The Massiah has answered our prayers.

According to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports, the Toronto Raptors and Sacramento Kings have agreed on a trade involving Rudy Gay. The deal breaks down as follows:

To the Raptors:

To the Kings:

Salmons will earn 7.6 million this season and is on the books for 7.0 million next season, but the second year is only partially guaranteed and can be waived for 1 million dollars (Ujiri will definitely waive him).

Chuck Hayes is slated to earn 5.7 million dollars this season and 6.0 million dollar next season.

Greivis Vasquez and Patrick Patterson’s contracts both expire at the end of this season.

Here are the per-game numbers of the incoming players:

per game

And the advanced statistics:

advanced

Somehow, some way, Masai Ujiri found his dance partner in this year’s equivalent of Bryan Colangelo (GM Pete D’Alessandro, formerly of the Denver Nuggets). In getting rid of Catch-22, we Yossarians are finally able to escape the endless “long-two and iso-ball” horror show.

Don’t get it twisted – this is little more than a salary dump for Masai Ujiri. Rudy Gay has a player option for 19 million next season and if Ujiri waives Salmons and renounces Vasquez and Patterson next off-season, the Raptors will save nearly 13 million dollars next season.

However the Raptors did acquire some interesting pieces. Vasquez (or Dad’s Grey Biscuits, as Tas Melas likes to call him) is a young pick-and-roll point guard who had a semi-breakout year with the Pelicans last season (14 ppg, 9 apg). He will likely slot in at back-up point guard (or starting point guard should Lowry be dealt) and help stabilize the rudderless bench unit.

Patterson is a pick-and-pop big who can stretch the floor. He will likely contend for minutes at power-forward (he’s too small to play center). Chucky Hayes (also undersized) is a solid post-defender and and excellent locker-room presence. Salmons is washed up and will probably be glued to the bench (remember how hard Colangelo tried to sign this guy? Irony).

A full breakdown and analysis of this trade will be posted tomorrow morning at 9 AM. I’ll leave you with my two cents on the deal:

  • AB4EYE

    Thank god

  • D

    With Vasquez in looks like Lowry is out

    • KJ-B

      I know eh–GRRRREEEAAAAT DAAAY for the Republic!!!!!

    • DDD

      i hope not. i like klow

  • Brian Leung

    Too bad we couldn’t get any picks.

    • AB4EYE

      I’m shocked we got what we did as bad as Rudy was playing.

  • AxlT

    No, not Gray! Seriously though.

  • Adriiian

    brought a smile to my face :) thank you masai!

    • KJ-B

      Courtesy @TDotFlight31 !!! #Finally TRoss gon get some burn!!!

      • Adriiian

        Haha. Good one!

        #LETSGORAPS

  • Donfiasko

    Yes! Salmons is finally a Raptor.

    • Minks77

      Maybe God will tell him to retire. Do far God looks like he enjoys fucking with john.

      • KJ-B

        ????!???

        • Minks77

          Salmons reneged on his previous agreement to play in toronto because god told him too. So far gods advice to him been pretty weak

          • KJ-B

            Ohhhhh yeah, a Karma play–forgot about that 1 hahaaa!!! We got Fred Jones instead…lolol

      • robertparrish00

        I tried to plus 2 that. Classic.

  • Chris

    Can someone post their contract lengths? thx

    • Kyron John

      Salmons has a $7M team option next season, Hayes is under contract for roughly $6M next season, Vasquez and Patterson are restricted free agents after this season

      • Guest2

        According to Basketball Reference Salmons 2014-15 contract is partially guaranteed for $1,000,000 if waived before June 30, 2014.

        • Nelson

          This trade just keeps getting better. Only Hayes $6Mil and Salmon’s $1Mil guaranteed for next season. I can see Vazquez taking over the starting PG role and Lowry getting traded to Chicago for a 1st round pick.

          I’m also looking forward to seeing some ball movement and less ISO plays.

      • Chris

        Beautiful! Nice job Masai! Not sure what the Kings were thinking.

    • hyperdouche
  • arsenalist

    Good riddance.

  • a train

    Ruys career is dwindling down the path that leads to nowhere. As for Toronto great move but sad to see Quincy go

    • KJ-B

      It’s possible he gets traded yet again in the next year, if he opts into that albatross Memphis deal’s last year… Mo’ Money Mo’ Problem$ exhibit A) Rudy Gay…. $19 mil expiring will be a powerful trading piece for Sac Town.

  • Andre Julian Ward

    Acy…… =(

    • Nathanael Schaeffer

      thats the only toe stub

    • StabbyRaccoon

      Raptors are substantially less beardy now, this is a sad day :'(. I like Acy more than I dislike Rudy.

    • Rap fan 2

      Hate to see Quincy go. Love his game. Q the Hulk!! Hopefully he’ll get more playing time and more opportunities in Sacramento as he keeps working at improving his game skills. Keep playing hard Q.

      • Nilanka15

        I liked Acy’s tenacity, but he wasn’t much of a player.

        • Jam

          Also, don’t sleep on Patrick Patterson…that guy is a talent and has shot 39% from 3 in the past. If he can work on his D with Casey, he’ll be a great bencher…might even earn a second stint with the raps next year (on a dirt cheap contract). I’m sure we can convince him to grow a beard….

