Chicago Bulls 94 Final

Recap | Box Score

92 Toronto Raptors
Patrick Patterson, PF Shot Chart 22 MIN | 2-6 FG | 0-0 FT | 6 REB | 1 AST | 2 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 5 PTS | -12A painful reminder of how desperate we are to get Amir back healthy in the starting five. Did an OK job, all things considered, but he really isn’t that guy to battle with the Bulls front court. Boozer owned him the entire time he was on the floor, and he didn’t fair much better with Gibson. Played sparingly in the 2nd half in favour of Hansbrough and Amir.

Terrence Ross, SF Shot Chart 26 MIN | 4-9 FG | 1-1 FT | 1 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 9 PTS | -3Did a poor job of drawing contact on his jumpers, and in fact, seemed oblivious to the fact that Butler was running him down and blocking him from behind every time. Played some really solid defense, especially his perimeter rotations, but yea, forgettable night on the whole.

Jonas Valanciunas, C Shot Chart 22 MIN | 1-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -13Quite possibly the worst game of the season for JV. Was out-classed by Noah, which is understandable, but to get out-muscled? How many times did we see Noah will his way to a rebound on either end of the floor? These sorts of showings aren’t acceptable, and frankly, are quite disappointing.

Kyle Lowry, PG Shot Chart 34 MIN | 4-13 FG | 7-7 FT | 5 REB | 7 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 16 PTS | +8Was a non-factor stretches through the game thanks to foul trouble and fatigue. Legs weren’t there on his jumpers. No explosiveness off the bounce. Made a couple ballsy plays in the 4th quarter after picking up his 5th foul, but considering he had to deal with Hinrich and Augustin for the night, I expected much better; in fact, you could argue that both Bulls PG’s got the better of him. That three with a minute and a half left in the game came out of nowhere and energized the team, but it was a little too late.

DeMar DeRozan, SG Shot Chart 42 MIN | 11-25 FG | 10-11 FT | 5 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 32 PTS | 0Didn’t settle for jumpers, and in fact, attacked the paint relentlessly off the dribble. This is the sort of thing that All-Stars do on the second night of a back-to-back against a stifling defense. Single-handedly kept the Raptors in the game in the 4th, but just didn’t have the support from the rest of the guys to take it home. That last pay against Butler could have used a bit more creativity, but I’m just nit-picking at this point.

Tyler Hansbrough, PF Shot Chart 25 MIN | 4-7 FG | 0-1 FT | 7 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 8 PTS | +9Went toe-to-toe with the Bulls front court and didn’t give up an inch. That 2nd quarter is exactly the type effort that was needed in this game, and without it, the game wouldn’t have come down to the wire. The stat-line wasn’t impressive, but the effort spoke for itself.

Amir Johnson, PF Shot Chart 27 MIN | 4-6 FG | 1-3 FT | 3 REB | 4 AST | 2 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 9 PTS | +12I’m good with easing him back into things (if you can call 27 minutes off the bench easing things in) to ensure his health for the stretch run and playoffs, but we really need him back in the starting lineup. There is no good look for the front court with Amir hobbled. Gave a big spark to the team off the bench, but we needed more out of him.

John Salmons, SF Shot Chart 24 MIN | 2-6 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 2 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 4 PTS | -1Did what was expected, but was pretty invisible throughout the game. Had to go back to my notes for something to say, and noticed I didn’t write a word about him. A C sound safe.

Greivis Vasquez, PG Shot Chart 17 MIN | 3-8 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 7 PTS | -10So the good news is that he can get that running floater off at will; the bad news is that he has trouble making is stick. Provided a bit of scoring cover in relief of Ross, but when Hinrich is beating you off the dribble, things aren’t going well for you.

Dwane Casey
Played a tight 9-man rotation, and for the most part had the right guys on the court at the right considering injuries and what not. On three occasions made a proper timeout call to squash a Bulls run. Had no problem with his game management until that last play of the game, where an ISO was called for DeRozan without an attempt to get him free off a screen or something.

Five Things We Saw

  1. The Bulls ball-movement was world-class. They hit every cutter and open shooter they possibly could. I stopped counting after three of them, but they embarrassed the Raptors defense by sticking those back-door cuts with surgical precision. 25 assists on 36 made field goals for 50% from the field from a team that has a hard time scoring is impressive.
  2. JV and 2Pat is one of the worst front-courts the Raptors could have trotted out against the Bulls. If there was any knock on Casey, and I should have docked him for this, it’s that Hansbrough only played 25 minutes in a game that was tailor made for him. I’m wondering what a healthy Amir + Hansbrough with 2Pat off the bench could have done to help tonight.
  3. Might sound crazy, but that third quarter was what did the raptors in. The Bulls opened the quarter on a 20-12 run, and while the the Raptors outscored the Bulls 39-24 the rest of the game, they were coming from behind and just didn’t have any gas at the tank when they needed to be creative with the game on the line.
  4. The refs needed to call this game more on feel and less by the book. A combined 48 personal fouls and 7 technicals did nothing but destabilize things. Even worse were the makeup calls.
  5. It was a hard fought game, that saw the Raptors scratch, claw, and grind there way to a one possession loss to one of the best defensive teams in the league. On the second night of a back-to-back, you really couldn’t ask for that level of intensity and effort. The Raptors can hold their heads up after that one.

  • RaptorsKOR

    Lesson learned: Do not ever give the ball to Demar in clutch situation. We’ve seen enough of him failing

    • DDayLewis

      Okay, but combine Casey’s utter lack of playcalling abilities, and no other “shot-creators” on this team, where do you go at the end of the game?

      • FREEJV

        L.O.W.R.Y

        • DDayLewis

          You know Lowry’s only move in crunch time is that pull-up three, right?

          • FREEJV

            you know demars only move is to choke right?

            • DDayLewis

              Thanks for adding to this discussion with that killer joke.

              • FREEJV

                who said it was a joke?

                • RaptorsKOR

                  LOLLL

                • Steverino

                  Unfortunately it’s more reality than joke. But it’s on the coach more than DeRozan. He’s just ill-equipped to do it all himself. He works best in a team concept, as do most players.

                • MoPeteRules

                  hahahaha well played

          • ad

            How do you know lowry’s only move in crunch time is a pull up 3? He has barely had any chances if at all this year becuase of casey’s irrational faith in dd.

            • DDayLewis

              Go back and re-watch some close finishes. Lowry has a big tendency to jack pull-up threes in the clutch.

