Brooklyn Nets 94 Final
Recap | Box Score
87 Toronto Raptors
Amir Johnson, PF Shot Chart 21 MIN | 1-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 2 PTS | -12

Got predictably torn apart by Pierce in the first, as Casey chose to stick with the two-big lineup, at least to start. There was a shocking paucity of pick ‘n roll play with him going at Pierce, or anyone for that matter. Instead, we saw him get a post-up 20-feet out which ended up in a turnover. He’s a guy who feeds off of others, and when others aren’t doing their thing, his production takes a dip. He’s been getting a lot of love in the press lately, which I thought was a bit over the top. I expected him to at least come out with the same energy as Lowry, but nothing doing.

Terrence Ross, SF Shot Chart 16 MIN | 1-4 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 3 PTS | -1

I can forgive his first foul to jitters but the second was silly (knowing he already had one) and the third (picked up on a late rotation) was downright unforgivable. It also meant that we saw way too much of John Salmons which should be punishable by jail-time. Defensively, got stuck on Johnson’s hips too often and did a poor job of dealing with Deron Williams on switches for the most part.

Jonas Valanciunas, C Shot Chart 35 MIN | 7-13 FG | 3-4 FT | 18 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 2 BLK | 6 TO | 17 PTS | -17

We got him involved from the outset which was great as he was key to digging us out of that early 12-point lead. He missed some makeable shots off of offensive rebounds and pick ‘n rolls, but overall a solid game. Was placed in help situations on Joe Johnson where he didn’t fare well, but then again Johnson is a pro.

Kyle Lowry, PG Shot Chart 44 MIN | 7-18 FG | 5-6 FT | 7 REB | 8 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 5 TO | 22 PTS | -12

Amazing, what can I even say? Unfazed by the occasion and playing at full-steam for every second he was in there. Without him this is a blowout. That is all. Emotionally, he was at a different level than his teammates and has to feel aggrieved at their efforts.

DeMar DeRozan, SG Shot Chart 37 MIN | 3-13 FG | 8-8 FT | 2 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 3 TO | 14 PTS | -10

Shaun Livingston had him in a straitjacket and made Vince Carter’s playoff debut look awesome. The shaky dribble was accompanied by timidity which meant his suspect ball-handling kept him strictly on the perimeter, and once he missed his first couple jumpers, he missed makeable shots too. He turned into a black-hole, not because he was ball-hogging but because his lack of dribbling skills hampered him from escaping even mild-mannered Nets traps. Also, any offensive play which started as DeRozan as the ball-handler was doomed.

Tyler Hansbrough, PF Shot Chart 7 MIN | 0-0 FG | 2-2 FT | 1 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | +7

I thought he’d be used a bit more in a small-ball lineup, but nothing doing.

Patrick Patterson, PF Shot Chart 26 MIN | 4-8 FG | 0-0 FT | 5 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 0 TO | 9 PTS | +5

Did well to supply energy off the bench and neutralize Pierce early, but struggled guarding him late. He’s obviously the guy we have to go with in a small-ball lineup, but when you’re looking at him to save you, there’s something else wrong (ahem, DeRozan). Offensively, I thought he was adequate and relatively composed given the occasion.

Chuck Hayes, PF Shot Chart 6 MIN | 0-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | +3

Was given some playing time so that JV could be spelled a rest. Boxed out adequately on a defensive possession.

John Salmons, SF Shot Chart 13 MIN | 0-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | -9

OK, since he’s basically an offensive void I’m going to assume his job is to defend. Therefore, I’m to judge him on two things: 1) his defense which was quite poor and didn’t serve to slow down Williams or Johnson, and 2) his veteran steadiness, which was non-existent because every time he dribbles the ball I have to take Zantac for my heartburn. It’s gotten to the point where I’m not sure what he does well, if anything. I’m sure things will turn for the better (they can’t get much worse), but in this game he was null and void.

Greivis Vasquez, PG Shot Chart 29 MIN | 5-11 FG | 5-5 FT | 4 REB | 8 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 18 PTS | +8

Solid game for a guy who’s getting his playoff feet wet. Composed on offense and even forced some turnovers on defense (one through a backcourt trap!). Yes, some of those shots aggravated you to no end, however, consider that DeRozan and Ross were flops and the situation almost demanded that he try to carry more of the load.

Nando de Colo, PG Shot Chart 4 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | +3

Another guy who I would’ve liked to have seen more in a small-ball lineup, given how poorly our offense was functioning.

Dwane Casey

Too late to react to the Pierce/Johnson matchup and unable to get DeRozan steadied through some set plays. The guy obviously needed help and Casey saw it fit to start possessions with DeRozan ball-handling – not good. Recognized that the Raptors needed to help on Joe Johnson too late (in the second half, believe it or not) which burned us and got Johnson going.

Five Things We Saw

  1. It should concern you that the Nets won this despite not being at their best. We’ll see a lot of coverage of how DeRozan and Johnson were absent, but so were Anderson, Teletovic and others.
  2. No fouls were called on the Nets in the fourth quarter, which is unreal because there was a lot of contact on multiple plays there.
  3. What bugs me is that we were beaten by predictable issues – Joe Johnson overpowering our wings, the Johnson/Pierce matchup, and Livingston’s unique advantage. There didn’t seem to be a plan in place to deal with any of this.
  4. As much as I hate Paul Pierce, the guy is a clutch dude that you can clear out for and you know you’re going to get a high-percentage look with the game on the line. The only guy we can do that with is Kyle Lowry, and it’s difficult for PGs (due to height, role) be that kind of guy.
  5. Our half-court sets were brutal, partly due to 60% of the starting lineup out taking a piss, but part also because we were forced to play in the half-court by the Nets, which is to their advantage. The good news is that despite all that, we were in the game and if we can repeat the defensive effort, and just figure out how to get average production from Ross, DeRozan and Johnson, maybe we have a shouting chance.
  • FLUXLAND

    “it ain’t like it’s rocket science or I’ve got to know trigonometry or something. ”

    #clown.