          • Nilanka15

            lol

            The beard can be worked into any new contract.

  • jjdynomite

    Masai the Messiah. Salmon’s $7 mil in 2014-2015 + riding the bench >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rudy’s 19.3 mil in 2014-2015 + disrupting team chemistry + stunting the growth of our young bigs with iso-ball.

    Correction, Hayes $6 mil. Salmons will be bought out.

  • Mexiballer

    Wow! Love that trade. So thankful for Rudy being gone.

  • bob

    Apparently Masai and Rudy weren’t to happy with eachother.

    • Plus

      Where did you hear this?

      • bob

        Hoopshype

  • rtzyyz

    I can’t believe it. Masai is the real deal. First bargs. Now gay. Tommorow he will walk on water.

    • moe

      calm down, he didnt get a pick plus are they really tanking,? we finally found a reliable pg and more solid bench players plus now, shots are more distributed… this team may have gotten slightly better lol

      • Jamshid

        We are tanking :) DD’s number will drop significantly since Gay is not on the floor and he will be the main target for the other team’s defence. Next out of town will be Lowry and who knows, maybe Amir and DD :)

        • hyperdouche

          Well said, will be interesting to see the impact on DeRozan. I love the guy but he really benefitted from other teams’ defence focussing on Gay.

          • Jam

            I used to think that, but I think DeRozan has turned a corner and can handle being the #1 option. He’ll have to work harder for it, but he has confidence he never had before, and a swagger in his step too. I’d like to watch us crash and burn to get a shot at Wiggins, Parker, Smart etc…but this trade really does improve us overall. Last night the Raps played their most cohesive game of the year. Hopefully Lowry is next, that’ll be the most sensible move for us. Lowry is playing amazing ball and his value is sky high (we should be able to pry a 2014 pick for Lowry). With Vasquez as a back-up, we’ll probably end up a 9th or 10th team in the east, which is a piss poor situation for us moving forward. If they move Lowry, we’ll have a starting PG in Vasquez who’ll help JV and Ross develop, but our terrible back up PG situation should result in losses. As long as Casey is in charge, we’ll always be tank candidates (he almost let LA steal the game by closing the 3rd with 4 bench players on the floor, which dwindled a 13 point lead to 4 points). All that being said, lets all hope New York basketball gets their shit together so we can drop lower!

      • rtzyyz

        I don’t mind getting better. Screw the tank. Let masai make up the roster as he sees fit. If he wants to tank fine…No tank…fine…we got financial flexibility now, tradable asset in lowry. I think masai knows what he is doing. Unfortunately I don’t think casey Does.

        • Rap fan 2

          I think by trading away Rudy Gay the Raptors are in retooling mode.

    • Jamshid

      Wow, Great move from a Great GM.

  • Plus

    Damn about time… Gay was just a diva. Bring on a new coach now.

  • jjdynomite

    It will be funny to watch from afar to see how long it takes until Boogie attempts to strangle Gay for bogarting all the shots.

  • AB4EYE

    Vasquez can make some slick passes so he should be fun to watch, but I wonder how man of the other guys will be back on the move soon.

  • TheR3dMenace

    Addition by subtraction – Raps better now.

  • AxlT

    Will ppellico even come to say goodbye?

    • ppellico

      yes….goodbye.
      and I will miss a good deal of posters here. However…not the big hate on Gray.

      • DDayLewis

        Aww come on. Stick around! Pick a new favorite Raptor! Hayes is a solid big who can defend. What about him?

        • ppellico

          actuallly…I was starting to like Acy until he suddenly was banned to the bench.
          Besides…I really don’t like Casey’s coaching.
          I just DO NOT want to have to follow the chucker of all time chuckers!
          Plus…don’t like Lowry…think he complains to much…a real pouter.
          Ever since they traded Davis I have been pretty confused and worried about the direction.
          Then this whole run n gun…

          • AxlT

            so off to the sacramento blog then? well, come back anytime 😉

            Aaron Gray never got a fair shot here, even as a rotation back up . it’s too bad, I thought he played well when he was getting consistent minutes for a while there

            • robertparrish00

              Casey misused Gray. Period. When every other centre on our team opted to be power forward he stuck it out. Glad Casey can’t keep him on the bench anymore.

              • Ghotte

                Misused? Gray was a BARELY serviceable center. He was deserving of his 12th-15th place on the Raptor’s crappy roster b/c he’s got no skills. Yes, he could bang a bit but did you actually think he was more than a 4pt 6reb player in the league? You think he’s a rotation player?!

  • AB4EYE

    I guess Masai took notice how good they played with Rudy on the bench in the first quarter of the Suns game.

  • Thomas

    See ya Rudy! We won’t miss ya!

  • KJ-B

    “ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!!!!”

  • Tweed8

    I think Masai is a superhero in his off hours! It would have been nice to see Acy develop here though. Good luck to him.

  • D

    No jimmer?

  • Chris

    What’s in it for the Kings? I don’t get it

    • blackjitsu

      My guess is that they are freaking out because the leader of their locker room is Boogie Cousins.
      That would scare me into trading for a more sane captain

    • mountio

      I have no time for Rudy .. but its pretty obvious what the Kings get. He is a much better player than anyone in this deal. If you are trying to win now, you would make the same argument everyone made around here a year ago. It might not be a GOOD argument .. but its pretty obvious the gamble the Kings are taking ..