              In fact, he did so tonight in the final 2 minutes.

              • ad

                Doesnt mean he will always do that. Also, that 3 went in proving he CAN hit big shots unlike dd who can barely dribble.

                • DDayLewis

                  Look, I’m not advocating for Derozan to get the ball over Lowry in crunch time. I’m simply stating that since Casey keeps running basic clear-outs for one player, Derozan might be a better bet in isolation scenarios as compared to Lowry.

                • MoPeteRules

                  and i think that’s where most everyone disagrees with you

                • Steverino

                  That is empirically untrue. A strong iso play must be able to handle the ball. DeRozan hasn’t proved he can do this with any consistency. But your larger point, that Casey keeps running basic clear-outs is right. Although they’re hardly clear. He’s got the lane all clogged.

                • DDayLewis

                  According to Synergy Sports, Derozan has scored (made FG or FTs) on 44.7% of his isolation plays. Lowry has scored on 37.9% of his isolation plays.

                  http://mysynergysports.com/

                  And let’s not blow this out of proportion. Derozan can handle the ball, just not as well as Lowry, but his athleticism and height makes it easier for him to get off a semi-clean look.

                • Steverino

                  That link didn’t show me anything. Do you have the direct link? And how do they define isolation plays? Only at the end of a game? Because that’s what we’re talking about. It’s a little different at other points throughout a game, like the ends of quarters where the point guard usually has the ball (not a fan of this either). If the stat you cite is only for the end of a game, the sample size must be so small because Lowry just hasn’t been given a chance. Or are those career stats?

                • Abused Raptors Fan

                  Actually, if you check their shooting splits in the 4th, neither of them shoots well as this team still has hero ball tendencies when the game is close in the 4th

                • DDayLewis

                  There isn’t a direct link. You need to type in their names and click the drop-down menu.

                  The site aggregates all iso-plays into one basket and doesn’t discriminate between “crunch-time iso plays” and just regular ones.

                  Edit: those stats are for this season

                • Nilanka15

                  Scoring isn’t the only outcome we’re looking for. In an isolation play, Lowry has the ability to shoot or create an open look for a teammate. DeRozan, not so much.

              • JRedmond14

                …..and made them

                • DDayLewis

                  Yup.

      • RaptorsKOR

        Lowry. He will either create a chance for other players or shoot.
        Derozan, he always chokes himself cuz he only tries to shoot.

        • DDayLewis

          See below. My contention is that Lowry’s only move in crunch time is pulling up for three off the dribble.

          • RaptorsKOR

            Nah. Lowry’s 3 has higher chance than giving Derozan the ball. Seriously, he barely ends up taking the proper shot. He either gets blocked or slips the ball off his hands.

            • DDayLewis

              I’m not opposed to running offense through Lowry on a crunchtime play, but give that Casey’s after time out plays are so terrible, the result would likely be a Lowry iso-pull up three, and given his height, Lowry sometimes has trouble getting the shot off.

              • Chewwy No Matthew

                The bottom line is DeMar is an awful dribbler. At the end of the Portland game, near the end of the New Orleans game and twice in 9 seconds tonight he has not even gotten a shot off. Demar is terrific at a catch and shoot off a screen after receiving a pass. Again, he CANNOT dribble. Lastly, I do not understand why absolutely no top screen was set to end the game. Very easy for Butler to defend.

                • DDayLewis

                  Again, totally agree with you on all accounts. A lot of the blame should fall on Casey for incorrectly using his players.

                  But calling an iso for your top offensive player (I’d contend it’s Lowry, but clearly Casey thinks DD is #1) is par for the course in the NBA.

                • Steverino

                  Exactly. Put the ball in Lowry’s hands. It doesn’t mean he’s going to shoot. He’ll find whoever’s open or take it himself. At least he’ll get a shot off. If that DeRozan 1-on-5 play worked so well, they’d run it all game. But it doesn’t. Run a real play.

                • morgan c

                  … or just defend a high school level simplistic cut once in a while against an anemic offense, and we aren’t in this position…

          • Nilanka15

            That’s still a better option than Demar barreling into a defender. Lowry can get separation on that shot. Something Demar can’t do without a screen.

      • CJT

        I guess I don’t understand why we can rely on ball movement for 46 minutes of each game to create open looks for people and when it comes down to clutch situations we exclusively use iso plays? I personally would rather have Amir take a jump hook off the drive and dish or have Salmons, Vasquez, Lowry, Patterson etc. take an open jumper than what continues to happen on the iso. I am not on DD for this, he has been a warrior this year and works his ass off, but I can’t recall him taking an uncontested shot in the last 24 seconds of a game.
        I also have to say that I am getting more and more disappointed with the reputation based reffing that is becoming so obvious on a game to game basis. I know Chicago is a great defensive team, but they get away with so many fouls based on that reputation. It’s like a reverse LeBron.

        • DDayLewis

          Agree with everything you’ve said here (maybe not the Vasquez shooting thing, he’s shooting like 30% from the field). It’s on Casey to do better.

          And the Bulls do get away with a lot fouls. Noah moves on every single screen.

          • CJT

            Agreed, but I would still take 30% from Vasquez than another non shot from an iso play. That’s a 30% higher chance of scoring. :)

            • Steverino

              And one presumes that DD has an option to pass in those iso plays, an option he never takes. He’d rather pick his dribble up early, pump fake a couple of times then fade and drop to the floor, ball nowhere near the rim. So while it’s largely on Casey, DD has to take responsibility, too.

              • Abused Raptors Fan

                If Casey draws up a play with no off the ball action with everyone clearing out to the sides, DD isn’t left with a lot of passing options. At this point, Casey should recognize his key players strengths n weaknesses and design plays accordingly. One things for sure, opposing defenses are doing just that at the enf of the game

        • James Slim

          I my mum the same question, though I said “47 minutes”

      • Roarque

        Way cruel Will = Casey has been better since, well you know .

        • DDayLewis

          What?

          • Dr.Scooby

            allow me to translate: Casey kinda better now, need respect more…you know….

            • DDayLewis

              Oh. Cool. Erm, he has coached better since the Gay deal, but it still isn’t very good?

              • James Slim

                I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a team compete every night. The Raps’ biggest loss is 16 points I believe, only Bulls, Spurs, Clippers and Nuggets have beaten them by double figures, and thegs/Clips games were blown out in the last few minutes. It’s great to know you can look up at score and even if it’s ugly, they come back and make a game of things. The next step is to start winning some close ones, but with their competitiveness, it’s bound to follow soon.

