Los Angeles Clippers 126 Final
Recap | Box Score
118 Toronto Raptors
Amir Johnson, PF Shot Chart 24 MIN | 4-4 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 8 PTS | -13

Got his angles all wrong on Blake Griffin every time in post and face-up situations. There were some instances where Griffin just hit some tough shots, but overall Johnson’s defense was ineffective. To put it in perspective, even Austin Daye crossed my mind as an option.

Terrence Ross, SF Shot Chart 44 MIN | 16-29 FG | 9-10 FT | 9 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 51 PTS | -4

Phenomenal offensive game – started early with the threes and shone in that late third quarter where he kept the Raptors in the game hitting threes, rocking the rim with put-back jams, and even some nice floaters. The perfect isn’t coming from this observer, though, thought his defense on Jam. Crawford was a little lackadaisical and he didn’t do a good job of staying with Redick on the screens.

Jonas Valanciunas, C Shot Chart 34 MIN | 5-9 FG | 7-8 FT | 12 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 17 PTS | -4

The usual. A strong statistical game marred by periods of complete inactivity on defense (like the second quarter). Took some questionable shots against Jordan in face-up situations, but overall, played to his strengths which is trying really hard on the defensive boards. I’ve said it a few times now, but this guy is undergoing significant learnings this year and these experiences will only make him better

Kyle Lowry, PG Shot Chart 39 MIN | 2-10 FG | 6-9 FT | 4 REB | 12 AST | 1 STL | 1 BLK | 3 TO | 11 PTS | 0

Missed a bunch of floaters, took some long jumpers that missed and that’s enough to make the offensive shooting look poor. Leaving that aside, played distributor really well against a very athletic Clipper defense that can cover ground with the best of them. My complaint with him is in transition, where he didn’t track back fast enough allowing the Clippers free fast-break opportunities.

DeMar DeRozan, SG Shot Chart 21 MIN | 2-6 FG | 4-4 FT | 3 REB | 3 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 10 PTS | -8

Quick general non-game specific comment on him: 1) He takes too many long jumpers, has flaws in his game, and 2) he’s an All-Star this season. Some people need to get it in their head that those two can’t mutually exclusive possibilities. His shooting touch wasn’t there early which is when he tried to take it inside and got to the line. Unfortunately, sprained his ankle in the second and didn’t come back in the second half. Big blow.

Patrick Patterson, PF Shot Chart 16 MIN | 2-3 FG | 2-2 FT | 2 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 7 PTS | +3

Not involved in the offense enough for me. I thought he could’ve been used against Griffin to an offensive advantage, and perhaps even defensively, but we never saw that matchup materialize.

Chuck Hayes, PF Shot Chart 13 MIN | 0-1 FG | 2-2 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 2 PTS | -7

Somehow managed to find himself with the ball with the shot-clock running down a few times, which is never good. Couldn’t defend without falling and got the hook in favor of Valanciunas on account of the size-matchup versus Jordan.

John Salmons, SF Shot Chart 19 MIN | 1-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -14

When he’s not hitting his shots (he wasn’t), isn’t effective on defense (couldn’t stop Redick, Crawford, or even Barnes), and isn’t distributing (wasn’t), then he’s not having a good game. He did not have a good game.

Steve Novak, SF Shot Chart 8 MIN | 1-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | +5

Got in the game, probably because DeRozan wasn’t available.

Greivis Vasquez, PG Shot Chart 20 MIN | 3-6 FG | 2-3 FT | 3 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 8 PTS | +2

Every time he shoots, I cringe. He was 1-4 on floaters (I think) and that’s his strength. On defense, poor as usual but that can be forgiven if he produced enough offensively, which he didn’t.

Dwane Casey

I thought a zone would’ve been in order today, but didn’t see enough of it. Other than that, no complaints really. Went with what was working, and it’s not his fault we have a serious problem in terms of depth at the big positions.