      • Chris

        The Kings are 5-13 with the 8th seed sitting at 12-9…they arent making the playoffs even if Rudy magically starts playing like an all-star

  • AB4EYE

    The biggest addition in this trade is that stat sheets are back in the locker room.

    • Mexiballer

      And the assist totals will be going up starting tonight.

  • rick

    Thank goodness

  • KJ-B

    MERRY CHRISTMAS RAPTORS REPUBLIC!!!!

  • Mexiballer

    Now Im going to enjoy the game tonight no matter what.

  • Garrett Hinchey

    All hail the Masaiah

  • Zubair

    If Casey has half a brain, which I doubt
    He will send Buycks and Stone to the D-league
    A Lowry, Vasquez, Augstine rotation is really strong. Along with a few other moves with the pieces we’ve acquired
    Demar and Jonas finally have some room to operate. The ship could turn around for a decent season at least, we all know the tanking project is a competition we will most likely not win. Even a 8th seed is something that can help us moving forward. Vaszquez in a contract year needs minutes man, the guy can straight up pass the ball and we have an abundance of scorers! Really happy with this move, if the coaching uses the pieces adequately.

    However, please also fire Casey
    Asap

  • Minks77

    So for the record: no contract is untradeable. Exhibit a was turkeyglue, exhibit B Rudy

    • mountio

      twice

    • DryDry

      Exhibit C bargabibaibiabaibnnani

  • mountio

    More time for TR. Casey had better play him (including through mistakes, which are bound to come) and see what we have. No more of this quick hook BS

    • StabbyRaccoon

      I can’t wait to see him play more minutes and start games so he can develop as a player. Win or lose, it doesn’t matter as long as the Raptors team improves, and axing Rudy lets them do it.

      • Jam

        Now Casey seriously needs to give JV and Ross CONSISTENT minutes….no more 37 minute JV games followed by a 15 min game. How’s this guy supposed to develop consistent play if he’s not allowed to make some errors and learn from them?? The only goal now should be making JV a star (and hopefully losing while we’re at it). I can’t wait to see his on the floor with Vasquez, JV is such an amazing Pick and Roll guy, and currently the raps run zero PnR’s…….even though its the single most effective play in NBA history…

    • ckh26

      For sure. This has a bit of the irony of moneyball the movie to it. MU will trade guys until Dwane has no one left to play but the guys he wants to see the floor.

      We have a pantload of PG’s now… 5 i think… Lots of suit time on the sidelines for at least two of Stone/Buckys/Augustine. Unless we can move Kyle to Chicago to back up or be lead with Hienrich.

      • Jam

        One of those 3 guys will have to be cut to bring us down to the NBA max of 15 players, so one of those guys is gone. My guess is Buycks, Augustin is still somewhat tradeable, and Stone is a defender. I love the idea of Lowry to the Bulls for Hinrich….but we gotta grab a pick in that deal too. The Bulls will do it, Lowry keeps them competitive and is off the books next year.

  • Captain_Dog

    Brilliant trade.

    Saved us 20 million next year, and all of these contracts are short-term/movable any time we want.

    So long Sir Chucks-a-lot… you will NOT be missed.

    Expecting Jonas to start playing amazing.

    Casey, you’re next… >_>

    • Jam

      Hey hey, if we wanna still tank, Casey needs to stay put!

  • hyperdouche

    Best of luck to Quincy Acy. Top class guy and the only Raptors second-rounder I can recall ever working out.

    PJ Tucker doesn’t count because he resurrected himself after being dumped.

    • arsenalist

      Uros Slokar had the same impact as Acy for the Raptors.

  • LF_Lock

    Whenever you have the chance to acquire a 6’6″ PG and a 6’6″ C in the same deal, you have to pull the trigger.

  • mountio

    So .. would u rather have Ed Davis plus whatever 2nd rounder they got (Jose was gone anwyways, so hes irrelevant) or this poo poo platter? I just thrilled to have Gay outa here and solidify the tank, but just wondering ..
    I think Id take Eddy D (plus the greater cap flexibility) myself …

    • DDayLewis

      1 year of Ed Davis or 1 year of Greivis+Patterson. It’s a toss-up, I suppose. Greivis was alright last season.

      • mountio

        Right .on the court probably a toss up… but since you have to take Hayes $6 mm next year, Id take the Ed option ..

        • DDayLewis

          6 million for Hayes vs the chance that Rudy opts in for 19 million

          • mountio

            oooooh trust me .. vs keeping Rudy, this is a no brainer, but vs never making the deal in the first place, Im still not sure
            And, despite the logic Ive heard people suggest, to me, there is a ZERO percent chance he opts out

            • DDayLewis

              Risk of injury is a very real thing, as is job security. There’s also a lot of teams with cap space and very few marquee free agents (I know Gay isn’t very good, but he’s still perceived to be). I’d say there’s a 60% chance he opts out (the chance increases with better performance).

              • mountio

                I think a trade like this (for really quite marginal players) solidifies the view that Rudy isnt very good. As a result, not sure that there are any teams out there that get duped into an extension big enough for Rudy to walk away. Iggy, different story .. he may not be perfect, but he absolutely brings something of value to a team (defensive stopper) – not sure Rudy does

                • DDayLewis

                  Price doesn’t always equal value in these types of deals, but you’re right in that the market has spoken on Gay (twice).