                For Casey, those one possession losses on bad play calls are frustrating, but he has the team competing on a regular basis. And I’d prefer one minute’s worth of bad play calls than 47. Of course, a full 48 minutes of good play calling will be nice. Anyway, the Raps continue to get better under Casey, and he deserves credit for that, even if he’s not a plays expert.

      • big boi

        You try harder to get an open shot. You either move the ball, or set up a drive and kick. I don’t care who shoots it if it’s an open shot. That’s a quality shot you live or die with. Much prefer to live or die with that than what we saw tonite, and its not the first time. You have a time out, figure it out…run…something.

    • morgan c

      Lesson learned: don’t play pathetic defense for halves at a time, just like we did against Sac-town. Inexcusable.

      • Steverino

        Well, *we’ve* learned the lesson. Not sure about the Raptors.

  • Tinman

    Not a team that I’d want to face in the playoffs

    • FREEJV

      we ll beat them 4-1 in playoffs they played their best offensive game today and barely won.

      • truth be told

        I would love to see them in the playoffs……..with D.Rose and L.Deng.

        Now that was a team. What they have now, is telling that they are where they are in the conference.

  • kyle

    prediction: a load of comments ignoring how good DD was for the first 40 minutes of the game

    • FREEJV

      how good was he? i saw him bricking 3s? and dont get me started on his defense.

      • kyle

        oooooh
        you wanna fight brah?

        • FREEJV

          umm anyways….#faketoughguy

          • kyle

            #shoryuken

            • Abused Raptors Fan

              #usinghashtagsoutaideoftwitterismoronic

    • jvwakeup

      Wasn’t DD’s fault at end. Bad plays.

    • Steverino

      Largely irrelevant.

  • FREEJV

    haha A+ for Derozan dont make me laugh.

    • Chewwy No Matthew

      Demar definitely doesn’t deserve an A+. He did not play good defence and shot less than 50 %. Also the last two possessions spoke volumes.

    • johng_3

      We wouldn’t even be in the game if DeMar doesn’t go off for 30.

      • FREEJV

        how do you know this are you from the future? maybe if we gave his shots to lowry we win this game.

        • johng_3

          LOL so my PG, who is shooting 4-13, should just keep on shooting to break out of his funk, instead of doing his job and pass the ball to his teammates? Because frankly, if you take DeMar out of the game, you know Lowry is just chucking deep contested 3s.

          • FREEJV

            at least he can make a 3 unlike someone … not gonna say his name but it starts with Deroz…….

            • johng_3

              lame

              • FREEJV

                thats what i said about Derozans last 2 possessions

              • Steverino

                Yeah, you can’t really look at a game like that. Take him out of the game, and it’s a different dynamic completely. It’s not like no one else wouldn’t step up. They might have, they might not have. Neither of us knows. I remember people saying the Raptors couldn’t replace Rudy Gay’s numbers when he left. But it’s called a team for a reason. And they’re all professional players. Chances are, those 30 points would have been spread around to different players. You know, they managed to win against Brooklyn when DD was out.

                • johng_3

                  So your practically saying any player on this team could score 30. You can tell by looking at the outlook of the game that everyone was looking at DD to be aggressive. If you expect 30 points to magically appear from TRoss, JV or whoever, then you are delusional

        • Fred or Something

          I don’t think the game is still up in the air in the future

        • WHAT THE

          yeah ! and mybe if we gave mr. 7fter one hander rebounder JV mins. to Hansbro we win the game what?

  • JRedmond14

    Would loved to have seen Novak in when Dunleavy was playing instead of Salmons. Salmons doesn’t have the defence or legs in his shots on back2back games

    • DDayLewis

      You wanted to see Novak in for defensive purposes?

      • FREEJV

        they shot 50% nice defense without Novak…..

        • DDayLewis

          Yeah, and Novak is a bad defender.

          • FREEJV

            cant do worse than demar

            • DDayLewis

              Demar isn’t a very good defender either.

              • asifyouknow

                Rumors are the new commissioner is going to allow more hand checking on the guards (like the old days) they stopped that to get more scoring, but now they are finding out this is becoming a league where guards have a free pass to the bucket, you can’t hardly touch one without getting a foul. That may help DeMar.
                It will change the game for sure.
                I guess what I’m saying is that in todays NBA everybody is a bad defender…lol

                • DDayLewis

                  I doubt that the NBA wants to go back to the grit-and-grind ’90s.

                • asifyouknow

                  we will know soon…

            • Steverino

              The point is, the Raptors were down by 15 and nobody could hit an open shot. It was worth a try to put him in there and see if he could stretch the D a little. If not, sit him down. But you have a weapon like that so you should use it. It’s not like they lost every game he has played in.

      • JRedmond14

        Did I say that? Salmons can’t hit an open three on a back to back. Also the Novak- Bad Defense thing is getting old for me. He is an underrated hedger and brings effort. He would have been good against all the Chicago screens tonight actually

        • DDayLewis

          No, Novak’s defensive issues might be repeated ad nauseum, but he is a terrible defender. Even with Salmons on the second night of a back to back, he’s still a better defender than a fully rested Novak

          • JRedmond14

            Debatable. That being said neither Salmons or Ross did a good job on dunleavy tonight

            • DDayLewis

              Mostly Salmons. Ross was really lost on defense. Tense physical games are not in Ross’ wheelhouse right now. Loses focus.

            • asifyouknow

              I do understand all the defense stuff many folks are fascinated by but facts are the team with most points gets the prize, I believe in the first half Toronto did ok on defense but you still got to pass the ball and hit a shot, they did non of it….

          • Steverino

            And Novak is a better shooter. What did they need tonight? Their defense, at least as far as points allowed goes, was decent. They needed scoring. Basketball is a two-way game. Some players are better at one end than the other. Big deal. Ot works both ways.

  • ckh26

    Demar gave it all he had tonite. Glad he is on our side. That was a great game tonite and unfortunately we lost. it. It had the same intensity as the one in Brooklyn that we took from the Nets with 6 seconds to go by stealing an inbounds pass. Really tough playoff games. A tong war out there.

    I truly hope Nancy Valanciunas’s swelling goes down and his balls pop back out. That was just a putrid effort.

  • jv sleepy

    Should have had at least a chance to win it at end. Terrible plays called by Casey.