Four Things We Saw

  1. I really wish Ross had hit that last FT to pass Vince and set the Raptors record. As it is, he ties Vince at 51.
  2. Jamal Crawford was unconscious in the first half, Casey tried putting Salmons, Ross, and even Lowry on him at times but nothing worked. The Clippers did very well to handle any Raptors pressure in the back court to get open looks.
  3. The Raptors transition defense was very poor – final stat is only 12-7 for the Clippers, but that’s not counting times the Clippers were able to push the ball to create advantage situations, get good post position early, and end up scoring. I thought our guards were very poor at tracking back all game.
  4. More on Ross – he’s the reason this was even a game in the fourth quarter. His third quarter performance – 13 points, 6-9 shooting was a thing of beauty and included a bit of everything. The Clippers had built up a 12 point lead and with DeRozan out, this game was about to be over, but Ross stepped in.

  • WTF

    51 points and not an A+ for Ross? You’ve gotta be kidding me.

    • Junior Qamar

      What a game for ross I wish he hit that last free throw fuck vince

    • arsenalist

      I’m not kidding you. I have to account for both sides of the game when dishing out grades. He was phenomenal and THE reason that this was even a game. His defense needed to be called out. Am I being a dick? I don’t think so.

      • golden

        Well then how the hell does Chuck Hayes ever get anything higher than a C+? EVER. Raps play 4 vs. 5 on offense when he’s out there. Both sides of the ball, eh? Double standard, methinks.

        • StrikerAI

          Not really, Hayes may not be an offensive player, but he is terrific on the boards and on defense.

          • golden

            Both sides of the ball, the man said. Offense is one of those ‘sides’.

          • FREEJV

            we should ve had novak in at the end why did he take him out smh. when he came in we came back cuz we had 4 shooters on the floor. #wtfcasey

          • Manolo

            This Chuck Hayes lovefest is what happens when you analyse basketball using hockey ideal. Blake got anything he wanted when matched up against Hayes, watch the tape. Fuck this “scappy” bullshit, any minutes he takes from JV is a wasted oppurtunity.

      • WTF

        51 points. Sophomore. Only recently started getting decent minutes. His defence may not have been phenomenal but he definitely outperformed his matchup. A+ for sure.

      • ih8vasquez

        You said it yourself for vasquez defense could be forgiven if you produce enough on offense, the man had 51 points

        • http://www.facebook.com/asifyouknow Al Asifyouknow

          Actually Vaz has been playing excellent defense, at least that was what his coach said…but hey what does he know, he is just the coach, I’m sure the experts here know better,,,lol

      • morgan c

        Totally agree Zarar. I thought even an A- could be warranted; still a GREAT game offensively (obviously), but poor on defense. Even Jacko calling him out on being slow getting around screens.

      • mountio

        Not to be nitpicky … but if there had only been like 1 or 2 A+s given out all year, that would make sense. Since most games have 3 or 4 raps with an A+ …. I think its safe to say TR qualified tonight

      • WTFisRight

        Is he allowed to be tired? After the number of possessions he was actively involved in, he got burned on two screens by Redick, yes (which Casey said in the post-game was due to fatigue). If an A+ requires perfect play of every possession without accounting for (super)human limitations and one of the best offensive performances in franchise history, then sure, he got only got an A.

        I don’t think that’s what A+ means.

      • tweed8

        You might be right but, I am willing to bet the team gave him an A+ plus.
        It was pretty clear when they decided, here take the ball.

        • tweed8

          He’s also the most tweeted name in the NBA tonight so, I really hope it doesn’t blow his head up too much. Good job none the less.

      • Mexiballer

        That makes sense that you have to account for both sides. But honestly, if he went off for 72 would you still not give him an A+ ???

      • Louvens Remy

        I think you need to account that he was Mr. Everything on offense. So when Larry Bird goes for 40 and Wilkins hits for 38 did either have a bad game? No. Sometimes, guys are in the zone and can’t be guarded. Ross had A LOT to do. I think you nitpicked…just because….controversy and drama.

      • j bean

        Crawford has burned a lot of good defenders. He has three 50 plus games which has only been done by two other active players.
        Terrance Ross____A + !

      • From the bench

        I don’t think there was much that could have been done early on against Crawford. If anything I think Casey could have switched the game plan and have the bigs step out more on the outside and double, BUT than that would have just opened up a whole new can of worms. Choose your poison I guess with this team. In the fourth quarter I think it was asking too much of Ross to having as your number one scorer on the offensive end and than chasing Reddick around on the defensive end. I thought it was a good decision when they finally put Salmons on Reddick.