  • desktom

    Booger is going to strangle Rudy if he treats him like he has treated Jonas. I will be tuning to the Kings games waiting for the inevitable to happen. Everybody on the Toronto team with the exception of lowry must dancing the friggin conga.

    • ckh26

      OH YEAH… Cousins is a world class head case.. and if doesn’t get the ball … :-) Come early.. get a good seat bring some beers and popcorn .. this one will make the cleveland soap opera with waiters and irving tame…

  • FREEJV

    THE ONLY TRADES LEFT TO BE MADE: TRADING FIELDS and LOWRY. MASAI PLS ANSWER MY PRAYERS ONE MORE TIME

    • mountio

      Fields would be the ultimate. Just cant imagine anyone on the other side of that one ..

      • LB

        Feilds is actually the smartest raptor player and one of the best defenders on the team get a Good coach that actually knows how to run a team and youll see what am talking about.

        Casey will be let go then Lowry.

        Lowry cant play pick and roll Ball / Jonas will shine in a pick and roll offense
        hence he’s next. Jonas and Ross and DD are the future until we get a PG.

        • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

          I agree. Fields is overpaid, but he’s one of the few guys on the roster I’d actually want to keep.

          • LB

            true overpaid yes

    • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

      Why trade Fields? He’s overpaid, yes, but he’s one of the few players on the roster that has a high basketball IQ, plus he actually plays defense. If he can get his shot back, then he should be quite valuable.

      • Ghotte

        I’d take Fields over Salmons any day of the week. One could make a strong argument for trying Fields out as a starter (as opposed to TRoss.)

      • FREEJV

        omg enough with his shooting the guy will never get his shot back did you see how brutal he was today smh

    • Shadow Of Christ

      Fields yes, Lowry no. Why is everyone so amped about getting rid of Lowry?

      • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

        Why Fields? He’s actually a smart player who defends his position? Why Lowry? Because he’s not a smart player, makes boneheaded decisions and too often resorts to hero ball when push comes to shove.

        • Shadow Of Christ

          Boneheaded? Come on… Does his shot selection need work? Most def! Does that mean he’s not a smart player? Absolutely not! There only been maybe 3-4 games I’ve seen where Lowry play not so smart. Other than that, without Lowry, we have less wins right now, and get embarrassed in more games. That’s a fact! Now with Vasquez, there’s not much drop off from the PG spot, so Lowry doesn’t actually do as much AND be a bit more efficient.

          • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

            If I played with Lowry making the decisions I’ve seen him make, I might have strangled him by now. He makes bone-headed decisions. That’s not to say he doesn’t help the team win, but if he’s your starting point guard, I don’t see your team going anywhere. I see him as a better version of Brandon Jennings.

            • Shadow Of Christ

              I don’t know what games you’re watching. Maybe last year I would have agreed with you.

              • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

                I don’t know if I’ve watched a game this year where Lowry hasn’t made at least half a dozen decisions that made me shake my head. And that’s minimum.

      • FREEJV

        if we can get another 1st rd pick for this draft thrn we can draft a pg cuz its loaded with pgs.

        • Shadow Of Christ

          Meh… I’ve been saying that I trust Masai’s decision no matter what pick we get.

  • Puzzles

    Wish him the best in Sac-town, despite the agony he caused… Next to fall…Lowry? what about Fields and his ginormous humongous undeserving contract that is 19 per 3?

    • Shadow Of Christ

      Not too big on getting rid of Lowry. He’s our best on the ball defender, and with him and DeRozan, the Raptors have been watchable during this losing streak

  • Shadow Of Christ

    Unless another deal happens, I don’t see this as tanking. We’ve addressed key needs in this trades AND dumped Rudy Gay’s contract on someone else. Vasquez is Calderon 2.0… PG Controversy anyone?

    • mountio

      I think you have misread things then. I agree, playing guys like TR ahead of RG should actually help this team (certainly in the medium / long term) – but lets not kid ourselves, this is a salary dump and not a win now move at all. Zasquez is a nice piece, I agree – but more of a hedge for next year with lowry than a big help now…

      • Shadow Of Christ

        never said this was a Win-Now move, but it’s a win-win for sure! If we win more games in this weak East and make the playoffs, Win. If we bottom out and get a high draft pick; and have all these new guys come off the books, Win

    • Mexiballer

      I agree this isnt tanking. This team now has a chance to become a real team without Gay, and now has a legitimate backup point guard. But Masai may just be getting started. First objective was to get rid of Gay. Thankfully thats been done.

      • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

        The deal keeps the Raptors flexible. None of the players the Raptors are getting are very good, but the separate pieces are much easier to move than Gay’s big deal. Vasquez is a decent PG, but that’s it. The rest of the players were having horrible seasons in Sacramento.

        • Mexiballer

          I agree. My point was that this isnt tanking…yet. That if anything the Raptors will most likely play better for the time being. When I said “real” team, I didnt mean a “good” team. Just a better team without Gay.

