I need a smoke after that one.


Washington Wizards 134 Final

Recap | Box Score

129 Toronto Raptors
Amir Johnson, PF Shot Chart 43 MIN | 5-10 FG | 5-8 FT | 9 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 2 BLK | 1 TO | 16 PTS | +9Fouled out on a really chintzy call, and it’s a shame, because he was great when he played. Could have done more to keep Gortat and the Wizards’ front-line off the glass, but he tweaked his ankle and fought through it. He played his heart out and couldn’t last to affect the game’s last two overtime periods. Pity.

Terrence Ross, SF Shot Chart 16 MIN | 3-5 FG | 2-2 FT | 2 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 11 PTS | +7Had it booming something vicious, y’know. Bradley Beal lost him around screens and Trey Rosay (it’s happening, deal with it) made hay in the left corner. He tweaked his ankle pretty bad (running theme) and had to leave the game after the first half.

Jonas Valanciunas, C Shot Chart 29 MIN | 3-9 FG | 1-1 FT | 10 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 7 PTS | -14I don’t want to hear comments like “what about his 10 boards”, or “oh he’s just 21!” because the honest to goodness truth is that outside of a few minutes in the first quarter, Jonas Valanciunas was absolutely brutal. He got benched for his play and rightly so. He only came back into the game out of necessity, and got blocked/dunked on by Gortat a total of four times in 2OT. He also decided to slam home a shot that was already going in, which resulted in offensive cylinder interference. I’m sure he will bounce back but he was terrible.

Kyle Lowry, PG Shot Chart 54 MIN | 6-18 FG | 5-7 FT | 9 REB | 10 AST | 3 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 18 PTS | -2So much heart. Forget his two missed game-winning attempts (one of them almost went down), but he badly sprained his ankle tonight and he still played through most of the overtime periods before being chided with a call and fouling out. He grabbed 3 offensive rebounds in a squeaky tight set of overtime periods. Kyle Lowry over everything, man. B for performance, A++++ for heart.

DeMar DeRozan, SG Shot Chart 57 MIN | 11-23 FG | 12-14 FT | 4 REB | 6 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 4 TO | 34 PTS | -4Turned it on in the third OT and really carried the Raptors for stretches, but once Lowry fouled out, nobody could check Wall and they lost. Derozan was frustratingly passive in regular time, but when everyone else was tired in overtime, Demar attacked the basket, which is pretty amazing for someone who played a game-high 57 minutes.

Tyler Hansbrough, PF Shot Chart 13 MIN | 0-0 FG | 2-4 FT | 4 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 2 PTS | 0For some reason Dwane Casey didn’t want to throw him in for defense and rebounding, because those are the only two things he can do. Missed two key free-throws in 3OT.

Patrick Patterson, PF Shot Chart 23 MIN | 2-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 0 AST | 2 STL | 2 BLK | 1 TO | 5 PTS | +9Was in early foul trouble. Played horribly for most of the game, including gift-wrapping an and-one to Chris Singleton near the end of the third. Turned it around in the fourth and OT but he too fouled out.

Chuck Hayes, PF Shot Chart 0 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | 0He played.

John Salmons, SF Shot Chart 34 MIN | 3-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 5 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 7 PTS | -20If Ross is out for a significant portion of time, this man might enter the starting lineup, and unless he’s fully rested (like, no back to backs, and he slept really well), he’s going to be a big minus. Didn’t do anything on defense and his offense was bricktastic. No lift on his jumper. Hey, I’m not knocking the dude, he’s just really old.

Landry Fields, SF Shot Chart 1 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | -4He also played.

Steve Novak, SF Shot Chart 5 MIN | 1-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 3 PTS | -6Dwane Casey played him in rare offense-defense type platoons, but didn’t run any plays for him. Weird playcall.

Greivis Vasquez, PG Shot Chart 39 MIN | 11-19 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 8 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 6 TO | 26 PTS | 0YOLO VASQUEZ FOREVER. YOLO VASQUEZ FOREVER. As if you know he didn’t have this in him, because he proved the doubters wrong for one night. The only reason he’s not getting any higher of a grade is because 37-year old Andre Miller was blowing by him consistently, but his scoring and playmaking was huge. He wore down in overtime and committed some key turnovers. Got killed by John Wall.

Nando de Colo, PG Shot Chart 0 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | 0Nah, I’m serious. He played too.

Dwane Casey
Questionable choices at times. For example, with a chance to win it in regulation, he trots out Chuck Hayes for the final possession. Why? He had his good moments too, like putting Novak in for offense-defense switches, and he had to contend with 3OT’s and four missing players. He did what he could.

