Toronto Raptors 102 Final
Recap | Box Score
98 Milwaukee Bucks
Patrick Patterson, PF 29 MIN | 2-9 FG | 2-2 FT | 5 REB | 1 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 7 PTS | +13

Stepped in for the injured Amir, but didn’t fill Amir’s shoes. Couldn’t hit much and couldn’t guard the paint.

Terrence Ross, SF 29 MIN | 2-9 FG | 2-2 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 8 PTS | +6

Not a game he’ll want to add to his resume. Couldn’t hit and couldn’t stop anyone on the other end,

Jonas Valanciunas, C 34 MIN | 7-11 FG | 3-5 FT | 13 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 17 PTS | +10

A beast who controlled the boards, especially when during crunch time. Still lots of work to do defensively, but at least he kept his fouls down.

Greivis Vasquez, PG 37 MIN | 10-15 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 4 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 26 PTS | +13

Might have given up as many points as he scored, but he kept the Raptors in this game.

DeMar DeRozan, SG 38 MIN | 7-19 FG | 9-10 FT | 2 REB | 5 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 23 PTS | +3

Didn’t have a great game, but came up big when it counted. Took way too many shots when he wasn’t hitting, but did pass the ball enough to get 5 assists.

Tyler Hansbrough, PF 14 MIN | 1-3 FG | 1-2 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 3 PTS | -6

Played sparingly and didn’t have much of an impact.

Chuck Hayes, PF 16 MIN | 0-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 0 PTS | -5

Played some crunch time minutes and grabbed a few boards. Other than that, not much of a factor.

John Salmons, SF 20 MIN | 3-7 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 9 PTS | -6

One of his better games lately, but still struggled shooting. Did have a decent game defensively.

Steve Novak, SF 3 MIN | 1-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -6

He hit a shot when Adrien inconceivably stepped away from him when he had the ball 15 feet away from the basket. That is all.

Nando de Colo, PG 19 MIN | 3-4 FG | 1-1 FT | 2 REB | 6 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 7 PTS | -2

Played well in a point guard role and may be showing enough to have the Raptors show Vasquez the door at the end of the season.

Dwane Casey

The teams poor overall play wasn’t all his fault.

Three Things We Saw

  1. Valanciunas continues to play far more like the guy we expected to see before the season started than the guy who started the season. The Bucks didn’t have an answer for him inside and his rebounding, which was okay at the start of the season, has become excellent.
  2. Since watching the Bucks tends to be a painful exercise, I haven’t watched a whole lot of Antetokounmpo and was looking forward to see more of the Greek Freak, but he was a non-entity.
  3. With both Chicago and Brooklyn winning their games, the Raptors’ loss, especially against a team they should have beat, would have been a big setback with so little time left and so little room between the teams in the standings.

  • asifyouknow

    Be honest! How much GREEEEAAAAVYYYY DID YOU PUT ON YOUR YOLO BURGER TONIGHT…lol..

    That is the game, when he gets big minutes. When he gets 30 plus minutes in Toronto his average is over 18ppg.

    Enough said.

    The Fish did good, I seen a board where he was getting called every name in the book but thought he did well.

    Mini MJ (DeMar)stepped up in the fourth quarter. I love this guy , when he gets pissed off you can’t stop him. He would look good as Mano’s replacement..lol…lol…

    This was a grind, I’m still wishing for one dam game where my blood pressure doesn’t spike up. Just one win by 25 please.

    Good game by all, no complains. It will be good to have Amir and Patterson back in game shape. Those injuries are going to be a blessing for this team, it got everybody playing.

    Where in the hell is Landry fields Mr. Casey?

    (Side note: Spurs thank you for a 6’11” forward who can hit a three…lol..I won’t mention the name…)

    • Quest

      how is daye doing anyway? it would be nice if the trade worked out both ways

    • JRedmond14

      Greivis Vasquez: 26 points scored, 50 points allowed

      • jvbetter

        He was +13.

        • JRedmond14

          Doesn’t mean he didn’t allow the points….

          • grgo

            How many points did he allow ?

            • JRedmond14

              no idea. All i am saying is his defense was awful. If he is your starting PG the nights he is not hitting those shots you lose because you can’t win on the defensive end.

              • Ogi

                I donno he was shooting like 25% against indiana and houston

              • Steverino

                This just in: He’s not your starting PG. So why not just stick to the facts. He’s a fantastic backup, though. Hypotheticals are useless. It’s like saying, “If JV were 28, he’d be horrible.”

                • JRedmond14

                  This just in: He was tonight and he will be the nights Lowry is injured. Would the Raps have won tonight if he didn’t hit his shots? No. Could the Raps have won if he was missing his shots but he was playing a speck of defense? Yes

                • Steverino

                  You’re hilarious! Would they have won if he didn’t hit his shots? Well guess what? He did hit his shots. So it’s moot. Unbelievable! Then if he had played a speck of defense and they lost you would have said they could have won if he had just hit his shots. Geez, a guy gets killed for doing something he might not have done in your imaginary scenario.

                • JRedmond14

                  you are right Vasquez and defense is an imaginary scenario

                • Steverino

                  Maybe, but Vasquez and not hitting shots was the scenario you laid out. If he didn’t hit his shots (which he did), they might have lost. Then again, they might not have. It’s hard to tell since crystal balls aren’t real.

            • asifyouknow

              99

          • grgo

            It means with him in the game the team was up 13 point differential (incl +- when he wasn’t in game).

            • JRedmond14

              I understand that. If you are guarding someone and they drop fifty on you then your lineup would need to score 63 to have a +13. Again, doesn’t mean he didn’t allow the points…..

            • Jerry Garcia

              Welcome De Colo….we all thank you !! You have made yourself a part of our team. ! I look forward to watching you compete in the PLAYOFFS !!! Baby…oh yeah !!

          • Steverino

            Yes, actually, it does mean that. If he allowed 50, his teammates on the floor with him would have had to score a lot more than his 26 for him to be +13.

            • JRedmond14

              I pulled the number 50 out of my ass. Does 42 cut it for you? 41, maybe?

              • asifyouknow

                99 and I’m sticking to that!!! lol Son there is no crime in being an idiot. I’ll pray for you…lol

              • Steverino

                Clearly. We all know where that number came from. And 42 is just as stinky and ridiculous. And Vasquez was +7 yesterday against a team whose win percentage was .688. What else you got?