        • Shadow Of Christ

          What’s good @Tim_W:disqus? I’ve said I wanted Vasquez from the offseason and we have him. Also, role players respond differently in different roles, so it will be interesting to see how this all pans out

          • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

            Vasquez is basically a poor man’s Calderon. He might be worse on both ends of the court.

            If nothing else, Vasquez helped New Orleans get the top pick last year. Hopefully he’ll help Toronto get it this year.

            • Shadow Of Christ

              That’s what I said. Calderon 2.0. I like it from a backup PG standpoint as we now have a serviceable backup PG who can start if need be.

              • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

                He’s Calderon 2.0 if DeMar DeRozan is Vince Carter 2.0. I thought the versions were supposed to get better. Not worse.

                • Shadow Of Christ

                  I disagree, but we can’t always agree on everything

  • Huey Newton

    I’d just like to gently remind everyone that the players we got back are probably some of the least valuable players in the NBA. Hopefully the tank works, oh god please let the tank work — but this gamble had better pay off for this sorry, sorry franchise.

    • DDayLewis

      Gamble? What exactly did the Raptors lose in this deal?

    • jjdynomite

      That’s stupid, Huey. Vasquez was 14-9-almost1stl as the starting PG for New Orleans. Raptors have to shell out $13 million less next year to Rudy the Chucker. The bigs (Jonas, Amir and hopefully Patterson) will play better with an AST man like Vasquez feeding them the ball. Least Valuable Players, now, really?

      • Huey Newton

        The Sacramento Kings dude. The Sacramento Kings.

        • jjdynomite

          Then the tank WILL work if you think the incoming players are scrubs (yes, I acknowledge Hayes and Salmons are truly scrubs). Gay is very likely the least valuable offensive player in the NBA given his 7 figure contract, his 6th highest usage rate and his NEGATIVE OWS. Simply put, Gay is terrible; beyond failing the eye test, he is terrible. As Arse wrote, good riddance.

    • ckh26

      Don’t see it as a gamble at all. We just were able to let go a financial albatross. Vazquez is a legit PG.. and Patterson is still a young PF at 24. He was a 1st round mid level pick. Has promise. Hayes is a decent locker room guy. Salmons ..just don’t know. Acy and Gray weren’t playing here. So we are out Rudy and a bazillion dollars which we can easily replace with Demar and coming back in is a book still out PF in Patterson and a legit PG in Vazquez… No draft choices but that would be just to much to hope for . Good deal for us and I hope a good deal for Sac

    • Puzzles

      I really don’t think this is the only trade for the Raptors this season. Remember, it’s only december and the deadline is late February. While I don’t think this trade is a clear indication of the Raptors’ record this season, ensuing trades will provide us with an idea. We can put our heads together all we want to discuss where this particular trade gets us, but the only thing we know for certain is that it gives the team financial relief. Lets all just watch as Masai does his job and discuss whether if the trade was a gamble, or a calculated move that ultimately leads to either a top pick or a playoff spot.

  • ckh26

    So the math says we will be in the around 33M’ on next year on committed salary.. If we pick up the options on Patterson and Vazquez and AMir it’ll be around 45-47.. Leaves a fair bit of folding money to be spent and what makes this great is that it won’t be spent by BC. This assumes we don’t pick up the option on Salmons.

  • Paul

    1) Who is tanking here? Sacramento gives up a point guard and adds a ball stopper to an already stagnant offense. The Raptors improve their bench significantly
    2) How long before Vasquez supplants Lowry in the starting lineup, whether by trade or simply based on superior offensive play?
    3) Is this deal better than the deal rumored over the summer of Gay for Gorden and Villanueva? That deal was a better salary dump. I guess it depends on whether Patterson or Vasquez is actually worth extending after this season.

    • ad

      1) Raps lost their best defensive player. And if DD is your best offensive option, your in trouble. I suppose they COULD be better but im really hoping they are not and its not likely. Still think its a tank move.

      2) Lowry’s gone by the deadline. Vazquez is a nice piece. Hes a calderon lite PnR clone that doesnt play d. Hes not a starter on a good team though.
      3) This deal is probably a little better talent wise. Still, not getting back much talent.

      • Golden_Pup

        Wait, who’s their best defender? You mean Gay? Seriously?

        • Tanks-a-lot

          He will be or Cousins will literally kick his ass.

        • TheTyrant

          Def not best defender. But his weak side blocks and rebounds were nice

      • Shadow Of Christ

        You mean Gay was a better defender than DeRozan. LOWRY is the team’s best defender!

    • TheSpiceTyrant

      Actually… KLs been playing heavy minutes. If there’s a true backup (like he had in Houston) he could play a more efficient 36 odd minutes, being the 2/3rd scoring option.

      I don’t see the tank, not unless either KL or DD are gone.

  • http://www.idolizingclowns.com/ IdolizingClowns

    I love this move although it’s hard to tell if this makes us better or worse right away. This may be enough to springboard us back into the playoff picture and that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Either way I think Masai has already earned himself a contract extension in the eyes of many Raps fans.

    • ad

      IT IS a bad thing. This team doesnt need any short term playoff picture crap. They need an elite talent by sucking really bad and picking high in the draft. Then we can talk about playoff picture next year or the year after.