Five Things We Saw

  1. I hate to keep ragging on Jonas, but Gortat punished him every single time on the screen-and-roll. It wasn’t even close at times. Gortat had a monster game, reeling off 31 points and 12 rebounds by just feasting on the Raptors’ lack of size in the front-court. He connected with John Wall on multiple trips down the floor and he looked like Amar’e Stoudemire in his prime.
  2. If Ross is out for an extended amount of time, Greivis Vasquez looks like the favorite to slide into the starting lineup. Casey likes having three ball-handlers on at the same time, and the 2PG lineup with Vasquez and Lowry keyed the Raptors’ comeback. Obviously we can’t expect games like tonight to repeat itself, nor can we ever expect Vasquez to play passable defense, but he does facilitate plays, and when his shot is falling he’s a threat from deep. Also, new nickname for Greivis: “YOLO Vasquez”
  3. Andre Miller was great in his limited minutes. The Wizards’ bench has been a barren wasteland all season long — which is presumably why they traded for Miller — but they might have just unearthed a pharaoh in the ancient sarcophagus. Miller was up to all his wily veteran tricks, including his patented post-ups. Watch out for Andre 3000 because Outkast is back (but actually, they are and I’m so excited)
  4. We chide the refs a lot on this blog, but I need to commend them for a good job tonight. Yes, they called some very questionable fouls that led to Lowry and Patterson fouling out, and they were a long way from perfect, but they took the time to look at the replays in overtime(s), and they made the right calls upon review. I’m giving them thumbs up for progress.
  5. Sign me up for a playoff series between these two teams.
  • KingRaptors

    This game exposed the Raptors need a closer…. That’s a piece they’re missing! They need that dude that can close these games out for them!

    • Lyme

      Had they played defense, Derozan would have closed it. What they needed was a stopper—Ross.

      • Chewwy No Matthew

        That was the key loss. Ross has played great defence, has young legs and is our best 3 point shooter. Very big loss in this game

    • daniel

      What are you talking about? Derozan got to the line a bunch in the OTs. We lost four rotation guys and had nobody to stop Wall’s penetration. Losing Ross was significant and will continue to be if he’s out longer.

      • asifyouknow

        What is the word on Ross

    • asifyouknow

      You might be right but man if played sports you know what an overtime does to you body specially if you play hard….this guys were running on guts…dead tired…

    • Casey Sherman

      Not this guy!

    • webfeatmm

      I really think we need a strong defensive center more than a closer. We’ve seen a few games where guys like Gortat, Griffin, Cousins, etc. have their way in the paint because the Raptors’ front court is out muscled.

  • RaptorsKOR

    What has happened to JV? Someone please slap him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Anyway good game Raptors even though we were short handed and refs made lot of calls that were more favourable to Wizards!

    • Chewwy No Matthew

      JV doesn’t box out so one big reason for a lot of Washington getting offensive rebounds. Looks lost on pick and roll and lost on offence. Complete brain fart on basket interference. I’m still trying to figure out what he was thinking.

      • JRedmond14

        Neither Amir or JV play with enough physicality at times for me and it shows against teams like this with big bulky guys like Booker and Nene (even though he was out)

        • Ghotte

          Amir was battling according to my eyes. Not many times he was out-worked or just clean beaten from what I saw.

        • Jose

          Agree. The lack of true inside presence will become an issue for this team down the road. Both Amir and Jonas are pushed around when facing bigger guys. Amir is definitely hustling more than Jonas, but it is hard for him to go against much heavier guys. As for Jonas “untouchable” hopefully he “develops” in a year or two — but he will be major liability come playoff time.

      • Minks77

        Yeah JV looked awful tonight. Worst game in a long time.

    • webfeatmm

      In a pick and roll against Wall/Gortat, Casey’s defensive scheme is to switch the back defender to the point man. This resulted in wide open Gortat 80% of the time. I dunno if it’s 100% JV’s fault in this scenario. I think that as soon as JV switches, you gotta have another big cover Gortat, but Casey was playing small ball, and often it would be just Salmons being out-bigged.

      • Ghotte

        The back defender is supposed to come up and hedge to allow the initial defender time to readjust. They rarely just switch. Pretty basic strategy used by every team.

        • vanlivin

          every team but jay triano raptors

  • Chewwy No Matthew

    JV- Totally agree with the comments made by William Lou. He was awful. For some reason he doesn’t put a body on anybody when shots are going up so the rebound total is misleading. Just a plain stupid play in OT on the cylinder interference. I agree, I’m not seeing it with JV.

    • webfeatmm

      I think JV loses the position battle because he’s still not sure where he should go, and he is a bit slow because of the bulk he added over the summer. He’s still only 21 – he’ll get better.

      • asifyouknow

        Just a kid will get better but for the playoff run you need some inside help

        • Chewwy No Matthew

          It’s funny how the “he’s young” excuses are brought up for JV. Andre Drummond is in his second year in the NBA, just like JV yet is third in the league in rebounding. JV makes the same mistakes like rebounding with one hand, not putting a body on somebody when a shot is up, bringing the ball down. Those are mistakes that should be corrected quickly, not with a few more years of experience. Same with the constant whining and bitching when he get’s called for fouls. Refs will never give him anything if he keeps doing that.