                • JRedmond14

                  Great win last night with Lowry and Johnson out. Vasquez played much better last night than he did tonight. I just don’t understand why defense is like a on/off switch for him? Defense should be consistent no matter who you are playing. Just comes down to effort, which I didn’t see on both ends

                • Maahfaace

                  +/- really has no bearing on how he did individually on defense, he was terrible and knight had his way with him literally breaking him off the dribble on every possession. Its why there was so many rotations to help stop penetration, leading to way to many easy buckets. That said, vasquez is pretty solid at running a team on offense.

                • Steverino

                  You’re right. It’s a team stat. And even at that, it’s a stat you don’t understand. Not saying his defence was good, bad, or otherwise. Just saying that he didn’t give up 50 points if he was a +13. Impossible. Or even 42. And let’s for a second imagine it was possible, and he did give up 50. The Raptors still won in large part to him.

                • Maahfaace

                  i understand the stat just fine, what you dont seem to understand is your ability to recognize a poor defensive game from the point of attack.Vasquez was terribe on defense tonight, to state anything otherwise just illustrates your lack of knowledge for the game. Once again, the +/- stat does not reflect how a player plays individual defense…..not sure why this concept is lost on you.

                • Steverino

                  No, no, I get it. I’ve never said he’s a good defensive player. Just that he is what he is. He’s not athletic at all. That’s no reason to fault the guy. I only fault players who are lazy and don’t care or are out for themselves or have the potential to be much better but aren’t. I actually think he plays to his full capability. If they had lost because of his defence, I’d be right with you. But I don’t really see the need to harp on his defence when 1) he scored 26 points, which is damn hard to get in this league, and 2) the Raptors won. It just seems the guy can’t win. People just want to hate him.

            • jvbetter

              Thasnks exactly my point was he was +13 so pt differential was good with him on floor, it’s a positive sign.

              • JRedmond14

                probably -19 against a team who’s win percentage is over .182

          • asifyouknow

            No the haters have their own math…1+1+1= 323 in their book of rules…lol

        • Musik

          If de colo had vasquez ‘s minutes he could probably have similar numbers on offense but he has the speed to defend on defense.

          • asifyouknow

            Oh my dear God please don’t dig yourselves a deeper hole…

      • Ogi

        The entire team played bad d

        • JRedmond14

          I thought Valanciunas showed at least some fight on D. Most guys were just catching there breath for offense which is the opposite of what should happen

          • Ogi

            That’s true, val was putting up a good effort on both ends

            • JRedmond14

              and De Colo forgot him

      • asifyouknow

        You are absolutely wrong he allowed 99 points I see them all….?

        • JRedmond14

          Your probably right. The amount of time he allowed straight line drives and someone had to help his man easily could have passed to the unguarded big. So 99 sounds fair to me

          • asifyouknow

            actually I was wrong 132 he saved something for the next game.
            Facts are all the games he has started for Toronto have been wins, those are facts. so I don’t know what your beef is:
            See if there anything about this statement you don’t understand:
            Before the trade YOU WERE LOSERS after the trade YOU ARE WINNERS.
            EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT BUT SOME OF YOUR BUDDIES ON THIS BOARD.
            IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT?
            Enough said
            LMAO

            • Ogi

              All people are saying is that his defense isn’t the best. I don’t understand why you take it so personally.

              • Steverino

                It’s the way they say it, Ogi. Words like ‘pylon’ and discounting 26 points saying he gave up 50 are not exactly neutral. They’re loaded. I agree his defence isn’t the best. But so what? He is what he is. DD isn’t a good defender, either. In fact, it could be argued he’s an even worse defender given his superior athletic ability.

                • Ogi

                  Fair enough, I agree people bash him a bit too much on here. I think as far as a backup pg goes he’s great. But asifyouknow just takes the praise to a completely unrealistic level.

                • Steverino

                  Right, but asifyouknow shouldn’t affect your opinion of him. Have an independent noggin.

                • Ogi

                  It’s pretty obvious he doesn’t affect my opinion of vasquez.. What?

                • JRedmond14

                  I am in a Vasquez hating mood. Sometimes I love him and sometimes I despise him. His defense was laugh worthy tonight

                • Steverino

                  Obviously the Bucks defence must have been gut-bustingly hilarious because they allowed the slow Vasquez to score 26 points. How does that happen?

                • JRedmond14

                  6 threes. All drive and kicks. 18 points. Bucks are awful at defending the 3

                • Steverino

                  Oh, okay. So total fluke, in other words. I see. Ray Allen sucks, too, when he stands out there hitting 3’s. No credit whatsoever because, you know, if he had missed them, they might have lost.

            • JRedmond14

              Incase you missed it we were facing the MILWAUKEE BUCKS tonight. a team with a win percentage of .182. Let that sink for a second……. See if there is anything about this statement you don’t understand: VASQUEZ is not the reason we are winning

            • FLUXLAND

              What did they win, these WINNERS?

  • Justin Hamilton

    The question needs to be asked “Is Kyle Lowry really that important to this team and is this why Masai has not resigned him yet?” Great game! Go Raps!

    • Justin Hamilton

      Not saying that I don’t think he is but its something we should at least consider.

      • Ogi

        I think as soon as it’s considered the answer is obviously that yes, he’s very important

      • Mexiballer

        Why?

    • Quest

      liewike said they are going to re-sign him

    • Paul

      Yes he is that important..
      Statistically and based on the eyeball test this team owes more wins to Lowry than any other player.

    • Roarque

      Trust me Justin, that question does NOT need to be asked. Lowry is a two way PG and there are very few of them in the NBA.

  • Ryan

    First!

    • BallerShotCaller

      You are not first! Hahahahaha. Don’t do that again.

      • Junior Qamar

        Last

      • Ryan

        What happened? Why did you take that away from me?

  • Balls Deep

    Alright let’s be real, who else shat a brick during the black out

    • jakdripr

      Funny part was I thought it was just my stream, so I go check the boards and everyone is cursing and my first reaction is “oh shit we messed up the inbounds play again”, then I realized everyone was facing the same issue as me.

      • noname

        LOOOOL when my stream blacked out I was cursing too, i had to check the game companion on nba.com. I thought for sure we would screw up. But my stream doesn’t have chat boards, so which one are you using?