      • MIlesLegault

        I disagree with the A. I know what screens you’re referring too against reddick, It’s Casey that should have switched him on barnes. Lowry was left guarding barnes at times on the floor and that was the mistake. You don’t make Ross chase Reddick around screens when he has played 20 straight minutes. He deserves a clear A+ what does a guy have to do ? That’s too stingy friend !!

    • Alex Vostrikov

      then next game amir will get A+ with 10 and 6 performance… with two 3pt attempts.
      ross deserves A+, nothing less. 25 points a game, with average D, and any player is a star in this league.

    • http://www.facebook.com/asifyouknow Al Asifyouknow

      Let me ask you one question…did they win? ok, 50 points means nothing ! is a matter of facts if this continuous, talking turns on hitting 40 plus points, you won’t have to worry about the tank think, it will become naturally…lol

  • Colonel_Hapablapp

    Loved how confused the Clippers broadcasters were when the crowd booed Turkoglu. At first they forgot that he had a stint here, then cited the nightclub incident as to why the crowd trashed him (BTW….he’s not worth the oxygen, so no idea why we booed him). I’ve got a few that they missed…

    Paid Serge Ibaka money, and produced like Kendrick Perkins.

    Laissez-faire attitude.

    Pylon defence; uninspired offence.

    The “Ball” interview.

    The Pizza-Pizza commercial.

    And the fact that he bashed Toronto, saying he was being misused. In reality, he was given minutes and the ball, and s#!% the bed time in and time out. But nevermind that…

    Good lord Terrence Ross!! It’s been said before, but that jumpshot is sex. If he can stay consistent, then we are a very deadly team, especially if we have Patterson at the 4. That’s a 3PT bonanza waiting to happen. Oh, and Clippers announcers were calling him “A Man You’ve Never Heard Of”. LOL!

    And why does Crawford ALWAYS torch the Raptors??! Either way, amazing game to watch. Was exciting from tip to horn. Let’s move on from this loss, and get ready to beat those overrated POS from Brooklyn.

    • Sam

      That was the most said about Hedonism in years

      • Colonel_Hapablapp

        Turkoglu grinds my gears. I still remember the bad games he had, and how this site would (rightfully) trash him for it.

  • Rupert

    Terrence Ross was a boss and he gets an whats with the hate?

    • JayTeam

      Love this board. 5 people give an up arrow to an incomprehensible sentence.

      • Rupert

        I meant an a my bad

        • JayTeam

          It wasn’t so much your comment. I’ve posted without checking too. I just found it funny that 5 people liked what you had posted even though it didn’t make sense.

      • Watchyatone

        we are not dummies we know what he meant

  • Tanks-a-lot

    The Carter is dead!

    Long live the Ross!

    • StabbyRaccoon

      Rossanity!

      • OldSkoolCool

        I was thinking Rorschack as a new nickname…Roassanity works too tho

      • Puzzles

        Ohhh… How I wish Rossanity would become a thing in the NBA….

  • Rupert

    Ross had 51 are you kidding was efficient picked up play when demar left if demar stayed in they would have won he needed some help so d wouldnt key on him

  • NorthernUprising

    wtf is this. Not proper “reaction” post is it???

  • FREEJV

    hmmm should we trade derozan now cuz ross clearly showed hes got superstar potential and demar is still an inefficient scoree. Btw derozan got injured taking another stupid long 2 maybe that ll teach him his lesson to stop taking stupid shots. he came out thinking hes the shit doing stepbacks and stuff who does he think he is smh

    • Tanks-a-lot

      ‘Ball’ stuck his foot out. I’d like to see a stat on how many players that Turkapoo has injured.

    • ckh26

      He got it that ankle injury when that waste of DNA turkeyglue cheapshotted him by coming in underneath him on his shot. Why would you trade demar when now you have two offensively gifted wings. Trade him for what ?

      • FREEJV

        cuz if ross is gonna blossom we cant have derozan with him. its the same thing that happemed with rudy gay we traded him so derozan could blossom. so if u think ross has potential to be better we can get some good pieces for him but its my opinion

        • ckh26

          He is a 2nd year player and he has just had an ubelieveable game. But its one game. It s unlikely on a one game sample size you trade a player who has improved his game year over year.
          And again.. trade demar to which team and for which player.

