Indiana Pacers 94 Final
Recap | Box Score
102 Toronto Raptors
Patrick Patterson, PF Shot Chart 25 MIN | 2-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 7 REB | 2 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 5 PTS | +7

Physically outmatched against West and it showed in the second half. Resorted to reaching from behind and got a few steals, even pumped up some points on offense. A bit surprised the Raptors don’t run more for him closer to the rim and choose to treat him like a scavenger.

Terrence Ross, SF Shot Chart 33 MIN | 8-17 FG | 3-4 FT | 5 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 24 PTS | -2

The confidence is flowing, that much is true. Ran Stephenson ragged though screens all night, and I don’t blame him for taking some of those “questionable” shots – he was hot and has a right to. Defensively, shaky in one-on-one settings against George, especially in the second half.

Jonas Valanciunas, C Shot Chart 34 MIN | 10-14 FG | 2-3 FT | 9 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 3 TO | 22 PTS | +11

Outplayed Hibbert for 90% of this game, the other 10% was when Hibbert gained position on him to score some inside. His finishing in the vicinity of the rim, as has been deliberated here of late, is outstanding, even in traffic. Got hard-fought offensive rebounds, moved very well without the ball when the Pacer bigs were pressing up top, and even hit a couple face-up Js, one late in the fourth.

Greivis Vasquez, PG Shot Chart 33 MIN | 4-12 FG | 0-0 FT | 5 REB | 3 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 10 PTS | +7

Here’s my gripe with this guy: when the Raptors were up 8 in the early part of the third, this guy took a couple very questionable shots that were converted to points by the Pacers, which eventually brought them all the way back. I can’t tolerate that sort of recklessness from a “steady” point guard. I give you that he hit a huge three in the fourth, but man, he walks a tight rope.

DeMar DeRozan, SG Shot Chart 40 MIN | 8-19 FG | 4-5 FT | 4 REB | 9 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 3 TO | 20 PTS | +9

Poor shooting night, but had a great first half where his passing was in full view, especially in finding people when he’s close to the baseline or under the rim. Hit a couple clutch jumpers in the fourth which answered some probing Pacer questions. It was good to see the Raptors pull this off without leaning on him too much.

Tyler Hansbrough, PF Shot Chart 20 MIN | 2-4 FG | 1-2 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 5 PTS | -5

Throw it down, big man. Throw it down. On a recent pod, Andrew suggested that he won’t be part of the playoff rotation. It’s games like these which show why he will. Against a physical team like the Pacers, hustle and grit have a higher exchange rate than finesse and style, and so did Tyler deliver.

Chuck Hayes, PF Shot Chart 17 MIN | 3-4 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 2 BLK | 0 TO | 6 PTS | +1

Solid minutes against the much bigger Hibbert, displayed a shot-put like release when the ball was dumped to him, and on occasion took Hibbert to the rim like he was a toddler. Clogged the paint well, and I’ll forgive some of that slow-footed defense on account of giving his best.

John Salmons, SF Shot Chart 16 MIN | 0-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 0 PTS | +2

I’ve never seen a veteran make so many non-veteran plays. Way too vertical on defense, needlessly fouling George to spark the dormant wing into action, and playing in a sense of daze that you simply don’t expect from a vet like him.

Nando de Colo, PG Shot Chart 23 MIN | 3-8 FG | 2-2 FT | 2 REB | 5 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 10 PTS | +10

Huge second quarter performance where he upped the tempo, which is what the Pacers hate. The ball-handling against George Hill was supreme, and gave the latter a taste of his own medicine. When the Raptors were in a second-half lull, Casey called on him again and he delivered again, including a huge clutch three which tied the game in the fourth. He even drew this reaction from Lowry.

Dwane Casey

Great call on yanking Salmons, who just wasn’t with it. The trust in Nando paid off as well, and he managed Valanciunas’ minutes extremely well. Putting Hibbert in pick ‘n roll situations with Jonas was smart, and so was making Stephenson play defense by having him run around screens against Ross.

Five Things We Saw

  1. No Amir Johnson in the frontcourt which meant the pressure on the Raptors already thin frontline was huge. How did the team respond? By outrebounding the Pacers by three -42-39.
  2. Interior defense and rebounding in the fourth quarter was huge. Raps outrebounded the Pacers 15-9 in the fourth and had 8 second chance points in the quarter, to theirs 2. They restricted the Pacers to shooting 36% in the fourth.
  3. Terrence Ross’s recognition of defenses is improving considerably. You see him using screens so much better than last season, how he put Stephenson and George on his back a couple times was impressive. His favorite thing to do, though, is to make that diagonal, almost U-shaped run to come out for a wing three.
  4. Nando De Colo bothered the Pacers – it was almost like they didn’t plan for him at all. He surprised them with his pace in transition and surprised everyone with his shot-making. That drive where he missed at Hansbrough cleaned up was huge.
  5. Jonas Valanciunas is just a smarter player than Roy Hibbert. He’s not there physically yet, but if he closes that gap, there is no reason to think he won’t surpass Hibbert in every sense.

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261 Responses to “Reaction: Pacers 94, Raptors 102 – Nando De Colo Shines”

  1. Andre Julian Ward

    I feel terrible for doubting this team. When calculating how many games we’ll win for the season, I counted this one as a loss. Shame on me. Good job Raptors; keep surprising me.

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    • webfeat

      I was thinking it would be super if the raps could win 1 of 3 against Miami, Houston and Indiana. Man, am I ecstatic I was so off.

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    • Abused Raptors Fan

      You’re not the only one, I never expected to see the Pacers end March with a 8-10 record! And, as a JV supporter/optimist, even I didn’t think he’d finish the season this strong on both ends of the court back in February

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  2. JRedmond14

    Jonas inbound defense was my reaction after the game. Big win on that road to 50 wins!