          • FREEJV

            JV schooled Drummond and Check Detroits record.

            • FLUXLAND

              So Detroit’s record is due to his play? That’s your argument?

              JV had 11 rebounds and Andre had 16…schooled, really? Funny stuff.

              • FREEJV

                who won the game bud? and how many times did drummond jump on JVa pump fakes L.O.L

                • FLUXLAND

                  My bad, I thought there was a JV/Drummond discussion going on.

                  I missed the part in your logic where Raptors winning = JV schooled Drummond. Way to move the goalposts to suit your argument, bud.

                  While we are here… JV has 18 double doubles this year, Andre has 42. Clearly, JV is the teacher and Andre is the student.

                • FREEJV

                  he schooled him when they played , but good job Drummond im sure 9th place feels nice.

                • FLUXLAND

                  Meh, 2 successful pump fakes in ONE game (where he got out-rebounded) and the team result/standings = JV > AD? Going to have to see Professor V dish out a few more lessons, before I believe that.

            • Donfiasko

              Andre Drummond is and will always be better than JV. Valanciunas will be lucky to reach Gortat’s lofty heights.

          • consmap

            Drummond has godly athleticism that he’s able to just coast off of without learning many skills. That’s pretty much why he’s such an effective player.
            Give him JV’s “athleticism” and his effectiveness will be shut down for the most part.

            • Guest

              Amare used to look a lot like Drummond. Then he knees gt hurt and he can;t jump forty feet in the air. Now he’s awful. So as beastly as Drummond truly is, he’s a small injury away from not jumping over everyone to just rebound and dunk the ball.

              As for JV, I can;t even make my mind up anymore. He will continue to make these mistakes until he;s allowed more time to learn to play through them…. but he has such egregious eff ups at times that I don;’t blame Casey half the time for sitting him. When he came in after Amir fouled out, he looked so bad. He came up t set a screen on Vazquez, slipped the screen and rolled straight to the hoop while Vazquez was getting double teamed 35 feet from the bucket, planted in the MIDDLE OF THE KEY like 40 feet from Vaz, then the entry pass was stolen. Next play was when Chuck got he call, because he set a way better screen and was in the right place. Such a terrible choice by JV, he’s fucking lost.

              That being said… I think I still believe. 7 footers with touch don;’t come along often.

              • Steve

                He’s worst then Andrea was…

      • asifyouknow

        webfeatmm you are right on , I think most fans here want to win a championship now rather than building one in about 3 years….JV will be a very good center, maybe a good teaching coach would help..

  • Chewwy No Matthew

    Vasquez game was brutal in overtime. Too many turnovers and bad shot selection. His 3 pointer was a terrible decision that just happened to go in. Watch the other Raptors reaction as he is hoisting this bad shot.

    • JRedmond14

      No overtime without Vasquez though. If you want to rip some in OT it should be Salmons. I’m not going to rip him though because he is too old to play those minutes. Corner camped on offense and got blown by by Webster quite a bit

      • Chewwy No Matthew

        The decision making by Vaquez in overtime was my big issue.

        • JRedmond14

          Agreed he should have gotten it to Derozan in 3OT and those turnovers sealed us but he did step up to the plate when Ross went down which was nice to see

        • asifyouknow

          My issue was also that there is no inside game in Toronto,,,This game was lost a long time before the ot..It was lost in the second quarter…

          • Chewwy No Matthew

            Are you serious? How could the game be lost in the second quarter when it went to overtime? It’s a whole new ballgame at that point and there were 3 overtime sessions. There are a variety of reasons for the loss.

            • asifyouknow

              Chewwy I could tell you about the big swing from first period to the end of second the quarter and tell you why the game might of not ever got to overtime but it would take too many numbers and it won’t convince you anyway so I’ll go with you…lol

          • Guest

            Lol it’s like we had much of an inside game the last three times against them…

            • Guest

              Not*

    • asifyouknow

      Oh my God are you serious …it went in …shots go in or go out ,,,lol

      • Chewwy No Matthew

        That’s not the point. It’s about decision making and Vasquez was terrible in overtime. Just because the shot went in doesn’t make it a good decision.

  • Adriiian

    Like I said, the mistake was going with JV over Hansbrough. Why not go with proven experience and hustle? Leo said they picked size. Ok.

    There’s like 14 coaches on this fucking team, and every Raps fan is blaming it on JV, which is fine but he shouldn’t have been out there, and I think it was Casey’s mistake to go to him first instead of Hansbrough.

  • or nah?

    Nobody hates Vasquez more than me.

