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96 Toronto Raptors
Amir Johnson, PF Shot Chart 32 MIN | 1-6 FG | 1-2 FT | 4 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 2 BLK | 2 TO | 3 PTS | -8

Not Amir’s best game, not Amir’s worst game. He played well on defence and had a monster block on Plumlee. He wasn’t good from the floor on the offensive end, but he did the dirty work of setting screens and fighting for position that helped enable others to score. Lunch pail game.

B-
1

Jonas Valanciunas, C Shot Chart 22 MIN | 2-9 FG | 4-6 FT | 9 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 0 TO | 8 PTS | -22

Valanciunas’ field goal% isn’t always awesome, but he’s developed quite the knack for calmly tipping his rushed shot misses back in. I love Jonas’ attitude; he doesn’t need to be the focus of the offence in order to not sulk and check out like DeMarcus Cousins, he just wants to be involved. Give him a couple post ups, a pass when he seals his man well and rolls to the rim off of a pick and giving him the opportunity for a short jumper when he’s left open. Just let him be on the team and he’ll hustle hard up and down each end of the floor and grind. I’ll take it.

B
150

Kyle Lowry, PG Shot Chart 35 MIN | 4-11 FG | 1-2 FT | 6 REB | 4 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 12 PTS | +10

Kyle Lowry though! The internets has ablaze today with reports of the Raptors deciding that they’re content to keep Lowry for the rest of the season and compete. It was awful nice of Kyle to show up tonight in a way that makes all of us Raptors fans feel pretty good about that choice. Kyle has cleaned up his gambling habits on defence and rediscovered his elite defensive status. He held his own against the much larger Pierce, Joe Johnson and Alan Anderson tonight. There are not many point guards who can guard those 3 names, and even less of them at Lowry’s height. His ability to hit a 3 from the top peel of the arc whenever this team really needs one is uncanny.

A
149

DeMar DeRozan, SG Shot Chart 37 MIN | 9-18 FG | 7-8 FT | 7 REB | 5 AST | 1 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 26 PTS | +7

DeMar DeRozan got angry in the 4th quarter of this game when it mattered and it… was… awesome! DeMar is embracing his role as a leader of this team and is seemingly growing more confident with each passing week. He’s slowly learning to utilize his athleticism on defence, but even as that lags, the impact he’s making in transition out of a bolstered team defence is a big weapon. A DeMar who is engaged on both ends, gets to the line and shoots 50% is a very good NBA player.

A-
177

Terrence Ross, SG Shot Chart 34 MIN | 4-10 FG | 3-4 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 14 PTS | -7

Terrence Ross 3-pointers have quickly become one of the best parts of my day. His jumper is so pretty that it seems like something isn’t right whenever it doesn’t go in. It felt like there was a constant glitch in the matrix last season. It’s exceptionally satisfying to watch the ball almost go in as much as I expect it to now.
Ross has been embracing the rebounding role of the small forward position. It’s hard not to hear a “boing” sound effect in your head whenever he floats up for a defensive board. He’s not playing like a super star, but I’m pretty happy about not selling any of my T-Ross stock yet.

A
121

Patrick Patterson, PF Shot Chart 28 MIN | 5-12 FG | 3-4 FT | 12 REB | 1 AST | 3 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 14 PTS | +40

Nothing gets sports colour commentators and analysts more excited than when good bench players go off. And Patrick Patterson gave Devlin and Armstrong everything they needed to have a 4th-quarter-long on-air celebration of Patterson.
Patterson is an awesome bench big man. He’s poised, big enough to be a proper 4 and rebound but has enough of a 3 pointer to stretch the floor. Most importantly though, he’s really embraced his role off the bench and thrived in that lane. Terrific night for PP, proving that he’s good enough to play crunch time minutes when he’s on (and guarding a big man duo of Mason Plumlee and Mirza Teletovic, but still).

A+
140

Chuck Hayes, PF Shot Chart 14 MIN | 1-3 FG | 2-2 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 4 PTS | +22

Does anyone know if Chuck Hayes has a good sense of humour? If I call him Chunk Hayes, do you think he’d be upset? Do you think he would do the truffle shuffle? Too far? You’re probably right.
Chuck Hayes didn’t do a lot in limited minutes. He got himself in a helpful offensive position to get 4 points, but he also gave up a pair of wide open corner 3s to Teletovic because he couldn’t close out to the corner fast enough.

B+
113

John Salmons, SF Shot Chart 24 MIN | 5-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 1 AST | 3 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 13 PTS | +32

It’s difficult criticize someone much when they don’t miss a single shot. Casey has shown a lot of trust in the grizzled ole’ vet, and did so again tonight by subbing him in to finish the game with a super small lineup with Patterson at the 5. Again, it’s tough to criticize results.

A-
113

Steve Novak, SF Shot Chart 1 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | 0

Do players resent getting subbed in for the useless final 60 seconds of a game that’s already over? Seem’s like an embarrassing pity compliment more than anything else.

B
60

Greivis Vasquez, PG Shot Chart 13 MIN | 1-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 3 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 2 PTS | +6

Old Man Pierce made General Greivis look like he was stuck in slow motion twice during a 2-minute stretch of the 4th quarter. If you were wondering if Greivis Vasquez is fast, he is not. He is, however, really good at hitting the rolling big man with a perfect pass. While an improvement at backup point guard, I still get antsy when the 4th quarter starts ticking by with Lowry on the bench.

C+
98

Julyan Stone, SG Shot Chart 1 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | 0

Julyan Stone exists.

B
52

Dwane Casey

Give Dwayne Casey props, he had a huge athletic advantage over the Nets and thats the game-plan he employed. They used their speed and explosiveness on defence and pushed the ball in transition. The Raptors circled the ball through a series of quick pick and rolls on offence to keep the slow footed Nets moving and finding the open man behind the arc and rolling to the rim. This is a team that is showing sensational character, poise and effort on both sides of the floor. Casey even got daps from Drake for his solid suit game. That’s an all around A+ evening for Coach Casey if I’ve ever seen one.

A
97

Four Things We Saw

  1. I love Drake, but I feel like he can do better than being the Ryan Seacrest of the Toronto Raptors. I’m not saying I have a better idea of how to use him, but there has to be one, right?
  2. Brooklyn plays the most old man NBA game ever. Every third possession is a slow iso back-down into the low post.
  3. Dick Bavetta looks an awful lot like someone who chose his cup unwisely in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. I’ll admit it; I had a “is it a good idea that Grandpa is still allowed to drive?” moment when he called a foul on Lowry for getting elbowed in the face by Paul Pierce right before half. But moving on from my petty comments in jest, if I can move up and down the floor all night like Mr. Buvetta does at that age I’ll be thrilled. Good on you Sir.
  4. Why couldn’t the extended Drake interview have been during the completely irrelevant halftime show instead of during 2nd quarter play. Devlin and Armstrong flat out ignored ten minutes of the game for a conversation with our boy Aubrey about… I don’t even remember what. And neither do you, because you were trying to watch the game and it was more distracting than interesting. The minute Drake took off his headset someone with courtside seats got hit with the ball and spilled his beer everywhere and that was it for Devlin and Armstrong even pretending to notice their was a game going on for the next five minutes. In their defence though, can you imagine anything more interesting than one fan’s reaction to having his beer splashed all over him? The slow motion replays, camera’s repeatedly checking back in on him and a detailed discussion of the virtues of having a lid on your plastic beer glass are totally justified. That’s just great television.

  • AB4EYE

    Patrick Patterson at one point had one of the more odd lines in NBA history where he was shooting just 1-for-8 but had a +37 plus/minus before he made his final 4 shots all up 10 or more points in only to pick up a +3 during that run of going 4-for-4 with half his point total.