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        • Justin

          Can someone cheer at the ACC? Is their a rule that prohibits cheering? This team is unreal and people are sitting in their seats, they don’t cheer after time outs, no defense chants. I wish so badly that I could go to a game but I live in Saskatchewan. I would be going nuts like Jonas!!! My only complaint tonight. GO RAPS!

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          • Minks77

            have you ever been to a good game at the ACC? Place is bumping. I think it’s largely the game ops that kinda mute the audience. I think they should dim the lights on the stands and turn up the mics.

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          • 5upercharged

            Dude, I was at the game and it was CRAZY loud. Like deafening loud at times. One of the loudest games Iv been too. You need to to drive down for a playoffs game and feel it for yourself.

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          • morgan c

            I just watch at home on computer (live in States), but it’s true, the ACC doesn’t compare to OKC, Indiana, San Antonio when it comes to the crowd getting into it. We have been better, sure, but the overwhelming amount of suits in the lower level doesn’t help. In OKC, literally every single person is on their feet for 5-10 minutes at a time, in tight good games. I mean, I guess in OKC they have nothing else to do but still!

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        • Mexiballer

          Ha ha…that is so funny. And the thing is he bothered the hell out of Stephenson. How can you inbound the ball when you have those big arms flopping all over the place.

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      • noname

        hibbert is so horribly overrated that he is only slightly better than JV at this point. Watch out for JV next year.

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        • Moe

          I agree but don’t pit hibbert on a pedestal. He good against one team and that’s Miami. Other then that, he is very very overrated. He gets the benefit if the call every time, he is no where near Howard good as a defender

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          • Minks77

            every competent big looks good against Miami. Heat are prepared to allow teams to run it through the post.

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          • noname

            umm ya i know that, im saying hibbert is overrated but that jv hasn’t passed him yet. It won’t be long. i never put him on a pedestal.

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        • JRedmond14

          When you are considered to be the best rim protector in the league and a 6’6″ center with the nickname “Chunky” scores a floating left hook over you, you know you are overrated

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          • noname

            umm ya i know that, im saying hibbert is overrated but that jv hasn’t passed him yet. It won’t be long.

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            • CJT

              JV averages .4 of a point less, 2 more rebounds and shoots a higher percentage than Hibbert, the only area Hibbert has an advantage is blocks. Once JV adds a bit more muscle he will be even MORE dominate over Hibbert.

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        • acfaubs

          And that means JV is already better than him? I love Jonas, have since we drafted him. But no sense getting carried away after one game — maybe JV’s best game of the year and also a poor one from Hibbert.

          All that aside, great fucking win.

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            • acfaubs

              I agree, just felt like the head-to-head match-up tonight/post-game giddiness was playing a part in the argument here. I think JV can be better than Hibbert, he has the ability to do more offensively than Roy ever could. Just not sure if Jonas’ overall impact is that of Hibbert’s right now. I’d love for him to prove me wrong to close out the season, though…

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              • Abused Raptors Fan

                You could make an argument that JV’s offensive skills surpassed Hibbert’s a month or two ago. Over the past 13 games, he’s averaging nearly 14/9.5 a game on 58% from the field and 89% from the line. JV also has a better jumper, and pick n roll and post games. The kids offensive rating has been insane the past 6 games, and great the past 13. Going back to mid February, he’s only shot below 50% in 8 games of 34, and only 4 of the past 20. Hibbert only shots 45% from the floor this season. The biggest difference is obviously defense, but if you look at their net ratings, JVs is better, and he’s got a better WS/48. Hibbert still has the advantage, but the difference isn’t as great as it seemed at the beginning of the season

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                • Philoveritas

                  I have always kept an eye on Hibbert ever since we traded away that pick. To be honest I didn’t think we lost out on much, he was fat, slow, out of sync as a youngster. Sure he has started to get it together in the past couple of seasons. JV is a whole other story, he only seems to be limited by a lack of usage by both Casey and the players. A game like last night shows that if you drive and throw the ball blindly into the low post Jonas will score it because he is always there. He went through a bit of a slump a while back with his confidence, he has the swag back now.

    • Raps

      Why do you always overreact to anything and everything after each game? it’s ridiculous…

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      • FREEJV

        pacers fans arent welcome here. Go over to the pacers board if you dont like it.

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        • Raps

          I’m a raps fan kid and just because I don’t overreact to the silliest things doesn’t mean I’m not a fan…

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      • FREEJV

        aside from shot blocking their stats are the same. Jv averages 1.5 more rebs

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        • Minks77

          Hibbert is a better defender and has a much deeper record of excellence. I love JV, he’ll keep getting better but it’s too early to crown him King

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      • Ghotte

        Hibbert is a way, way better rim protector. Not even close right now. Doesn’t mean JV won’t get there but there’s reality and then there’s…stats.

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    • ad

      I remember saying hibbert was overrated earlier in the year and got into an argument with one of the writers here and some other commenter. Turns out I was right:)

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    • A. Finol

      Good to see that happening… good for JV we need him like tonight every night….

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  3. jjdynomite

    I fucking love this team. Not since 92-93 have I been so stoked to watch sporting events in this city. Masai really is the Messiah.

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    • Minks77

      lol, I love Masai, I love this squad and I miss the energy of a legit team in this city too. That being said, most of this team is still very much BC, MU has only rounded some rough edges so far

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      • JRedmond14

        Yah but Masai knows how to assemble a winner. Bryan Colangelo also had Bargnani and Rudy brought in. If he were still here, you would be critcizing the moves. BC doesn’t the savvy and BALLS Masai does to make the Rudy and Bargs trades

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        • Minks77

          I’m not gonna argue that but BC had the balls to draft Ross (no one knew him) and JV (no one was sure of him either), stuck with DeMar, pulled the raps out of the post Vince era with some extremely creative moves and did a lot of good for this franchise and current squad. Yes Bargs at #1 was a mistake as was sticking with him. Yes Rudy was a panic move that didn’t work out. Yes he tended to overpay and negotiate against himself but he wasn’t clueless or stupid and he deserves some credit. Masai didn’t just come here and rebuild the entire team on the fly

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          • DC

            BC did some good things and some not-so-good things. But I think MU’s basketball IQ is higher.