  • ad

    REALLY hope this makes the team worse. On one hand, you are losing gays inefficient chucking, which should make the team better, but gay was also probably the best defensive player, so the d should suffer. I hope lowry and dd are gone next. Keep the tank rolling masai!!

    • LB

      Gay Good Defender?????????????????? Are you watching the same games dude?

      • ad

        He is their best defender, when he wants to be. His height, length, and quickness causes problems.

        • LB

          Sounds like someone *cough Vince Carter
          what good 3 can Gay defend Name 1 please

          Lebron, Melo, Barnes, Ai, Johnson? he cant even guard old man Peirce or force a bad shot

    • Thomas

      our best defender is Landry Fields in terms of perimeter defending, and in terms of interior defending it’d probly be Amir. Rudy wasn’t even close to being a good defender

  • Kujo2020

    Hallelujah! Rudy is gone. Masai working his magic. Only negative I could say about this trade is we get no draft picks. 20 mil in free cap space next season, and lots more flexibility.

    The Kings are a desperate team that needed a roster shake up, so I totally get the trade from their perspective.

    I like Vasquez’s game. He’s fun to wach. A gigantic improvement over our current scrub backup PGs. Perhaps this mean’s Lowry is the next to go. I do think he’ll be traded. Vasquez is insurance, even it’s for only one season.

  • rapierraptor

    Things are finally exciting again in Raptorland! Three cheers to Masai!

    • Louvens Remy

      I agree about the Fredette thing.

  • LB

    Deal is good Gay is a cancer Locker Room Spirit Killer just look at previous games DD was getting fed up of the RG blow bys he a terribly bad defender! Ross will get minutes now so OPPG will go down. The starting lineup should look like this now KL,DD,TR,TH when healthy and JV
    TH and JV and even Amir will play big to big passes in paint
    Ross and DD have no problem feeding post as opposed to Black Hole Gay.
    I forsee a happier team that will play better defense as a result.

  • ckh26

    Small Forward

    Centre

    Power Forward

    Demar

    JV

    Patterson

    Novak

    Amir

    Hansbrough

    Fields

    Hayes

    Daye

    Shooting
    Guard

    Point Guard

    Ross

    Lowry

    Salmons

    Vazquez

    DJ

    Buycks

    Stone

    • rapierraptor

      Jesus. This formatting is nearly unintelligible.

  • DrFunk

    so much cap space in the summer now, if we ACTUALLY play JV and Ross for development purposes we ll tank our way to the lottery + FA signings/trades (dont know who s available next year but i bet they re better than rudy gay)

  • Caprice

    GOOOOOT Damn it THATS HOW YOU TRADE EM MASA
    Look ive already spoken to a few people about this and the only thing they care about is the fact that rudy is gone, There is atleast 4 more things that Urji did for this club except for putting the axe to one player.
    1. Yes addition by subtrtaction: Rudy (black hole) Gay and Kyle (trigger happy) Lowry are the main reasons why Toronto is dead last in assist per game, we have never had this issue….well to my memory we havent
    2. I really like(d) Acy but he wasnt getting a chance to contribute, and even how they were grooming him (defending against bigger threes on the block?) I dont think that worked out, really the only big name lost is Rudy homosexual sorry Gay.
    3. Who do we get back, Vasquez who was one the candidates for most improved player, Patrick patterson who is a young forward who can compliment Jonas if they play, of course John aint the same player….he is now trash…and chuck is also a 6’6 centre who like Joel anothony isnt some one teams are lining up to get.

    4. As you all know Terrance, Jonas DDR will all have way bigger parts in the offense…….i dont know if this is a tankable team, but its not going to be the “best” raptors team yet…….Please Masa please get a name brand coach and a proper back up centre Omar Asik would be so perfect

    • Ghotte

      I think Salmons’ gets traded to a contending Western team needing wing depth — Houston anyone.

  • Puzzles

    I remember when Rudy gay first came to Toronto, and scored his first bucket off the half court lob from Demar, I threw my arms up and yelled, and smiled as the Clippers’ commentator said something about Vince Carter. I feel kinda dumb now that I did the same thing when I saw the report on my phone…in public…
    While I like the idea of a full rebuild…for like the fifteenth time, I don’t think DD should be dealt. My eyes got watery when I saw rumors about Bledsoe for Demar a couple months back (maybe not the correct response now?…), but my point is, Demar is young and growing as a player, if any one should be dealt, the reasonable one should be Lowry… right? am i alone in this?

    • Ghotte

      We traded away a highly-talented rusted engine and got back some scooters. I call this a WIN!! I’m having trouble guessing which way this could go but yoou have to give props to the GM for this move. If nothing else, it provides another set of games to assess things before the trade deadline. Fantastic work.

    • LB

      Totally Right! Every1 here is Wiggums horny but fail to understand that he wont be able to it by himself you are going to need peices in place and DD is the most trustworthy Raptor and the only 1 that ive seen that has improved every year you dont trade guys like that!

      Lowry may be good with the right coach but you cant teach player vision which he doest have and neglect the fact he cant play pick and roll. LOWRY HAS 0 quick release pass/ lobbs BALL SENSE how do you have a team with TR DD and RG and dont have 3 lobbs per game easily beats me

      • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

        DeRozan is a low IQ player who is below average defensively. Yes, a good scorer, but he’s becoming very overrated by Raptor fans. Not exactly the best player to be part of a team’s foundation.