    • FuckBrooklyn

      it’s 1 game, why dont you just get off the website, my god, go bother someone else.

      • FREEJV

        dont get me started on de colo

        • FuckBrooklyn

          Haha, should i change my name to avoid people thinking i care about De Colo at all?

          • FREEJV

            yes pls

            • FuckBrooklyn

              There i feel better haha

      • FLUXLAND

        You shouldn’t be bothered…. almost 50 win season 3rd seed. top 10 rankings on offense and defense..etc etc.

        • FuckBrooklyn

          I’m not bothered by the team, I’m bothered by morons

          • FLUXLAND

            Smart guy like you bothered by morons? Are you sure?

            • FuckBrooklyn

              Just funny how you have to get on other teams websites just to pleasure yourself

              • FLUXLAND

                So, now I make you laugh?

                • jjdynomite

                  Fuxtard you little troll bitch go cheer for your rapist Kobe and the Fakers in the playoffs. Oh wait….

                • FLUXLAND

                  : ) Good one, mate!

                • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

                  Nobody’s laughing. You’re not funny. Just do us all a favour and shut the fuck up. Oh wait, you’re probably one of those people who enjoys attention on blogs because nobody pays you any attention outside of online forums.

                • FuckBrooklyn

                  yep, you’re just fantastic

                • FLUXLAND

                  Thank you Sir!

                • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

                  That was sarcasm if you didn’t realize, fluxtard.

                • FLUXLAND

                  Thanks for letting me know. : )

      • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

        Just ignore fluxland… he’s a fucking clown himself; probably deliberately comments on these forums just to piss people off, because he knows in real life he’s just a sad and pathetic and useless piece of shit

        • FLUXLAND

          Just ignore? That’s funny advice from someone who is clearly incapable of doing the same.

          • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

            Bravo, I tip my hat off to you for your outstanding show of maturity.

            • FLUXLAND

              Well, at least we’ve been able to show everyone you’re capable of typing more than just profanities and coming up with incredibly poorly chosen handles. Those being the pillars of maturity.

              • Yep

                FLUXAND.. think about it.. trolling the raptors fan site is probably the most attention you’ll ever get for anything in your life.. success!!! errrr…

                • FLUXLAND

                  I thought about it…. nah, you’re wrong.

  • Rapsin7

    Derozan deserves a F————-

    • KJ-B

      True–but Kyle Lowry wasn’t necessarily helping playing the 2 instead of the 1 out there–I want 16 assists from a 5’11’ point guard not 20+ points in the playoffs!

  • Aaron

    This was predictable that Derozen is going to STRUGGLE this series. It’s gotta be Lowry and V that win us a game. Derozen just does not have it. need Ross to step it up as well.

    • Ghotte

      ANY contribution from a small forward and we win this game. Not to mention Amir being MIA

    • KJ-B

      He’s a student of the game–he’ll rip and go and not turn back BUT Casey hopefully has a talk with Kyle. The offense was starting way too late.. Ball stuck! One too many hero ball moves by Lowry..

    • LetsbeattheNets

      If DeRozan comes more prepared in Game 2, which I think he will because he’s a resilient man we will win Game 2. I think he understands now that playoff experience IS important. He shrugged it off a lot in the media and that got me worried. Even Pierce and KG got spooked by the crowd this afternoon, but they were able to gather themselves a lot quicker than DeRozan. DeRozan can’t depend on his season success. He needs to mentally prepare for the Nets and nail down all the small details. Learn Opponents’ defensive and offensive cues and prepare so much that when he’s on the court he’s on autopilot, not improvising which he was this afternoon.

  • RaptorsKOR

    First playoffs game for lot of our players.

    Experience is an asset.

    It taught our players good lessons.

    Good game. Good effort.

  • FREEJV

    masai: fuck brooklyn
    me: Fuck derozan.

    • Abused Raptors Fan

      Not sure Masai is too worried here. In fact, the more the team struggles, the easier his job will be this summer. It’s clear that this roster isn’t where it needs to be in terms of talent, and to improve it Masai May have to make some unpopular/”difficult” decisions this off-season. Those moves would be difficult to justify if they didn’t struggle during this series.

      • FLUXLAND

        Are you sure about that? Even if the struggle in the series, these are the guys that made him look like a genius and brought him into the POs.

        • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

          shut the fuck up

      • FREEJV

        i have a feeling hes gonna use demars all star selection to get his value up like jrue holiday who knows what he ll do

  • Musik

    Playing through DD that entire 3rd qrt killed our offensive flow completely. He threw up a contested shot or turned it over on almost every possession. If his shots were not falling he should of passed it off and did his work on defense to help this team not spend a whole qrt trying to shoot his way out of a slump. He shit the bed plain and simple.