  • AB4EYE

    D.J. Augustin with 20 points and 12 dimes off the Bulls bench while we are paying most of his money because DC wanted to play D-League players like Buycks and Stone costing us early games this year and will likely end up costing us future games with DC having no faith in Vasquez who’s getting the least amount of PT since his rookie year.

    • afrocarter

      I don’t miss Augustin one bit.

      • feylines

        dj’s beard is not a beard you can trust

        • Ion66

          Beard truth.

      • AB4EYE

        I bet you will in the playoffs when DC runs Kyle into the ground and Vasquez is given more PT.

        • raptorstand

          isn’t it wonderful after beating a team by 16 that we would normally lose to the past 5 years we got a bunch of old wet hens and negative Nancys telling us how we didn’t win right. Tankers have turned into whiners.

          • AB4EYE

            They don’t have 3 stars and played double OT last night and gave us all we wanted before fading due to no depth from all the injuries.

            • raptorstand

              Yea sucks to be them, old men being run out of the gym by our young home grown talent. This aint last years Denver team this is a team that plays shut down d in crunch time. In all of their wins since gayness left , they have turned it up on the defensive end, that my friend is the sign of a really good team.

              • AB4EYE

                Other than DD our home grown talent didn’t do much, we play D in late game because teams are tied form playing back-to-backs.

                • raptorstand

                  yea ok we suck , they got lucky, the nets were a far better team but Toronto got lucky because they didn’t play last night. Fire the whole team Raptors should have beat them by 30 and they only beat them by 16 abreye says that aint good enough and they suck. Jesus what a joke.

                • AB4EYE

                  That is closer to reality than we’re good.

                • john

                  So start watching curling then.

                • raptorstand

                  You need a serious jolt of reality , you don’t have a clue about basketball , you have a small point with the back to back crap , but they have been winning the games that they should, we lost 50 fing games last year , we are starting two 21 year olds, the team is really young and learning to win and this is bad ???? enough, but the bottle down , your being an ass

                • AB4EYE

                  The East has never been this bad, EVER!

                • Paul

                  Even though I’m sure you’re just trolling, I’ll have a go…
                  Before the Detroit game the Raptors had the third hardest schedule in the league. So the weak East has nothing to do with it.
                  Indiana was on a back to back when we beat them. So were we.

                  There is really nothing to your back to back argument either. We’ve beaten fresh teams off of back to backs and we’ve also won a few against teams on back to backs. This is true for every competitive team in the league.
                  As for the Brooklyn injury excuse, how were your Nets playing when they had a healthy Brook Lopez or Deron Williams?? They are playing their best ball of the season without those guys.
                  This argument also doesn’t hold water.

                  Stop trolling. Go to bed. You have school on Monday..

                • AB4EYE

                  That SOS is result of playing Portland, Miami, OKC and Indy over a short period while losing several games to start inflating those teams win totals.

                • john

                  No it isn’t. It’s been consistently high the entire season.

                • AB4EYE

                  We played a few good teams in a short people thus it raises the SOS. Just look how much us playing the Bucks effects us after the next game.

                  We are 3-13 vs winning teams and 15-4 vs losing teams which is 2nd to the Pacers int he east. Our whole SOS is based off the 3 games with the Pacers, 2 with Miami and one with SA, OKC and POR.

                • john

                  Your last paragraph was the line of the night.

                • raptorstand

                  The nets just won 5 in a row, the knicks have played better since we kicked their ass, the east aint as bad as the numbers show its going to even out.

                • Tinman

                  Really didn’t want to get involved in a thread with the idiot poster, but right now, the East is that bad.
                  Not taking anything away from the Raps, they have been balling. This game wasn’t our best. Thought we played 2 and 2/3rd horrible quarters, but as what is becoming common, took over when it mattered.
                  The Nets will be a tough playoff matchup, no matter what opponent they get. Would rather face the Knicks.

                • AB4EYE

                  We are leading the division by 4 games at one game over .500 the east is shit, if we were in the West we would be 8.5 games OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS!

                  4 teams in the whole conference have winning records 2 of them just slightly and Miami almost as as many losses as all last year.

                • truth be told

                  Stop it. You’re being way too rational.

            • FREEJV

              Kevin Garnett aint a star anymore stop your whining and go give them a blowjob if you love them so much lmao

              • AB4EYE

                He’s ten time better than the guys who replaced him and coming off a double-double to the Heat.

          • http://www.facebook.com/asifyouknow Al Asifyouknow

            LMAO….lol…….:]

          • tonious

            If Rudy was still on this Raps team, that 3rd qtr would of sunk us to 20 down…. and seeing Fields attempt a 3 that would kill kittens.

          • MrJames

            Thank you, could not have said it better. I had to create an account JUST to reiterate that. Can the team live? Just making the playoffs, look and act like they belong, hopefully win but, at least make it interesting is more than we have had in years.
            Take your tank, park it out back, throw a tarp over it and pray you might be able to bring it out before the deadline.

          • truth be told

            And dellusional bandwagon Raps fans have turned crazy with all this “contender, this team is taking us to new heights” nonsense

        • http://www.facebook.com/asifyouknow Al Asifyouknow

          I agree about coach running Lowry into the ground…..I’ve never seen Vasquez suck this much until this year and he is getting worse by the day. You need a backup right now before you beat Lowry to a pulp…At this point any old PG will do …

        • afrocarter

          Nah. There was a reason he got cut from the squad. Continue to ignore that if you so choose.

          • AB4EYE

            Our coach would rather play bums over a NBA starting level PG and one of those players our GM loves.

            • afrocarter

              Answer me this: how well did Augustin perform as a member of the Raptors? How well did he run the offence when he was on the floor?

              • AB4EYE

                He played just 82 total MP and actually won us a game with a great 4th quarter run.

                • afrocarter

                  You didn’t answer my question. As a whole, how well did Augustin run the offence?

                • AB4EYE

                  How good is anyone going to do when they have to leave the game by the time the get a sweat worked up. 10 MP a game is two runs of 5 MP, King James is even going to struggle with that.

                  Everyone is on Pats dick tonight if he played 10 MP he would have shot 1-for-6, he had 5 points tonight after 3 quarter in 17MP and started 1-for-8 but got PT and got hot in garbage time and everyone is acting like he had an awesome game.

    • Tanks-a-lot

      2Pat with a double double off the Raptors bench

      Going off once in a while isn’t special.

      • AB4EYE

        Pat got half his points in garbage time after shooing 1-for-8 to start, the Bulls won by 6 and were down in the 4th. If you take every single stat Pat got away we still win the Bull get blow out of the gym without 20 points and 12 assists.

        • Tanks-a-lot

          Bobcats, hurting for a bench

          • AB4EYE

            They beat us twice

            • Tanks-a-lot

              You should just throw away the Gay days as any comparison to now.

              • AB4EYE

                They count just like all these wins vs team playing on the second night of a back-to-back but neither tell us anything about this team over a 7 game series where both teams are on the same travel and rest.

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  Whelp, we are just going to have to see if there is something special by actually seeing the Raptors in the playoffs.

                • AB4EYE

                  IS getting blown out in the second round as the best case scenario something special?

                • FREEJV

                  yes it is now fuck off retard

                • raptorstand

                  I really couldn’t have said it better myself free, direct , succinct, got to the heart of the matter, when are you going to start writing for nothing on this blog freejv ?

                • FREEJV

                  Whenever Dj Augustin makes the allstar team ill start writing here cuz thats what hes making Augustin sound like

                • AB4EYE

                  He has as many as our guys have and you think they’re going to run with the Heat or Pacers.

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  What if the Raptors don’t get blown out?

                  What if the Raptors do lose but run the series to 6 or 7 games?

                  What if they win?

                  Gotta love the playoffs, anything can happen.

                • AB4EYE

                  You think we are going to the conference finals?

                  Anything can’t happen int he playoffs what mediocre teams are going to the finals?