        • jakdripr

          Oh I went to the realgm chat boards. I usually go there whenever I can’t find a good stream as they have really….. colourful play by plays.

          • noname

            really, is the stream decent quality with no lag?

            • jakdripr

              Oh no, the streams I use are REALLY shitty, like sometimes I can’t even tell if the ball went in, I usually rely on the player reaction to tell. And don’t get me started on the pop ups.

              • noname

                damn…cuz i’m using firstrowsports (google it) and it’s decent but that’s mainly because i have adblock so i don’t see popups. but ya sometimes i have to look at the player reaction or listen to the commentator to know if it went in (unless i find a rare good link or if it was a swish)

    • GoingBig

      DING!!
      Screw you sports fans, we have to show our sportscasters’ hair – on time – and show 2 hour-old news about the Maple Leafs losing.

  • Balls Deep

    How the hell is Vasquez not an A literally for all the bricks Demar had and trust me he was trying to build a house out there, Vasquez kept us in this

    • asifyouknow

      Most of the writers on this site are in the Vaz haters club. No idea why but they just don’t like thee guy . Must be an ethnic thing.

      • Boner Patrol

        Oh shut the f*ck up already. Ethnic thing? Are you serious?! Ban this clown

        • Steverino

          It’s not an ethnic thing. Vasquez is Venezuelan. Calderon was Spanish. Bargnani was Italian. See, completely different ethnicities. Fans here are discerning.

          • asifyouknow

            What in the world are you talking about?

            • Steverino

              It’s called sarcasm, asifyouknow. I’m on your side.

        • asifyouknow

          Bann the clown …wow very democratic of you..lol….are you a communist?

      • Feather Ruffler

        I’ve always thought you were a bit annoying, but you’ve made a few valid points. The fact that you just used the word “ethnic” on a basketball teams fan site tells me just how big of an idiot you are, Jesus, I think Tim W is a cynical douche, but to throw him and the rest of the RR writers under the bus because you don’t have enough of a grasp of the English language to articulate your opinion??? What a joke.

        • Jerry Garcia

          Our ethnic thing is one of our attributes….embrace it. Or become irrelevant.

          • Feather Ruffler

            The fact that someone actually used that as a justification for such a ridiculous opinion…I’m at a loss for words.

        • asifyouknow

          I have zero idea of what you are talking about….You are making stuff up. The ethnic thing is not about them is about Vaz ..maybe they don’t like where he comes from. That is the reality of life. They guy just bailed Toronto’s ass out the last three games and many of you still think the guy is a bum. There is something wrong with that.
          Is all I’m saying.

          • JRedmond14

            Several people are not fans of Vasquez. Does that make us all rascists? Don’t try and justify your comment. You are just coming off as plain stupid.

            • asifyouknow

              I have never said that …you said that…you said that… I never mentioned racism …you make that up…

              • Abused Raptors Fan

                You said, and I quote “maybe they just don’t like where he’s from.” That statement implies that the RR writers are passing judgment upon Vasquez on the basis of his nationality. Generally, that’s interpreted as racism when used in reference to a non-caucasian nation.

                • JRedmond14

                  The grave he dug wasn’t big enough for him and his Vasquez blowup doll, so he had to keep digging himself a bigger hole haha

                • asifyouknow

                  You implied that the world is flat so you got not credibility..

                • Abused Raptors Fan

                  Right… I can see where you’d get that from…

          • Feather Ruffler

            I’m sorry but if you think the writers on this site are criticizing him for where he comes from rather than his in-game performance you’re the one that has a racial bias. And I’m actually a fan of Vasquez, he plays for the team that I love and I think he’s a clutch player on offense (though he makes some questionable decisions). Being a fan of a player doesn’t mean you have to think he’s the best player game in and game out. I’ll agree with you that i think he won us this game, but the last three games? No. It has been a team effort with MULTIPLE players contributing to solid wins.

            • asifyouknow

              Again I’m done explaining to you guys what it meant, you did this with the religious theme the other day, you all like a dog with a bone, you don’t want let it go so you make up stuff to keep it going..

              • Feather Ruffler

                What?

      • JRedmond14

        Toronto would be a real hard city to live in if this were an ethnic thing. What a stupid comment

        • asifyouknow

          I deleted the comment because it was misunderstood and there is no making you understand the statement…lol..You want to be in your own reality..

          • JRedmond14

            “Most of the writers on this site are in the Vaz haters club. No idea why but they just don’t like thee guy . Must be an ethnic thing.” -@asifyouknow:disqus

            That is what you said. In the context you said it in, you are saying we don’t like the way Vasquez plays basketball because he is from Venezuela. Explain to me what I am not clear on? Sorry if I am able to separate where someone is from and their basketball abilities. You should try working on it sometimes

    • CJT

      Thought he did a great job running the team, shooting was awesome and clutch. Was eaten up on D, but both Sessions and Knight had their way with everyone it seemed.

  • RAPTAWRS

    I know it’s supposed to be a “quick” reaction and everything.. but there really isn’t much effort put into any analysis. Are you in a hurry Tim W.?

    • jjdynomite

      Timmy the Freak had a much longer analysis prepared in the event of an “inevitable” Raptors loss but had to rip up his notes.

      Of course, the fucktard hater did not consider that it was still an accomplishment to beat a team while playing:
      1. A second game of a back-to-back after a hugely emotional win against a top contender
      2. An away game after travelling the night before
      3. Missing two of their 3 best players
      4. Playing a team that’s better than their record suggests as they shored up their interior (Adrien) and perimiter (Sessions) scoring
      5. The natural ebb-and-flow of a long season, where at least the Raps HAVE been pulling out the vast majority of games against scrub teams; if Timmy was a Pacers fan now he’d be stabbing himself with a dinner fork

      So to Timmy the douchebag, here’s your quick analysis: “The Toronto Raptors — the team you picked to suck in perpetuity unless they selected top 3 in the 2014 draft — are 13 games above .500, can easily set the franchise record for most wins in a season, and have a bright future. Now go eat crow for breakfast.”

  • Quest

    looking at the stats, our bench sorely missed gv and ppatt. all of our starters had a positive +/- and the bench was all negative. hopefully amir and klow are back by wednesday!

  • Carbonic

    Tim W. is back?!?!?