        • LB

          Dont Agree, Nick Young, Brandon Jennings Gerald Green Low IQ and Cant see how you can say DD is in Same boat. If your going to speak to his ineffecient scoring this year so far you would know if you’ve ever play competitve basketball playing with a black hole every1s #s go down cause your just chucking whenever you get a chance to touch the ball or your you get a bail me out pass which is not necesarily the best shot!

          Defensive yes your almost right but he does have the tools to do better

        • Ghotte

          My eye test doesn’t have him as below average. Other than consistently getting caught out on pick and rolls – which is a team issue primarily – he’s making more of an impact on the defensive end this year. He might have been poor but not anymore. Average at worst.

          • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

            Perhaps you have Rudy Gays’ eyes (sorry, couldn’t resist).

            I think DeRozan has improved, but I still see him as a negative on that end.

        • One relaxed fella

          I hope the true colors will show and we’ll see how good of a scorer he really is (like most of the fans hype about him) once the opposition defense puts their best defender on him, not on Rudy. Then it’s going to be clear how much DeRozan has really improved. I don’t think he will be able to cope with the role of becoming the No 1 scorer in the team. Personally I don’t see nothing that would stop me from trading him right now.

          • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

            I hope we DON’T see a decline in DeRozan’s play before Ujiri can sell high on him. The worst thing to happen is for DeRozan don’t go in a slump, right now.

        • Louvens Remy

          So since he’s so 1 dimensional how could he possibly have value? Who do u want as the starting SG? I’d love to hear a realistic trade where u get a player better than DD at SG. Who is the guy u want?

          • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

            A players value isn’t directly related to his production. And it’s heavily influenced by each GMs opinion of a player. Lots of people thought Bargnani and Gay were untradeable, but both New York and Sacramento valued them. And DeRozan’s value is MUCH higher than either of them.

            As for starting shooting guard? Who cares, at this point. The goal shouldn’t be to immediately replace him with a better shooting guard. It should be to better prepare the team for the future.

            As for a trade, stay tuned for that. I mention a couple of DeRozan ones in an upcoming column…

    • Shadow Of Christ

      Yes and no. Lowry isn’t bad in of himself. He’s just not a good PnR player which he constantly gets knocked for, quite unfairly I may add. At best, Lowry is a poor man’s Chris Paul. He can score and is getting even better at finding players. He’s our best on-the-ball defender, and has been solid as of late. If anything, I’d like to see the team keep him and Vasquez long term, although that’s not likely. If we do trade him, I would want a solid backup PG in return or a lock down defender to offset that loss. Keep in mind that with Rudy gone, Kyle is now the second leading scorer on the team. DeMar must stay. Lowry should stay, and if he keeps playing well, he will.

  • Antoine Rose

    all we have to do is release julius stone and that bum DJ augustine and we good

    • LB

      STone i Agree but Augustine may be a casualty of bad coaching and offensive schemes

      • Ghotte

        Augustine is a casualty of being a head case. Not coaching. He couldn’t cut it in LA and he couldn’t cut it with Indiana. Were they all playing games with him or was it merely his brain?

        • LB

          LOL YOU MAKE IT SOUND SO FUNNY BUT INDIANA HE WAS GOOD THEY JUST HAS TOO MANY PGS IN THE FOLD

  • ckh26

    Some pretty good RFA’s next year for our newfound 20M

    Eric Bledsoe, Greg Monroe, Gordon Hayward, Ed Davis , Sefalosha , Evan Turner..

    and some UFA’s

    Marcin Gortat, Luol Deng
    and prretty much everyone on the Heat and the Lakers (not advocating we look at bosh or have even a snif at Lebron)

    • Ghotte

      Then only two RFA’s on your list that I’d consider are Monroe and possibly Hayward. Turner doesn’t fit the Raptors and Sefalosha is barely starter quality. Not sold on Bledsoe as anything other than a 6th man candidate. Both listed UFA’s should be taken out back and put down.

  • Dupont Koo

    Thank god the Kings have the New Owner Syndrome…Golden State had that before Jerry West
    joined the club as a consultant…

    Can’t believe Masai used Gay to snatch that many decent assets: other than the 3 expirings (!!!), we get a good character locker room presence (Hayes), a good stretch 4 in Patterson and a borderline starting PG in Vasquez…

    Now we can choose to trade any of the 3 decent PFs we have (Amir, Hansborough, Patterson), depends on who is more suitable to play with Jonas V. (my guess is Patterson)….and with Vasquez, we can now choose to trade him or
    Kyle…

    Plus, there are always dumb GMs out there who will over-pay for Salmons at the Feb Deadline!

    Dumping Bargs & Gay in 2 trades are already miracles, let alone getting decent assets in return!!!

  • nah

    Great J. Heller reference.

  • TheJimmie

    “NOOO its Rudy Gayyyy! Noooo! Not this guyyyy!!!! Not this guyyyy!!! AOOOOHHH MY GOD, D’elassandro you F***in a***e!” Says Sacramento

  • robertparrish00

    I am so used to seeing us giving up draft picks in every trade I don’t know what to think. Masai is pretty awesome!!! Time for a Casey dump.