    • De Colo

      So you’re the idiot? Ok, thanks for calling yourself out

    • asifyouknow

      God bless you too…You not alone he was the most hated man in North Carolina and in Duke land…lol

  • Chewwy No Matthew

    In my opinion, Casey lost this game.
    Took too long to put Hansborough in, electing to go with Jonus, who did not play well and looks lost on offence.
    Not sure about why he puts in Hayes when we need a basket to win the game.
    Terrible play calling out of timeouts AGAIN!
    Bad coaching job. Vasquez bringing the ball up instead of Kyle Lowry was not smart either

    • Adriiian

      I don’t like Vasquez as a player, but he played well tonight, however, he did make some key mistakes, especially charging in when DeMar was running a few feet behind him on his right.

      All in all, I think it would be fair to say that Vasquez gives back a lot of what he takes.

      • De Colo

        Nobody is perfect, the step in at the last second and taking a charge is a stupid rule anyway, why should it be a charge at Vasquez? He was completely in control

        • Adriiian

          Control or not, there were a few Wizards in front of him, and he shouldn’t have attempted that when he had DeRozan on the wing. That’s all I’m saying.

      • Chewwy No Matthew

        That was a huge play. I liked a lot of Vasquez’s game but Miller treated him like a bitch and the decisions in overtime were brutal. Even the 3 pointer he made was a stupid decision.

        • asifyouknow

          Watch the replay, Wiz guard abused EVERYBODY..Please!..Comment with some facts is all I’m saying, you just talk. I watch the replay a couple of times and note things…Everybody got beat except Ross ..Please be serious and fair if you going to pound on players.

      • asifyouknow

        Yea Adriiian the guy is a bum ..release him…it wont cost Toronto anything because he will be picked up right away…..

        • Adriiian

          I agree. If I was MU I wouldn’t sign him.

        • asifyouknow

          sarcasm. You do understand I’m a big Vaz fan….lol…lol… Look enjoy he only be here one year ..He will be playing for D’Antoni or Memphis… so chill, last night without Vaz you would of been 15 down..just saying,,,take your hate glasses off…lol..
          If you are a basketball guy or gall you would understand that there is plenty of blame to go around.

    • JRedmond14

      I might be wrong but the reason he went with Hayes was because of the review. If it had gone Washington ball, I’m not sure he would have been able to sub and then he would’ve had Novak guarding Gortat. Just a guess though

    • daniel

      How did Vasquez bringing the ball up have any negative impact for the Raptors?

      • asifyouknow

        Daniel sometimes is best to move on …lol and talk to folks that make sense…lol

        • Chewwy No Matthew

          Wow, I guess you are Mr or Mrs know it all. Give me a break!

          • asifyouknow

            No …al asifyouknow is my name.. There is a reason why I chose that as my blogging name. I got tired of listening to people who have no clue what they’re talking about and who don’t do fact checking before commenting.
            On this board my friend you are number one in that category.
            Nothing personal just the facts.

            • Guest

              Your b-ball cred went out the window for me when you claimed out backup PG NEEDED to be taking 10 plus shots every game. I like Vaz a good bit. A little too emotional of a player to be a starter on a winning team for me. Crazy good spurts (like tonight for the most part), but then crazy decisions leading to turnovers at inopportune moments (which ain’t winning b-ball). Great backup though. Your classes are the rosiest though bai. No backup PG should talk 10 plus shots on a team that wants to win.

              • asifyouknow

                Fair enough..The good thing for Toronto is that you nor I are the coach….lol..lol

                • Guest

                  Haha fair enough indeed. That comment I made was admittedly a little spiteful, as I tend to get fed up with the nonsense I see spewed on here for the most part by people who clearly don’t get b-ball (aside from what PER tells them). My bad. And good rebuttal. Though I still plan on being an NBA head coach someday.

      • Chewwy No Matthew

        He committed big turnovers from that position. Lowry has 4 less turnovers in 15 minutes more playing time. Lowry is quicker off the dribble and Vasquez had difficulties with the pressure.

    • caccia

      Hansbrough was only out there for 13 minutes, even though the team mounted a comeback the the three minutes he played at the end of the third. Then nothing until the end of the second OT, when he had that great play on Beal (ball went in but too late). All the while, Gortat is destroying us inside. Tyler finally got Gortat to foul out in the third overtime, but missed the free throws.

      There were some stupid lineups and rotations all game long from the coach. You don’t play your starters into the ground at this point in the season. Save it for the playoffs. Amir, Kyle, DeMar all played their hearts out but the coach never gave them a break. My hands were shaking during the three OT periods.

    • Guest

      Buddy. I said this above. He brought in Hayes to set a SCREEN. Because the play JUST BEFORE JV had some non-sensicle flash to the basket leaving Vaz trapped 40 feet from the bucket, which ended in a turnover. Hence Hayes, as there was likely not enough time on the clock (2.7 I believe) to get a good look AND offensive put back, so the hilarity of a 6-6 centre was justified.