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            • Ghotte

              Masai seems he’s not comfortable making really risky moving. Colangelo’s problem was he was making big moves constantly and hoping everyone would gel in time.

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            • Roarque

              I think you mean people IQ – Basketball IQ refers to a PLAYER’S ability to see the floor in real time and read the opponents play so the player with the high Basketball IQ can react faster than he otherwise could with above average hand to eye coordination.

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              • DC

                No, I mean basketball IQ. MU played professional basketball, and I think he understands the subtleties of the floor game and the interaction between players better. He might also understand people better, but that’s harder to judge from here.

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          • JRedmond14

            I agree with what you are saying but Masai>Colangelo>Chris Grant(Former Cavs GM). Masai has an awesome eye for talent. Masai found Nando and Colangelo found Kleiza

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            • Minks77

              I agree MU>BC>Glen G>CG>>Babcock…

              BC also had a great eye for talent. Jorge, Parker, Ford (for Charlie V), DD, Ed Davis (whom he sold very Hi on), JV… jus saying. BC wasn’t as awful as we sometimes make him out to be

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            • Saints91

              And BC found Amir. BC had some good moves but he also had just as many bad moves. You have to credit MU for the addition by subtraction as well as the guys to trade our “franchise player” for bench depth and flexibility. Along with trading Bargs. BC had great finds in JV, Ross and DeMar.

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              • Steverino

                And MU has had how many years as a GM? And who did he learn under? In time, he’ll stink just like every other GM in the league has at times.

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          • jakdripr

            I honestly don’t think Bargs was a mistake. The boy had talent and that draft was pathetic, if he’d developed into his potential he’d have made a potent one two punch with Bosh. Also, and this is an honest question, who would you have preferred he took? I mean Rondo fell to 21 so a lot of GM’s slept on him, then you have Roy who isn’t even in the nba anymore. Aldrigde and Gay would have probably been better options, but hindsights 20/20 right?

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            • Minks77

              Aldridge. Don’t gimme shit about how we had Bosh. Take the best big available, that was LMA. Bargs was a mistake. Hell I wanted Roy and still think Roy, even with the career ending injuries, would’ve been a better choice.

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              • jakdripr

                Hey I said Aldridge in my post right? But if we’d chosen him and it didn’t work out, we’d all be sitting her complaining about how his game was too similar to Bosh’s. If we’d passed on Bargs and he’d ended up turning into the next Dirk we’d be on her complaining as well. At the end of the day there’re too many factors to consider when drafting, but my point is Bargnani flopped because of bad development and an apparent lack of interest in getting better. We kept seeing flashes in 07 and 08 of how amazing he could be, but they never became consistent.

                Finally, like I said, that draft was absolutely pathetic. I mean the fact that we can only list 3 players that would have been better choices than Primo pasta just shows BC wasn’t necessarily spoilt for choice to begin with.

                With all that said, I think, all things considered, Gay/Roy were probably the best choices(more so Gay considering how Roy ended up). We didn’t have a lot of depth at wing and he’d have complimented bosh well

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                • Minks77

                  sorry, but I can name a lot of players from that draft I wanted ahead of Bargs and you def cannot play the “what if barges turned into” he didn’t and wouldn’t regardless whom drafted him. He doesn’t have the heart/motor or natural Ball IQ to have become the next Dirk. He only ever did one thing at an above average level : score from mid range. In all the years he was here we had a 13 game flash where we still weren’t winning games. He played for 3 different coaches in Toronto and NEVER CARED.

                  Aldridge, Roy, Gay, and Reddick are all guys I liked that worked out. I’ll admit that a large part of it was because I’d never really heard of or seen AB play. I feel like BC talked himself into the dream of what AB could be largely because he saw a very talented paisano

                • jakdripr

                  Aight aight, ill concede to this. Primo pasta was a bad choice.

    • webfeat

      Gotta give some props to BC for drafting TRoss and JV. Those were unpopular picks. The contracts for Amir and DD were seen as overpayments as well. And he did bring Lowry to Toronto.

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      • imaginelino

        if BC was still here, so would Gay, and you know how disastrous that was.

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          • Bendit

            In fairness BC was finally resigned to trade Bargs after the season but probably would have bought him/amnestied him.

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      • jjdynomite

        Sure webfeat, but all the players you listed were on the Raptors last year — with the same head coach — and yet, for some reason, they were a depressing, lotterybound team, WITH NO LOTTERY PICK.

        Instead:
        Patterson/Vasquez/DeColo – Gay/Bargnani = 12 games over .500.

        And a 2014 first round pick.
        And a 2015 first round pick.

        And, oh yeah, the KNICKS’ 2016 first round pick aside from their own.

        But please, tell me more about how well BC constructed this team for sustained success. You forgot to mention Hedo. And JO. And Fields’ $19 million contract to attempt to sign a 38-year-old point guard with chronic back problems. And losing Bosh for nothing.

        I’m waiting.

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          • jjdynomite

            Sorry DDay my phone battery was running low. It’s not wrath, it’s just annoyance at revisionist history. BC was an excellent drafter (Amare back in his PHX days, etc.) but couldn’t construct a team worth shit.

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            • Steverino

              And we’ll see how good Masai is at drafting. So maybe, like the players, they have different strengths, too. Drafting is part of constructing a team, too.