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  I don’t think anything. I just want to see what will happen IRL.

                  btw. I think you are performing a service rather than trolling.

                • raptorstand

                  I never thought I would live to see the day were somebody that is a Toronto fan would bitch about winning. lololol what a fing world. We havnt won shit in 5 years in basketball ten years in hockye

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  This is a very active thread thanks to AB4EYE, just saying.

                • j bean

                  I prefer quality to quantity. I scroll past the troll. There are lots of things to talk about besides arguing that the team is going in the wrong direction by getting better.

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  I guess it’s because I troll the shit out of political sites that I feel less affected by button pushing here

                • AB4EYE

                  Winning now actually hurts us long term espcailly when its fools gold with a bad east and getting some awesome scheduling breaks.

                  What happens if Kyle walks and we don’t trade and pick up more assets and then next year all these down teams get healthy and bounce back?

                • raptorstand

                  I have never seen the Raptors play this good of ball in the history of the team, I don’t know what you are watching but this team is just going to get better. You don’t unlearn success, potential is unlimited, and a gm that is going to add . Your talking through your ass, but hey you know you obviously have never been at the beginning of something, when a team starts to understand they are good. Come on man give it a rest and just enjoy

                • AB4EYE

                  Yes we sucked forever, and will keep sucking forever until we rip it down and get a star to go with out young core. This draft is loaded with stars and we blew it and now we may not move our #1 trade chip who could walk for free.

                • truth be told

                  If you haven’t then you have not been watching Raptor ball long enough.
                  Carter and Bosh teams were better than this team.
                  They are a game above .500 and you’re talking about them like their OKC. Relax folks, its a long season.

                • Ghotte

                  Some RR members are mentally unbalanced and can’t deal with the fact the team is winning. They live to be negative; it’s what they do.

                • MJH

                  OMG dude, seriously go suck a fatty

                • john

                  A few years ago 8 seed GS beat 1 seed Dallas. It’s rare, but the improbable does happen from time to time. I could see us going to the second round deoending who we face in round 1. The Nets and knicks concern me as playoff opponents. Hawks, Wiz, Pistons I’d be surprised if we didn’t advance past.

                • AB4EYE

                  Then they got ran out of the playoffs in 5 games the next round by a #4 seed.

        • DD10

          You have got to be the biggest troll ever haha

    • Blackjitsu

      Is DJ better than Lowry of Vasquez? Would it be fair to his career to let him rot on the end of the bench? They’re trying to develop Buycks and Stone is just insurance. I’m sure Augustin is happy where he is, and the Raps are happy with Lowry and Vasquez.

      • blackjitsu

        OR not OF my bad.

      • AB4EYE

        He’s as good as Vasquez and far cheaper.

        • john

          That’s not setting the bar very high. I’d rather have neither on my team.

          • AB4EYE

            Well since we’re paying both I would rather having the one who’s cheaper and playing ten times better.

            • Scott

              Youre not paying shit so stfu.

              • AB4EYE

                Actually I am playing some of it just like anyone else who supports the team or NBA.

                • john

                  I wouldn’t call what you’re doing “support”. While you personally may be spending money on the team, your attitude drives other potential fans away, so it’s a net negative.

    • Phat AlberG

      Are serious watching D.J. Augustin numbers? Any body numbers you should be watching is Patrick Patterson who came in the Vasquez trade!

      • AB4EYE

        Yes I seen pat shoot bad before going off in garbage time too.

        • raptorstand

          ????????? he was plus 40 he did everything on that floor tonight and you have the audacity to run him down , go put your head in some cold water.;

          • AB4EYE

            He was +37 of that 40 while shooting 12.5% the Nets have no bench with all the good bench players forced to fill in for the hurt star starters.

            • raptorstand

              shut up

            • Phat AlberG

              Dude come on you can’t be serious lol, Patrick Patterson played balls out today.

              • AB4EYE

                He did good but he scored half his points in garbage time wasn’t like he was balling out and owning the game before that, he was shooting 12.5%

    • FREEJV

      what did Augustin do against us when we blew them out twice? lmao

      • AB4EYE

        Better than GV and also both of those games were on night two of back to backs and the one he shot bad in was his 2nd game with the Bulls coming off not playing, second game he shot 75%

        • FREEJV

          ok go suck Augustins dick bro but i dont think hes gay

          • AB4EYE

            I would but your girl is all over his tip and then your mom said she had next.

            • turdo sandowich

              So you absolutely would suck the dude’s dick is what you’re saying.

              I’m not a man with anything against the homosexual lifestyle, but I don’t think you made the rebuttal you wanted to (“Go suck the guy’s dick if you want to.” => “Members of your family are lined up to suck his dick, so although I really want to suck the guy’s dick so fucking badly I have to respect the fact that your family has been given precedence.”).

              • AB4EYE

                I told you I couldn’t because he’s too busy with FREEJV’s wife and stank ass mother sucking it and when he actually gets those nasty ass hoes off of it he’s got to go out them and win games for the Bulls sticking it in teams for 20 points and 12 dimes OFF THE BENCH!

    • mountio

      Thats a nice line (must be his career high?) – but lets be serious .. DJ stinks. You must be have some in on the pacers bench from last year, cause you sing his and TH’s praises consistently.
      Good for him that he has taken advantage of the opportunity in Chicago .. but he stinks. Stunk in Indiana, stunk for us.

      • AB4EYE

        No I have love for guys who we could have traded or made us better rather than pay them to put up big numbers for a team who may end up with a better record than us.

        If the Nets get healthy or NY keeps winning we are out of the playoffs so the Bulls winning could cost us a playoff spot if we fall out of the Atlantic Lead and would be our first round match up. This time no being on night two of back-to-backs again,

        For the Record 31 and 14 are his career highs.

        • Phat AlberG

          You complaining about the Raptors playing back to back games, so far they had 5 back to backs and they only lost once. Every team has back to back games, honestly you need find another topic to complain about.

          • AB4EYE

            We have a very young core and back-to-backs don’t bother us, that’s my point our strength is gone come the playoffs when we aren’t going to get tired teams or have the young leg advantage.

            • Phat AlberG

              Dude you cannot argue the fact since the trade, the Raps are better. It’s not because of back to back games, it’s because they’re tough team play against. If you look at NBA power rankings, raps are rank 9th. Last year they were at bottom of the league in those same rankings. And you’re not given them any credit as players for maturing, and it’s very disrespectful. Because if you watch them play, you should see they are tough team to play against on both ends. Because as soon they turned on the switch they blew them out, and that’s a sign of good team.

              • AB4EYE

                Also since the trade we have won almost every game with the team we played also playing the night before.

                • Ghotte

                  I get it now: AB4EYE is really TimW!!

                • AB4EYE

                  No some people here don’t have a win now at all costs only to pay for it late approach. We will no doubt pay for this season for years to come so you better keep all these games on the DVR and watch when the east isn’t this embarrassing.

    • DD10

      You’re fucking retarded

      • AB4EYE

        Your mom says I fuck brilliant.

    • Doc

      DJ had a decent stat line, fine. When he was with the raptors he was a turnstile on the defensive end. Not to mention, a bit “me-first” on the offensive side. Everyone was calling for him to get his ass off the court when he was in TO – He was really, really bad. Vasquez isn’t an upgrade, but is he that much of a downgrade?
      Can we all agree it’s too late to tank? AB4EYE – yeah, it sucks that Wiggins isn’t likely coming to TO, but if he keeps lowering his draft stock by maintaining his current level of play, he might make it there.

      • AB4EYE

        He played 82 MP we went 5-5 when he played and he left with a positive Plus/minus. You said he was Me first but he had more assists then the other 2 PG off the bench in less PT. You say he had a Me first attitude but he took just 24 shots here.

    • Guest

      and Rudy is averaging 20+ for the Kings, can we trade back for him? oh and AB is doing ok as well.