          • FREEJV

            i didnt say trade him i was just throwing that idea out there to see what other people think calm your balls kids.

            • StrikerAI

              I’d say give it a year, if Ross improves more, then trade Derozan, Ross will be more effective at SG than at SF.

              • johng_3

                So why should we take a step backward and trade our all-star SG? It just doesn’t make sense

                • StrikerAI

                  Because he isn’t a player that can lead, we need a real primary option. Derozan is inefficient, his 3 point shot is terrible, shooting around 22% 3FG since the Rudy trade, he is average on defense and playmaking, and he takes the most ridiculous shots sometimes. if we trade him for the right player, we can improve more by trading him.

                • johng_3

                  And how is Ross at this point after seeing him for one and a half seasons a potential primary option. I don’t see the Raps getting anything of equal value by trading DeMar. Plus the guy is only 24. Just let this team develop and stop with trading everybody, we need some stability.

                • StrikerAI

                  You mean remaining a treadmill team? You have to trade to get better, I’m all for Playoffs this year, but Derozan eventually has to get traded. I never said Ross is a primary option, he could be, but we can’t tell just yet, but he will be a perfect complimentary player to a star.

            • ckh26

              Ya you kinda did say we should trade him. If you say something you should be able to finish your thoughts.. Its your opinion you can’t be wrong. so who would you trade demar to and what would you expect to get coming back ?

              • FREEJV

                I expect a top 14 pick an expiring contract and maybe another young player with some potential.

                • ckh26

                  You don’t have a clue do you. Just lobbing shit up. How about we trade JV for a number 1 overall pick and young player and an expiring contract . Great trade.

                • FREEJV

                  nah JV doesnt take stupid shots like Demar he can stay :)

          • Jag

            remember charlie villanueva, he had 48 point game too in his rookie year and see what happened to him. i am not saying terrence is in same category but there are lot of one day wonders. Personally I think terrence is good player have good temperament for the game.

            • FREEJV

              51>48

        • Puzzles

          Sorry, but this just shows that Ross’s great shooting form begets results.
          And by your logic, we traded a guy so that another could develop, and so we trade the latter in order for a third player to develop, True.

          • FREEJV

            ross is a sg not sf. so if he has more potential than demar why would you keep both. also we can get some good pieces for demar if he makes the allstar team just throwing this idea out there dont get butthurt people.

            • johng_3

              He is a wing player, why does it matter? He could guard both positions if he wanted to.

              • FREEJV

                loooool get out of here neither ross or derozan can guard Lebron when he turns it on in playoffs and if we plan to get to the nba finals we re gonna need a true 6″8 6″9 SF who can matchup with him #truth. Thats why i like Jabari and Wiggins so much but i doubt we can get them for Derozan.

                • johng_3

                  He did a fine job on Paul George these past two meetings, so I don’t know what your talking about. And nobody can guard LeBron. And if your expecting Wiggins or Jabari to come right in and become LeBron stoppers, then you have way to high expectations

                • FREEJV

                  how much does Paul George weigh again?…… and also dont ever compare George to Lebron so disrespectful…..and yes Wiggins is already a better defender than derozan lmao

                • johng_3

                  How is it disrespectful when you were just saying that Wiggins and Jabari would be a quick solution to guarding LeBron? Paul George is a star in this league so I don’t know what your talking about. And how much does Kevin Durant weigh? Exactly..why does it matter.. Why am I even talking basketball with you. And how is Wiggins a better defender? He is guarding college kids for goshsakes. Until he gets in the league, then I will reserve my judgements.

                • FREEJV

                  never said they were quick solutions? but in time they will be. also i know his defense is already better cuz Derozan plays NO defense pay attention to the games and you ll see.

                • johng_3

                  I know Derozan isn’t the best defender, even though it is improving, but his offense makes up for those deficiencies on the other end.

                • FREEJV

                  what offense? 42% fg looool

        • johng_3

          Your an idiot. So Ross has one terrific game where he hits an insane 10 3s and all of a sudden we should trade our potential all-star SG. Its funny because in the offseason, everyone was hating on Ross and the Raptors for not drafting Drummond. IMO Ross complements Derozan and Lowry perfectly with his shooting and athleticism to defend

      • FREEJV

        trade him for wiggins 😀 loool

        • StrikerAI

          I wish. Lowry, Ross, Wiggins, Amir and Val…I drool at the thought of that lineup.