  • DDayLewis

    Here’s a fun game to play with your friends:

    If tomorrow was game 7 of the NBA finals and you could pick any active center to start for your team (assume injured guys like Lopez are healthy), who would you start over Valanciunas?

    • consmap

      Harsh.
      But I would pick Hibbert.
      We love you JV.

    • FREEJV

      ask me this in 3 years

      • DDayLewis

        Noted. See you ere on RR in three years.

        • FREEJV

          ok save my comment

    • Adriiian

      LeBron. He can go 1 to 5 right?

      • DDayLewis

        Nah that’s cheating. The player has to have played at least 50% of his minutes at center this season.

        • Adriiian

          I’d pick Bosh then.

        • Abused Raptors Fan

          Hibert, Howard, Gasol, Noah, Davis, Drummond? Though I agree, it’s a different convo in a few years, as it would be with pretty much any sophmore center in this situation

    • Mac

      I’ve got a game, lets all shit on a 21 year old in his second NBA season because he’s not as tough as Zach Randolph

      • DDayLewis

        How is that shitting on Jonas? What part of that is shitting on Jonas?

        • Adriiian

          “who would you start over Valanciunas?”

          right there.

          • DDayLewis

            Seriously? That’s shitting on someone?

            • Adriiian

              I don’t think so. But Mac did, and you brought up the question because JV had a brutal game right?

              • DDayLewis

                Partially, yeah.

                I asked it on twitter tonight during the game as well. I think everyone should temper their expectations of the kid in the short term. I have full confidence in his potential going forward, but he’s not a top-15 center right now and I suspect many fans here are.

                • Dr.Scooby

                  top 15 center! Dang, he’s gone from possible franchise center to top 5 to top 10 and now top 15.

                  hahahahaa

                • Steverino

                  Please list your top 15.

      • FREEJV

        he hates Jonas guys he did the same thing after the rising stars game dont worry.

    • ckh26

      Off tonites effort I would take a vagrant at the bus station over JV.
      However, I will take this as just one of those nights and if I had to start someone over JV I would take Marc Gasol.

      • DDayLewis

        If I had to choose one, I’m also going with Marc. Overall, I’d rather have: Hibbert, Noah, Marc, Pau, Chandler, Horford, both Lopez brothers, Pek, Splitter, Boogie, Dwight, DeAndre Jordan, Bogut, Big Al, Varajeo and Bosh over him.

        Depending on who else was on my team, I might opt for Drummond or Vuvcevic instead of Jonas.

        And again, I’m not condemning him over one game, nor am I writing his future off. My point is that Jonas isn’t a top-20 center right now, and yet we’re surprised when he doesn’t play like one.

  • FREEJV

    Can we give the ball to lowry for once ? …..

  • Adriiian

    Is it just me or is Vasquez a bad point guard? Offensive fouls, missed shots. I got nothing against him, but he sucks.
    Lowry was bad most of the night, so was TRoss.
    Gotta love Tyler and Amir tho.
    DJ Augustin, that fucker.

    • asifyouknow

      DJ is coming back next year that should make you happy…

    • asifyouknow

      There was not one player who did not suck tonight including the coach…Lowry shot 32% started 1-7is that good? DeMar looked like an amateur in crunch time and got beat all night on defense. No rebounds and all you can come up with is that Vaz sucks….incredible…lol

  • Red Baron

    Demar came up big for us all game so can’t complain, but on a possession to win a game in last 10 seconds, i think a better option is to put ball in Kyle’s hands and spread the floor with a few shooters. If you want Demar taking the shot you have to run a screen play for him as he doesn’t have the handles for any ankle breaking move to create space for last shot, as you knew Bulls would be all over him like a coat and there was going to be no foul call. Still, Raps showed me something tonight. After they trimmed the lead 3-4 times just to see Bulls run it up again, I thought they were going to lay down, but fought to the final buzzer. Also, i’m a big Val fan, but what was that tonight? is it just me or does he really seem to lack any type of lift or endurance this year (not just lately, all year)…he doesn’t seem to be able to get up high for 50/50 rebounds and/or blocks. I thought part of the book on him when he came over from Lithuania was that he had some decent hops?

  • Dr.Scooby

    Gawd, I really wish we had a better team than we do.

    • Guest

      Really?

    • JRedmond14

      Bandwagon Fan

      • Dr.Scooby

        I’m no bandwagon fan; I’ve followed them year after year for a long time.

        We got punked at home by a rival who played without Rose (or Deng). The Raptor’s turfed it.

        • JRedmond14

          If you aren’t a bandwagon fan then stop complaining about the team we got right now. We lost be two to a tough team that wasn’t playing a back-to-back. Their record is actually better since Deng left. Did we also play without Rudy Gay tonight?

          • truth be told

            Yes, stop complaining, because only these type of fans may determine when and how you support your team.

            Blog Nazi’s need to settle down. If not everyone shares your opinions then don’t respond to the messages.

            This dude is comparing D. Rose to R. Gay!lol

            I think the point to the comment was they are losing to a Bulls team at home without Rose, who is by far their best player and a recently traded Deng. What happens next year when Rose is back and Mirotic comes over? Big picture man, big picture. Some of the homers will only get it once they fall back into the lottery next year.

    • truth be told

      Bandwagon homer fan, with most likely a limited knowledge of the game.

  • Fukcasey

    huh.. did this person even watch the game :S…. everything written about the players and coach is so off.. dude Casey gets an A for this game? my goodness.. we raptors fan deserve this coach then..

    • DD

      shit and Derozan has an A+ loll my god

  • Roarque

    Been out of touch since the ASG – stuck in America where they don’t broadcast from the GWN. Have they traded Supernova yet?

  • asifyouknow

    What the heck were those last TWO plays all about . Is this the best a possible coach of the year candidate could come up with?

    Horrific! Even worse the all-star DeMar looking like a lost puppy, picking up his dribble with no where to go.

    If one is going to iso and be LIKE MIKE you better- at least- make credible attempt, that hero disaster is not what an all star does.

    Casey would of been better running a pick and roll that at least would of given them a shot at a foul. Coach Casey most be drinking the all-star Kool-aid.

    I love DeMar but he is not MJ or Kobe sorry folks.

    The second horrific play:

    In bound 2+ seconds left DeMar gets the ball, dribbles from behind foul line to mid court and shot puts a 50 footer, guess who was open in his spot tenths of a second after DeMar got the ball? NOVAK in his spot. All DeMar had to do id look up, but clearly his intention was to make this his win or loss.