  • Paul

    I’m thinking someone dropped the ball on the recap and Tim just filled in. Not up to RR’s usually excellent standards. Still, it beats reading Doug Smith’s recap…

    • Junior Qamar

      I miss tim w

      • Paul

        If nothing else, he was consistent.
        Even after the team moved up to third in the conference he was still beating the tank drum.
        The rest of us fickle fans did the flip flop and decided a shot at the conference finals was better than another trip to lottery land, but not Tim.

        • jjdynomite

          Um, please speak for yourself. Many fans soon saw the cultural and on-the-court sea change that swiftly took place after the Kings trade and revised their team expectations upward accordingly. How could we not after watching iso-ball Gay shit the bed and destroy team chemistry night after night?

          So in actuality the real idiots are not the “fickle fans” but stick-in-the-mud douchebags like Tim, who apparently has not yet assimilated what the definition of insanity is.

          • nutcup

            Not only did we see the change in the team but when we pointed it out and were happy that we were winning, this douchebag ran us down and then when he couldn’t stop us from standing for the team and enjoying the winning he would ban people. Tim W. is a large douchebag that should never be allowed to write on this page ever.

            • Guest

              Are you replying to yourself? I click nutcup and jjdynomite and it’s the same profile..hmmmm… sad.

              • jjdynomite

                Nope.

              • nutcup

                I am Raptorstand until they threw me out . Your so full of shit Fuxturd your trolling is a joke. But hey I expect nothing less from the Fuxtard.. hmmmm……sad.

          • Paul

            Your argument just reiterated exactly what I said and then added a part about fickle fans being idiots… Congratulations, you just failed your LSAT

            • jjdynomite

              I’d look up the definition of “fickle”, then, buddy, because your usage is a real stretch — unless you meant it as a point of sarcasm, which doesn’t go over cleanly on the interwebs.

              So congratulations, you just failed your GRE — the correct exam for grammar and syntax. But I guess logic isn’t your strong suit since you also failed the LSAT.

    • General Vasquez

      Weak recap by a weak fan

  • jvfan

    What happened to the broadcast at end of game. Someone sleeping at Sportsnet? Typical.

  • Will

    JV was awesome tonight. Vasquez carried us early. Glad to see Salmons hit his open threes but then he tried to do a little too much. Like everyone else, I’d love to see a comfortable win, never mind a blowout. I’ve come to realize though that easy wins only come to elite teams. Brooklyn only beat Philly by 4 today.

  • JRedmond14

    JV A-? Like what didn’t that animal do tonight? Continues to impress!

    • Will

      Look at who’s doing the recap.

      • DR

        I looked at the grades, all of which looked lower than usual and average and I thought “Yup, Tim W. has crawled out of his cave”

  • Rapsfan

    Felt good tonight not being the 14 50 team n trying to spoil the playoff teams seeding. Had a big smile on my face when I thought about that

    • tonious35

      And also not to be bitching when your player puts up a triple double and you lose some percentage to the top pick in a tank-a-thon, and still worry what your GM will still do to screw things up the next season. Glad we can laugh about those times this year.

  • leftovercrack

    The Bucks are bad, really bad, but the Raps were beaten up and tired at the end of a back to back and missing Lowry and Amir, so I’ll take the win

    • Guest

      I’ll take it too, but those aren’t excuses as the Bucks were on a back-to-back as well, coming off a reasonably close game against The Bulls at United Center, and only dressed 8 players due to injury, so if anyone had an excuse to lay poorly it was Milwaukee.

      • Steverino

        What?! The mighty Bulls allowed the Bucks to hang around?! They must be frauds!… Oh, what? That only matters when the Raptors let bad teams hang around?

        • Guest

          I didn’t say hang around, Bulls were up 20 after 3, then let the Bucks go +8 in the 4th after the game was out of reach. However, when a 4th seed plays the worst team in the league I consider a 12-point victory reasonably close. When a 3rd seed plays the worst team in the league and has to scratch and claw their way to a 4-point victory down to the final seconds I think the 4th place team is playing better than the 3rd place team right now, that’s all. FWIW, I think the 3rd place team is playing better than the 2nd place team right now (Indy).

          • Steverino

            I don’t think you can look at individual games like that. As I mentioned, the Bucks went into overtime in Portland last week. It’s the NBA. On any given night, and all that. Yes, I also think the Bulls are playing better, but the result is the same: a W. Once the playoffs come, it’s a whole new ball game, as they say. Why fret? There’s even an argument to be made that the close games the Raptors are winning will serve them well in the playoffs where things traditionally get tight. They’ve won close games.

            • Guest

              i try not to fret, I agree the playoffs are a whole new ball game and depending on the matchup they should be competitive. I just hope they start playing at a high level more consistently going into the playoffs. I think you throw the season records out the window at this point, based on how teams in the East are playing now I’d rank Chicago right with Miami, then the Raps, Brooklyn and Indy. Look at what Kentucky’s done, they were so inconsistent through most of the season and given their overall season they got an 8 seed, but going into March Madness they should have had better than an 8 seed given their recent performance.

  • fuck tim w

    bs gradings vasquez should be a A+!!

    • JRedmond14

      His defense was awesome tonight. Very Pylon like!

      • Steverino

        Pylon-like! The only players who scored over their season averages were the forwards, Adrian, Middleton and Henson. Sessions was a point over his average and Knight was under. You guys kills me. Nothing is ever good enough. A guy scores 26, but oh, his defence sucked. A guy’s good defensively but oh, he can’t shoot. Bottom line, they got the W and wouldn’t have without Vasquez.

        • JRedmond14

          Vasquez was merely a traffic cone on defense showing Knight the lane to go forward

          • Steverino

            And… they won. Just like they won against the Pacers. Why don’t you see how bad everyone gets beat in the NBA, not just the guys you don’t like.

            • JRedmond14

              Most guys in the NBA actually work to get beat. Vasquez just kind of watches them go by

              • Steverino

                He’s not very athletic. It’s not like he’s just lazy. He just can’t physically do it. You’re acting like he’s just standing around because he couldn’t be bothered playing good defence. I love seeing guys with less talent excel in the league. It’s amazing these great athletes guarding him can’t stop him from getting 26. Why no mention of that?

        • CJT

          I agree with your sentiment about the reactionary nature of RR, but the PG’s blew by and set up Middleton, Henson and Adrian for easy lay ups and dunks all night. PG is obviously on of the hardest positions to guard.

