I would want Bargs and Kyle involved while we get Eric and Butlers expiring contract back. I think that would be fair.

  • EaseMyPain

    I think trading Lowry for Bledsoe is a wash at best. When his head is into it, Lowry is better. But no one is talking about Lowry’s head! He has pissed management and coaches off everywhere he has played. Him and his buddies have to be separated to start a new team.

  • Dr Scooby

    Clips fans think TO will sweeten any potential deal with draft picks…like that is going to happen.

  • Dr Scooby

    Frankly any deal between the Clips and Raps IMO will be for $$ reasons 1st and foremost and team needs 2nd in importance.
    Whether Lowry is better than Bledsoe or not is a moot debate as neither are the ‘future’ point guard of the Raptors. The Raps are re-booting by dumping salaries and drafting and having one or the other (or both) will depend on how they can factor in to the re-tooling process.

    • ghostdini

      How can you say Bledsoe wouldn’t be the PG of the future? His per 36 stats are 15, 5 & 5 with 2.5 steals. His also is a tenacious defender, something which is absolutely necessary in a PG dominated league. And he has the speed and strength for consistent dribble penetration.

      • Dr Scooby

        C’mon, If he’s sooo good why does it take an Affalo, DD or Bargs to possibly get him by trade…?

        Clips fans say Bledsoe can’t shoot and some are okay trading him for Bargs – and that was before CP4 said he’d resign.. He may be good player when given the chance, but I wouldn’t put too much stock of him being the future of the Raps at PG – i don’t want it.

        • ghostdini

          Dude, Affalo and DD are both good players. IMO, I would take Affalo over DD as he actually plays good D. IMO, Derozan has pretty much reached his ceiling. Check his 2nd and 4th year stats…virtually identical. I believe Bledsoe has more upside than both of them plus we need a PG of the future….AND HE PLAYS DEFENSE!
          http://www.nba.com/playerfile/demar_derozan/career_stats.html

          • Dr Scooby

            I know they are different players, but wasn’t that also the reputation of Lowry? “He’s a bulldog on defence…”
            If we end up with Bledsoe and he works out for us – I’m fine with that especially if we can dump El Mago’s contract along the way…but all I’m saying is temper your expectations.

  • RaptorFan

    I would rather trade Bargnani and Lowry for Butler and Bledsoe. I would even include a 2nd rounder for next year to make it happen.

    Clips get a good backup PG in Lowry and a Stretch 4 who is a decent shooter over his career PLUS Bargnani WILL play better with Chris Paul, Deandre Jordan and Blake Griffin

    Raps get a good young PG who can grow with our young guys AND can PUSH the ball and play more uptempo (which should be our style with the athletes we have – DD, RG, AJ, TR and Eric Bledsoe would make us dangerously fast and athletic!

    The biggest reason we do this deal would be to get rid of bargnani and get a decent backup SF in Caron Butler to replace AA

    We should NOT include DD! I still believe that DD will improve his 3 point shot and his defence. I think its in our best interest to keep DD to see how he improves this coming year.

  • Kovalainnen

    I’d rather give up our next year draft pick (top-5 protected) than Derozan, we are not getting into the lottery next year, there are too many playoffs contenders who’ll tank next season starting with Boston and Philly and probably Atlanta (if they won’t get Howard). Talking about the other teams – Milwaukee lost Elis and maybe Reddick, so they’re weaker too so I consider only 5 teams in the east are locked to be in the playoffs – Miami, Chicago, NY, Indiana and Brooklyn, The Raptors would be 6th or maybe even better, so that pick won’t give us a superstar :)

    • Dr Scooby

      I hear ya, and agree that the Eastern Conference looks weaker than usual. I like DD and hope he will get better, but from what I heard, this year’s draft class is the best since LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Anthony draft year. If true, then anyone in the lottery could be better than DD (or likely will be) and a lot cheaper.too.

      I don’t think the Raptors have a playoff competitive roster even though we’re well over the Cap…do you really want overpaid under performers like Gay, Bargs, Fields, and yes DeMar DeRozen around so we can maintain mediocrity? Or do we cut salary and draft like crazy -and attempt to build a truly competitive roster eh!

      • ghostdini

        r

  • Bears

    Any trade MU makes has be in keeping with the philosophy he brings. If the philosophy is to “tweak” the line up to become a better team then Bledsoe/filler for AB makes more sense. If the philosophy is to tank and rebuild through the draft then Bledsoe/filler for DD makes more sense, as long as move is accompanied by other trades that would see RG and KL traded for young talent/draft picks.
    Personally, I would rather see a rebuild philosophy that starts with tanking this next season. My reasons have been echoed by many on this site. The current core will not lead the Raps to contention. We don’t have one Allstar, let alone three. While DD/RG/KL are all good, they’re not Allstar caliber. JV is the only player on the team with that kind of ceiling but even if he ever becomes that good, that won’t be enough. For that reason, I hope MU does whatever he has to do in order to rebuild. Tank for Wiggins or fail trying.

  • Robert Archibald

    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228490/Raptors-Knicks-Close-To-Andrea-Bargnani-Trade

    Please let this trade happen, this would be too much of a tease to take away from us…

    • johng_3

      Discount Double Check all day and Camby returns to Toronto

  • Doug

    http://www.thescore.com/nba/articles/1184186-report-raptors-knicks-talking-bargnani-trade Very interesting read, and I would do this faster than the Clips-Raps Bledsoe for DeRozan trade(s).

  • redyraptor

    masai and casey have to be smoking some R ford shit to break up derozan and rudy gay..bargs and lowry is fair for Bledsoe..up to the clippers to take the best deal available..lowry is a good back up for paul and I suspect doc would get some sort of hustle out of bargs..do no break up dero and gay…