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              • jjdynomite

                Agreed, Steve, but there, too, Masai has a solid track record. In the 2 years he had picks in Denver he selected Faried 21st overall (2011) when a number of scrubs were chosen before him, and then Fournier 20th overall and Quincy Miller 38th overall (2012) who aren’t as heralded but both have talent and are certainly not busts.

                Simply put, Masai didn’t win Executive of the Year in 2013 for some sort of affirmative action test case. He’s obviously smart and has a solid track record in drafting *and* team bulding. I am sure if he was still on the Nuggets they would be a hell of a lot better than their current showing.

                Look, I’m not saying Ujiri is God or anything… just the Messiah. 🙂

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                • Steverino

                  I’m not denying he was good in Denver. I’m saying it’s a miniscule sample size. In time, he’ll make bad decisions and bad draft picks just like every GM does.

          • MoPeteRules

            I was always a big fan of Linasanity! Naw just kidding, I just wanted to say Linasanity

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        • jakdripr

          All the dude said was give BC props for drafting both of those players, fact is at the time most of us(myself included) weren’t impressed by the draft choices, and here we are celebrating them. He never even implied BC was good at building a team so I don’t see where you entire rant is coming from. Dude was horrid at constructing teams, but he was pretty good when it came to drafting.

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        • Steverino

          Sure, Masai contributed to the success. But without the players BC put together, this wouldn’t be the same team. And I for one would like to see more of Fields with or without his $19 million contract.

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          • A. Finol

            But also, this team is what it is because the new blood it got, the proof 2013-13 team vs 2013-114 team… Let’s enjoy the present and prepare for the PLAYOFF baby!!!!!!

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      • Abused Raptors Fan

        The only caveat there is the question of how much credit BC actually deserves for those picks and how much was his scouts/draft team (including Masai, BCs director of global scouting).Obviously he got the final say, but the list he selected from was made by the scouting staff. And we should also remember all the garbage picks he made before his 4 year streak began in 2009.

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  4. Age

    This is the most complete raps team in raptor history

    Also, lowry and amir injury may be a blessing for JV, Ross and Vasquez in the playoffs. They are getting touches and confident!!

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    • Abused Raptors Fan

      Definitely a blessing for JV and Ross as both stepped up big tonight. I’d say De Colo over Vasquez though, because he’s still learning the system while Vasquez might be a bit too confident at times lol

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      • webfeat

        Vasquez over de Colo with our bench unit (Salmons, Hayes/Hansbrough, 2Pat, and either DD or Tross). de Colo over Vasquez with the starters when Casey wants a small ball lineup.

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  5. JonasBrutha

    Since when did the NBA start handing out all star nods like Jehovah Witness fliers? Jonas making Hibbert look like Kwame Brown out here. No criticism here, great team win. Go raps. Finish strong tomorrow boys!

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  6. Louvens Remy

    Pacers are weaksauce. Screen and roll Hibbert for days. Paul George is L.A.Z.Y. I don’t care what advanced stats say. He could be a Scottie Pippen but he too concerned about giving away a million not to have a baby. Plus he on the internet too much.

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  7. Quest

    Amazing game. JV and Ross were amazing and nando came up big! another great move by Ujiri! DD played a solid game with 20pts and 9dimes. he’s gotten to the point where he does not need to score a ton to help the team win. Let’s go raptors!

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  8. Tanks-a-lot

    OTish
    I noticed the NBA Green T’s the players were wearing. So, I checked it out. I was quite pleased to see their site was completely absent of any mention of “climate change” or the worse “global warming” phrases. They stuck with actual environmental concerns that are real, not political fraud. I’m very happy to see that the NBA stayed away from that cow flatulence. Kudos to the NBA.

    Oh, and the front page is fap material for ‘asifyouknow’

    nba (dot) com/green/mission (dot) html

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    • Minks77

      yeah stay away from that climate change nonsense and stop promoting this evolution based “science” and just go watch Noah which is practically reality TV.

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      • Gman

        Hey whoa, I’m a Christian and I believe in evolution and climate change…any Christian who is against science is just isn’t educated.

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        • Minks77

          my reply was before yours and aimed at tanks.

          That being said, I’m not a Christian but if you believe in the Christian God, fine. Respect. Don’t come at me like the bible is a bunch of literal stories though cuz then we’ll have to have a discussion that doesn’t belong son a ball site 🙂

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          • Gman

            I don’t take the Bible absolutely literally. The problem I had with your opinion is that it comes from the assumption that Christians don’t believe in science. Unfortunately a lot of people who love the bullhorn and being loud like Tanks, should spend a little more time reading and a little less time watching Fox News.

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            • Minks77

              you mean you don’t believe in stoning women and owning slaves and repressing homosexuals? good, then we can be friends.

              Also, my comment doesn’t necessarily reflect my opinion. It was a throw away to sir Trolls-a-lot. If I offended you… well sorry bout that kinda/maybe? hit me up with an IM to my RR account (same handle) if you want to really know my opinion on religion. Right now I just wanna cheer bitch slapping the Pacers!

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              • Tanks-a-lot

                “you mean you don’t believe in stoning women and owning slaves and repressing homosexuals?”

                You know which ideology that is. The fact that you are trying to pin that on Christianity makes you quite the ignorant person, or a deliberate liar.

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                • Tanks-a-lot

                  Have you ever read it cover to cover?
                  That’s your problem. You are coming from a place of ignorance. Tell me all about how Jesus stoned women, owned slaves and repressed homosexuals. Then, go, and sin no more.

                • Minks77

                  bible is 2 books dumb ass, old and new. I never said Jesus stoned women. keep putting words in my mouth and taking comments out of context though.

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  Try reading the book that claims the whole Bible is a corruption. I won’t say its name here lest some folks get irrationally upset.