      • asifyouknow

        Guest person you area basketball guy…lots of folks would of not understand that…good comment

  • Bloom

    Man that game was a headache.

  • Quest

    losing ross really hurt us. he had 11 at the half and was playing great d. we would have won this in regulation if he had stayed in…

  • DXNNYVΣGΛ

    We need depth, that’s the only reason Washington beat us. Especially at the 2, and a legit defending 7 footer. Still don’t understand why we didn’t acquire these at the deadline…. JV has been worrying me as of late. It’s like he made the money then gave up… Demar got slapped on the head by Ariza and the foul was not called smh. All in all, I’m not mad that we lost this game. We need more like this for playoff experience. But PLEASE, PICK UP A 7 FOOTER FROM FREE AGENCY. PLEASE.

    • JRedmond14

      Daniel Orton anybody?

  • doncity

    we gotta look at bringing in Ron Artest, I’m saying…

    • JRedmond14

      Agreed. One man short on the wing, especially when Salmons legs are tired. Don’t need offense just defense

      • Lyme

        Pretty sure this was a joke. Artest can no longer play offense or defense.

        • doncity
          • JRedmond14

            haha you’re a tool bud. He might not be the stopper he once was but he is still a very good defensive player

            • doncity

              I agree – he’s still in great shape, he barely played this year and at 34 he’s not over the hill at all. This is a proven clutch performer who could teach the young guys a lot about what it takes – a bit like Oakley did. I bet he’d become a fan favorite pretty fast… but if not it’s low risk, just cut him…

            • Minks77

              Not this year he’s not. He’s really slow and just reaches

            • Steverino

              Still a very good defensive player you say? He wasn’t that even last season when he was playing more minutes.

        • FREEJV

          who needs him to play defense. we just need him to get under peoples skin. imagine him and hansbrough in that second unit. #doubletrouble

    • asifyouknow

      I agree 100 %

    • RaptorsKOR

      lol Ron Artest sounds very old now. It’s Metta World Peace!! MWP!

      • doncity

        just doing him a favor – but if he signs I’ll def get a Raps World Peace t-shirt

    • moe

      dont think he knows where toronto is…

      • doncity

        he knows exactly where Toronto is – it’s the city where he inspired that hipster art show a couple years ago – research, people!

    • FREEJV

      or butler

    • Steverino

      The guy is toast. Although as much as I dislike him, I gotta admit it would be fun to see everyone here turning on him.

      • doncity

        we’re talking about a late-season rental for the playoff push – I’m assuming only lunatics are still hoping we tank the year at this point. So if we’re going for it, how many other guys of Artest’s caliber are still available? Brooklyn’s already thugging it up with Collins and we all agree we need some toughness and grit on the wings. No one’s looking for Artest to score 20 a night or win defensive player of the year. Admit it, it makes sense if he wants to sign here.

  • FREEJV

    Dwane Casey lost this game for us with his inability to draw end of game plays.i forgot when it was but when chuck hayes came in i knew it wasnt gonna go well.

    • DDayLewis

      The play he drew up got Lowry a layup at the rim that barely bounced out.

      • FREEJV

        *contested floater

    • JRedmond14

      Those Lowry layups could have gone either way…

      • FREEJV

        *contested floater .

        • JRedmond14

          Don’t expect a wide open layup with 2.7 seconds left on the clock

          • FREEJV

            see: Bradley beal, John wall …….

      • Adriiian

        Man, I thought he should have just pulled up and taken a shot from mid range. More entertaining too,…

        • FREEJV

          i thought he was gonna do that too but for some reason he thought a contested floater over a 7 footer would be easier

        • Nilanka15

          With a throbbing ankle, stopping on a dime for the pullup jumper is easier said than done.

    • daniel

      How can anybody blame Casey for this loss??? Lowry had a few good looks that just didn’t go in. Blame the defensive rebounding and pick-and-roll defense (cough cough, Jonas).

      • FREEJV

        Jonas wasnt in for 90% of the second half/overtime stupid excuse …….

        • Aaron

          Jonas doesn’t play one second of this game they win it. simple. He looks more lost then Darco Milicic.

          • FREEJV

            it was tied after the 2nd Ot. he didnt play in the 3rd OT. who won the game again? #dumb

    • asifyouknow

      My friend read my post on the game. Agree with you all the way …Glad I’m not the only one who sees that…Thank you…lol

    • Ghotte

      And Hayes was brought in to set a solid pick not take a shot…maybe coach didn’t trust JV to even do that properly.

    • Guest

      Hayes was brought in immediately after Jonas had just completely effed everything up the play before setting the worst “screen” I’ve ever seen and then causing a turnover. That is the one play that sticks out in my mind from the whole game. I was happy to see Hayes there to set a real screen.