      • AB4EYE

        We got owned on the Rudy trade, we moved while getting not one long term asses back.

        • raptorstand

          I know you must have been in total drunken black out mode when you shit on the computer screen with this post. Go watch the Kings if you want to watch the old Raptors , Rudy Gay is the most over paid NBA player ever. I would have given first round draft picks to get him off the team, instead we got jewel in the rough that is giving this team solid minutes and will be with this team for a long time. The other players have given us depth the Raptors have never seen before. Owned on the Rudy Gay trade ? Jesus even I havnt been that drunk.

    • Bryan Colangelo

      Sometimes a guy needs a change of scenery and more opportunities to prove himself. Just because he has proven he has potential doesn’t mean he would have proven it on the Raptors.

      I mean, he had to be playing pretty shitty in practice to no be able to differentiate himself from the likes of Julyan Stone and Dwight Buycks.

      • AB4EYE

        Or maybe he just needs a chance to play more than 82 MP.

    • GetLicks

      Great idea! Maybe we should hire you as GM & fire Masai?… Just a thought, you know, cause if we did you’d sign DJ augustin and would ‘run plays’ for tyler hansbrough. Maybe those 2 pieces would help us turn that fool’s gold into a championship ring huh?

      • AB4EYE

        I would rather let Masai fuck it up so you guys can get off his dick. He’s made his name owning the two worst run franchise in the NBA and that’s it.

        He made his Denver teams good by blowing it up not doing what he’s doing here, we are heading for no mans land and will suck when he’s fired in a few years.

        • GetLicks

          And, like I said, your plan to turn us around is to sign DJA & run plays for hansbrough? It’s a good thing teams hire qualified people instead of looking for morons on the internet. You might have the worst basketball sense of anyone on RR.

          • ItsAboutFun

            He’s trolling man. Messing with people’s minds, and continuing to get buyers for his attention grabbing.

            • GetLicks

              Wouldn’t surprise me at all. Just hard to believe someone has this much time on their hands to troll a raptor fan site. On a Friday night no less

          • GetLicks

            Don’t trip getting on the short bus Monday morning

  • Louvens Remy

    Drake….meh. Rapz….ya!!!

  • AB4EYE

    Anyone else worried that we keep getting all our wins vs tired teams and it isn’t going to work like that in the playoffs?

    Now its 7 of our last 10 wins coming vs teams playing on the second night of a back-to-back including both of big wins vs OKC and the Pacers who both had us down big in the second half before fading. The Raps being one of the younger teams in the NBA helps us fight past these games as they don’t bother us much at all, but come the playoffs all these older teams are going to get plenty of rest with off and travel days and very unlikely to even play on back-to-back nights.

    A depleted Nets team had double OT game with Miami and a late travel and had us down 10 late in 3rd. Even the Pistons had us down in the 3rd by a handful before fading on the second night. Even when we beat the Bulls the last time they were in Memphis the day before in a battle and had us down big late in the 3rd.

    • Louvens Remy

      Them’s the breaks. I ain’t worried. I’m more worried about the team needing another scorer. Seems they miss some easy shots.

      • AB4EYE

        I know that but they aren’t going to be there in the playoffs. Having young legs is our biggest advantage over a 82 game season with so many back-to-backs.

        • Louvens Remy

          Ya for sure. I think because both teams will be in the same situation is that what you mean? I think when it comes down to it, the playoffs is just experience that gets you through most tough nights. I think beating teams off back to backs is maybe a bit of a question mark but you got to beat them. I think we try to poke too many holes with this team. They are learning how to win, which is great. The next step is learning how to play with a lead.

          • AB4EYE

            The issue I see we get down to most all these teams only to have the energy to come back on them when they get tried or take their foot off the gas the save energy. In the playoffs all their stars are going to get more PT and will then get to rest since the games are so spaced out.

            Our #1 strength and a key to over half our wins is voided in the playoffs.

            • john

              You don’t remember all the “close” games Raps had against good teams the last few years? Same argument could be made against all those teams that didn’t blow us out when they should have.

            • afrocarter

              To say that the ONLY reason we’ve been winning these games is due to tired legs would be to grossly oversimplify the situation. Personally, I think a greater key to our victories would be the 6th-best defence we’ve been sporting — but hey, that’s just me.

              • AB4EYE

                We are losing almost every one of these games until into the second half, all signs point to teams getting tired.

                • afrocarter

                  Or the Raptors play better coming out of the half. We do have one of the best 4th quarter point differentials, yes? Less to do with fitness, more to do with making better adjustments. So yeah, I’m gonna stop feeding the trolls now.

                • AB4EYE

                  It could be but chances are its not since most every NBA struggles on back-to-backs and we see all the teams fade after owing us early.

                • afrocarter

                  I’ve pulled out hard stats to back up my argument while you continue to toss out vague generalizations like rice. This conversation is over.

                • Ghotte

                  I think you are purposely overlooking the fact all teams go through a similar scheduling situation.

                  Also, there’s a thing called habits: Whether playing a tired team off of a back-to-back or a disinterested team or a team with flight problems, winning begets winning habits.

                • AB4EYE

                  I know they do but we have the youngest core int he NBA those game are massive advantages for us and a key to us winning. Once the playoffs come that is gone and all these older teams will be getting extra rest/

                • Ghotte

                  Or better execution down the stretch. Consistently

                • AB4EYE

                  They do but vs dog tired teams.

                • DutchyBrown

                  Tim W. called…he wants to frolic with you in the park.

                • Truth

                  You’re a moron. I have a feeling you’re just some lonely tool that wants attention and ends up seeking it on here with your absolutely ridiculous comments. When have the raptors been blown out in the first half? And teams practice everyday, that’s life in the NBA. The fact that your using that as an excuse to discount the raptors wins just shows how much of a clown you are.

          • john

            This is a more sustainable team than 06/07 imo. Winning with youth rather than vets and Bosh. I don’t care what the outcome is this year, keep the core till the end of the season and make adjustments then. I love seeing our guys fight every minute and the only way they’ll get better is by staying together as a team.

          • slim

            Back to backs – all in the mind. Players get paid millions to do a short shift 3-4 days a week. When those shifts are is irrelevant. 2 in 2, 2 in 3, who cares.

        • CJT

          Just so I understand your argument, having young legs is an advantage during the long 82 season because of all the back to backs, but during the playoffs, which take place immediately following a grueling 82 game schedule, having fresh young legs is going to be a disadvantage. Does that about sum it up? Seriously?

    • Bryan Colangelo

      I would be more worried if they lost those back-to-back games.

      You’re right, the Raptors have been fortunate with their schedule, but they’re winning games that are winnable, and winning games they’re supposed to win (if that makes any sense). Last year, or earlier this season, they would have not gone 7 for 10 in these circumstances.

      I’m cautiously optimistic. They’re taking advantage of their opportunities. If they barely won or lost this game, then I would be nervous.

      • AB4EYE

        They are taking advantage of them but the issue is being able to hold up in back-to-backs with out youth will be gone in the playoffs.

        Other teams will be riding their stars harder and then getting 2 to 3 days off to rest between games.

        • Bryan Colangelo

          The only teams I’m worried about are the Heat and the Pacers, for obvious reasons.

          I actually think the Pacers, when healthy, are the scariest — they’re just a well coached team, with a dominant center that we will have trouble dealing with. Even though the Heat have Lebron and Wade, at least we can point to our athleticism and depth in the paint as an advantage (not to say that I think we could beat them either).

          The Knicks and the Nets are picking up steam, and I agree, they’ could be tough in the playoffs. Both teams have multiple ‘All-stars’ that still have a lot pride and playoff experience.

          But to be perfectly honest, I truly believe we could take either the Knicks or Nets out in a five game series.