    This was a winnable game, terrible last 60 seconds.

  • jesus

    nitpicking? how many games do the raptors have to lose by running the same damn iso for demar on the last play? portland anyone? charlotte anyone?

    how can dwane get good grades for that coaching effort? dwane casey is one of the laziest and dopiest coaches in the nba. rule #1, always put the ball in your best ballhandlers hands. that aint demar ‘ima dribble it off my shoe – double pump fake’ derozan.

    i got no problems with demar taking the last shot, but maybe we could set a pick? have him come off a screen? cutting to the rim? or am i re-inventing the wheel here? in any case, let lowry decide, hes the court general, not to mention he can hit the step back three, which demar struggles to (demar is shooting 16% in the last minute of games decided by 5 points or less….thats gotta count for something on this planet)

    also, this would have been a perfect game for chuck, who sat the whole wiz game. he could have held his own in the paint, and i guarantee he would have done better than amirs and JV combined 5 rebound effort tonight (ill give amir props for pulling down that last offensive rebound…thats only 4 less than tyler pulled down tonight). they were getting manhandled downlow, the only guy who held his own was tyler. why chuck was left out of the rotation, can only be credited to dwanes genius.

    also raps, were bricking it from 3 for the most part, and this also would have been a good match up night for novak to get some minutes. dunleavy aint gonna blow by anybody, and he would have been able to stretch the d by likely connecting on a 3 or two. again, why he was left out of the rotation, we can only credit to dwane lazy’s keen eye for the game of basketball. im not saying novak was make or break, but ross did relatively little tonight, and hasnt been the lock down defender we need lately.

    the great thing about the raptors, and casey in particular, is that there will be no lessons learned. the ball will not be put in lowrys hand when the game is on the line (unless demar is out with injury – hello brooklyn nets last minute VICTORY). and casey will not change his rotation to match up with any other team.

    i fully expected casey to take the blame in the portland game when he ran the same iso inbound play for demar that was stopped both times in a point game that resulted in a loss. but to his credit, he was completely nonchalant and didnt find it odd that the play didnt change between time outs, and that it never included lowry. same thing with the charlotte loss.

    as for the good, tyler held it down the post, salmons wasnt half bad, and i cant knock lowrys effort, he looked tired in the first half, and considering he and derozan were the only guys that really got big minutes in wsh, im not surprised.

    i know trade dealine is almost past, but cant we trade casey like they did with doc and get a draft pick or something?

    • CP23

      I haven’t seen the post game presser yet, but I bet Casey said something along the lines of “We went with the hot hand at the end of the game, and they defended it well.” He might also say something about horseshoes, hand grenades, and HEY LOOK OVER THERE as he scampers out of sight.

      • CP23

        Finally listened to the post-game press conference:

        Reporter: “What were you trying to get on that last play?”

        Casey: “To get Demar going downhill towards the basket, rip and go, that was one of the things we got to execute on, you know. Get the ball to our top player, he had 32, he was the only one with anything going, um, you know, and get something good.”

        Such a detailed explanation, I wonder why the raps had to take a timeout before running the play, considering it’s so incredibly detailed. Why did we even send the other 4 guys on the floor? Casey is delusional, Demar killed a good 7-9 seconds of clock before doing anything. I guess that’s his definition of “rip and go”… let Demarudy figure it out!

        I just wish for once in his whole goddamn career as coach of the raptors Casey would take the heat for ONE single thing. It’s as easy as this “Maybe it wasn’t the best play to run, Butler defended it well, once the lane closed up, Demar had nowhere to go, so next time we need to get more ball movement and find the open man, run some secondary options” How hard is that? Somebody please fire this guy already. It didn’t work in Portland – twice, it didn’t work in Charlotte, I’ll give him credit, it did work in Dallas (Demar was having a horrible shooting night, but muscled a shot over Marion), and it didn’t work last night. Move the f on Casey. Try to evolve at least a little bit as a coach.

        As part of the same interview:

        Reporter: “Demar’s had some struggles in the final minutes of games…”

        “Coach” Casey: “Well, it’s growing, it’s growing. You know, he’s our go-to guy. Throughout the game he gave us 32 points um, and that’s what, he’s gonna grow into that role, closing games, and that’s something that um, you know he’s gotta learn to do. Again it’s not from lack of trying, he made a strong move in there and got into the paint, goes up, got his shot off, um you know, I don’t know how you can fault that.”

        Jeez Dwane I don’t know, maybe we can fault the guy who’s running the team and calling the plays? Casey is so deep in denial it’s sad. Demar shouldn’t be the go-to guy. Every guy with two eyes can tell you Lowry will make better decisions in the clutch (see Brooklyn game).

        And then to claim that Demar’s move was a “strong one” and that he got the shot off? Were we watching the same game? He got stuffed half an inch off the ground, had zero separation and nowhere to go. Have pity on Demar, run a play for him and let him try to get off an open look….something, anything! Why is Casey setting him up for failure?

        I’ve often felt this year that the Raptors win games in spite of Casey’s coaching, and in spite of Demar’s shoot first ask questions later tactics. I haven’t heard the Demar presser, but countless time’s this year the team has played horrible quarters, horrible halves, no effort defensively, and Demar’s stock response is “I don’t think we played bad. We missed some shots we usually make.” He’s just as delusional as Casey is.

        None of this would matter if it didn’t affect the rest of the team. But it’s not like Lowry hasn’t been on the court in all these games to watch the ball get taken out of his hands. At what point does he start to resent the fact that he’s not trusted to make the right decision? When 2Pat stole the inbounds, Lowry could have gone barreling into the lane, but he got right it back to a wide open Patterson (Nets game). Why is Casey so against trusting his point guard? Why is he so against running plays on crucial possessions? Why is he so against coaching this team?

        I just wonder how many more times Lowry can watch these end of game Demar iso’s before throwing a fit and ripping the ball out of Demar’s hands. Casey’s playbook harkens back to the days of Chris Bosh when the last play of the game was to hand him the ball from 19 feet out and clear out so he can take a contested jumper. That’s fine if you’re Kobe or KD…and even then it’s not really, but you trust those guys a little bit more. Might as well call him Demelo and the Na-Knicks of the North.