  • asifyouknow

    This is the kind of game that might cost Toronto a few games next week, they will have dead legs for awhile.
    Once Lowry foul out the Wiz only had Vazquez to worry about setting up plays I knew right away this was going to be trouble
    Playoff type of game, now they have lost two tight games vs good teams like Chicago and Wiz that is not looking good.
    I’m not a coach but I’m a 50 year fan of the game , Casey crunch time calls are, well lets just say not up to a coach of the year candidate.
    Vasquez looked dead tired and lost two important possession, so it pains me to say “cono vale nos jodistes” that’s Spanish look it up (not in dictionary) he messed up big time tonight but he did have a good game.
    The good thing is that this guy is healthy and is finding his rhythm and now you got two starting type PG.
    Lets be honest his game was lost a lot earlier then that, THIS INSIDE GAME IS TERRIBLE, if I were the Raptors brass I would wake up tomorrow at 4 am and go find me some inside help.
    We can all pick are goats of the game and play the blame game but this interior is the worse, take a close look at the charts.
    Toronto needs some help inside now!!!!

    Toronto get inside help now.

    • DDayLewis

      I hope you got my shoutout in the blurb for Vasquez

      • asifyouknow

        lol I got that…..Thanks ….He had a good game but it could of been great without the TO at crunch time, but hey lots of blame to go around I guess…Hope to God Ross is ok

        • DDayLewis

          Tonight is your night. You backed YOLO all this time, and he’s finally come thru. Go get youse some lobsters and shrimp!

          (I might have thrown a couple of Drake references in there)

          • asifyouknow

            lol…..going to bed after a glass of Sangria….

    • Jose

      Yup. The lack of inside presence is the problem, agree. Losing to Chicago and Wizards are the best illustration for it. As for Vasquez — I don’t see him as a starting caliber point guard. Just too slow and too predictable IMO.

  • Lyme

    The Toronto beat reporters need to get off their asses and figure out what the hell is wrong with JV.

    • De Colo

      He’s playing like a pansy ass, plain and simple, he doesn’t box out, he gets out muscled by everyone, he doesn’t make good decisions, he’s not tough with the ball, he telegraphs everything he does. The bottom line is, if Jonas doesn’t want to be on this team then find someone to replace him and move on. All these people are blaming Casey for the loss but I blame JV for the loss because he was repeatedly out rebounded and dunked on whenever he was in.

      • Steverino

        He doesn’t want to be on this team? What the hell are you talking about? He’s just struggling. Get a grip.

        • De Colo

          You keep being an apologist while everyone else is living in reality. If you are ok with mediocre to terrible play from your starting center, then good for you. Jonas can be good, but he has been getting destroyed by any center with above average skill this season and that is fact.

          • FREEJV

            Didnt he go head to head with Tim Duncan whos a hall of famer ……. #anyways

      • Nilanka15

        There’s no doubt he’s playing terrible lately, but how do you conclude that he doesn’t want to be on this team?

    • Steverino

      Yes, let’s get on those lazy beat reporters. It’s all their fault.

  • gizzly73

    Great game for 52 minutes then entertainment value absolutely destroyed by timeouts and reviews. I turned it off in ot3. Why does a second ot have to be 5 min with 6 allowed timeouts 3 per team. WTF happened to JV? Is he overrated, as I’ve said before, or what? A # 5 pick had his lunch eaten by a # 57 pick Give me a break. And btw this is his 3rd yr as a pro.
    Casey has little confidence in him, which was obvious by his pt in ot

    • Steverino

      Second year as a pro, unless you’re willing to admit European leagues are as good as the NBA. Also, it doesn’t matter where a player was chosen. That’s ancient history. All that matters is how they produce. You can’t judge him any more harshly than any other player. Which is to say, go ahead and judge him harshly, but he had no control where he was picked, so that part is irrelevant.

      • gizzly73

        Pro ball is pro ball. Not being harsh just saying he is/was overrated. Will be a decent rotation player but not an all-star. Expectations were way too high.

  • FREEJV

    i still dont understand why we dont run plays for Novak…… hes out there for his offence but he has no plays called for him ….

  • turtlefin

    Jonas seems to be a net negative on both ends of the floor. He also loses every 50/50 ball and no one fears his shotblocking. I cringed every time he was on the floor in OT.

  • Ellis

    Definitely missed having Ross out there. Wall just had his way all game. Also have to say I love watching Ross play, one of the smoothest players in the nba right now in my opinion, and watching his development this year has been so enjoyable.

    I really couldn’t understand how Gortat killed us that badly, although getting beat inside is a disturbing trend that’s been developing. Should’ve focused on Hansbrough taking it to Gortat earlier, he virtually always draws a foul when he gets it in the post.

    Very depressed about JV recently. No post game whatsoever, and gets beat on the glass and that OT cylinder decision was a killer. Yes he’s young but can he please just show some positive results in any facet of the game? If he continues to play this poorly I think making it past the first round playoffs will be very difficult.