        • ckh26

          Right… so you don’t have a clue.

          • FREEJV

            why are you getting all butthurt lmao you sucked derozans dick or something lol calm your balls bro its just an opinion im throwing out.

          • FREEJV

            btw if you think ross cant be a better player than derozan than you can jump off your balcony cuz ross already tied the team record while derozan got 40 in his 5th year and derozan plays 0 Defense so think about that for a little bit before you start raging little kid

    • Ben

      If you’re joking, stop you’re make DD fans look petty and against Ross’ success.
      If you’re serious, donyell Marshall went off for 46 a few years back so I wouldn’t take this as a sign that we should trade the guy who has arguably been our best player this year.

    • Jabril

      Ross had a great game. 51 fuck big one.But this team is going to need both DD and T-ROSS. Why trade him and for who? They can play together and Demar got hurt because Hedo stuck his foot out.

      • raptor-holic

        trade derozan for someone like danny granger

        • johng_3

          Like why? Why would we trade a all-star for that bum

          • FREEJV

            cuz ross will be a better sg than Demar…. also if we gonna win a championship we need a true SF who can defend Lebron soooo…..

            • johng_3

              So DANNY GRANGER is that man to lockdown Lebron James and lead us to a championship? Yea you know what your talking about. If we need a true SF to win a championship, maybe it wasn’t wise to trade Rudy Gay and we should of shipped DeMar instead right?

              • FREEJV

                never said Granger was that guy #wtf

                • johng_3

                  I responded to another comment saying it was bad idea to trade Demar for Granger but then you commented and said they would do it because Ross is better than DeMar

                • FREEJV

                  i never said trade for Granger? i was commenting on why we should trade Derozan. A player like Luol Deng would ve been nice but too late now

        • jabril

          LoL

    • GetLicks

      Man you really don’t have a clue when it comes to ball. I’m not taking anything away from Ross, that was a great game. But playing a team when you’re not even on the scouting report is a helluva lot different than playing when teams know you can drop 50. The only ppl shaking their heads are us, at you

      • FREEJV

        i actually do and btw im not the first guy to float this idea out there so you can hop off mine and hop on derozans nuts bud

        • GetLicks

          You have the lamest insults man, stop looking for material on YouTube comments and come up with something original.

          And btw, this ain’t NBA 2k or fantasy league. This is real life…something you don’t seem to have a good grasp of. Ppl ‘floating ideas’ on raptors republic don’t count

          • FREEJV

            i came up with that on my own and why you on here if its not real life then lmao #anyways

  • Saud

    I understand you are trying to see the whole picture here, However Ross get 51 points against a good team and ties a franchise record , and he still does not get an A+, you can not be serious. That is the most points by any player this season, including the ridiculous run Durant is on. Get real.

    • Tanks-a-lot

      Melo had 62 last night

      • Saud

        Yeah realized that right after, my mistake . I still think tying a franchise record for points on a not inefficient night deserves an A+

        • Tanks-a-lot

          fo shizzle

    • Puzzles

      Nope.

    • DG

      you forgot Anthony with 62 last night

      • Puzzles

        LOL

      • StrikerAI

        Yeah because all of us are Knicks fans.

      • FREEJV

        that was against the bobcats bud….

  • Quest

    Ross was unreal! i hope demar is ok though, he kept playing in the game until half time which bodes well

    • Age

      Probably smart choice by coaching staff with monday game vs Net which has much more importance than the Clips shoot-a-thon

      Did 2Pat break his nose?

      • Quest

        yes, but he should just wear a mask. pop a tampon in there to soak up the blood and he will be fine

  • golden

    Chuck Hayes can get an A+ with 2 pts. Terrance Ross can drop 50 and only get an A. SMDH. Raps fans are a strange lot.

  • thatpeterguy

    I guess we all need to rethink what exactly T Ross’ ceiling is. That was Carteresque minus the wincing.

    • StrikerAI

      I’d say his ceiling is a great defender and one of the better shooters in the NBA, and if he can improve his ball handling then he can average around 20 PPG.