  • Ds

    Fuck the referees. I hope someone from the Raptors pays the fine and rips into those assholes. Garnett manhandles JV, nothing, Garnett stays 10 seconds in the paint, nothing, Pierce walks to Mississauga and back, nothing, and the list goes and on.

    • Chch166

      LMAOOOO walks to Mississauga

    • truth be told

      The refs were not the cause of that loss. Turnovers and shoddy defence are better reasons to look to. Raps shot a healthy amount of free throws so blaming officiating is a crutch..
      Devlin and Jack need to stop complaining about refs as an excuse for a loss.

      • vam2060

        I agree that our play was not up to par which is to blame for the loss but the refs didn’t help in the 4th either. Just because we shot good amount of free throws, it doesn’t explain the fact that there was so much contact especially Garnett on JV, and the refs did not call anything. At least that’s what I saw happening on the court.

      • Abused Raptors Fan

        Well yes, but also no. While the fta were about equal over the length of the game, you can’t tell me that the Nets played the entire 4th without fouling, and that’s when the officiating can influence a game the most.

        • jakdripr

          But we entered that 4th trailing by 5. Never mind the fact we started settling the entire 4th quarter, I mean even if the refs had some sort of bias towards us, settling for jumpers on the perimeter is not going to do much to change their opinion. After feeding JV through 3 quarters(and putting most of their front line in foul trouble) we-predictably-went away from him in the 4th in favour of more jump shots.

          We lost this game and we have absolutely no one to blame but ourselves, we can complain about reffing all we want, but 18 turnovers? Shooting under 40%? 3 of your starting 5 pretty much don’t show up? That shit isn’t going to win you any playoff games.

          • FREEJV

            like i said before this game. JV is the key to the series he will dominate the nets if he gets touches. too bad demar wont leave his ego at the entrance and tell casey or lowry to run some plays for JV as “the leader” of the team.

            • hyperdouche

              If you watch this team enough, I think its pretty clear that DeRozan has no ego whatsoever.

              • jakdripr

                Don’t waste your time with him, he hates Derozan and nothing you say will change his mind.

                • FREEJV

                  yep 5 years in the league already. limited potential

          • Alex Vostrikov

            if you noticed, JV was exhausted in many occasions. actually, I was about to take my dogs head for JV not being involved on offence, but then you could see, that he is done.
            regarding jump shots? yes, there where many… but its not easy to go to the basket, get killed, and not get anything out of it. hansbrough was actually key to this game….. and saw only 7 min. shame

            • jakdripr

              True that true that, that’s why Chuck hayes played for quite a while in the fourth. We really do need some depth in the front court, but this is good because it shows Masai what this team needs. In regards to the jump shots, it’s not the jump shots that bother me, but the lack of any way to get easy buckets.

        • asifyouknow

          Dont forget to read my take…lol

    • Raptorstand

      Man , it looked like everyone was playing underwater. First play off game jitters. We go out and play our worst game in 60 games and we are leading in the fourth . Everything is all right , we will win this series going away. Play off virgins no more , we will run those old men out of the gym next game . No worries.

    • Pedro-

      As much as we like to blame the refs, this game was not lost because of bad calls. There is no way a team can win a playoff game specially against a solid veteran team with 17 turn-overs vs 8 and its top scorer (DD) shooting 23% and having only 1 assist. DD has to find a way to shoot better or at least facilitate if he doesn’t have the shots. I believe above all things the turn overs and DD’s inefficiency was the deciding factor in this game.

    • Jamshid

      “He’s been getting a lot of love in the press lately, which I thought was a bit over the top.”
      He has been called the heart and soul of this team, most efficient offensive player of this team, top 10 PF in this league, best defensive player in this team, the glue guy, the emotional leader of this team and …
      And he comes and plays like this !!!!! The love that this guy gets from the fan in this town is simply amazing. Lets see how he will do in this series but I predict that he will player like a rotational player that he is …

    • FREEJV

      Does pierce have the extra miles rewards card? why he travellin so much?

    • BKN are better than TOR

      ARE U F***ING KIDDING ME!?!?! The refs suck cause most of the fouls were called on the Nets! These refs do stink, I agree, but they suck for the Nets. The refs called dumb fricken fouls that didn’t make any sense. The Nets deserved the win. The Raptors and their fans shouldn’t call it the refs fault for their loss. In fact, they shouldn’t complain at all. The game was clearly biased and in favor for the Raptors. It was purely skill that the Nets won. Game two is happening right now, at this moment, and I clearly see that the refs are supporting the Raptors. Look at it in terms of a Nets player and fan before you complain. You can clearly see that the series is in favor for the Raptors.

  • FuckBrooklyn

    It’s all about not making stupid decision, not taking stupid shots, and just all around being smart, and Derozan was none of those. It’s one game and no reason to panic, but just be smart and the Raptors win that game. Also i was tired of them saying Garnett turned it on in the 4th quarter, he made 1 shot, but maybe that is “turning it on” for Garnett at this point in his career.

  • FREEJV

    After this game i can say with 100% confidence that JV is the future of this team. not demar fakeallstar derozan

    • ace5950

      Without Lowry we wouldn’t even have a team

      • FREEJV

        lowry is too old to be considered the future

        • ace5950

          Same with brooklyn and look how game 1 turned out. I agree I think JV is going to be a major piece but he needs a pg like Lowry to feed him the ball, he’s not a guard to be able to create his own shot

          • FREEJV

            no really? never seen a center handle ball……

            • Guest

              never seen JV handle it

        • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

          he’s 28. nobody ever said he’s the future, but neither does it mean we can’t rely on him over the next 2-3 years at least

          • FREEJV

            28 is old age in nba business with all the 1 and dones nowadays.