        This team just lost another crucial game to a team their battling for playoff seeding with, a game that didn’t need to be that close, but that they still had a chance to pull out. I worry that come playoff time Casey and his empty playbook will cost the team dearly when execution matters most.

        I’m hoping Masai cans the guy, the sooner, the better. I appreciate his emphasis on defense, but surely there’s a coach out there who can instill defense and perhaps some last minute plays too? Is that too much to ask a Raptors fan???

        There’s nothing more frustrating than watching 5 guys battle back as a team to get a shot at winning, only to have the same predictable outcome. I was texting a buddy while they were in the timeout and called the play right down to Demar trying to pump fake his way out of trouble. I don’t even watch half the raptor games. If some disgruntled fan (and also, clearly, disgruntled reporter) can see the pattern, why is it so hard for Casey to get it through his thick skull? The guy is hopeless…he’s a scrub and a joke. Any games this team wins is in spite of his coaching.

        /rant

        • Dude

          u mad

    • vgosu

      My irony sense is tingling, weren’t you the asshole in William Lou’s be respectful article?

      • vgosu

        And sure, I would agree with your point, if standing for the Raptors doesn’t also mean trashing everyone who disagrees. At the end of the day, even the tankers you dislike are fans of the team because they want long-term success through the draft. Whether that works or not is entirely debatable, but when you slam the door and call everyone who thinks that way an idiot, yeah, it kind of makes you an asshole. And that was the point of Lou’s article, was it not? That you can disagree and still be a Raptors fan?

        • truth be told

          No, let him trash away.

          He thinks it makes him look like a bigger fan of the team but only confirms everyone’s initial thoughts.

      • truth be told

        It does. Congrats homer.

    • big boi

      Totally credible re Demar. Why is a play that is recognized as totally inefficient through 47.7 mins seen as a smart idea for the last play of the game? We saw where hero ball got us to start the year. DD shouldnt have picked up his dribble, but that play looked doomed from the start.

    • YN4

      NOOOOOO MOOOOOOORE ISOOOOOOO FOR DEMAR!!!!!!!!!!!! how many games we gonna lose before coach comes up with a PLAY??? you know, a play.. that thing where players move around, screen, get each other open.. for god sakes that was so hard to watch and so so so predictable. Boo Dwane Casey, you suck at coaching basketball

  • Lawrence C

    I’m a bit flummoxed that you describe Ross’ defense as “pretty solid”, because I feel like he constantly let his man cut to the hoop to catch a pass for an easy layup while Ross was a step behind. Understandable once in a while if you’re guarding Dwyane Wade, but this shit happened with Kirk Hinrich at least 3 times. I felt like his defense was flat out awful overall in this one, and was something I noticed over and over.

  • Adriiian

    I’ve creeped other teams ESPN sites, and ours gets so many more comments? Like wayyyy more…

    • JRedmond14

      Most don’t have forums either

  • asifyouknow

    What the heck were those last TWO plays all about . Is this the best a possible coach of the year candidate could come up with?

    Horrific! Even worse the all-star DeMar looking like a lost puppy, picking up his dribble with no where to go.

    If one is going to iso and be LIKE MIKE you better- at least- make credible attempt, that hero disaster is not what an all star does.

    Casey would of been better running a pick and roll that at least would of given them a shot at a foul. Coach Casey most be drinking the all-star Kool-aid.

    I love DeMar but he is not MJ or Kobe sorry folks.

    The second horrific play:

    In bound 2+ seconds left DeMar gets the ball, dribbles from behind foul line to mid court and shot puts a 50 footer, guess who was open in his spot tenths of a second after DeMar got the ball? NOVAK in his spot. All DeMar had to do id look up, but clearly his intention was to make this his win or loss.

    This was a winnable game, terrible last 60 seconds.

    • Starr

      Dumb Casey always do the same stupid things all the freaking time and expecting a different result.

      • Nilanka15

        The definition of insanity.

      • Abused Raptors Fan

        At least in Portland he went with a handoff from the high post. A play which worked the entire 4th. Tonight was just a Rudy

  • asifyouknow

    Administrator sorry I posted same post two times I cant get rid of one can you delete it…thanks..

  • GuyWithTearsInEyes

    The Ratpors so mediocre at the end of day

    :'(

  • robertparish00

    Team ball got us back into it, iso ball took us out. Casey needs to draw a play with screens and movement. Not iso-ball. We know iso doesn’t work…but to see it twice in a row is really bad.

    • JRedmond14

      Agreed. Especially with 9 seconds on the clock

      • robertparish00

        On top of that if you are running an iso play, clear the side!!! Don’t have Amir standing in the key with Noah, that takes away the drive. But anyways, good entertaining game.

        • JRedmond14

          We are talking about the coach who designed the play with Johnson shooting the three and Novak rebounding in the first Portland game I believe right? Can’t expect too much of Casey should be gone after the season

          • DDayLewis

            T’was against the Nets, and Casey alleged that the play was for Rudy to attack the basket.

            Nevertheless, it was not a good play.

    • Abused Raptors Fan

      What team ball? Did you see our assist totals for the night?!

  • steve fisher

    Something is seriously wrong when your starting center JV takes 3 shots in the entire game. To a certain extent this is a reflection of the fundamental selfishness of a couple of the Raps major ball handlers. Take a look at the number of shots attempted as compared to shots made for certain team mates. This big problem has been building for a while and has not for some reason been addressed by the COACHING staff !! Also the assist total for the night was an unacceptable 16 which usually leads to stagnation and losing. The team must be made aware and given specific instructions to get the ball to JV as they were doing weeks ago with great success. JV will never complain since it is not his nature. Maybe they were partially distracted by tomorrows trade deadline. To have success going forward this MUST CHANGE !! GO RAPS GO !!!

    • asifyouknow

      Mr. Fisher just got done watching the replay (faster without commercials lol) and you are absolutely right on in your take of this game. Some of the stretches looked like hardtop games, not Toronto basketball for sure.
      Here is a curious stat:
      Of the last 10 games DeMar has scored over 30 pts 4 times and they lost 3 of them.

  • Chewwy No Matthew

    I’ve started to notice a very bad habit that JV has. He rebounds one handed. Watch the game and see how many times he tries to tip a ball to himself with one hand while the other hand is just dangling at his side. Against tough centers he will get eaten alive if he doesn’t change this.

  • Chewwy No Matthew

    I also do not understand why the one tough guy we have who was causing the Bulls fits ( Hansborough) spent sooo much time on the bench in the third quarter, especially with the first half energy and effort he gave.