      • FREEJV

        he showed his handles today did you see that move on Reddick? i know its Reddick but still nice move reminded me of Carter with that move

    • FREEJV

      his ceiling is carter but i dont know if he can do this consistently yet this was just a flash of his potential.

      • truth be told

        His ceiling is Carter? The same Carter at one time considered one of the elite players in the NBA and 9 time all-star?

        • FREEJV

          yep . you mad?

    • truth be told

      Haha. You actually don’t have to rethink his ceiling and he is NO WHERE in the ballpark of VC was when he was ballin’ here in Toronto.

      Man, this fanbase loves to make big leaps of faith.

  • webfeat

    I don’t think zone would have worked. The Clippers perimeter players were shooting the lights out. Blake’s a beast, and the way he was hitting his long jumper, there was no way to easily stop him. Maybe Hansbrough might have been able to get under his skin but the refs were calling everything tonight.

  • StabbyRaccoon

    Wow
    So excite
    Much emoshun
    Such injury
    Such heartache
    Many rising star

    I don’t even like Doge but his writing style seems to suit the occasion for some reason.

  • Quest

    xrays negative for derozan which is good

    • ckh26

      Godd to hear !! Any word on Patterson., it looked like he had his nose broken for him .

      • FREEJV

        i heard he might have to wear a mask or something but dont think he ll be out any games from what i hear on twitter lmao

  • StabbyRaccoon

    WTF Zarar man, Landy Fields played too! Talk about a playa hater

    • FREEJV

      no he dodnt that was Novak lmao #skincolorconfusion

      • StabbyRaccoon

        Oh. I guess you’re right. I may have forgotten what Landry Fields looks like.

        My apologies to Zarar, heh. Was mostly joking anyway.

  • ih8vasquez

    Can someone please let Vasquez know his bum ass floater doesnt work I really hope we trade him

    • StabbyRaccoon

      “Bum ass” is kinda racist, just saying.

      • mountio

        huh?

        • StabbyRaccoon

          It’s a Raptors Republic inside Vasquez joke, haha. Pay no mind to me.

          • Puzzles

            Very greasy of you…

          • mountio

            now i get it ….

          • ih8vasquez

            Lol i wrote the comment and I dont get it

            • StabbyRaccoon

              Zarar tried to nickname Vasquez “Greasy Baskets” and people complained that it was a racist nickname so he stopped. Lol.

              • mountio

                I think it was BillyLou …. but none the less

                • DDayLewis

                  Yeah that was me

    • asifyouknow

      Once aging…Vaz is an NBA PG, getting paid well to do so, living his dream, and most of us are folks sitting in front of a computer in a pair of panties or shorts with more holes than Swiss cheese living our dreams…HuMMMM lets see, why is the guy a bum ass?
      Just because you hate him it wont make a difference to him cause he is going to the bank…
      just saying brother just saying….

      • ih8vasquez

        Lol relax

  • harry

    you cant really expect ross to carry the load on offence and defence like that can you? he was great and dwane casey should not have him guarding jj reddick cuz he made ross tired af running around all those screens.

  • Josh

    To be fair, the man was exhausted because he was performing so well on the offensive end. The Clippers purposely went at him with are duck running around screens to tire him further. I see where you’re coming from Zarar but give the kid a break, that was without a doubt an A+ performance on offence alone.

    • Puzzles

      Agreed. After Ross hit that buzzer-beater at the end of the 3rd, he just looked gassed out, sweating like a mad-man. Then, he came out in the fourth and played to his fullest on offence.
      Even when accounting for the defence he played, I say give him an A+ because…well, because 51, 2nd year player, and tied franchise-record.

  • scarface17

    who is this idiot writing the “reaction”?

    • JayTeam

      Why don’t you write the “reaction”? Then you would know exactly who the idiot is.
      Tough shit if you don’t agree with everything that’s written.

      BTW, I don’t agree with everything, but I’m not so full of myself that i would consider anyone who doesn’t see it exactly as I do an idiot.

      • scarface17

        okay… idiot

        • JayTeam

          You sound like my wife.

          • scarface17

            she sounds like ME! oops, you got me…

      • raptor-holic

        I agree. You’re an idiot and a hater.

  • Boss

    TRoss scores 51 and doesnt get a A+ smh
    and i also hope Demar is okay, I saw on twitter that his X-Ray came out and that they where (-) which is a good thing.
    I hope he can come back vs the nets thats a must win game for us.