            • DC

              LeBron James is 29.

              • FREEJV

                pretty old compared to the 19 year olds coming into the league.

                • DC

                  pretty good too?

                • FREEJV

                  nah hes shit. worst player

            • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

              clearly you’ve got the intelligence of a 12-13 year old, so i’m not going to even bother arguing with you.

              • FREEJV

                a 12 year old is smarter than you bitch ^_^

                • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

                  Haha the fact that you’re wrong in so many of your rebuttals and the fact that you don’t even realize you are wrong when I point it out to you already tells me just what I need to know about your inferior intelligence.

                • FREEJV

                  shhhhhhh its all gonna be ok ^_^

    • caccia

      You are way too overconfident. Valanciunas had a lot of rebounds, but also fumbled the ball a lot and had six turnovers. DeRozan and the team will come back.

      • FREEJV

        loool im overconfident? This is nothing compared to what derozan says . “it aint rocket science”. “i feel like noone can stop me”. shut up demar

        • FLUXLAND

          “no one can stop me” LMFAO.

          • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

            you’ve got a piss poor sense of humour. shut the fuck up already

    • Ghotte

      JV played about as well as he could today. Battled etc. BUT on the defensive end he needs a lot of learning. His rotations were generally bad and caused the defense to be out of sync. Great rebounding though. Bad +/-

      • Abused Raptors Fan

        I’m confident his D will improve in time. I think he’s mostly focused on his offence this season. As much as Casey likes to say that he holds JV accountable on D, it’s often been JV’s offensive production that’s determined his playtime. If you look at the games he played less than 20 minutes, his fg% is often the stat that sticks out the most. On the other hand, there have been plenty of games where JV hasn’t been keyed in on D but he still played 30+ minutes because he had it going offensively. And, now that JV has seemingly figured out how to stay in the game with his offence, he’s going to have an opportunity to develop on the defensive end, particularly when playing in late game situations.

        • consmap

          Not just offensive production, but his work on the boards as well.
          I remember that one game where he went 1-9 from the field or something, but Casey left him in because he still managed to pull down 13 boards.

      • FREEJV

        how bout you tell that to demar? joe johnson bullied his ass

  • BJ

    Blue Jays up by 5 in the 9th

  • lol

    JV was the best this game, DD was fucking afwul…

  • Phat AlberG

    Raptors are so stubborn, Jason Kidd ran the same play at least 30 times today between 2 guys. Val is KILLING! them inside and gets 2 plays called to him in the second half, Casey you need recognize your mismatches. I know fans love Amir Johnson, but I saw no passion from him and Ross, it was very disappointing. Then Demar DeRozan stop with hero ball, swing the ball, keep the ball the moving, uptempo the game, Raptors cannot afford to play at this slow pace.

  • guesting

    Is there any excuse for sitting JV half of the fourth and giving minutes to Hayes? Terribly coached game, and DeRozan looks absolutely lost if he can’t find space and his shot isn’t falling.

    • FREEJV

      chuck hayes is so bad. how many off rebs did they get when he came in the game

      • lddd

        zero

    • Icarus Descending

      JV looked gassed from having to run all over the court setting screens without seeing the ball much.

      • Musik

        Exactly… He did alot of work today and was the forgotten man when it counted. Without his points in the first half we would of got destroyed. Him and Lowry were the top reasons this game was even that close.

      • ValanInuyashaSSS

        I blame Masai for not signing a big man for remainder of the season, Steimsma was available and could be extremely useful in the playoffs. Look at what Bulls did, they signed Brewer, Mike James one or two weeks before the seasons’ over.

        • FREEJV

          lol wtf. brooklyns big man didnt do shit today. The problem was johnson and williams. derozan cant let johnson bully him like that in the pist and then complains to JV about not helping him what a clown

          • WhiteVegas

            You know damn well we lost because we didn’t have Steimsma!

            ……please don’t take that seriously

            • FREEJV

              nah we lost cuz of no aaron gray.

    • lewro

      Exactly! Please don’t give Casey an extension. Raps success is not BC of him. Slow to adjust, bad rotations, bad play calls, no game plan, etc.

    • mike, prague

      Fatigue? Not saying it was the best timing… just saying …

  • RaptorsKOR

    Btw that shot clock bullshit messed up everything.

    • Chewwy No Matthew

      It was embarrassing. First playoff game in 6 years and this happened? It really took the jump out of the game and listening to Herbie calling out the amount of time in the shot clock was bush league. Not Herbie’s fault at all but it looked bad.

      • Abused Raptors Fan

        Must have been a US conspiracy to keep the Raptors from getting off of the treadmill… Haha. Seriously though, way to show the national US audience that Toronto is a legit NBA market…

        • FREEJV

          we showed that with the fans. doesnt matter if we dont got the prettiest shot clock.

          • WhiteVegas

            I was watching from the US and the crowd looked awesome on ESPN, inside and outside the arena.

  • tyson

    They needed to get one playoff game under their belt. Just learn from their mistakes is all. Yes, the reffing sucked balls in the 4th quarter but 19 turnovers and like no offence from 3 of our starters should not have had us in the game by the 4th anyways. But man I still gotta say that reffing though.