              • Gman

                Sounds good. I had to say something because guys like Tanks a lot, give Christians who aren’t calcified in previous centuries a bad name. Two of my closest Christian friends have doctorates from Princeton…and like me, they shake their heads at people like Tanks a lot who’s entire education seems to come from the misinformation that is laid like a minefield throughout the internet. The problem is that their brains are so rattle by the information PTSD they don’t realize that they’re starting to resemble the Knight from the Monty Python film, after the fight…no legs, no arms…extreme denial.

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                • Tanks-a-lot

                  Why don’t you address me and state the misinformation I said? hmmmm?

                • Gman

                  Because I’ve debated people like you in the past. It’s a long and ridiculous process…and I’m assuming that ultimately we both have something better to do. Maybe not…I was away working and thought I’d check back and voila, here you are.

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  Whatever, you are validating the atheist’s misinformation without bothering to state what I said that is false. Silly me for noticing that.

                • Gman

                  How is climate change atheist misinformation? Wow…you need to carry a brown paper bag with you and breathe slowly and deeply every time one of those thoughts comes to you

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  so, you believe the alarmist predictions are to be held up as factual. Good to know you have so much faith in “pal review”

                • Minks77

                  to paraphrase from Mahr “if the deniers are right we’re out a few billion. If the SCIENTISTS are right we all die.”

                  Real alarmist.

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  so, scientists are your infallible priestly class. That’s how you hold them up. They are credentialed so suddenly they can’t have an agenda.

                • Gman

                  See the difference between old world Christians and new world Christians…I believe God created science. I think that he created this pretty damn amazing Universe and he wants us to understand the deeper beauties and under current meanings of it all. If your faith is threatened by science, than your faith is as weak as a Dwight Howard free throw…yeah I went there.

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  That’s the problem. Soothsaying is NOT science. “The end of the world is nigh” isn’t anything but scaremongering to keep the grant gravy train going.

                  I wish you would see through it.

                • Minks77

                  No, human frailty is where I put my faith. I put my faith in the fact that people can’t keep their mouths shut. Therefore anytime you have one of these conspiracy theories you need to consider just how many people would have to be involved. if 98% of climate scientists agree that shit is going pear shaped you need to consider that that is THOUSANDS of very intelligent men and women whose lives are dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge through the scientific method. The idea that all those peeps could all be “in” on this simply for the scroll is ridiculous. eventually you’d end up with some moral, overly principled lab rat breaking the news. GUARANTEED.

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  “98% of climate scientists agree ”
                  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
                  I knew you would try that debunked line on me.
                  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

                • Minks77

                  Haha, ok, go ahead, stick your head in the sand and deny deny deny in the face of any and all empirical evidence because it doesn’t fit your little “evil politicians and greedy, wealthy super villains” conspiracy theory

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  and, now you call me a “denier”. The OBSERVATIONAL evidence is real. Every single modeled prediction has failed. Every one of them.
                  So, what do?
                  Scaremonger some more.

                • Gman

                  The IPCC has just done a study that had the leading environmental scientists from all of the first world countries, read it. It’s definitive. Or you could watch Fox News make fun of it, which is kind of like learning without all the hard brain stuff.

                • Gman

                  Yes, a group of about a thousand people who are so ridiculously smart, they’d have to drive a spike through their brain before they’d be approaching the level of impaired cognitive ability that you have. The troll wins…I’m out of here. I’m going to go read a bit before I go to sleep. You should try it. Read something that taxes you…with fewer pictures…perhaps some historical fiction. Just finished the Lord Good Bird. It won the National Book Award in the States last year. Go deeper…not farther.

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  Yes, why don’t you go deeper into the IPCC and their ties to green groups and political scientists. It’s the damned UN. You would think the the mission of the IPCC which deliberately denies the Sun has anything to do with climate change might just give you some pause to look into the details of their reports.

                • Minks77

                  I wish I could learn that lesson Gman. it’s like punching a wall. The wall doesn’t change and you walk away worn out.

                • Minks77

                  you stated that Climate change is a fraud and a myth perpetrated by politicians, which is total BS.

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  I will state that alarmist predictions are a fraud designed to fill the coffers of treasuries controlled by politicians.

                • Gman

                  Then you should probably adjust your tin foil hat because it’s leaning ever so slightly to the right. And you need to make sure your picking up your Glenn Beck loonie toons radio signals so you know just who should be inducing your ridiculous right wing paranoias.

                • Tanks-a-lot

                  nice, all you have is name calling and your assumptions. I’m sure Lysenko would be proud of you.

                • Minks77

                  Well said and I can respect that. Just can’t figure out how some people can be so dogmatic and willfully blind.

                • Gman

                  Agreed, but that can also come from any ethos one clings to, including atheism.

                • Minks77

                  true, true.

                  The old adage that goes “Anyone who says they have God on their side is dangerous as hell” is funny but it applies to any inflexible idea held too closely.

          • Gman

            Yeah I wrote it too quickly while I was doing other things. I’m actually a writer. It’s what I do professionally but you wouldn’t know it then. Oh well…

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      • Tanks-a-lot

        “this evolution based science”
        what does that have to do with political priests demanding you pay an extra tax for a “problem” they can never fix. Climate changes. Wow, really? Are you going to call me a “denier” next? How about flogging the flat earth myth?

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          • Tanks-a-lot

            no silly.
            Google: The Flat Earth Myth
            Then realize how dumb people sound when they call others “Flat Earthers”

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        • asifyouknow

          All I know is that every time we get bad weather they tell us it came from Canada,,I hate snow!!!

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    • Gman

      Wow, not the place to air your ignorance about climate change there Tanks…

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  9. Nerius

    I cannot stress enough how big JV was in this game, not only his points early and his timely rebounds that may have turned the game in the right direction but also his movement on defense, his rotation without the ball (like the dime he got from DD). Energized like never before. Great game, great win! I loved the way Lowry was cheering for Jonas after his putback. Brilliant!