  • Haim not Feldman

    Though it was disappointing, it was still a great game by the Raps. It’s hard to sweep a season series whether the other team is a contender or sux ballz. The Raps are definitely a legitimate playoff team and contender for the finals. Notice how most contenders have two all-star caliber players: OKC Durant & Westbrook, Spurs Duncan and Parker, Heat James & Wade. The Raps have DeRozan and …. oh wait.

    • FREEJV

      you forgot Lowry

      • Haim not Feldman

        True, Lowry should’ve been an all star this year, but the Raps need an impact player in the front court. If they had Ross and Lowry in the backcourt, DeRozan and that impact PF, you could put the stiff of the day at center and they’d still win most of their games.

    • What the

      no Batman

  • daniel

    Plain and simple: Wall and Gortat beat us tonight. Losing Ross hurt the pick-and-roll defense and having Jonas on the floor ever is a huge negative.

  • FREEJV

    Salmons is so brick and hes out there for his defense but guys were blowing by him 24/7. Should ve given some minutes to de colo. Casey put him in with 20 secs left lol wtf

  • Aaron

    I hate Big V. If he is our hope for the future then please just tank for a good Big after this year. Honest to god he has no heart. Please dont say oh look at the 10 boards. Guess what? 7 of them were off of free throw misses. Your telling me psyhco t wouldnt have gotten the same rebounds? If things dont go his way he sulks and destroys the team. Trade this baby this summer for a big who actually wants to win. So sick of seeing him sulk after something and not trying the next play. He is the reason we lost this game. Yes Big V is. Why? Because if all his mins went to Psyhco T they win.

    • Steverino

      Yes, because Psycho T also got lots of minutes in Indiana… Oh wait. Maybe he plays the amount he’s supposed to play. JV sucked, tis true, but I hardly see him sulking. He’s just not playing very well. Man, someone said here the other day his ceiling is Gortat, and I said, “Great!” Not as a knock on either player. People just don’t think much of Gortat because he’s a white Euro, but the guy is a solid pro. We’d be lucky to have JV develop into him.

      • Aaron

        Honestly we would be lucky if JV developed into anything more then a backup C. He does nothing above average except shoot FT at a decent rate

  • jakdripr

    What’s going on with JV? He’s been playing like crap for a few weeks now and hasn’t been consistent this entire year. Although I feel all our bigs as a whole need to be held accountable for the awful defensive rebounding job they brought to this game. It’s fitting that the game went into OT on a gortat putback because that killed us all bloody night. They’d better shape up for GS, otherwise we’ll be looking at a 2 game losing streak.

  • rapierraptor

    Don’t get me wrong, Jonas needs to play better. BUT JV playing like crap in part because Casey makes it clear that he has zero faith in him when it counts. Criticism on basket interference unfair as it was clearly an alley oop attempt that accidentally went in. Also caught the ball with only a second left to shoot on one of the blocked shots.

    • doncity

      this is the NBA, not nursery school. I’m not hating on JV because this is only his second full season, but it’s not Casey’s job to babysit him especially when we’re making a playoff push. Casey is coaching for a contract too. JV looks out of shape to me, to be honest. Is he taking his conditioning seriously enough? I don’t know.

      • rapierraptor

        Fair enough but Raptors gave up 80!!!! points in the paint tonight and Jonas was only on the floor for 29 of those 63 minutes. Also he wasn’t out there when nobody put a body on Gortat for an easy putback to send it into OT. I agree he looked weirdly winded and sluggish.

  • Josh

    If only we had an overpaid, high volume shooting, box score hating, laser eye surgery needing 6’8 small forward to shoot a fadeaway long 2 in the clutch, this game might’ve ended in a win for us. Alas, he is no more…

    Don’t worry, I slap my wrist and pray to the basketball gods for forgiveness any split second that I wished that he was back on our team.

    Tough loss, but there’s no denying the heart while undermanned. Respect fellas.

    • Tanks-a-lot

      still not worth the price tag

  • Tanks-a-lot

    “He also decided to slam home a shot that was already going in, which resulted in offensive cylinder interference.”

    fuck that greasy floater selfish shit

  • Truth

    Casey’s fault for putting in JV who hadn’t played D all game in for Amir when he fouled out. Should have been Phsyco T.
    Casey is losing this team games, the team’s talent (or possibility of real talent) has outgrown his ability as a head coach in the NBA. We get out coached 80% of the games we play…win or lose. Had Novak out there but never ran a play for him, get them man a couple of looks from 3 and see how he does.

    • Abused Raptors Fan

      I swear his “offensive scheme” consists of 3 or 4 plays, which generally result in a jumper over a screen, a wing iso or turn into a broken play with all that meaningless movementooutside the arc. It’d be different if we ran an offense predicated upon a few set plays if each of them had a number of different options, and those options were actually used. Overall, our offense looks uncoordinated too often, and has become far too predictable.