  • Maks

    derozans not a clutch player. he just doesnt have the mentality shown time and time again. we need an upgrade over him. hes good on games that dont matter or before the 4th quarter during close contests in important games.

    • Ghotte

      Load of Crap.

    • LetsbeattheNets

      You’ll be eating your words, and I’ve seen so many anti-DeRozan posts it’s becoming really uncool. DeRozan IS a mentally tough player. He is just young, still a little naive, didn’t come with the right mind-set, thinking playoff experience is irrelevant. Now that he’s had a bitter taste of Game 1, expect DeRozan to nail down all the small little things Game 2 and getting into the groove of things eventually. This 3 day rest is actually way better for the Raptors than it is for the Nets.

      • mountio

        DD stunk today. Period

      • FREEJV

        nah only think i ate during the game was an omelette. didnt eat any of my words about demar.

  • Junior Maurice

    this playoffs series will expose demar derozan lack of ball handling

    • Musik

      Hes been exposed for that all season long.

  • mike, prague

    I liked the aggressiveness in DeRozans play, he just couldn’t make a shot.

    • Chewwy No Matthew

      DeMar’s decision making was the biggest issue. He took some incredibly stupid jump shots.

  • raptorholic

    Brooklyn in 5

  • RaptorFan

    Game 1…. Relax

    Demar has a tough series ahead of him and Brooklyn clearly game planned to stop him. He made 8 free throws which means he stayed somewhat aggressive.

    Keep your composure… We need Demar or else this series is over.

    • ValanInuyashaSSS

      Net’s nightmare is JV but Casey does not realized that by playing Chuck Hayes

    • KJ-B

      I actually was more impressed with the refs total disregard for the rule book than the Nets. Joe Johnson + Paul Pierce are who they are. If the Raps calm down — they could win 4 of the next 5. Everything went right for Brooklyn and they barely won…

      • mike, prague

        Everything is a strong word. Their 3PT shooting was garbage and AA and Telotovic were non-factors (more than usual)

        • FREEJV

          i dont understand why we keep leaving teletovic and pierce wide open at the 3 pt line. just stick to them no matter what happens you got a 7 footer who ll grab all the boards inside

      • FLUXLAND

        In what world did everything go right for BK?

  • santayana

    Let’s not blame the refs ok. Raps got a lot of calls in the first half to keep them close (two T’s, foul on Vazquez 3). They had more FTs than Bkn for the game before garbage time. Without the refs, Derozan would have been close to being completely shut out. Nets were just better. If they could hit an open 3, it would have been a blow out.

    • Kkb

      Cant agree w/ u more. Blame the refs is always the best excus. We played a f–king bad game. Pure n simple.

    • robertparish00

      Saying “let’s not blame the refs” means the refs were not calling it even, otherwise it wouldn’t need to be said.

    • Chewwy No Matthew

      Refs were terrible

  • FREEJV

    Jv 17/18 . this guys the future . gotta give him more touches

    • FLUXLAND

      How do you feel about all those PsIP?

      • FREEJV

        what?

        • FLUXLAND

          Points In The Paint.

          • FuckBrooklyn

            I’m assuming theres some kind of sarcasm here.

            • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

              Nah, fluxland is a fucking idiot. just ignore him

          • FREEJV

            ask that to the guards. they were the ones getting beat off dribble everytime JV locked down his man

            • FLUXLAND

              Yeah, I hear ya. Still, just wish his contributions were more on the D end.

              • FREEJV

                18 rebs good enough? its not his fault vasquez and derozan let their man post them up and shoot over them from 5 feet. JV cant guard 3 people

                • FLUXLAND

                  Only 1 in the 4th tho. And he never gets the crucial ones.

                  Vasquez makes my eyes bleed and #Clown should give his AS nod to Lance Stephenson.

                • FuckBrooklyn

                  Vasquez, JV, and Lowry are the only reasons they didn’t lose by 30

                • Musik

                  Vasquez has a bad habit of killing the shot clock then forcing his teammates to make bad shots and theres also his defense. he gives up as much or more than he gives.

                • FuckBrooklyn

                  The shot clock killed itself long before then.

                • Musik

                  Through out the whole season.. just saying.

                • Steverino

                  Just Vasquez? The biggest culprit in that regard is DeRozan and to a lesser degree Lowry. No sense in singling out Vasquez.

                • FLUXLAND

                  If you want to look at it like that, sure. I’m just saying his game is painful on the eyes and of the hear attack variety.

                • alberto

                  look i will recommend you to start learning about basketball, maybe thats why you can not recognize a good player

                • FLUXLAND

                  Oh, trust me I can recognize a pylon on D. That’s where the discussion of a good player starts, but you already know that, right?

                • SickNTired

                  Yes, but he looked gassed from Q3. Also the emotional stuff is exhausting
                  While demar was terrible today, you can entierly blame him.
                  Casey has to set plays for him to get free.
                  Nets were pressuring the ball high and we need to set our offence
                  deeper
                  Patterson’s missed jumper from 3 feet was critical.

                • FLUXLAND

                  A 21 year old gassed? Are we not playing old dinosaurs?

                  Casey could set plays all day, he’d still be building a house with those shots.

                  I think the Nets are basically content with Junior Varsity getting his.. but I agree with the rest.

    • FuckBrooklyn

      Yep, maybe JV for President or Pope or something.

      • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

        Nah, all he wants is JV’s dick… that much will satisfy him.