  • Raptogram

    How many got the reference to Catch 22 and Yossarian. All I can say is, this trade is really good if you are a fan of tear down and long-term build.

  • golden

    I don’t understand the elation over the Gay trade – it’s like getting excited over winning an accident claim. Where are the draft picks? Where are the young players with untapped potential – other than Acy? This is a salary dump for a bit more cap space a year or so in the future. But more importantly, this is selling Rudy Gay at the absolute lowest imaginable market value of his NBA career. Good riddance, true, but calling MU the ‘Massiah’ is a pretty low standard to hold MU to and definitely nowhere close to the ‘championship’ level. Maybe it’s an indictment of BC, but MU is not scott free on this one. After seeing coaches like Brad Stevens and Brett Brown coach the Celtics and Sixers to play way above the talent level of all of the experts and fans expectations, I’m convinced that MU messed up badly by not changing the coach this past off-season. Gay needed an organized, strict coach who would keep him on a short leash, and instead he got Casey and ‘blossomed’ in to the 10 cents on the dollar trade asset that came to Toronto with the league wide rep as the ‘next guy to make the leap to all-star’. Incredibly, it only took 51 games in Raptors uniform to plummet guys stock faster than Blackberry. I’m disappointed, MU.

    • DDayLewis

      Memphis got an expiring in Calderon and a prospect in Ed.

      Toronto got an expiring in Salmons, dead weight (but serviceable player) in Hayes, and two prospects in Patterson and Vasquez.

      Yeah, Gay’s value definitely “plummeted”. Let’s all grab our pitchforks and chastise Masai Ujiri! How dare he not get Lebron in return for a terribly inefficient+overpaid player in Gay?

      • golden

        Not calling for MU’s head or anything, but just not dancing on the tables like some fans here. It’s kind of like celebrating a divorce. When he changes the coach, I will definitely have at least a fist pump – regardless of who is incoming.

      • http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/ Tim W.

        I don’t know if I’d call a 27 year old player a prospect. That’s how old Vasquez is. And he’ll be 28 next month.

        As for Patterson, I think prospect is a little strong a word for him. I’d use the term “fodder”.

      • Louvens Remy

        I like a couple of the players but this trade was straight salary dump in my opinion. Plus the Kings actually did something smart by picking up Rudy. because Rudy will opt out and Sacto will have dumped a bunch of deadweight and salary.

    • Shadow Of Christ

      You say that as if Rudy Gay made us championship level. This is a start. And don’t make no bones about it: Casey WILL be fired before the end of the month (unless tanking is truly the plan).

  • Maitch

    Will be interested to see if JV and Vasquez play much together. Good PnR players, JV could get some offense going again

  • SR

    Stat sheets in the locker room again! Yaaaay!

    You know that every post game the Raps are gonna pass around Sacto’s stat sheets with Gay’s 4/27 FG highlighted, then they’re all gonna laugh and crack champagne. They won’t even care if they win or lose – they’re just happy to enjoy playing basketball again.

    MU is getting the Gatorade dumped all over him as soon as this team gets back to the ACC.

  • One relaxed fella

    Well, I don’t know. Vazquez is nice, but what’s going to be with Lowry? What about the starting SF position, is it enough to have Fields as a starter? Patterson is ok. Hayes and Salmons are useless. This trade gives a lot of space to move and it even allows Raptors to save a lot of money for the next or 2015 free agency. But the most important question I ask is what type of move is it? First of all it’s a salary dump move, but does it improve Raptors now? I don’t think so. It’s more of a rebuild/ retool trade rather than win now trade. Or maybe it’s a tanking trade? Somehow I was expecting to get a pick in return for Rudy and I have a feeling that there will be one more trade before Christmas (?).

  • One relaxed fella

    It looks like Lowry could be next. Here’s what Marc Stein reports: http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/662/raps-kings-likely-not-done-dealing

    • Shadow Of Christ

      I hope not… I like Lowry. He’s our best on-the-ball defender and he’s playing nice right now. I say we should keep him as long as possible. If Ujiri does trade him, swap him at the deadline to get a higher return. But Lowry and Vasquez? The return of TJ Ford and Calderon (in a good way)! #PGcontrovsery

  • TheTyrant

    Stats sheets back in da locker room Beatches

  • tonious35

    No more: “Pass me the ball and let me chuck it because I am paid $19 Million dollars!! You are obligated to pass me the ball!!!”””

    • Shadow Of Christ

      $18 mill… $19 million is his option… That being said, I agree wholeheartedly

  • tonious35

    In Sacramento’s case… Demarcus Cousins and Rudy Gay??

    • Junior Qamar

      Cousins is a beast would of loved to see him in a tdot uniform. Or even their 2015 1st rounder I dont see sac being a playoff team for a long time. Mediocre trade.

  • Louvens Remy

    The real problem w this team is the coach. He should have been the first to go.

  • TheSpiceTyrant

    Didn’t Salmons NOT want to come to Toronto from Philly? Hence to SAC? This would bode well for TRoss

  • Louvens Remy

    Seems like the Raps got better as a basketball team. The only way they tank is if they trade LOWRY and/or VASQUez

  • Hassan Mehmood Khan

    hopefully this means more touches for valanciunas

  • ScottSegal

    Santa came early , I wonder if BC called MU to congratulate him on scooping Salmons

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