  • Aaron

    GV leads the league in YOLO 3’s all while hitting 29% of them! Stephan Curry is 2nd in the league in YOLO 3’s and is hitting 42%. But in all seriousness good game Grevis

  • Roarque

    I have to say the loyalty to the Raptors displayed after this loss is enough to make me puke. The Wizards were ready to do anything to not lose this game while a Raptor win was insignificant. Amir fouled out on a 50/50 call before regulation, Trey Rosay was held back instead of risking his ankle for a “who cares?” win, 2Pat had a tough night ( anybody out there ever have a bad day at work?) and Kyle proved that he’s human and what do you people do?
    Are you Raptor fans? Do you support this team? It’s the next three games that matter not beating the dead horse that is Washington.

  • andre

    in Jonas’ defence, Gortat is one of the premier pick and roll big guys around. Hard to cope with for anone.

  • Kola

    never reading this site again, Vasquez gets an A-??? he lost as the game! 6 to!! holds on to the ball way to long and takes stupid shots!

    • asifyouknow

      KOLA I really don’t have enough room to list all the stupid plays called by Casey, the stupid rim interference by V, the stupid drive by “bad knee” Lowy on a big , the stupid shot by DeMar with the Wizz starters, the bench and cheerleaders on him.
      I’ll stop there, don’t be do dramatis,,lol,,,they will be alright and Vaz will be gone next year, but hey AJ will be available next year you can have him back…lol

  • database_666

    people are venting on players in this blog because they care about this team, and have observed some deficiencies that got exposed in this game. i would also like to say that i admired greatly lowry’s play, his will to compete, fight, and not giving up. in comparison to, let’s say derozan, who looks way too disinterested and pouting at the times, and expects a call each time he touched the ball. the worst thing is, when he does not get a foul, he stays under the opponents basket complaining and flailing his arms while the other team runs out on a breakaway. that is a terrible leadership, compared to lowry’s run back, taking charge, stealing the ball, distracting, and rebounding in traffic. look at the stats line: lowry: 9 rebounds, derozan: 4. all i am saying is, derozan, as the offensive focus of this team, should diversify his game, just a little bit. if players like m.j or kobe are a standard to look up to, and derozan strives to those heights, then, he needs to pick it up on defense much, much more.

  • ibleedpurple

    Yesterday’s loss was a prime example of how important every player is to this team. Losing both Ross and Patterson (3 fouls in first 3 mins of play) early on had a definite impact on the outcome and then when the dominoes started falling it was really only a matter of time before we lost the game. I did like that Casey went to Kyle in crunch time rather then running an isolation for DD. Lowry almost won the game with that floater over the Polish Hammer. Still I’m proud of the guys compete level to take a hungry Wizard’s team to 3 overtimes while severely limited by injuries and fouls. These kinds of games are extremely important to build the kind of grit required for playoff basketball. Good game raps now rest up and smash Sacramento to the 7th level of hell.

  • asifyouknow

    Watched the replay……This game should of never got to the third overtime, Wiz should thank the refs for helping them….Lowry missed the important shots he had two opportunities to end this and Vaz lost two at the end, you all know I’m a big Vaz and Lowry fan but they both sealed the lost for Toronto. I understand towards the end Lowry was hurting and Vaz was dog tired but it is the NBA and you need to play on….

    As for the inside folks,,HELL might as well start 5 guards, that’s like having NOBODY there, anyone on this board might have a change to post this guys.

    They need somebody……… Lou Amundson is available he is ok for 10-15 min to rest Amir and V..if they are not going to play Hayes that might work

  • Quest

    who could we sign to bolster our bench? butler, MWP, chris kaman (if he gets bought out)?

  • morgan c

    Atrocious defensive performance. Super frustrating game. Just hard to be jacked up after watching this team get outclassed by a 500 team. Thought we were better. JV’s performance is alarming. I think DC needs to consider removing him from the starting line-up.

  • Steve

    Wake up good people! Jonas can’t jump (did he ever win a tip
    off?), Jonas can’t run. And no balls.

    • DDayLewis

      What are you talking about? He won last night’s tipoff.

  • steve fisher

    The Raps showed tremendous heart but were without 3 of their starters in crunch time. My MAJOR concern which continues continues to worsen is their only true BIG man JV. We all know he can work well with coaches and has played quite well at times and at times horribly . He has shown far too much talent to struggle this much recently. In the games where he has played very well he was regularly given some early touches which led to success at both ends of the floor. In the last few WEEKS he rarely gets the ball and the fact that this experienced coaching staff has allowed this to continue is ridiculous. The other starters MUST be made aware of the fact that this TEAM CAN NOT have long term success without JV being given an opportunity to contribute at BOTH ends of the floor. Maybe its time for the GM to intervene since this major problem has lingered FAR TOO LONG!!!