          They’re playing better now because they’re desperate. But their offenses still rely on a lot of iso’s and hero ball. They’re defending with more energy, but I’m not convinced that they’re system is up to snuff. I think the old sea legs of the Nets can be broken with some decent ball movement and transition play. And Knicks are relying a lot on guys like Bargnani and Felton and Shumpert to make consistent contributions, which they have historically proven they can’t do. The basketball IQ on that team is actually quite low, when you think about it.

          So yeah, I hear you — you really can’t underestimate any team will talented players like Johnson, Carmelo, etc — but I think you’re giving some teams too much credit. They’re both really poorly coached, and have some glaring weaknesses that I think the Raptors could exploit.

          What makes me optimistic about the Raptors recent run is that none of their wins feel like the result of a hot hand or lucky bounce, they mostly came from hard work, contributions from all over the floor and playing ‘the right way.’

          I do think if we’re serious about going deep in the playoffs, we need to upgrade the back-up point. Our nine-man rotation, while lacking star power, is basically a knuckle-head free zone, with the exception of Vasquez.

          • AB4EYE

            You’re getting fooled by beating teams in these back-to-backs situations.

            • Bryan Colangelo

              You’re getting fooled by the Knicks and Nets beating teams in January that also had various injuries or were coming off back-to-backs.

              Like I said, if the Raptors where scrapping by, beating or losing to teams by a couple of possessions, or relying on dumb luck (not the same dumb luck of scheduling that Knicks and Nets have recently benefitted from this month) you might have a point.

              But they haven’t.

              And tell me — why is it, when the Raptors start winning, you think the team is simply mediocre team with a few lucky breaks, but when the Knicks and Nets suddenly start winning, you insist that they’re secretly good teams that will magically become juggernauts come playoff time?

      • john

        You have the same stance as I do. Cautiously optimistic. This is the first time after watching this team for ten years that we’ve had a young core stay together for multiple seasons and been able to see them grow through hard knocks. I wouldn’t make any more trades this season except for minor ones. Leave the major moves for the offseason so we can see what this core is made of come playoffs.

    • FREEJV

      man stfu all your comments are hate comments go over to the brooklyn forum and cry there

      • AB4EYE

        The person who is going to be crying is you and all the other people love all this fools gold when reality sets in and we still blow when the East isn’t at this historically bad level and we blew this year to rebuild and we let Kyle walk as a FA.

        • raptorstand

          Kyle is not going anywhere , this team is going to dominate the east for along time to come, we are just starting this trip and its gonna be great for a long time in Toronto , what a great time to watch young players that grew here be great ,

          • AB4EYE

            LOL we can’t even afford to sign him and keep our core and then make a bench. We only have 4 guys under control after next year and one is Novak.

            • raptorstand

              So what the f is your problem , that’s the gms problem , and even fing you can realize that certain players have to be signed, We will become a tax team , I don’t give a flying f about the money end of this game as long as the players play hard . I don’t really get why you watch this team lololol they are finally playing well and it just kills you , lololol I would advise to quit watching this team and go root for the heat, they have such nice weather for menches like you.

              • AB4EYE

                We aren’t going to be a tax team in the new NBA with the steeper tax hits!

                Kyle isn’t going to give us a discount and if we pay market value we are going to be effed since he’s not going to be playing at this level forever.

                • mikey

                  how do we have no money if we unloaded bargs salary and gay’s salary not to mention from the players we got back only Hayes has a guaranteed contract for next year? I don’t know where you are getting these numbers from, Masai knows how to do 2 things very well: 1) evaluate talent being a scout for many years and is known to have a keen eye (aka picked up Faried in the second round) and 2) he knows how to create financial flexibility (again getting rid of Melo while getting assets and saving money, trading Bargs for picks, trading Gay who was guaranteed 19 million). So unless you’re going to tell me that you know how to handle the financial flexibility of the future better than Masai just shut the hell up.

        • GetLicks

          I’m with the other guy. Just stfu… When we always used to lose back to backs, fans cried cause we weren’t ‘tough enough.’ And now when we beat teams on back to backs (even when we’re on a damn back to back), it’s cause we’re not that good. I know this is the internet but why don’t you do everyone a favour and go away with your Debbie downer fkn sky is falling bs. Man some raptor fans are complete morons.

          • CJT

            Not only that, what is OUR record on the second half of our back to backs? If I remember its pretty damn good, so wouldn’t the same be true for other teams beating us because we were tired? And the reality is that is the NBA and all teams have to do it, so if we can take advantage of other teams when they’re tired AND win our back to backs great.

        • onemanweave

          Hey baby troll, way to take up the slack when the big fish are still under the bridge. They need a stooge to take up the slack on nights like this and allow them to maintain some degree of credibility. You are in line for ‘Sixth Troll of the Year’ award, young man. Keep up the good work.

      • afrocarter

        Word of advice: don’t feed the trolls.

    • AB4EYE sucks dick

      No one cares, you’re a complete moron. Back to backs shouldn’t mean shit, its the freaking NBA for god sake. We blew out Detroit after a back to back for what its worth. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about

    • Ion66

      And we gave away a game in Indiana when we were gassed. That’s how the season goes, and hopefully it evens out in the end. Even the top teams have wins against tired or weak opponents and we don’t seem to discount those from their records, like we seem to with the Raptors, go figure.

    • Feather Ruffler

      Some of the best records in the NBA and their ages:

      Houston Rockets: 25.3 AVERAGE AGE
      Portland Trailblazers: 25.4 AVERAGE AGE
      Golden State Warriors: 26.8 AVERAGE AGE
      Oklahoma City Thunder: 26.0 AVERAGE AGE

      And…

      Toronto Raptors: 26.1 AVERAGE AGE

      By your logic these teams will be in the same position as the Raptors come the playoffs, You’re reaching and I think you know it.

      • AB4EYE

        Since when did we star playing in the West?

        If we did you peeps would have a different view of this teams since we would be 8.5 games out of the playoffs and that’s even with getting or easy east wins.

        Also where do you get those numbers? BB Reference has us at 25.4 and 2 of those teams older and one younger. Also our age is inflated by Salmons who is 34 skew and guys like Chuck and Novak who are 30 a normally don’t even play. 10 of our 15 players are 26 or younger, then Kyle is 27, Tyler 28 on top of the guys I mention before.

        Every 1st or 2nd round series in the East will be with teams all over the league average team age.

  • ayyy

    Resign casey and lowry!

    • john

      Lowry, depends on the price. This is most likely going to be his best season, but he’s looking for a big pay day.
      Casey, there’s still far more evidence against him than the positives we’ve seen over the last month. Ask me again in April and maybe I’ll say yes then.

      • onemanweave

        Looking at the defensive effort this team shows and remembering Dallas’ title run, there’d be about 29 teams able to find room for him as an assistant. Remembering the Triano teams and looking at the Raps now, there might be more than a few head coaching jobs available.
        This team is playing tough defense and moving the ball and winning. Stunning turn around. Come April, ‘you’ might not have much to say about when, or if, he re-signs.

    • john

      Patterson we have no reason to not keep.

    • MyManD

      Yes to Lowry if he’s not too greedy.

      Maybe to Casey, if he can keep the boat steady until the end of the season.

  • Tanks-a-lot

    It’s so nice to have a popping bench when a ‘malaise’ hits like the 3rd.

  • Colonel_Hapablapp

    Was at the game. Notes from it…

    1. Drake halftime show was shit. Lasted 7 minutes and nothing real notable aside from handing out 2 pairs of shoes.

    2. DeRozan got hot at the end of the 3rd…not 4th. That was Patterson.

    3. Another live crowd that was VERY into it. Forget tanking. We should take advantage of the situation in the East and attempt a coup of a few playoff series.

    4. Lets go Raptors!*!!*

    • Tanks-a-lot

      He’s still the rich kid from Forest Hill that is a Degrassi Kid to me.