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  10. mountio

    Great game. JV and TR were both excellent .. but most importantly got the minutes they deserve! 33 mins for each … Casey should take a note that these two should get that many minutes AT LEAST, every single game. Salmons should barely see the floor – that 16 mins tonight to spread around. His mins should go to de Yolo, Ross and maybe LF.
    All in all, very good win

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  11. why

    Thanks to Zarir for posting so quickly! Vey exciting – Ross looked like a young Ray Allen the way he used screens to get open and knock down 3s. If he can develop a consistent mid range game the sky is the limit for him.
    Pacers look like a shell of the team they were earlier in the seaso. Let’s hold third and conference finals is not as far fatched as it might have seemed earlier.

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        • FREEJV

          yea i will if he turns into a hall of famer…. dont make me laugh,…. even vince carter might not be a HOF

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          • Rapchat

            Im not making you laugh, thats the shrooms bro. It causes hallucinations and a sense of euphoria. You may have actually cut your nuts off already better check it out… Who said anything about HOF? Cuz that’s funny. Read the post. And then re-read it again. There is NO mention of HOF until you just brought it up. Hmmm. Second, my comment was based on the original comment which “likened” Ross to Allen when it comes to using screens to hit 3’s. I happen to agree. I also happen to think that Ross isn’t close to peaking, and will become a bonafide NBA star for years to come. We shall see. Looking back, T Mac was more like T Hansbrough his first couple years and he emerged as an elite player. Ross is ahead of T Mac by a mile already. The HOF debate is pointless anyway because it takes a lot of luck with things that are out of the players control to manifest a HOF career ie, team, franchise, coach. So, with all that said, would you cut your nut off if T BOSS makes allstar in the next 2 years?

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      • why

        I didn’t say he would turn into Ray Allen. For one game one aspect of his game looked like Ray Allen. If he improves his mid range game he should be a high end NBA piayer- whether he does it or not remains to be seen however there are flashes

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  12. asifyouknow

    Last ten games:

    The fight till the end lose in overtime to Durant

    They went toe to toe with Miami

    They beat the Rockets

    They beat Indiana

    The last three with injuries!

    There are still lots of non believers out there, but is hard to deny that this is a TEAM that makes winning plays when they count.

    All I can say is GOOD JOB by all and hope I don’t have to hand out any DEBBIE DOWNERS AWARDS tonight…lol

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  13. Icarus Descending

    So satisfying to see our sophomores stepping up and continuing to grow. I hope they stay in Toronto for years to come because the possibilities are very exciting.

    Also great to see de Colo settling down on offence. I love his energy and you can tell it makes his teammates up their level of play as well.

    Let’s maintain this level of intensity and execution into the playoffs.

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  14. bizzy

    What sux is people are still focused on the maple queefs on making the playoffs they forget about this team that we really should be proud of. I’ve never been more proud of my raps ever than now.

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    • Minks77

      Ach, at the beer Store this evening I was in a very animated discussion with 2 other people on line about the Raps. We ALL bitched about the media hard on for the Leafs and were all amped for the Indy Raps game. They were super casual fans and thats what was great about it.

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    • webfeat

      To be fair, this is a hockey town and it will always be. The Leafs showed some character by beating Boston. With Columbus losing tonight, there’s a little light at the end of the tunnel, but with Bernier out, we’re probably gonna get a lot of bandwagon fans for the raps very soon.

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      • GetLicks

        Character? Let’s be honest: Boston has pretty much locked up 1st seed and is more concerned with resting and getting healthy for a cup run, not winning meaningless games. The leafs, quite frankly, don’t even deserve to make the playoffs the way they’ve played.

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  15. De Colo

    Salmons tried to spark the Pacers and he succeeded in pissing them off to the point where they made a nice run but the rest of the Raptors turned it around and finished them off. Great win

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    • kayell

      It was Hanborough that pissed them off…he elbowed George as he ran by frusturating him, then when Salmons went to guard George I think George might have said something out of anger which provoked Salmons to push him. It all started with Hanborough, he does things do sneakily

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      • Haim not Feldman

        Teamwork! Though it backfired, props anyway to “John Candy” Salmons. Candy wasn’t takin’ no shorts when he stepped to Paul George. Just mo indication of the Raps’ toughness.

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      • Guest

        Nah, George was flailing his elbows like a whiny little child cause Salmons and Hansborough were bumping him. After he flailed is arms is when Salmons pushed him, cause elbows be pointy and shit.

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  16. doncity

    winning a game like this without Kyle and Amir is just huge – gonna be a great spring

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  17. StabbyRaccoon

    6 easy games to go! But they better not treat them as easy. They need to win most of them and still rest Kyle and Amir enough so that they’re in good shape by the playoffs. But after tonight I really doubt that’ll be a problem.

    Playoffs! Bring it!

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    • johng_3

      Actually the Knicks are playing pretty good and they are desperate to make the playoffs. So that may be difficult games

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      • StabbyRaccoon

        That’s true. The Raptors can totally take them but it won’t be easy. Then again Indiana isn’t easy either! 😀

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      • Ghotte

        It won’t be an embarrassment if we split with the Knicks…they are playing well now.

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  18. Fire Carlyle

    Two things standout in this one of 82 games- Nando stepping up (and reminding everyone that Vasquez is the backup PG only because he got here first) and JV doing the high jump splits in late game defensive inbounds. Now I’ve watched thousands of NBA games and never have I saw a centre do jump splits on inbounds let alone ones that were so enthusiastically… Ladies and gentlemen, we’re watching the maturation and coming-out party of our all star centre for the next 15 years …

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    • De Colo

      I think calling De Colo better then Vasquez is a huge overreaction and yes, i said it.