        • FREEJV

          17/18 bud. have fun suckin off derozan tonight he ll need it after choking today.

          • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

            you have no basis for saying that. shows just how little thought you give before you open your mouth you dumb shit

            • FREEJV

              well you opened yours to suck off derozan so keep going. ^_^

              • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

                Child, grow up, or shut the fuck up. Your ignorance and lack of maturity is not appreciated around these parts.

                • FREEJV

                  Dont you worry child ^_^

              • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

                Where do you go to school child? Clearly your homeroom teacher needs to give you a smacking.

                • FREEJV

                  No but i know you gave demar a good spanking tonight didnt you ^_^

    • Bryan Colangelo

      JV had a big game. Garnett looked outmatched and rattled in the first but stepped up his defense in the fourth.

      They spent too much time trying to get DeRozan and Ross going in the third and fourth. But then again if you can’t get figure out how to get these guys decent looks now the series is already over.

      Brooklyn’s perimeter D is a big issue that needs to be solved unless we expect Lowry to run around and create on every possession.

  • Andrius

    Tough game, Nets had the edge nearly through out the game. If not that shotclock fail. I thought Raps were turning the corner, but everything went straight off the tracks. No flow, turnovers, good Hero ball by several guys. Man I think this was like a good cold shower in the morning for the team. This sh** is real. Guys need to put the big boy pants on and get to work. We The North, We Get Back Up n’ Go Forth!

  • d_1212

    even though JV and Lowry played good, 11 TOs combined is a concern

  • ace5950

    The turnovers man, the damn turnovers, even with DeRozan’s shitty game we still could’ve won this if we took care of the ball

    • Bryan Colangelo

      Cut down the turnovers by half and it’s an entirely different game. But a lot of that has to do with guys a like Ross and DeRozan feeling like they have to create something and responding poorly to defensive pressure.

      We only have two guys that can create their own shot against this defense, and one them is a backup point guard. If they can’t get back to basics and run pick and rolls on both sides we’re doomed.

  • Icarus Descending

    If Ross performs this poorly we lose, I like Derozan but he is not made to be the go to guy in playoff basketball. JV has to be the go to guy all game (not just first quarter) and Ross needs stay out of foul trouble and at least get to to double digits in points.

    I really hope our offence performance today was just due to play off jitters and they come out with better ball movement and less turnovers in game 2.

    • or nah?

      So, when you need a 3 with 5 seconds left, will you go to JV?

      • Real ngga form the steert

        what’s the difference? jonas can’t hit a 3 and demar can’t hit a 3

        • or nah?

          Didn’t say I’d give it to DeMar.

      • FREEJV

        derozan hasnt hit a 3 to save his life in 5 years. maybe JV is actually a wetter but we dont know yet o.O

  • Valsanity

    it’s hard to feel optimisitic after this game… i know everybody likes to look at inexperience as an excuse, but the Nets really didn’t play very well at all this game. we needed to take this one… this was probably the most winnable game we’ll have this series and we played so badly (at least a lot of the team did) that we let it get away

    • FuckBrooklyn

      Not like the Raptors played good, this is the worst game I’ve seen them play in awhile, all around.

      • RaptorsKOR

        i agree. Their every offensive possessions looked held up. There was no smooth ball movements.

        • FuckBrooklyn

          Forced shots, not boxing out, giving one of the worst rebounding teams in the NBA too many 2nd chances, turnovers, Terrance Ross never getting out of foul trouble, John Salmons only being good for his beard, and the list goes on.

          • Chewwy No Matthew

            Experience did not play a factor. Vasquez, JV and Patterson are young with no playoff experience. They played well. Salmons was terribel. Amir was terribel. These two have actually been in a playoffs

            • FuckBrooklyn

              Dont respond to me, i didn’t say it haha

              • Chewwy No Matthew

                Just adding a point. Relax!!!

                • FuckBrooklyn

                  Ya, I’m really pissed.

      • Valsanity

        yeah that’s exactly what i said in my post, thanks for reiterating… nets played bad and we played worse… we saw nothing from Teletovic (sp?), Thornton and Blatche and still got outplayed somehow… can you imagine what it’ll be like if those guys do what they’re capable of??

    • johng_3

      We held them to under a 100 pts, so most of the problems are not on the defensive end, it is turnovers and shot selection.

      • FREEJV

        actually they missed a lot of open 3s. they could ve easily scored 105+ .

  • Paul

    Derozan sucked but I expected him Ross and Jonas to struggle. Jonas was a huge surprise. What’s really got me scared is Amir’s MIA game. If Amir doesn’t pick it up big time we are in trouble.

    • kuzzybear

      I did not see the game, unfortunately, but looking at the shot charts and the assist total (22 on 28 baskets) , it seems to me that even with the turnovers IF the Raptors get the same type of shots they win. Or if they can increase tempo to make the Nets use more gas during the game.

  • santayana

    Playoffs is different than regular season. The games actually matter. The Raptors (and their fans) are gonna learn that in this series.

    • robertparish00

      Much different: the superstar calls are even worse in the playoffs.

  • bobmasa

    This game we lost becouse of Duwen Casey and for sure if he dosnt listern and make necessary adjustment we gonna be swiped by Broklyn. Duwen Casey is very lucky to get this roaster I talk alot about how he like John Salmon and give him all those minites until fans started booing we dont know why he hate Landry Fields and not giving him chance, surprising he always put Novaks few seconds end of the game expecting him to be Jesus, Wtf with this coach.