      Hopefully though, having ‘Drake’ around means that there won’t be any Country music at the 2016 All-Star game.

      • john

        NBA players like him, and sheeple with money like him. If it improves the likelihood of us getting better then I don’t see the harm. It’s a nonfactor at worst.

  • robertparrish00

    I know we won, but damn-that 1st half was really biased reffing. Thankfully the bias swung our way in the 2nd.

    • Tanks-a-lot

      Dick Bavetta ALWAYS makes calls to make up for any bad calls.

      He does need to retire though.

    • Thomas

      Dick Bavetta is just awful

    • john

      I wish refs would just make the proper calls and noncalls and not base it on the name on the jersey.

    • Tinman

      The FT’s at the half were almost even.
      And to be honest, the Pierce elbow to Lowry was the right call – Lowry got in too tight too soon.

      • jjdynomite

        Then it should’ve been a non-call, no?

        • Tinman

          no – the correct call would be a foul

      • robertparrish00

        For me it was the 2 quick ones on Tross and the ticky tacks on Lowry that changed the complexion on the 1st half.

  • mountio

    Cant seem to vote for Amir – but he wasnt even close to a B. For all the Amir lovers .. note that he has too many of these games, where he is just non-existent.
    Otherwise, great game .. looked like we were losing it and great effort by DD especially (with 2Pat and lowry) to pulll away. Ross solid again.
    Its almost like I could get used to this …

    • john

      This is his third game now where he hasn’t been himself. He’ll get back to normal soon though. He goes through this stretch every year and then bounces back.

      • mountio

        I hope so… and I agree with you .. he always goes through these stretches. Needs to figure out how to eliminate them…

        • john

          Whatever, as long as he’s back to normal come playoffs I have no beef.

  • Louvens Remy

    We need to trade for Kenny Bazemore!!

    • Louvens Remy

      He’s tricky, he’s big, he’s got offence, he’s got a weird herky jerky game a la Dragic and Manu and he’s left handed. Great change of pace guard. He just needs a chance to shiiiiiiine!!!!

      • Tanks-a-lot

        It’s ‘Kent’, and he’s a shooting guard.

        • Louvens Remy

          Hahaha. I said Kenny. Ya Kent. I know he’s a shooting guard but I’ve seen him handle the rock. I think that it would be a good idea to bring him in and give him some back up point guard minutes behind lowry. really would give the team another dimension. They could play bazemore, lowry as a two guard lineup and have bazemore sub in for Derozan if you wanted to go small. I just like his game and see the potential if given a chance.

          • Tanks-a-lot

            cool

          • raptorstand

            what about Currys brother playing in the d league, nice player might fit with these young guys.

            • robertparrish00

              yes please, hell give kabongo a shot-the kid is so young.

  • john

    I wonder how much Denver wants for Andre Miller.

  • FREEJV

    you can book it we ll be 19-17 on monday guys

    • john

      I hope they beat the bucks to a pulp. We’ve been shit on for too long. Time for payback.

  • Thomas

    Gotta love watching the Raptors play a great game only to come to the forums to see people complain about everything they can

    • What the

      i’m waiting for mr. DDDAYLEWIS aka tim w jr. look at me, i tell you these guys are plants Lakers,Knicks and Nets fans who wants us to feel their pain they are wolves in sheeps clothing dive the fuckers out.

      • DDayLewis

        Wow you really have a hard-on for me, huh?

  • Amigo

    I am not a happy fan right now and I can’t hide my emotions. Even if KL was 23 years old and locked in with a long contract I would tank to get a great prospect from this draft (Wiggins/Parker). I would still be playing the young core and no journey man with 6 month left in the contract would have “a night stand”.

    Instead we have this ‘fool gold’ situation where KL is 28 in 60 days and soon to be gone, 1 injury away from holding the 9th spot, 4 month away from hating each other for that ‘beautiful stretch of game after Gay trade’.

    Remember me on Draft night, yes I was that fool whiner calling “THE NO MANS LAND” .

    • afrocarter

      Somebody call the whaaambulance.

    • Tanks-a-lot

      Then DeRozan and others will demand to be traded

      There will be nothing but a possible future All-Star to build around and players across the league that think Toronto is a backwater.

    • john

      Ugh I thought you guys would go back to your coffins once the sn came up.

    • ac1011990

      The thing that scares me is that Lowry is not who he has been the past few weeks. I’m not ready to trust a guy who’s been average his whole life and give him a 3 year contract based on this season. He has been good but not great according to his previous 6 years. Lowry has not been the easiest player to work with and he’s had conditioning issues to. Don’t have a good feeling about this situation either, I like these wins and there fun but it’s probably going to bite us in the ass next season.

      • j bean

        Maybe he has improved and the last 5 weeks is more indicative of who he is today. The fact Casey played Calderón over him probably taught him a lot about getting everyone else involved. As far as not being the easiest guy to work with, it appears like winning has solved that. He looks like he has a super strong will to win and has finally been able to maximize his talents.

        • ac1011990

          Ya not sure i would trust a few weeks opposed to a 6 year career. To be honest I couldn’t care less how hard he is to work with, don’t know why I added that in there. As long as you get the job done on the court I don’t care how many people like you, or how easy you are to work with. I just don’t know about giving a guy a contract based on a few weeks performance, we can see how that worked out for the Knicks and JR smith.

    • Bryan Colangelo

      You know, predicting mediocrity is the least imaginative or risky judgement you can make. Considering only one team gets to win the Championship I’d say the odds of your prediction coming to fruition are quite high.

      So you may very well be right —but that won’t make you any less of a fool. Or a whiner. Or a child.

    • AB4EYE

      People here just don’t want to buy whats best long term for the franchise and only want mild success now rather than a potential real shot at long term success later.

      We Kyle getting hurt or NY or Brooklyn getting healthy from last team out of the playoffs and a trrrible draft slot with Kyle walking for nothing and maybe even giving up an assets at the deadline to chase the down east Fool’s gold.

      Out same record 35 games in this year would leave us 5.5 out of first not 4 games up and fighting for a 8th seed last year.

    • DutchyBrown

      Tim W. called…he wants to watch Joey and reminisce about your favourite 90’s sitcoms.

  • Thomas

    Apparently people have never heard of keeping a young core, making the playoffs, and having that experience make your team better win or lose. One taste of the playoffs makes players even more hungry for the next one. A playoff appearance can only help this team grow. Gotta establish a winning culture

    • raptorstand

      Every young team has to go through the fire , for them to become steel. Great post Tom

      • Thomas

        Thank you! People forget that even the Pacers went through missing the playoffs and being an 8th seed before they were able to sign David West and that was the signing along with player development that made them a great team. I just hate the conversation about tanking. We’ve had too many years of watching a losing team.

  • Ghotte

    On a night when JV was mostly ineffective and the Raptors newfound passing and sharing game was MIA for almost 3 quarters, they finally found a way to up the tempo and put the Nets away. This was looking like Groundhog Day from their first Nets match – letting the slow-footed Nets stay in the game. Props to Casey for properly managing the final quarter… It could have easily gone off the rails, and probably would have earlier in the season.

    Bottom Line: Winning games they’re supposed to. (Especially with their Eastern opponents performing better lately.)

    • john

      I don’t care how it looks. I don’t care if our best player had a bad game. All I care about is if we won or not.

      • john

        Just occured to me that my response may have come across as me disagreeing with you. Casey did the right thing keeping PP in the game. He was clearly playing better tonight.

        • What the

          what? #17 wasnt pretty? what is DDDNITE LEWIS aka tim w jr. gonna say, i mean the dudes got the stats ,the vids on Demar there is the, as he calls it the homer thingy.Tim W., tim w.jr.ddd lewis look at me, and last AB4eyes buut but bu, these guys are plants sent in here by the Knicks and Nets fans to try and rob us and our players from enjoying winning after Calderon and Barnie, but i got the stats on Tim and ddd lewis they both started writting for RRR this season check the stat on that plants i tell ya plants.