  • c_bcm

    Oh look. DD again doesn’t get a shot off for the game winner. All Stars find a way to get it done when the team needs it the most. Seems like a bit of a troll comment. But it needs to be said nonetheless.

  • dribbles

    There is no universe, except for the one Casey lives in, that drawing up a play for DeRozan to do something with the ball beyond the 3 point line in an iso with Jimmy Butler guarding him is a smart play call. No screen, even? Pretty much anything would be better/smarter than that. Casey has improved in some areas but for end of game play calls he just refuses to cope with reality. Not a good trait in a head coach.

    The refs made some bad calls but the Bulls just made a bunch of tough, low percentage shots in the 4th. Augustin’s long 3, Noah’s crazy running layup, etc. Hinrich doesn’t usually shoot 8-11.

    Bigger concern for me is that Ross and JV just aren’t giving the team enough right now, and points to Casey for not being afraid to sit them when they’re not producing. No point panicking about sophomores but come playoff time the Raps are going to have problems if they’re not getting good production from those guys.

    • GLF

      Couldn’t agree more with Ross and JV. The playoffs is going to do wonders for them. They need to experience that. So does DD. Also Chicago pretty much shot the ball extremely well and hit so many tough shots and they still only won by 2 so that’s good for us. Hinrich going 8-11 is not going to happen often. But our sophomores really need to get better at consistency. I know that takes time though.

      • Dr.Scooby

        I agree JV & Ross will benefit with Playoff time (who wouldn’t?), but saying the Bulls were lucky is ridicules

        • GLF

          It wasn’t so much that they were lucky they played very well. It’s just a lot of guys hit some tough shots and a couple of them shots the ball so much better than their season average. If they played like they normally do offensively I think we win. But at the same time our defense was bad for a good bit of the game so it is on us.

          • Dr.Scooby

            The Bulls average 92.3 points per and allow 92.3 pts per…this is standard Bulls game.

            Raps need consistency from JV & Ross and Casey…and they needs to play hard like Hansborough did in games like this. This is a playoff type game…hopefully they learn and apply what they learn.

            • GLF

              I just you’re right. From the eye test it just look like they were hitting some crazy shots down the stretch. But you are right they NEED to learn from this. I don’t mind the loss as long as they learn from it. The only thing is I don’t expect to see any consistency from JV and Ross this season. That takes time.

  • morgan c

    So I know this comment may not get me a lot of love, but it’s nights like these where it’s super frustrating to be a 2014 Raps’ fan in this shell of an Eastern Conference. Specifically, it’s tough to watch the guy so many have pegged as a franchise center, JV, be completely out-classed in every way. If he can provide even ANYTHING tonight, we win the game. I know he’s still young, but for a number 4 overall pick, he simply must make a gigantic leap next year. I’m willing to watch his anemic performances this year if it means it’s all part of his development into a franchise player and all-star center. But I’m really having my doubts that he will become that guy. Literally, in half the games he plays, he is a bad player. I guess when people spout back “he’s young chill out” I guess I can only say “okay, so we should just be cool with him straight stalling in his development?!”

    • Dr.Scooby

      Kinda redundant, but he needs more than 3 touches in 22 minutes. He’s a proud guy and he was under utilized tonight. Noah or no Noah…want him involved, you need to feed him when he got post position-

    • FREEJV

      i stopped reading this when you said #4 pick ……

      • morgan c

        Okay 5 pick. Big deal.

    • Steverino

      JV averages: 27 mpg, 10.6 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 50.5% fg, 2.9 fta, 73.7% ft, 0.9 blocks.
      Hibbert year 2 averages: 25 mpg, 11.7 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 49.5% fg, 2.8 fta, 75.4% ft, 1.6 blocks.

  • durantula

    bad game for 3 quarters, and bad loss at the end. raptors made a struggling team look far more competent than they are, thanks in large part to their own coaching (lack thereof). i wish casey and co would recognize that bulls cant exactly fill the cup, and maybe try to push the pace (and not wait until we’re down 15-20, as is his usual wake up call to do something). the number of times the raps brought up the ball and held on to it for 10-14 seconds of the shot clock while doing nothing was really offputting. chicago thrives in their half court defensive sets. why the raps continually allowed them to settle into it is beyond me. as a coach you have to alter your gameplan somewhat for whatever team you’re facing. the spurs are primarily defensively oriented, but theyve run and gunned and won against teams like the suns (or more recently the clippers last night). you gotta pick your spots, and casey rarely recognizes that. he did a decent job at keeping the pace slow against the wiz (maybe would have been a good idea to do the same thing against the lakers a couple weeks ago, casey?) who thrive off fast break opportunities, but then against chicago that has an old horse in hinrich at point guard, and boozer gasping for air up and down the court, the raps could have pushed the tempo a bit earlier on. in the 3rd quarter they started to do that, it lead to demar getting an easy fast break layup, and on the next play raps pushed it and 2pat was able to get an offensive rebound and easy put back as chicago hadnt caught up with their assigned players. its little stuff like that, that goes a long way to helping your team win (from a coaching stand point). casey and co too rarely recognize that…

    games like these also make me question DDs maturity. i appreciate the intensity he played with (offensively at least), but its not lost on me how hes essentially become rudy2.0

    you’d hope he would recognize after a bunch of last minute losses that maybe he shouldnt opt for the rucker park 1 on 1 pickup iso. i think demar gets off the hook a bunch with shooting mediocre when the team wins (lots of 16 shot 17 point type nights). but even his lack of understanding that he has next to zero 3 point stroke is maddening. you gotta take em to make em, but even after demar hits one, which is his statistical ceiling, he’ll make sure to jack up another 3-4 in the same game, to bring his average back to the 30% clip hes been shooting this year. its called forcing up shots, and demar does plenty of it, and he could stand to recognize that a bit more (granted hes come light years from where he used to be, and now even passes out of double teams, which didnt use to happen at all)

    while im at it, amir shot 1/3 from the free throw line, in a 2 point loss. the loss aint on him, but for 7 mil, itd be real nice to have a guy who could put up more than 5 points a game when hes not facing orlando, milwaukee or the other flonky teams he pads his stats on.

    i think itd be great if masai could unload amirs contract for a guy like monroe (who wouldnt have gotten bullied tonight), not cuz i dont love amir, hes a character guy, but it would make it easier to re-sign lowry (who is more than just a character guy) and 2pat and have some room to spare.