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        • De Colo

          I dont even think that, De Colo has made big plays like twice, Vasquez does it whenever the team needs it almost every game, that statement was just unnessecary is my point.

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        • asifyouknow

          Two starts vs top teams, two wins …what now?
          What Bull are you going to make up now?
          What Idiotic theory are you all coming up with?
          What rope is the posse going to use now?
          If you guys would know how ignorant you sound you would be embarrass.
          I bet many of you are 12 year olds right? Shame on me for arguing with kids. Sorry.

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      • Haim not Feldman

        I think NanD’oh is better. He isn’t flamboyant, he plays smart and under control which is something we’d expect coming from the Spurs. Notice how the Raps took their first big lead in the first quarter when NanD’oh was PG and did not give up their lead in the third when Indy whittled the lead down to two, again with NanD’oh as PG.

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        • De Colo

          Ya, Raptors also took big leads in other games when Vasquez is on the court, this is one game, and only one game, can’t just make it the norm

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          • Haim not Feldman

            The dude plays for the French national team. He played with Parker as a Spur and was in the Finals last year. IMO he’s got a higher potential upside.

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            • De Colo

              He played 2.8 mpg in the playoffs and only played in 5 games, just because you got to watch a team in the finals from the bench, doesn’t mean you’re automatically a good player.

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            • asifyouknow

              The guy a journeyman player will be in the league another year or so, French National team…wow …I would play Niagara university vs them and beat them..

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              • Guest

                They’d spank Venezuela. Donta Smith or not bud. You watch any of the FIBA’s frm Caracas this summer?

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            • Steverino

              Lots of players play for their national teams. France is pretty good, but Spain was even better and Jose was their starting point guard. Being a teammate of someone doesn’t make you good. And being on a championship team and never playing doesn’t make you any good. Again, I like De Colo and hope he continues playing well. But I also like Vazquez.

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              • Guest

                You sure? Cause I used to play ball with a guy who’s now on the national team. That’s how I establish my cred… because it makes me good. Right?

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                • Haim not Feldman

                  Right. Like Kukoc, Kerr, Paxson and Rodman didn’t benefit from playing with MJ, and look at the players who benefitted playing with Kobe. There’s ….Luke Watlon and uh …. never mind.

        • Ghotte

          Nando is a completely different type of guard and isn’t really a prototypical PG. Seems more of a 2 guard with decent passing skills. If you had swapped Nando for Vaz this season, it’s highly unlikely things would have gone as smoothly.

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        • DDayLewis

          Lol you think de Colo isn’t flamboyant, and is under control? Boy, you’re in for a surprise

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          • Mexiballer

            Ive noticed that in the last two games he stopped leaving his feet while trying to pass the ball to an imaginary team mate. Maybe the coaches have showed him the film and let him know that he had to stop making those out of control plays.

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          • Haim not Feldman

            Well, I may not agree with it but whatever a player does off the court is dey own bidnezz.

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        • Steverino

          Yes, I noticed that… in one game. Jesus, you people are incredible. It’s not always a contest between teammates. They’re different players, each with his own strengths. Teammates complement each other. To like one, you don’t have to dislike the other, and vice versa.

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          • Mexiballer

            I agree. Its good news that Vasquez and De Colo are both playing better just when we need them to. It will change from night to night who plays better than who. Im just glad we have some options at point guard coming off the bench, making the whole team deeper and stronger . Casey has way more options available to him now and will go with whatever, or who ever can get the job done on any given night. Tonight it was DeColo. Last game it was Novak. Tomorrow it could be Vasquez. It doesnt matter who plays better each night. As long as somebody is there to step up and do the job.

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          • asifyouknow

            Tell that idiot that when the same folks were getting ready to lynch JV I was as defensive about him as Vaz, some with Patterson and Salmons .
            The same people take turns pounding on Raptors.
            They pick a flavor of the month, the reason they do that is because they are fantasy players and not real NBA fans , they actually believe they own a team so they know everything…lol…lol,, idiots just idiots..
            I got to call them as I see it.

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          • asifyouknow

            I know I love to get them going….Do you know I have never called a Raptor a bum or said anything negative about them even though I may not like them ?
            One exception, Casey…lol

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          • asifyouknow

            Look DeColo is a good player , you know I’m a Spurs fan so I know him well, he is a 5 minute guy who is a good practice player. He wont be around long.

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      • Boner Patrol

        Brokeback Mountain is on netflix..just thought you might be interested.

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      • FLUXLAND

        Handing out Debbie Downer awards to 2 year olds?

        I understand my dear brother.

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    • A. Finol

      Please man, enough is enough being a downer with GV… the guy is doing great for the team inside and outside the court and we must appreciate that he is putting as much effort that anybody else in this team and the fact is that we are in the playoff with a great seed place. So stop it bro and enjoy the team…the must important is they get along well and they are playing very good together as soon as the egos start fighting in the team could be destroyed. At this stage Masai need to start thinking on a top coach to lead this team further and keep it strong otherwise if the locker room changes its atmosphere next year we will be miss these euphoria that we have now , for sure.

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  19. asifyouknow

    Zarar Siddiqi DeRozen and Vaz both took what the game gave them….
    In my way of looking at things the only bad night DeMar can have is if he doesn’t put up the ball 15+ times a night even if he is shooting 30% I let him shot Rudy Gay shots all day, he is a mini-MJ in the making.
    Vaz is Vaz …hi risk, high reward.. that is what he is all about. You either like it or you won’t.
    he will won more games than he loses. He did a hell of a good job and so did DeColo who hit some big shots. Vaz had the big rebound at the end, had the big momentum changing steal and hit some good shots. So I don’t understand your gripe.
    Vas is not your cup of tea? Fair enough. Well then go get Chris Paul as a back-up next year. lol

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    • Steverino

      Agreed. It’s amazing what people around here expect from a backup. Also, if you want to be considered a semi-journalist, you should be writing things like “this guy” in reference to a player.