        • johng_3

          He did keep us in the game but his size and lack of quickness to keep up with the smaller guards limits him of defensively. He is better when Lowry and him play together.

        • Guest

          Your defence of Vaz’s defence proves you know nothing of basketball. Maybe their bigs scored a lot cause the guards got beat so our bigs left their bigs to help our gaurds. You know. That whole 5 person team game component of sports.

          • Steverino

            Nothing? That’s a little harsh. I know quite a bit, actually. I also know that he can’t win: If his guy goes off, it’s on him. If the bigs go off, it’s on him. Your argument is fault-proof.

  • Raps

    I actually enjoy your writing here at RR. I may not agree with it most of the time, but your work from a while back was insightful. Shame on the people that bash on you just because they don’t agree with your opinions…

    • Steverino

      I’d never read his writing until today and it was lacking. One or two sentences per entry, not deep and not particularly well crafted.

    • jjdynomite

      Why should RR readers respect UNINFORMED opinions? This “quick so-called reaction” was a load of steaming crap, and with his consistently dour and condescending attitude I feel sorry for anyone who has to be consistently exposed to TimmyWack, both in real life and virtually on a Raptors fan site. I almost think Zarar purposely assigned TimmyWeak to write this garbage just to tweak us, since a number of commenters were bashing him just yesterday.

  • leftovercrack

    If the Raps win 3 of their last 5 games they will finish the season with the most wins in franchise history? A guy told me this. Is it true?

    • Will

      Yeah, they’re already at 45 and 47 is the record.

      • leftovercrack

        Wonderful season! Mazaltov Raps

    • Will

      On a side note, I read an article earlier that said in Tim Duncan’s 17 years in the league, the Spurs have only had fewer than 50 wins once, and that was in the previous lockout shortened year when the schedule was reduced to only 50 games. However, if you took their record that year and projected it for an 82 game season, they would’ve had 61. That’s crazy! Must be nice to be a Spurs fan.

      • Tanks-a-lot

        Popovich will retire not too long after Duncan retires.

  • Steverino

    Wow, what a positive write-up! And I love this to end it: “With both Chicago and Brooklyn winning their games, the Raptors’ loss, especially against a team they should have beat, would have been a big setback…” Uh, yeah, but it was a win so why is this in the notes? No mention that the powerful Nets beat the Sixers by the same margin? You know, these bad teams aren’t bad because they get blown out every game; they’re bad because they can’t close. The Bucks lost in overtime on the road in Portland a couple weeks ago. It’s no knock on a team when they win but it’s not a blowout.

    • Guest

      +1 Million.

      Not even mention of the context of the game either – with missing starters, it being a back to back, it being an away game, etc.
      Before this game people were whining that this would be a “trap” game we would lose. But even when we win, it’s still not good enough. You can bet that if it had been a blowout, those same people would have discounted it because of the quality of the Bucks’ team. smdh

      • Milesboyer

        Can’t use the missing starters argument because the Bucks were missing at least 3 starters.

        • Guest

          Or 5? :)

          The point is that we should be enjoying a win rather than before, during and after finding ways to be _only_ negative about the team. And if you’re going to be negative, lets also give some credit where it’s due.

      • Bendit

        One more….something not noticed often…and I can understand the Raps have not experienced this often in its history…they were coming off an emotional high beating the Pacers the previous night…and as DC mentioned the team is now the hunted and beating them is a bit of a milestone for teams like the Bucks. Never thought I would have thought that beginning of the year.

    • Guest

      Agree i always love the quick reaction but this write up was complete garbage

  • asifyouknow

    Tim W I hope you got a day job bagging groceries or maybe milking Moose’s or Bears in the Canadian woods. lol

    That comment on Vasquez was the most idiotic thing I’ve ever seen. I like to call you a certified Idiot but that just would not be proper.

    A journeyman who won’t even be on the league in a year is going to be better than Vaz, are you fkinnng kidding me?

    Come on guy level with me, is late Saturday:

    Do you drink or smoke moose tail?

    Are you high or drunk right now?

    Don’t drive drunk please.

    • JRedmond14

      What is so compelling about Vasquez that makes him you favourite player???

      • Boner Patrol

        The sight of GV’s ‘handsome’ face makes his wee-wee stand up

        • asifyouknow

          You see now I know your a 2 year old…should you be up this late

          • Boner Patrol

            Dude, you’re the one that called him handsome. Not me. I’m just pointing out the facts

        • #TankNation

          Sounds about right..

      • Guest

        To quote his/her comment elsewhere on the page, “it must be an ethnic thing”.

      • Steverino

        Don’t let his affection for the guy dictate how you feel about him. People tend to get their backs up when someone is so over-the-top one way. It tends to make us go in the other direction. But Vasquez is a very good player regardless of the lovers or haters.

    • Ogi

      “Tim W I hope you got a day job bagging groceries or maybe milking Moose’s or Bears in the Canadian woods. lol”
      You just can’t start a post with this sentence and then call someone else an idiot.

      • JRedmond14

        I think he is trying to insult Canadians but can’t tell?!?!

        • Ogi

          Lol. I like Vasquez but this guy needs to calm down.

        • asifyouknow

          Now you want to make up your own reality …..

      • asifyouknow

        Actually I can and I did..lol

        • Ogi

          Yeah.. you did.. and it made you look stupid… again..

        • Abused Raptors Fan

          And people wonder why people are always so genial when replying to your comments! Just another example of American exceptionalism

          • asifyouknow

            Het read my last post..I’m sure it will make you happy. See you…lol

    • Feather Ruffler

      How is a player that has been on the same team for two years and traded to another, considered a journeyman exactly? I’m just curious.

      • Abused Raptors Fan

        I think he meant it as an indictment against de Colo’s talent level, but still failed to use the term correctly.

        • Feather Ruffler

          I figured it was something along those lines. It was just a bit funny to me that Vasquez has been on four different teams in four years, which is the absolute definition of a “journeyman”.

  • Roarque

    Good to see some TimW content on RR. Tim, you’ve been reading my mind based on your comments. DeColo has not held my attention until now as I kept assuming that if the Spurs traded him then he was one step away from being out of the league. That was as a bad an assumption as the one I made about the “junk” we got back for Rudy. Wrong again. Ujiri doesn’t just trade for anyone to get rid of a liability, he mines talent along the way. Patterson has been very helpful as a bench player and Vasquez is also a good backup – that is he was until Nando showed up. I really like this guy because he plays both ends of the floor and in the true Casey mold, he actually plays D better than O.