  • Puzzles

    UH OH… Broken nose for 2Pat :(

  • rtzyyz

    All these years gone by and that bitch hedo still finds a way to hurt us. Hate that f@CKER

    • JABRIL

      Truth

    • Boss

      lol that’s so true,

    • tweed8

      And then he has the nerve to start arguing with Demar. I wanted to see, Demar slap him. I really dislike that guy.

    • FREEJV

      i know he gave him that huge contract but can we now all agree that bryan colangelo actually did an OK job with this teams drafting of players (Trashnani excluded obviously)

    • arsenalist
  • Da Boss

    Is it just me or does Amir have a brain fart at least once a game? like wtf

    • FREEJV

      you re right hes not a starting PF

  • raptorstand

    Well my tanking friends, how is that for elite. That was a play off game atmosphere. This shows when three of our main players go down we need help. Just like to thank both teams for giving Raptor fans the best game we have witnessed in 10 years. This team is going to be so much fun to watch , thank god I’m not a tanker. Jordanesque I called Ross awhile back , man the tankers and eliters sure laughed at me . I know what I’m watching.

    • j bean

      MJ wouldn’t have cooled off in the fourth. Ross garnered extra attention down the stretch and nobody else stepped up to knock down some shots.
      There was no answer for BG. The Raptors bigs were either out muscled, shot over or dazzled by his moves.

    • truth be told

      How is what for elite? A player dropping 51 now makes him elite?

      You actually don’t know what you are watching but the enthusiasm is good.

  • Puzzles

    Wait wait wait wait wait
    So
    The Raptors
    got Hedo on a $53m contract for Marion, Delfino, and Parker? Then went to a nightclub after missing a game with a ‘virus’, goes ‘the ball’ in an interview then talked trash about the organization after getting benched, got traded, and then pulls a ‘Bruce Bowen’ on a potential all-star playing for the team he doesn’t like after 5 years?

    Cool guy

  • lazy guy

    The future is looking bright. DD,T-ROSS, JV, KLOW, AMIR. Great young core. I can’t wait to see this team in the playoffs.

    • FREEJV

      Amir is a bench player i dont think hes a starting PF look what Griffin did to him….

  • guest

    Wow…51 points and not an A+…just ….wow…

  • johng_3

    How does Jonas get a B for putting 17 and 12? He schooled Jordan so many times with that pump fake. I don’t think he took that many questionable shots.

  • http://www.raptorsrepublic.com/forums/activity.php Doc

    I think we might have to scrap the grades here. Man alive, I haven’t seen this many people upset since Glass Tiger broke up.

    • JayTeam

      Just give offensive grades, Doesn’t matter if guys don’t rotate, lose their man, don’t block out, always go under screens etc. Plus give bonus points for really sick putbacks.

  • Roarque

    Arse, let’s not forget ( did you?) that the Kings played starter minutes in Philly last night – the two 30+ guys you dissed tonight aren’t in the necessary game shape to play 35 minutes and then defend the Clipper’s starters the next night just because Hedo the Hatchet DELIBERATELY fouled DDR and set him back for 2-3 weeks ( my prediction ) with an ankle sprain. The guy needs to retire before somebody punches him out on the court. I don’t know what to say about Amir except that I respect the guy enough to know he’s playing hurt. Where in heck is Tyler Hansbrough?
    BTW – very entertaining NBA game that the Raps don’t have to hang their heads about losing.

  • The Grey Nathan

    I have to add my voice as well. You’re out of your mind for nitpicking T Ross tonight. And I’d submit he was actually good on D… Yeah Crawford went off, but that happens. Ross was disrupting passing lanes, rotating well… But that doesn’t even matter. 51 points! Say what you want about his ceiling, but there’s not a lot of guys who can drop 51. Just an A! I can’t believe it… I was expecting jubilation on here tonight. I still have goosebumps.

  • NoA+?

    51 points and it can’t be enjoyed by some. Hilarious. I heard when Wilt scored 100 he got blown by his defender a few times and had a couple turnovers. The next day’s paper gave him a B-.

  • Val Jasme

    It should be A+ for TRoss!! damnit! you’ve still got to give this team props! They fought hard to the end even Patterson and Demar is in the locker room!! need some good vibes here

  • Shadow Of Christ

    Give. Ross. An A+! That is all.