    • James Slim

      the bulls are far from struggling, four straight Ws and Thibs guaranteed coach of the month. Well-balanced team, even without Rose and Deng

      • durantula

        the bulls looked like they were firing on all cylinders to you? i remember being relieved at the end of the first that the raps were only down 7. their offense is anemic. scoring 100 points on the bulls is as good as a w. i checked the last couple weeks of games, bulls have knocked off some decent times, but they’re not playing other-worldly ball either. talent wise its a team the raps should have handled easily…but alas, it takes more than just throwing your 2 tallest big men blindly into the game…..

  • morgan c

    “On the second night of a back-to-back, you really couldn’t ask for that
    level of intensity and effort. The Raptors can hold their heads up after
    that one.”

    Really? Well, I for one, blatantly disagree. Our first half defense was among the worst it’s been the entire season. Wide open conversions in the paint with zero defense? An inability to stick with a high school cut? CONSISTENTLY getting out positioned and out efforted for rebounds? And we should be proud?

    Bro, it’s takes like that that will keep this team tredding water as it has done since its inception. We want to be the third seed in the east? If that’s the case, then this game was unacceptable. We were fucked in the ass by a shit team. Sorry, but that’s what happened. Our defense was atrocious, and the Bulls played harder than us. Totally embarrassing effort.

    • James Slim

      fourth would be better – play indiana instead of miami

  • ih8vasquez

    I never understood what everyone sees in Jonas we have no big men right now, Demar is the only reason we were even close

    • asifyouknow

      The guy is 21 years old if you are building he needs to play, there are no big man out there that can move like he can, in a few year he will be bigger and stronger and learn more…Look Vasquez hater if you don’t see the talent.. well maybe you should do hockey…lol

  • Jordan

    Anyone else realize we just played the Denver and Portland games again? One game where we go ice cold (stuck at 99 points) to end the game and win, while the other we trail double-digits the whole time only to comeback and lose on a last second possession where DeMar doesn’t even get a shot off (Portland he turned it over and tonight his shot got blocked instantly)

  • jakdripr

    “On the second night of a back-to-back, you really couldn’t ask for that level of intensity and effort.” I appreciate the attempt at positive thinking but no. The raps just didn’t bring it tonight, our sophomores disappointed(yet again), 2pat really wasn’t delivering, and not only was lowry a non factor for pretty much the entire game he also had a stretch in the 3rd where he was acting all immature, constantly nagging the refs and just not focusing.

    But since we’re a young team I expected this to happen at some point and I’d rather it happened against the bulls than cleveland or orlando. Lets just hope this loss fires them up for their next few games.

  • Steverino

    Sure, he had every right. But just because you have the right, doesn’t mean you have to exercise it. You get it to the open man. Period.

  • patrick

    we need a big defensive center for biggies like noah and boozer. we have psycho t already but JV is young and chuck hayes is just a veteran (not just because he has experience and smarts). GET A CENTER MASAI!!! we dont need rondo or faried, because we have lowry and patterson already.. we just need an anti lebron and anti noah, and we have a shot at the east finals!!

  • Roarque

    Damn but you have to love the way Tom Thibodeau coaches. The Bulls will be a handful for anyone in the playoffs and the Raps better get used to this style of roundball or it’s going to be four and out come playoff time.
    Imagine the Raps losing Kyle and Amir and still being able to play D like these Bulls can. Time to get back to the practice court Dwane.

  • Phat AlberG

    Derozan has no handles, so why would Casey put him in a one & one situation. Have the guy coming of the screens or call for pick & roll, I just don’t get Casey.

  • AnthonyF

    Trying not to be tough on Demar, but this is a recurring story. If it was not for Minnesota and their horrendous record in close games, Toronto is next in line. They were behind the entire game and yep didn’t deserve to win, but boy would have been nice for a change.

    Demar burned a time out with a minute to go and a chance to tie and then airballed immediately after on the same call as the last play. He has to drive and force a foul or come off a pick.

    When Chicago called the timeout with 1 second left on the 24 second, Casey should have had the last play called and then we still have the time out down by two and could advance to midcourt. When you call a timeout, the defense get’s a chance to set up and there were 11 seconds left.

    Yep we hit some shots early in the season to get to OT and then proceed to lose.

    So let’s review the close games coming down to last shot…. Losses to PortlandX2, Houston, CharlotteX3, Miami, Brooklyn & Chicago. Wins Dallas & Brooklyn. 2-9 is not too good…….

  • DryDry

    ISO Joe play for the last shot? No screens? What a horrible decision and a waste of an opportunity.

  • why

    Obviously a tough loss for The Raps however, as a basketball fan, I have always liked the way Tibs Bulls teams play (for those of you from The Maritimes and who are CIS fans they play like Dave Nutbrown’s Acadia university teams from the 1980’s and 1990’s – physical hard nosed defense and physical high percentage offense) and Noah has always been one of my favorite players. If last nigght was any indication, DJ Augstyn’s renisance is in large part to playing with Noah – Noah is the de facto point guard for the Bulls – DJ doesn’t have to worry a great deal about setting up others.

  • truth be told

    “Learning to win”? Do I dare ask what you are referring to?lol

    Or is that just another one of those sports cliches to refer to when there is nothing relevant to say?

  • Quest

    i know people want to rip demar, but he did carry us for stretches in the game. However those were in the flow of the offence and rarely on hero ball. if anything a screen with amir/ppatt would have been good as demar has become a better facilitator in that situation recently.
    also, you don’t necessarily want to go 1 on 1 with chicago’s best wing defender, so i think lowry should have run a pick n roll with amir to see if we could get a mismatch or an open shot.

  • No

    wow, too much hate on derozan.
    he didn’t finish the play correct, but this game was lost in the first 3 quarters not on the last play, and without him this game would have been a loss period

  • The Truth

    WOW – I see a lot of Demar Derozan hate. The real hate should be pointed at our starting center. JV sucked HARD! He better get his act together. I’m not impressed at all with his play. Please stop comparing him to Roy Hibbert or Joakim Noah! He is currently trash compared to those guys. He has a lot of work to do!

  • http://batman-news.com Phil A

    I think the issue with the Raptor’s last possession was that Derozan was matched up against arguably the best perimeter defender in Butler. Running an isolation play under those circumstances will not give your team the best odds of scoring. I don’t normally have an issue with running an isolation with Derozan but not with this match up.