    • Chewwy No Matthew

      Here it is. What worse can Landry Fields be then Salmons? You could see Joe Johnson licking his lips at the matchup. On top of that, we got a Salmons air ball and then absolutely no confidence to shoot again. Trust me I was at the game and Ross, Amir, Demar and Salmons all deserve an F. Vasquez, Lowry and JV were amazing.

    • ace5950

      lol what?

      • dunkmycat7

        Exactly. Roaster ? What ?

  • mike, prague

    The Nets definitely weren’t at their best tonight. But even more so is it true for the Raptors and still it was a close game. We will win this series. Raps in 6. WE THE NORTH

  • Raps

    Despite DeRozan playing so terrible offensively, he brought good effort on the defensive end which was somewhat overlooked. JV looked amazing but missed some soft shots. Look for Casey/Lowry to get Ross, Johnson, and DeMar involved early in game 2. This was not the same raptors team that set a franchise record in the regular season. I’m not saying that they’ll beat the nets in the remaining games but the effort should definitely be back to the level we expect from this team…

  • Bugster

    It was so sad, watching us play the last few minutes. We weren’t moving the ball, it was so ugly. Meanwhile they were moving the ball, getting mismatches. If it was wasn’t for the offensive rebounds we couldnt even buy a bucket. We need to run and run in the second game. There is no way we can beat them in half court.

  • http://www.raptorsrepublic.com/forums/activity.php Doc

    Listening to the post-game interviews right now and actually had a chuckle at this. Someone asked Paul Pierce if he had played a post-season game without a working shot clock. His reply and I quote, “I’m a dinosaur so I don’t remember.”

    • Bugster

      Going to be honest, I would give the ball to the Dinosaur then DeRozan in the last 5 minute of the game in a playoff game. He is calm like like a dinosaur slayer.

      • http://www.raptorsrepublic.com/forums/activity.php Doc

        Pierce was money. As much as I hate him, its that type of experience that a young team like us miss. That being said, I expect a much different and better prepared Raptors team on Tuesday night. I chalk today’s loss up to inexperience. Plain and simple.

  • ValanInuyashaSSS

    Should play Fields over Salmon on Pierce, Johnson, and Livingston. We know Demar is struggling and Ross too, but play what you have and play what is proven, it’s proven that JV can play this kind of pressure basketball. Despite that fact Demar and Ross are struggling in this game, but JV should be getting the ball all the time and scores like 30 points and 20 rebounds, JV was unguardible, and both Plumlee and Gartnett have foul troubles.

    • ardefen

      yes. how bad would fields have to be to be worse than salmons. incredibly frustrating.

      • FREEJV

        well apparently fields can do worse than 0 points in 13 minutes. thats why i think.

  • Eunys

    Poor me..Flew to Toronto just for the game and paid 306 bucks to see Amir and others sleep on the floor..Thank God we have Lowry and Vasquez !!! Now I understand why Jason Kid wanted them…so pissed! Please stop!!! we lost because they sucked not because of the referees.

    • Steverino

      Well, to be fair, it was a bit of both. They played well enough to be in a position to win in the 4th quarter. It didn’t help that the stars were given the benefit of the doubt all quarter long. A couple of those fouls are called and it’s a different ball game. But yes, the Raptors could have played a lot better.

  • Mark A

    fluxland is dumb, a troll, or likely both

    • FluxlandISAPEDOPHILE

      Yeah I hear ya… it’s a crime against humanity that an imbecile like that has a voice on these forums

  • Chewwy No Matthew

    The atmosphere at the ACC was Bananas. The fans did an incredible job. One of the best atmosphere’s I have been too. The Deron Williams flop was a huge play. From what we saw on the screen, zero contact was made by Lowry. Big call. The officiating was AWFUL!!!!! Casey made some huge errors.

  • Chewwy No Matthew

    Putting Hayes in the game for the first time with 9 minutes left was a big mistake. Just before a timeout, Casey had JV ready to check in for Hayes. Time out was called and when they came back out, Hayes was still out there. On that series, he got beat for a score and missed an easy shot. You can clearly see that the Nets know that Hayes is absolutely no threat on offence. Bad move.

    Putting Salmons on Johnson was a nightmare. Salmons was terrible in every facet of the game. Giving him a second run was just downright insulting.

  • Stef 511

    Aside from DeMar having the worst peripheral vision in the world (those ridiculous turnovers that happen with confounding regularity), I also don’t much care for his habit of slowing d-o-w-n when he gets the ball outside and then slow dribbles and waits like he’s expecting an opening to magically appear .. only to be surrounded and trapped just like the last time. I always imagine his own voice saying to himself “let’s see what crafty-cool move I can do here .. and … nnnow I’m pretty much fucked.” Seems to happen at least twice every damn game. And then we see that lack of peripheral vision ..

    • Steverino

      Yep, he holds the ball for too long. They should run plays where he just needs to catch and shoot or drive.

    • FREEJV

      JV was open on every pick and roll derozan just doesnt wanna give him the ball cuz he knows it ll be his team soon.

  • Bendit

    Seriously, the Raptors have some problem with afternoon games. Ross played like he was still in deep rem.