    • Boner Patrol

      Tim W also thought we got a bunch of crap back for Rudy. I remember him going on about how he didn’t like Patterson, and we got a weak return. I’m so glad he comes and blesses us with his valuable basketball insight that’s always accurate. 😐 stop washing his balls

      • Roarque

        Good memory, BP. What does that cost you in lost friends?

        • Boner Patrol

          Umm. 1 internet friend..? I guess?

          • Roarque

            Not yet, but don’t push your luck, Bones.

    • GoingBig

      There is a truism that the winner of a trade is the team that received the most talented player. It’s a pretty good rule of thumb. It clarifies all the what-ifs about the future values of players.

      But Masai got back something in the Rudy trade unforeseen by most and by the Kings – a bench. More abstract but very essential to improving a team. It would also force TRoss, DD, and JV to be played – development for the future. That’s why Lowry was on the block as well – part of a normal re-building process.

      But the post-trade team chemistry happened with the bench being a power and DD and Ross delivering on improvements. That chemistry took the decisions out of the hands of Masai and TimW. As the Pacers show, team chemistry is a real asset as strong as a first round pick.

      When the Raps were at 6-12, TimW’s discussions were accurate and useful when you have to think of players as solitary pieces and long term value. Players are easier to measure but more abstract things like team chemistry, bench power, and development can undo all of that.

      With respect to Lowry’s departure, DD, TRoss, and JV’s development allows other PG’s to be plugged in. An advantage in the off-season movements – Hey elite PG, we can just plug you in.

      • Roarque

        Agreed, “GoingBig”. I trust you also appreciate TimW.

    • Guest

      If you assumed we got junk back you clearly know nothing of basketball. That trade was obviously sick from the beginning. 4 useful, interchangeable pieces are junk? How long have you even been watching ball?

      • Roarque

        Can you read English? Try again, this time do it slowwwwly. Okay, now THINK about the sentence structure. Apologies accepted.

  • FREEJV

    THE WEATHER CHANNEL > SPORTSNET . FUCK YOU AND YOUR HOCKEY SPORTSNET!

    • JRedmond14

      Swiss Chalet Rotisserie Channel > Sportsnet. Don’t underestimate the shitiness of sportsnet

      • GetLicks

        Don’t you dare diss Swiss Chalet…

    • jjdynomite

      Don’t worry FREEJV, with Rogers “winning” the NHL package for perpetuity we’ll be getting a lot more of Jack next season on TSN — and games that are also televised to completion. And Rod Black.

      • noname

        that last part’s a dealbreaker…

  • Roarque

    Tim, who would you prefer as the backup pf next year 2Pat or Ed Davis?

  • Will

    Doesn’t anyone have anything to say about the team or the game? It seems like recently all the posts are about rubbing it in Tim W’s face or making fun of asifyouknow’s love for Vasquez.

    • Abused Raptors Fan

      Both of them bring it on themselves

      • GetLicks
      • Will

        I know but why do we bother even bringing them up or replying? Tim had all but left before this recap, and asifyouknow is clearly not going to change how he feels. At first, I’m sure it’s fun to try and debate with them. But after a while, isn’t it just pointless?

        • Abused Raptors Fan

          Lol. I try to stay away from basketball discussions with people like that for that exact reason.

        • jjdynomite

          I don’t mind asifyouknow because he is often just reacting to commenters — and douchebag “writers” like TimW — who go overboard dissing his favourite player. But I agree that stumping for a single player over a whole team effort game-after-game gets pretty tiring (cough, FREEJV, cough).

          My invective is reserved for trolls like TimW and FLUXtard.

          • FLUXLAND

            He who angers you, controls you. : )

  • Mack

    Leo Rautins analysis in a nutshell: “The difference between Middleton shooting a contested jumpshot and Knight shooting an uncontested one is one doesn’t go in and one does.” Lol please gtfo

    • tonious35

      That saying is still engraved in my skull. Total LMAO…

    • cdub

      I liked when he informed the audience that the Raptors had a chance to come back down 9 to Milwaukee at the end of the half. It was classic.

  • Feather Ruffler

    How can someone who goes 10-15 overall and 6-8 from three point range get a B+? That’s just ridiculous.

    • Tanks-a-lot

      0-0 free throws
      only 4 assists
      no defense

      • Feather Ruffler

        0-0 free throws – He’s averaged 1.4 FTA a game for his career…what’s you point?
        Only 4 assists – He was playing off the ball for a significant amount of time so semi understandable
        No defense – Duh
        He was solid this game and was probably the reason the Raps came away with a win. He deserved an A tonight.

  • asifyouknow

    Well good night I had my fun for the night’
    Great win, from March 30 th to today this boys have played 5 grind types games. I have no idea how they do it, but this guys are hard ass Marine types, they just keep on fighting.
    Vaz in the last five games has a 15 pts a game avg, a scorching 54% from 3 and 46% from the field, hitting big shots and making winning plays, I smell a big contract coming, just a great starting NBA PG. An NBA analyst on television said it was like having two starting PG, and I agree, Toronto is very lucky.
    Three days rest, and then an easy stretch. Amir and Lowry should be back and Patterson should be in better game shape by them.

    • Ogi

      You know what man? You’re great

    • JRedmond14

      You attracted to the “hardass Marine types” as well there @asifyouknow:disqus?

      • Abused Raptors Fan

        When you spend as much time with your nose placed firmly between a basketball player’s sweaty ass crack as he does, I’m sure just about everything else becomes pretty attractive in comparison

  • Guest

    The people on this site remain overwhelmingly fickle.

    I say another win in the W column with two starters out on the second night of a back to back on the road.

    I don’t care if they win by 1 or 20. I don’t care today, and I won’t care in the playoffs. Just win.

    Keep it coming boys!

  • ih8vasquez

    Come on I hate vasquez too but he deserved an A

  • Eunys

    Terrence Ross is really inconsistant !!! do not get it..the guy is sometimes just sleeping and lost on the floor! and where the hell is landry fields?

    • noname

      your spelling is inconsistent…

      • Eunys

        I admit !

  • ace5950

    Sportsnet is friggin horrible…

  • asifyouknow

    Actually I’m sure you are happy to learn this is my last night on the board. Indy car racing and NASCAR are in in full force so I have to get back to my racing blogs.

