Blake’s already given you the rundown of the signing, and you’ve seen the juicy bits we have to look forward to. I thought I’d get another perspective on the signing, one directly from Indiana. Joining me on the Rapcast is Tom Lewis from Indy Cornrows.

Our discussion spanned the following topics:

  • How Hansbrough’s career and progressed since he came into the league from UNC
  • His projection into the pros considering where the Pacers picked him in the lottery (being a 4-year player had a lot to do with his pick)
  • Problems with concussions, vertigo, inner-ear infections in his rookie year
  • His best stretch of games (think playoffs)
  • The reason the Pacers let him go – it wasn’t his game
  • Indiana media reaction to Hansbrough’s contract being rescinded, and what the Pacers could have done
  • Problems with discipline – is it getting better or worse?
  • Strengths – rebounding, hustle, when he has an impact he HAS an impact
  • Is this a buy-low move? Potential for improvement – growth in his offensive game, missing mid-range jumper
  • Drawing parallel’s with Kenneth Faried’s role in Denver – Ujiri has a history of getting this kind of player
  • Was the lack of interest in his services over the last few days surprising? Is he under-rated or over-rated?
  • Relationship with David West and how it can help him in Toronto
  • Somewhere between Reggie Evans and Kenneth Faried..sort of

Grab the iTunes feed or the plain old feed. You can also download the file (12:24, 14 MB). Or just listen below:

The podcast did pretty much cover all that needed to be covered. The contract details were a little in the air and I simply think the bi-annual exception might have been used, hence the two-year rumour. If that is true, it would essentially be around the $2M range. As Blake said, it would really suck if any part of the MLE was used to sign him, because that means every other team dangling an MLE would have more to throw at a player than us. Update: It’s a 2yr deal at $3M each with the second being a team option – so the Raptors used part of the MLE.

The interesting part here was that the Pacers were apparently inclined to bring Hansbrough back, just not at the $4.1M price tag which is what his qualifying offer was at. So supposedly he wasn’t discarded due to lack of ability. For the Raptors, they filled an area of need, but with a low-skill, high-hustle player, which is what you’re essentially constricted to given where the Raptors are in terms of salary. I have some serious concerns whether he’ll be able to perform consistently against good opposition, because it sometimes looks like his effectiveness comes from being overly-aggressive which is not sustainable. He is very limited on offense in both passing and scoring (not too far above Reggie Evans but does have a hook that sometimes works) which means that the value he brings on the offensive glass better be high. There’s also the question of Quincy Acy, who on the surface looks to be a very similar player – unless the Raptors are entertaining placing Acy at the three for some reason.

Ujiri had Faried in Denver and although Hansbrough isn’t close to being as athletic or effective, I can see what he’s trying to do, but then again the whole Quincy Acy thing doesn’t compute with me. The comments about his friendship with David West are somewhat significant, the latter feeling that all Hansbrough needed was minutes. He’s not going to get those right off the bat in Toronto as he’s firmly behind Amir Johnson, but there is certainly a better chance to steal minutes over Johnson than West.

We knew coming in to the summer that any free-agent signing would be underwhelming, and while Julyan Stone firmly falls into that category, Hansbrough has the potential to surprise, if not for basketball than entertainment value. Besides, this town loves its Tie Domi types and if Reggie Evans can get consistent standing ovations at the ACC, Hansbrough should get a parade.

As of right now, the Raptors roster stands at 15 guaranteed contracts: Gay, Fields, Johnson, Lowry, Kleiza, Valanciunas, DeRozan, Gray, Ross, Acy, Camby, Novak, Richardson, Stone, and Hansbrough (pre-Hansbrough earlier depth chart). Obviously, there will be moves made around Marcus Camby (nice tweet, eh?) which would free up a potential roster spot to fill the glaring hole at PG. There’s also the Kleiza amnesty which means the Raptors could free-up two post by paying players not to play. Other than that, trade is the only way to go and the only way you’re going to get someone to take Kleiza is as part of a package where the package coming back makes even more money long-term. Sort of like the Rudy Gay deal.

Overall grade: C+. It has potential to work if Hansbrough develops a game, any game, but history says we’re basically getting the player we’ve seen the last couple of years.