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  20. Feather Ruffler

    Looking to next year and the restricted status of both Vasquez and Patterson, if the Raptors have to let Vasquez walk to sign Patterson to an extension, it doesn’t seem as big a loss having seeing De Colo the last few games. He’s a lot faster than I initially thought and his defense has surprised me too. What I’ve come to appreciate (in a limited sample size admittedly) is how fearless he seems. The kid is tough as nails.

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  21. James

    I love this team. Ross and Jv were beastly tonight. Demar showing why hes a leader on this team and an all star this year with another big game. The bench was great as always. Right now this team has what it takes to go to the ECF without a doubt in my mind and it only getting better from here. GO RAPS!!

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  22. Feather Ruffler

    40 minutes tonight for Demar… The only thing to nitpick at concerning this game.

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  23. krew

    Lose.to the heat, lose Kloe, then lose Amir.

    And we beat Houston and Indy when we should have lost. Gotta love it. I seriously thought these two games were loses without 2 starters. I’m loving this team!

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  24. tonious35

    If Nando is a “Crouching Parker, Hidden-Dragic”…Masai might of fleeced RC Buford and Popovich.

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  25. ad

    This was a biiiggg win. Now the sked gets easier. Have to take care of business. 6-0 the rest of the way is not unrealistic now. Have to play wsh or cha in 1st rd and hold onto the 3rd seed.

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  26. da kid deebee

    NINE assists NINE – remember when DeMar was a one dimensional scorer?

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  27. jeeves

    great call on yanking salmons? how about putting a younger, arguably better defender in fields on george in the first place?

    the biggest joke is that salmons was entered into the game, and took over for ross, while ross was still on the floor. ross held george to 10 points, but instead of subbing him out for rest, he shifted him over to guard turner in the 3rd, and put salmons on george…..yeah, good call casey, put the 34 year old on the most explosive 23 year old, no problem.

    That’s not a slam on salmons, i love salmons, despite his recent shooting woes….

    i will give casey credit for yanking vasquez outta of the final defensive possessions when indiana was inbounding the ball. last game against houston, lin easily lost vasquez and set up cross court for a wide open 3 that cut the 6 point lead in half. casey didnt risk it this time around and sat calderon junior out when they needed to d up, good call!!!

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  28. Will

    I was at the game tonight and it was a blast. 2 and 0 vs. the Pacers at home this year. Woohoo! Almost everyone played great.

    I don’t know if you saw it on TV but everyone was cheering for Salmons when they got the double technicals. I don’t know what they were cheering for. I was thinking the same thing as Zarar. You’re just going to piss George off and get him fired up. Luckily he was gassed by the end of the game because he didn’t sit for the last quarter and a half. Why can’t we just have some Landry Fields?

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    • Guest

      Jack was calling it “poking the bear” on the telecast.

      But the reason I find it respectable is that this is a team that will face physical intimidation in the playoffs. A few signals that we won’t be disrespected (or ultimately lose) on our home court is fine with me.

      Paul George was 0/2 in the last 5 minutes of the game. He didn’t make us pay. It’s fine.

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      • Will

        Hey, I’m all for standing your ground. The thing is, it looked like Salmons started it. At least it did at the game without the benefit of a replay.

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      • Guest

        But even more, said Salmons, it showed that the Toronto Raptors won’t be pushed around. […]

        “We’re not going to back down from anybody, we’re not going to quit, we’re going to be there, we’re going to fight,” Salmons said.

        “Our leader (Kyle Lowry) hasn’t been playing the last two games, but we’re still fighting. … We’re definitely not going to back down, we’re going to continue to fight.”

        http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400490004

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  29. Guest

    I think the De Colo love-in here is a bit overblown. Our 3rd string PG had a 2nd string PG night. That’s great. But it wasn’t even one of the top 3 storylines in the game I watched. Not surprising if the Pacers didn’t plan for our 3rd string PG.

    I can’t believe I’m saying this – I’m with asifyouknow on this one.

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  30. Mexiballer

    I think Dwayne Casey deserves to start getting some serious credit. The
    idea that he cant develop young players should be put to rest. He brings
    them along slowly, maybe to slowly for most fans, but he is obviously
    teaching them a lot of the right things and giving them a foundation
    first, before throwing them out there every night to play big minutes. I will be the first to say… I dont think
    Dwayne Casey is going anywhere when his contract is up and will be resigned. He has done an outstanding job, flaws
    and all. He is still learning how to be a better game coach for sure. But he has gotten better as the season has gone on. I believe that Dwayne Casey is the main reason that the Raptors are in the position they are in.

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  31. tweed8

    Was in a bar tonight where most of the t.v.’s -including the giant screen- were dominated by the Jay’s game; No one was watching the Jay’s game and the only cheering was as the Rap’s were closing out the Pacers. It’s a small thing, but it felt good. Baby steps.

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    • Guest

      It was the Blue Jays home opener, which made it an especially big deal. Because of Tanaka (Yankee Starting Pitcher) Fox even broadcast the game live in Asia. I’m not sure that burn will continue to outshine the Raps.

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  32. Eunys

    If we had this team at the beginning of the season, we would have been 1st of the conference (not counting the very close games we lost)….the NBA should start considering and giving credit to the raptors. They keep talking about Roy Hibbert , Paul George and Lance Stephenson but Lowry, Demar and JV are having a better stats than those guys. Does not make sense!!!

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  33. Eunys

    One of the best game this season….especially without Leo Rautins comments…..Love Jack…Bacardiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

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  34. morgan c

    Zarar just throwing down the gauntlet re JV surpassing Hibbert… alright big man, let’s see it!

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