    Juan Pablo Montoya is my favorite driver ….go figure..lol..Kyle Busch is my favorite NASCAR driver and Ferrari all the way in F1.

    Loved the Canadian Gillis Villeneuve a class act and very fast, not a fan of his son who came into NASCAR and YOLO everybody..lol…by wrecking everyone on site.
    He is not a popular guy in NASCAR nation.
    Will be in and out once in a while I had fun see you…
    Adios amigos…

    • GoingBig

      Made it lively around here.
      F1 2013 video racing sim – I’ve got to pull out my fancy racing wheel to get simming in Bahrain – a full season’s in front of me.

      • asifyouknow

        Thanks …Before I die my dream is to go see Monaco GP…..from a 60 foot yacht…lol

    • Rapchat

      Dont go!!!

    • FLUXLAND

      I understand my brother.

      Vaya con dios, No te extranaremos.

  • ace5950

    Vasquez is a really good back up pg, I don’t get why so many people don’t like the guy. Sure his defence isn’t great but the guy does pull through when need be and he’s going to be a key player come playoff time. And if you watched any of the post game interviews it seems like everyone is fine with Vasquez doing the things he does.

  • tonious35

    Here is one trait (exception to youth) that makes Vasquez better than Calderon within this team collective. I feel he supports and backs up fierce competitors like Lowry, encouraging all the other players and the fans to swag their way through mistakes and stick it through the end. It felt that Calderon (still we all love him so much) himself tried to be so different and the polar opposite of Lowry and TJ Tord, it felt like you must choose from one and the other. With Lowry and Vasquez walking down the court together, still being completely different players, they seem like they both want to walk the same way and enjoy doing it.

  • tonious35

    Sportsnet cutting off the final 1 minute of the game to go into a report that the Maple Laughs lost…pffft.

  • tonious35

    Good to see Tim W. back at the moment. He, like all of us, were extremely conflicted with the Raps’ stability and future direction. I wanted Wiggins too, REALLY, I MEANT IT that time. During December and January, we were just reeling off wins from opponents that looked like we have no business taking away from and still feeling like our roster is simply not elite yet. I do feel our Talent level and coaching is not at all elite to Durant, Lebron, Curry&Thompson, Thibideau, Pop, Spolestra, and PG-LS-RoyH combo. the draft seemed like the only answer. Now we are finding out more than that. TimL and Masai understand that running a winning culture is not only about making trades, drafting, and coaching, it’s also about showing to the players that the execs and managers will get their hands dirty with them and find more people that will get into the action at their style.

    The big thing that exploded in our faces, as a fan-base, was that the chemistry and internal development, reinforced by Masai and Casey after the Rudy Trade, affected not just 2 or 3 key players, but ALL of the players to positive results, including Landry and Novak. Veteran leadership, bench talent, and BBall IQ + character. Now the De Colo trade looks like an effective stroke of strategy depth due to Lowry getting a bit banged up and now we can rest him in the final stretch with tanking teams (NYK is exception). So for Masai this season he has more than a few options that he can interchange any player he wants on the roster this Summer, and he has a 2014 pick, OBJECTIVE COMPLETE. Demar’s 9 Million/year is the only largest contract on the team and now Demar’s is a player worth the contract (what a jump of value from last year).

    Internal development is now looking like it is done properly now. All Masai needed to do this season was to pull the square peg out of the circle hole and fit it into the correct hole. After the playoffs is over. Masai will guarantee to us that he will not add a Kapono because he HATES LAZY PEOPLE and he can smell one from a country mile. I have faith in this management now for the next five years.

    I believe Tim W. didn’t see this coming three months after his last “negative-nancy” recap as did I.

  • JHP

    They beat a team they should have and it’s called Taking care of business. Of all the playoff teams I would wager Toronto has one of the weakest benches. So having 2 starters out really hurts the team. Their magic number is 3 and I hope they win the next 3 , so the last 2 games do not matter.

    • noname

      no sir the worst playoff team bench would that of the blazers, it’s going to be their downfall no matter how good their starters are.

  • dunkmycat7

    Here’s the thing about GV…yeah there is lots to criticize but in the end all you want is the W.
    That’s 3 in a row, all you can ask. GREAT backup, and he can go off for 25 like he did last nite .I still say the Raps PG COMBO is among the top half dozen or so in the NBA.
    But just let me ask you all out there..WTF WAS the reason EXACTLY they let DJ-AUG go for nothing ?Was there ever a concrete reason given for that ? Given what he has done in Chi this year I don’t get it…he was damn good in Indy last year, that’s a good program to come from …? anybody ?
    And as far as Raptor broadcasts are concerned they should do to that group what they did to the BC front office.
    Bye,so long , seeya, have a nice career somewhere else. Or not.
    Just think Jack and Leo and SO mickey mouse, the same drone automaton nonsense game after game, year after year. And even Matt who is a walking computer and pretty much knows his stuff is just ANNOYING. I think you bring on Sherm And Jonsey as the TV team, or failing that how about Sam M ? LOVE him when he is on. How about Butch C ? He’s pretty good on Bob M’s show. It seems there are options available and they can do better.
    And they should.
    So yeah you PROFESSIONAL basketball team – win out, clinch the Atlantic early and then do in the last few games what a lot of people wanted in November…..TANK IT. :):):)
    Go Raps.

    • Guest

      If you’re confused about the Augustin situation, yo should maybe attention to the NBA for over twelve months before you start commenting on it. Augustin was HORRIBLE in Indy last year. Just horrible. That’s why they didnt re-sign him. That’s why NO TEAM IN THE LEAGUE wanted to sign him. That’s why the raps signed him for the vets minimum… because NO ONE WANTED HIM. So, the raps gave him some burn, he SUCKED, and so we let him go. Probably the best choice. you think a guy who started in the league is gunna wanna be thrid string? No, yes he’s done fine in Chicago, but you give anyone burn in the NBA they’ll put up numbers everntually.

      There is nothing worse or more pointless in life than revisionist history. Think about how that whole situation unfold before you reach a chicago box store and say retarded shit.
      I mean, like, can someone explain to me why Manu Ginobli was drafted second round?