          • DDayLewis

            Again, why are you calling me Tim W jr, when I’ve been against tanking all season long? What, I give my assessment that Demar is not a good defender (flush with video evidence) and I have to be slandered and called out in the comments? Why are you so bent out of shape on this? I’m literally the diametric opposite of Tim.

            In my latest recap of last night’s game, I give Demar a lot of praise.

            • Mikey

              I think he’s just trolling you dude lmao

      • what the

        Please share this with TIM W jr. DDDNITE LEWIS “It not pretty”

    • Tanks-a-lot

      Sometimes the matchups don’t favor a traditional Center.

      At least Casey stuck with him and let him play to see if he could find a way to adjust. In the end, Casey made the correct choice to sit him in favor of hotter players and better matchups.

      • Ghotte

        And how many times could we say that about Casey earlier in the season? He’s clearly getting a better sense of what his players can do in specific situations.

        • Tanks-a-lot

          He doesn’t have that gawd damned albatross Gay contract and ego to deal with either.

  • Quest

    i was at the game, and the atmosphere was AMAZING! keep this up boys! we can extend this winstreak to 4 against milwaukee and boston! minnesota will be a challenge tough. if we can contain love, we have a chance.

  • Minks77

    the in-game presentation of the raps is so stagnant and comfortable and un interesting. All they do is play-it-safe as if they were really catering to a viewership who’d just stumbled upon their very first game of professional men’s basketball. They need to step it up and start considering how they are presenting their product. That includes electrocuting Jack n Matt when they stray off topic too much. A quck lil jolt is all I’m asking for.

    • Minks77

      well, maybe one other thing: Can they please dim the lights on the audience (similar to LAL, NYK, BKN) I really don’t care about the slob in the 5th row wearing a DD jersey and a trucker hat. Keep the milfs on perverts row illuminated but that’s it.

    • john

      Unfortunately the reality is that most Torontonians are more educated about the FC than the Raps. Matt et al are still trying to gain new interest by keeping it stupid. There was this 30 second stretch a few games ago where the video went dead and all we had was audio. Matt when realizing this went right to radio-style broadcasting and it was beautiful. Quick, precise, no bullshit. I wish he’d do that more often while the video was working.

      • Nathan

        I remember that 30 seconds. Was impressive. Didnt realize he could call a game like that.

        • Shifty

          We don’t appreciate Matt enough, he is one of top presenters in NBA. And with Jack they make hands down best presenter pair :)

    • Tinman

      I turned it off at halftime and listened to the FAN. Smith and Jones do great radio.

  • Greg Ast

    “If I call him Chunk Hayes, do you think he’d be upset?”

    Would you be upset with an amount of swelling on the left side of your face and 2-3 stitches around your left eye? No? Then call him Chunk to his face.
    But seriously folks – there was a time last night when it felt like Toronto had traded DDR and Kyle to Sacramento for, Fish, 2Pat and Mr. Hayes with the concession that every third game they’d come back to play on the Raptors’ second team for 20 minutes so we could pull out a few W’s when our “Bigs” were having an ‘adolescent’ evening.

    I swear JV is the guy dating my daughter who sometimes shows up as a man but mostly shows u as a teeny bopper.

    • ac1011990

      Lolz ya I don’t think any of us would actually say the stuff we talk about on here to any of their faces. But ya I agree, JV had an awful night, got schooled by Plumlee and really didn’t even put any sort of ding on the game. He’s young and hel hopefully become more consistent as time goes on.

  • ac1011990

    Raps played a good game, down and seemingly out in the 3rd but came back strong. Patterson had a great game, and Derozan pretty much won this himself. But to be honest don’t think JV earned that B+ at all, he got schooled by Plumlee the whole night and didn’t seem to be contributing at all. He really needs to work on a few things to become good.

    • john

      The weirdest part of the game for me was when Blatche made a three. I didn’t know he has that range. If he wasn’t such an idiot off the court I’d love to have him on the Raps.

      • ac1011990

        Lolz ya I don’t know what I feel about him. The guy has a good offensive game but don’t think he’s someone you want on a young team. He’s kind of like Beasley on the heat, he needs vets to help him out. I think he’s in a good place on the nets for his personal benefit

        • john

          For what it’s worth, he hasn’t fired a gun in front of the white house for a while now.

  • GoingBig

    ” love Drake, but I feel like he can do better than being the Ryan Seacrest of the Toronto Raptors. I’m not saying I have a better idea of how to use him, but there has to be one, right?”

    He hasn’t been a pest. If he doesn’t do this too often, it’s fun for the casual fan.

    • john

      Exactly my thoughts. I hate his music, but ‘Merica! seems to like him. If it gets the Raps some extra publicity once or twice a year then I don’t see the harm. Just not more than that please. I think it distracted the ppayers a bit too.

    • ac1011990

      Ya like once every 2 months is fine Lol. He would get kind of annoying if anything more. The crowd seemed to enjoy it and the team seemed to like it as well.

    • Tinman

      As the whitest middle-aged man you would meet, I ‘ll just say that I really appreciate what he is doing for this team. I was impressed with the way he came across and don’t think he’ll allow the Raps to turn him into Seacrest..

      Being stuck at home with the Beatles and the Stones, I doubt I have ever heard any music he’s ever made, but next time I am at HMV I gonna buy all his CD’s for my teenagers.

      • Alex Vostrikov

        appreciate what he is doing?
        its not for free, you know?

        • Vince Carter

          He’s trying to get publicity and make Raptors more popular. It’s like what Jay-Z did to the Nets. Back when then Nets were in NJ, they had no relevance in the NBA. But now that they’re in Brooklyn they actually changed the team dynamic and made people actually give a shit about them.

          • CJT

            Isn’t Jay Z an owner of the Nets? That would be a significantly different relationship and more natural for his involvement in the team.

  • GetLicks

    I’d really like to know who the idiots are that are giving Salmons, Patterson & Ross better grades than Derozan. Those 3 all played well but are you fkn serious? Without DD, we don’t win this game.

    On another note, I’m surprised nothing was said about the atrocious reffing. I was ready to throw shit at my tv after that foul in Lowry before half. What is it about Pierce that gets all these bullshit calls?

    • jjdynomite

      The Truth is crafty. He totally sold the call by faux-tripping over Lowry. And Bavetta and his stooges fell for it big-time.

    • mike, prague

      Or like the new rule, that claims that getting elbowed in the face is now a foul

    • Shifty

      As I understand, these grades are relative to the player graded. So if Casey gets an A+ doesn’t mean he is suddenly better than Gregg Popovich, but that he exceeded his expectations and didn’t cock up as much :)

  • tweed8

    Raptors will make the playoffs and people will still be talking about how we should have tanked. Holy smack. MLSE should have looked here for a magical GM, that could have snapped their fingers and brought about all the changes this team so desperately needed.

    Moves are being made and the team is playing the best ball it has in years and now we should attribute that to a schedule with easy/winnable games because of back to backs?!? I have yet to hear one argument for how tanking is the right answer that hasn’t been filled with holes… And if, that was the direction this team had gone in there is nothing any of us could have done but, grit our teeth and bare the pain of watching our players -especially the ones we love watching- hurt.

    To the guys constantly talking about failure; How about trying to enjoy what we are seeing and maybe have some objective discussion (yah, that’s tough because we are fans) on the future of this franchise from player to front office, instead of talking about how they are just going to fail? Let’s see what else Masai has up his sleeve and let the boys play some ball. It’s great discussing the good and the bad and reading the opinions of others on how they think this team could improve. But, it sure as hell is painful to read folks talking about how this team is simply setting itself up for failure like they threw some bones down and read the future. With those kind of fans who needs haters.

    Go raps!