  • footarez

    Seriously ? Why even bother posting such podcast which is recoreded with what….a toy ?

    • 2damkule

      i agree. RR should have used it’s largess to fly lewis up to TO and have a sit-down, 1-on-1 in a state-of-the-art studio. with jay-z producing it. and cherubs playing harps whilst riding on unicorns.

      in other words, fuck off.

      • footarez

        No one requires a sit down and a flight. It is not that hard to simply record it – not a phone call recorded using you cell phone to make it sound like it is the 60s all over again. When you do something – do it right.

    • Bendit

      Being picky today are we? So what if they used Google-phone and Tom sounded like he was in the corn rows.

    • Rjak27

      Rapcasts usually need additional compression.

      I would definitely recommend RR looking into running Rapcasts through a multiband compressor before posting.

      They’re really not hard to use.

  • Ds

    A meh signing at best. Won’t judge before seeing the rest of the moves. But if this is more or less it, then there’s a major disconnect between what the team needs and what the new GM thinks what the team needs.

    • foznik

      I know he’s a handful but I can’t help thinking we need someone to help AJ with the boards off the bench and the raps have signed more than a few high skill low motor guys who have turned out to be duds so I think TH is exactly what we need.

    • 2damkule

      isn’t decrying it as a ‘meh signing at best’ a judgement?

      • tweed8

        I think it was a meh of indifference, not good not bad, time will tell. I agree, meh.

        • 2damkule

          then how about, i dunno, just letting time tell. why try to define it as anything right now?

          • Copywryter

            2damkule – Given that rationale this site should not really exist.

    • Jamshid

      I am not sure what kind of players people expect UM to sign or trade for after the mess that BC has left for us. People need to realize that we are over the CAP and have no money or asset to bring in good players. This is it people … When BC was giving away those large contracts and picks away you should have realized that he is mortgaging the future of this franchise.

  • themasao

    Why would using part of the MLE prevent us from using the rest of it? According to Larry Coon: “This exception may be split and given to multiple players.”

    • 2damkule

      i was wondering that too, but i think what he meant was that if the amount exceeds the biannual exception, then all of it has to be used within the MLE…like, you can’t use all of the biannual, and then if there’s $500K left over, use the MLE to cover the difference.

      • themasao

        I dunno, he wrote “(bi-annual can be used on multiple players, MLE can’t)”. Sounds wrong to me…

        • 2damkule

          agree…but i think arse ‘knows’ that, and it was simply a mix-up in how he presented the terminology.

      • arsenalist

        Sorry for the confusion, fixed it to say what I intended to say.

        Basically, if we use part of the MLE, then any other team also enticing players with an MLE would have a financial edge over us.

  • 2damkule

    i dunno…seems a pretty small price to pay to ensure he doesn’t decapitate JV. unless he does it in practice. he is PSYCHO, after all.

  • Nilanka15

    I haven’t listened to the podcast so forgive me if I’m repeating anything. But I like the signing. Adds some much-needed “nastiness”, pretty much cements Amir as our starting PF, and it’s very low-cost (with 2nd year being a team option).

    Seems like a no-brainer to me.

    • Copywryter

      I agree with the cost but can’t help but think he’s part of a ‘soft tank’ strategy.

      – Casual fans get their JYD-Reggie Evans hero
      – Team gets someone who might turn a few blowouts into mere losses.
      – Overall change to the team is marginal

  • robertparrish00

    I like the signing.

    Let’s face it, either we get players that won’t have an impact and complain or we get a big name player with a huge contract and complain.

    • 2damkule

      hmm…there seems to be a common denominator…

  • bob

    I had to fight myself not to turn off this podcast.

  • dferraez

    Good move by the Raptors. Tyler will not disappoint.

  • Vimsanity

    A poor man’s Charles Oakley?

    • Vimsanity

      with less production and more crazy

  • Dunkenstein

    He is no doubt below Johnson in the pecking order but imo ahead of Acy. Hansbrough will be part of a 3 man rotation amongst Raps bigs playing behind Amir and Jonas Valanciunas. A good rotation.