    • Chewwy No Matthew

      Jonesey is awful to listen too on the radio. He NEVER has any input that may seem like constructive critisism on the Raptors. Everything is rosy with this guy or he avoids the topic period. If I have to watch Leo spin a basketball on his finger again, I’m gonna ask Jack to shove the ball up Leo’s ass. Jack has been a lot better this year as he has given praise and has given fair critique. Devlin goes off on those non sensical rants about anything other than the game. It’s awful. You can always count on Leo to say the refs made a great call even if it’s brutal. I agree with you, it would be great to see Sam as he doesn’t hold back and knows his stuff.

  • DryDry

    “Played well in a point guard role and may be showing enough to have the Raptors show Vasquez the door at the end of the season.”

    Nahh he lays like the unknown guy who shows up at the Y and the team he gets put on is all what what what he seems to know how to play but I never know what he’s gonna do when he has the ball

  • A. Finol

    Really, sometimes I don’t believe the things I read here in this blog… GV was great tonight and deserves a better grade, that’s it for tonight, maybe in the next game another player will step up and give us the W, so what???, this is basketball and we are lucky to have a good team playing for us… Mr. Tim W doesn’t like GV’s game, so what?.., it’s just his opinion, if he does believe that Nando would eventually replace GV in the team and GV will be sent to another team, so what?… the most important things from my point of view are: 1) the Raps are winning… despite of many people believes and predictions… 2) We have a great team that gets along well and everybody is doing their job (no F… egos)… 3) If the Raps decide that GV is not longer what they want in their team, well that’s fine, but I’m proud of that guy, really… coming back from an injury, playing with his heart for this city and being a real PRO with enough maturity (more than many others in the NBA even with bigger names) to accept a back up roll and CONTRIBUTE. All the comments about ethnic and racism please guys, REALLY?… this is a game that’s supposed to bring us joy and teach us something useful for our life and we are taking it to such a low low label by just even thinking on those things… I joined this blog because I thought we would chat about basketball… I’m so disappointed.

    • Tinmann

      Actually I think Tim’s grades are good. Seems every game our players get A’s and B’s, which always seem inflated.
      Still always find negativity in his writings. And you know what, until we win the championship, Tim will always be right. We can win third, win a first round, take Miami or Indy to 6 games and then Tim will come back with “see I told you so”.
      And it’s sad.

      • Saskatoon Raps Fan

        You can’t build a championship roster in 1 yr unless you’re the Miami heat. Regardless of how far the raps go this yr he has no right to say I told you so. Only if they plateau over the next few yrs and get stuck as a perpetual middle-low seed can he say anything, and quite frankly I don’t see that happening, JV and TRoss are gonna be beasts, thanks to their development we really don’t need a young lotto pick this year

        • Tinmann

          “Regardless of how far the raps go this yr he has no right to say I told you so”

          while I have never met Tim, by his writings he comes across as pompous, condescending and narrow-minded.

          ” Only if they plateau over the next few yrs and get stuck as a perpetual middle-low seed can he say anything”
          – what can he say. Had we tanked(along with at least 8 other teams) we might of had a top five pick, who might of reached his expectations, and might of help us win more

  • Hassan Mehmood Khan

    I want the raps to get to 50 wins would be a big milestone for this club we should go all out to achieve this goal

  • A. Finol

    I would like to invite the people of this blog to listen to the players post-game interviews… you will see what this team is all about. Go Raps…let’s go guys!….I’m proud of our team…

  • DC

    Would have preferred to see Tim W’s take on one of the Raptors’ gritty, well-executed games against a good team. Just out of curiosity. This game was too easy for a ho-hum review, and he avoided the team’s overall season performance and W-L record like the plague. A total cop-out.

  • Rapchat

    I’m newish on here and I love this site!!! Don’t know Tim W, don’t care. I think his grades are fair here, even if I can smell the negativity in the recaps. B+ is the right grade for GV. Just can’t give an A after Knight dismantled him and posterized our team. A W is a W. Forget Lowry and Amir, this game was close simply because the Raps were hung over from the Indy game. All year, they have followed big games with tired performances against sub par teams. Last week we beat HOU and then IND so I actually expected this game tonight. Glad we pulled it out. GV is our BEST player off the bench. Before GV, 6-12. After GV, 39-20. WTF do you want???????? You want Nando to replace GV? One sec….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH. All better now… GV is a sharp shooting stone cold clutch killer. I like Nando, and think he adds a very crafty skill set but he isnt close to GV’s shot or clutch ability. Not that I’ve seen. I certainly hope he emerges as that though, I wouldn’t complain. HAHA If Nando were to score 26 points I think they would have a parade in Paris, and maybe Quebec too.

    My Raps Playoff BBQ invite list so far is…asifyouknow, steverino, jjdynomite….

    Beers and burgers on me boys and girls… :)

    • Steverino

      Awesome. I’ll be there.

    • jjdynomite

      That’d be sweet Rapchat. I’ll bring the guac and chips. :-)

  • steve fisher

    That was painful to watch and i credit their grit in the crunch for the win. In order to keep winning a few major things MUST CHANGE.TR could jump a couple of levels IF he did not appear to be AFRAID to drive to the hoop. Good news bad news from last night was that he did drive to the basket the bad news is that he did not do it until the last minute of the game. This makes him much too predictable and easy to guard since he pumps up a continual stream of perimeter jumpers. It took DD a couple of years to realize that many good things happen when you go to the can like more baskets,more EASY points from foul shots and wearing down the D as they accumulate fouls making them more reluctant to play tough D in the crunch! I do not think TR realizes how incredibly talented and athletic he really is. When he drives to hoop he is a nightmare to guard. Having coached for three decades i see their weaker defenders making a few basic defensive mistakes. A player should always stay between their man and the basket and be able to see the ball. The slower you are the more space you give them. Finally DO NOT leave your feet with sucker fakes which happens several times a game resulting in easy baskets or defensive confusion Always have your hands straight up in the face of the shooter challenging the shooter.With a few FUNDAMENTAL changes they could really extend their success long into the future. GO RAPS Go !!!

  • Alex Vostrikov

    win is a win….
    weak teams win 30% of the time… so, argument that raps played weak, is not an argument.
    I enjoy seeing the W’s in the end of the game. previous years, good play more than often, resulted in a lose, which most of the fans ecstatic after a few good plays.
    screw that….
    give me games like this, with W in the end.
    val gave it all… with 17 and 13.go raps