    PS. If tanking is the one and only option you can see for improving, you probably wouldn’t make that good a GM.

    • john

      I need to look it up to confirm, but I think this is the first year we’ve ever had a winning record on the road.

      • tweed8

        Would have to check myself but, I think you could be right on that one.

  • Ghotte

    Patrick Patterson has been playing really well off the bench but it looks like it takes him a bit to get the engine revved and the rhythm going. Usually misses first 3 shots (of any type) before finding the range. Hope he keeps this up – some on the board believe he’ll revert to his average but I think with his increased role, and new teammates, has a chance to establish a new standard.

  • Andrey

    Give me a break with tanking shit already. Are you telling me that Magic, Bucks and Philly are gonna win a championship in next 3-4 years? Because they tanked this year? Get the fuck outta here. After all the years of being Raptors fan this is year when you are unhappy? And what’s up with the whole. “Lowry will leave, Lowry will leave” whining. If you can’t keep players like Lowry to stay in Toronto then wtf are thinking tanking for a superstar. How the fuck are we gonna make him stay? Billboards and T-shirts saying “Please Stay” Insecurity with some people. And it sickening to try to put fans on some guilt trip saying “Oh you’ll be sorry” and “I told you so” bullshit. Hoping teams and management fails so you get to prove your point. Just watch basketball, enjoy the game god damn.

    • GetLicks

      Agreed. It’s really only a couple idiots on here (AB4EYE). I really think they’re just desperate for attention. Anyone who doesn’t enjoy watching this tea right now is NOT a true fan, and needs to go away.

      • Lucas

        I second that. This team has been nothing short of pure ecstasy to watch (since the trade)! And this is coming from someone who was completely pro-tank before the trade (and until consistent winning ways were shown, post-trade).

        At this point, tanking is: A) Impossible (we’re too good and the East is too terrible); and B) Insulting to a team that has come together, is playing its collective asses off, and has been winning VERY consistently. Only a SINGLE one of their losses was to a slightly weaker team, and it was a narrow one. EVERY SINGLE other loss was to LEGIT championship caliber teams. That’s legit second-tier contender material. Period.

        And honestly, if this level of play continues for the year, does anyone not see us having a shot at beating the Pacers IF (and only if) Hibbert goes down in the playoffs? Not wishing it on him at all, just saying that we ARE good enough to make the second round, and it’s not crazy to think that we could get past that round if lady luck smiles upon us.

        Regardless, I would consider a trip to the second-round, plus re-signing Lowry, to be an EXTREMELY successful season.

    • arsenalist

      ROTD

    • Shadow Of Christ

      Amen! Except for all the cussing, I completely agree, especially with Ross going off for 51 points….

  • Ghotte

    One small negative: JV & Amir a combined – 30 while 2Pat & Hayes were +62. Ding, ding, ding… New Starters!

    • jjdynomite

      Don’t necessarily agree. 2Pat and Hayes were playing against bench guys like Teletovic and Blatce, not exactly known for their defensive prowess.

  • john

    7 out of the next 9 games are against sub .500 teams. Let’s how much furtber we can extend our lead in the Atlantic!

  • saud

    It seems many people mention the fact that the raptors have won alot of games recently against teams on a back to back and that the raps schedule has been kind to them. Well anyone can go look up and realize that the raptors have had the toughest schedule in the east , on sites that calculate these things and are 12-3 against teams under 500, so if anything things should be lookin up.

  • Feather Ruffler

    I was at the game and what an atmosphere! The fourth quarter was ruckus. The special edition shirts were a very cool giveaway but the fact that they were all Large or X-Large shirts annoyed me. Even the girl I was with had to rock a shirt that looked like a tent on her.

  • Red Baron

    Great win for our boys! I know Brooklyn was gassed from night before but still a great win. One thing that has been bothering me though of late….is it me or does JV have almost no lift/spring/hops in him? I know he’s never been a high flyer throwing down lobs, but when he goes up it seems like he is just scraping the rim with his fingernails? Plumlee barely had to jump to block him a few times.

  • Sportsfan_11

    I think these are just clicking with each other, AB and RG were supposed to be go to guys and that put a lot of pressure on those players and as well hindered any breakout development for the rest of the team. Now as all of us can see is that without those (Go To Guys!?!) all of our current core is starting to breakout in a way we wanted possible and they are clicking as a team not to mention the help from the Sacramento Boys….Good things are happening and if we keep this winning culture even better things will happen….

  • Ashwin

    I’ve been reading these quick recaps all season, but haven’t ever commented. I signed up a username just so that I could tell you that that I really enjoy your quick game reactions, and sincerely hope you don’t stop writing them. I love the sense of humour you’ve got sprinkled in. Kudos.

  • Shadow Of Christ

    On My Raptors Soapbox

    I wasn’t gonna post on the subject until February 1st, but seeing the replay last night has inspired this rant.

    Last night in Montreal, Earl Hebner and HBK screwed Brett Hart out of the WWE Championship at Survivor Series… If you don’t get the wrestling analogy, last night in Toronto, Dick Buvetta and the ref crew tried their best to hand the Brooklyn Nets an easy win vs the Raptors. Specifically in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, the amount of questionable calls made against the Raptors had them playing like the pre-Gay trade team. Case in point, close to the end of the 2nd, DeRozan took a legit charge on Pierce or Johnson (can’t remember who), but it was called a blocking foul (DeMar’s 3rd) to which he took exception to and got in refs face which resulted in a tech. Then Lowry took an elbow from Pierce and crumpled to floor, and somehow that was called a blocking foul (Lowry’s 3rd). The Raptors took a 47-42 lead into the 3rd quarter where the bad officiating continued which resulted in an 18-3 run; 60-50 at about the 4:45 mark.

    Now earlier in the season or in recent years, the Raptors would have lost a game like this. The fix was most defiantly in for this game, and had the Raptors lost, it would have proven that they were not ready to make that playoff push. However, these aren’t those same Raptors. They responded BIG with an 18-4 run of their own, led by none other than DeMar DeRozan, who scored 9 straight to end the 3rd; finishing with 26 7 and 5 (pts, rebs, ast). The Raptors were 68-64 at that point, the officiating evened out, and we never trailed again, beating the Nets 96-80.

    To the now defunct #TankNation, I submit to the evidence supporting that this is indeed not fool’s gold. I submit to you that these upstart Toronto Raptors are, in fact the real deal. I also submit to you that despite the circumstances surrounding the situation, we have not one, but two legit All Stars on this team in DeRozan and Lowry that we can build around. There is a reason that this team is playing top 5 defense this year. There is a reason why the Raptors are outplaying teams like the Nets and Knicks, who have better players, talent and skill than the Raptors, outside of injuries. It’s called chemistry… Heart… Intensity… Passion… The will to win. These are things that this Raptors team did not have in years past. You cannot coach these attributes. A team either has it or it doesn’t. The Toronto Raptors have it!

    You can say what you will – the Raptors need to tank… Raptors need a top 5 pick… Raptors need Wiggins/Randle/Parker/Smart/Exum… – but the fact remains the same. These are not the same pushover Toronto Raptors from years past. And really and truly, some part of you know this to be true… But because no one likes to be proven wrong, you kick, you scream, and you still cry tank in vain. Because we are seeing the growth of a TEAM! Not just a phenomenal player who’s a “franchise changing player”, but an actual team from player 1 to 12. And with scouts now reporting that this draft class is not as impressive and “franchise changing” as previously predicted, a playoff run no longer seems like a horribly bad thing anymore.

    Tell me I’m wrong, delusional, a homer, passionate, just another silly Raptor fanboy, that I live in a fantasy world, etc… There is absolutely nothing that anyone can say that disproves what I’m saying right now… Nothing.

    #LetsGoRaptors
    #TheWillToWin
    #PlayoffPush
    #NoTankZone