  • Mexiballer

    How are the Raptors supposed to play their type of had nosed tough defence to win a game against a team like the Clippers, if the referees will barely let them touch the man their guarding. The refs made the Clippers untouchable all night which gives them plenty of room to operate and use their offensive weapons all night long. Ive never seen so many phantom calls in a single game. How does the best league in the world have so much bad referring night after night. Im not saying that that is the reason the Raptors lost. Im saying that you really don’t have a chance if your a tough young defensive minded team and the referees won’t let you play the game. You have to back off and chase.

    • Louvens Remy

      Also, I saw Blake travel atleast 3 times. Whatever. The NBA is weird and elitist.

  • Louvens Remy

    #LOLZarar
    C’mon Son! No one could guard him either. sometimes when both guys are hot then both guys are hot.
    Ross A++++++++++++++

  • Louvens Remy

    #LOL at all the stat heads who tried to tell me that Amir was our best player. Love him but seriously folks. There are plenty of people that do what he do.

    • StabbyRaccoon

      Well when he struggles he’s not their best player according to the stat heads. His stats have recently been declining, which is sad. He also has a lot of value that isn’t represented in stats besides +- like setting screens. And at the same time it has become apparent that Kyle Lowry is their best player, while Amir might just be their most valuable contract if he gets back to his old self.

  • Louvens Remy

    I think you should grade both teams. Bc is Ross got just an A, what did Crawford get a B?

  • GoingBig

    Indifferent to whatever grade given here. Saw the Raptors play an elite team, good quality effort, stayed with them. But they have weaknesses that show up at this level of competition. Good to know so that maybe something will be done at the trade dead-line

    And they have a more important game on Monday against Brooklyn.

  • Cameron Becker

    Poor rating, I do kind of understand the logic, but I’ve seen far worse games given A+ on this site, and this is an understatement considing how incredible Ross was tonight. The dude carried the offense all game, played his heart out and ran himself into the ground, got beat a few times off screens at the end whilst exhausted and gets nitpicked. Poor form.

  • TheJonez

    So should kd be an Allstar ………… He takes a lot of long jumpers still

  • Lorenzo

    Are you fucking kidding me?? This motherfucker got FIFTY ONE(!!) motherfucking points and he doesn’t get an A+!?!?!?!

    Now you’re nitpicking, just to nitpick. The fuck is wrong with you

    • Keepup

      51 + 9 rebounds…. Maybe 60 and 10 is the new standard for an A+.

  • Raptogram

    Not to keep harping on it, but does TRoss do this if Gay is still a Raptor?

  • Hedo Turkoglu

    Ball.

  • Thornbury

    Was at the game tonight and I have to say there was never a point when I thought the Raps were gonna win. Just didn’t seem like a team ready to play. Defense on Crawford was horrendous.

  • jonazzing

    vince turned 37 today haha

  • From the bench

    That was an AWESOME game to watch! Outside of swan diving at Crawfords knee caps in the second quarter I’m not sure there was any defender who could slow him down. Credit the coaching staff and players for at least slowing him down a bit in the second half but in the end the Clippers have too many weapons. Individually I felt like Jonas stepped up to the challenge with Jordan and slowed him down, but I think that this game exposed another weaknesses for the Raptors. We really need a power forward that can post up (preferably a vet). While I like Amir, this last few weeks has exposed the fact that he is best when used as a sixth man. As a starter I don’t feel like his style of game and body type can handle the extensive banging and minutes. Going forward I hope that Ross can continue to use the dribble and pump fakes to take his game to another level as more than just a spot up shooter.

  • http://www.facebook.com/asifyouknow Al Asifyouknow

    Funny thing about fans, the team lost, had a terrible night and all they worry about is why this site did not give one player an A+ rating …… who cares, the team lost, I guess this confirms what I’ve been saying the last few years , fanhood is about fantasy games and not the real team,
    just saying.

    • Keepup

      Obviously, winning is the most important thing, but it isn’t just a minor footnote when a sophomore player like Ross goes off for a franchise record in points… tied for the most points scored by a Raptor in more than 1,400 games. Kid deserved some props…

      • asifyouknow

        Fair enough…