  • Chewwy No Matthew

    The one Raptors who isn’t fazed by anything is Lowry and time and time again, the Nets tried to take him out of his game mentally. Lowry showed that he is rock solid mentally. Garnett took a shot at him and Blatche grabbed his leg. Lowry calmly went up to teh free throw line and hit the technical. The Nets will not knock him off his game.
    On another note, we got to witness the brutal last play of the first half. De Colo get’s set up in the corner with a perfect pass for a wide open 3 with less than 2 seconds left and instead of shooting it he passes it out to nobody. Trust me when I say, it was a wide open look.

    • Steverino

      I’d also say Vasquez didn’t look fazed at all.

    • FREEJV

      novak should ve been in that corner instead of the left corner. again the small details cost raptors the game. that play is on casey cuz you knew they were gonna collapse on lowry. if that was novak there it would ve been splash.

  • Alex

    Alright, I’m sorry, T-Ross does not deserve a D-. The small part of the game where he was in, I saw him actually try and be productive and confident and he took solid shits and had solid looks. Just because his shot didn’t fall right away, Casey took him out. I say we should let ross take as many damn shots as he wants because if he gets into a groove, he is nearly impossible to stop.

    • Musik

      He was terrible on defense.

      • james

        And committed stupid fouls

  • Foreel

    We played bad but Casey is not a smart man. Salmons on Johnson? Hayes? No foul or full court press at the end of game? No plays for jv? I don’t understand

  • Mexiballer

    Something must be wrong with Amir that we dont know about. How can he wait all these years to play his first Raptors playoff game be so absent. We need him to play like the Amir we know if were going to have any chance in this series.

    • FREEJV

      Amir didnt bring the intensity plain and simple. lets stop finding excuses for him we barely played him during the last stretch of the season he had plenty of time to rest. if paul pierce brings more intensity than you at age 50 then somethings wrong with you.

      • Mexiballer

        If thats true….Its inexcusable. I just find it hard to believe right now, especially since he has had a series of bad games to end the season. That’s why Im thinking that he is not right. But if he is fine and good to go, then he better get his shit together fast.

        • FREEJV

          even KG brought more intensity than him with his washed up body. you gotta be kidding me . Amir was invisible

          • Mexiballer

            Kidding you? If you re-read you’ll see I was agreeing with you. I just saw that Amir said in the post game interview that he feels great. So there is no excuse for him not flying all over the place like he is supposed do to come playoff time.
            He has been the heart and soul and energy of this team for years. Where the hell was he?

  • Chewwy No Matthew

    I have to give a shout out to the fans both inside and outside the ACC. The atmosphere was amazing. The Canadian National anthem was a scene that I will never forget. I apologize for forgetting his name but the guy who sung the US anthem, held up his mike halfway through his version of the Canadian one and let the crowd sing it from there to the end. I still get goose bumps thinking about it. Absolutely incredible moment!! Applause to him for the great gesture and applause to the Toronto crowd

  • Andre Julian Ward

    We need to feed JV the ball. Brooklyn has no center …

  • LetsbeattheNets

    Nets played really well, and so did the Raptors actually (for Game 1). As much as people are nauseated by veteranship being tossed around a lot as the deciding factor. I don’t think Raptor players are taking it seriously ENOUGH. More specifically DeRozan. He brushed it off a lot, thinking it’s hogwash. But now, I think he’s thinking that yes experience is very important. DeRozan did not come prepared enough. Getting nervous in high-pressure is inevitable whether you come prepared to a game or not. But it’s the preparation that allows the player to focus on the small details and nailing them, and then gradually getting in the zone and then having a lot of confidence. There were a lot of mental mistakes in the game that DeRozan made that was due to not being prepared enough, not anticipating the offence and defence of the Nets, and he was just a downhill spiral of mistakes after mistakes. Also Raptors as a team made an error not to prepare enough for Williams.

    I expected a lot of turnovers by Raptors, I expected DeRozan to have a frustrating day, I expected Lowry to be our boss, and I expected the Nets to come ready to handle the excruciating pressure of the crowd this afternoon. What I didn’t expect was Valanciunas having an absolutely great night for him (he came prepared and shut down KG in the half, though letting go of the gas pedal a little bit in the 4th quarter), Johnson having a difficult game (I guess it happens).

    Everyone is thinking that the 3day off is a great thing for the Nets because they’re old. I think otherwise, Raptors had a bitter taste of playoff battle and will have time to reflect and I hope they’re looking at videos and breaking down things at this very moment, to win Game 2.

    I believe the Raptors squad are a bunch of tough resilient soldiers. The longer the series goes on the better the Raptors get and Nets will continue to be great, but the Raptors are the ones that IF THEY take these 3 days of rest seriously and prepare for the Nets diligently will come out on top. If the Nets are smart, which I DON’T think they are, they will try to end this series as soon as possible.

    • Haim not Feldman

      Agree with 3rd para. Casey and staff need to do an all-nighter and figure this out before they find themselves down 0-2. If by halftime Tuesday it already looks desperate, Casey needs to take a huge gamble and put TRoss at SG and this time put true small forwards in the game. Platoon Landry Fields, Steve Novak and “John Candy” Salmons, with Candy third in order. They better be in their driveways now practicing. Also, use Hansbrough when the “opportunities” present themselves.

  • rapierraptor

    Brooklyn bent our defense all game (no surprise – that’s what the small ball line up is designed to do), leaving our bigs vulnerable or out of position at the basket time after time. Vasquez showed a fearlessness that you need in the playoffs and hit some big 3s but his decision making was sub par and he allowed his guy a clear path to the rim way too often.

    Nothing particularly surprising. Keep feeding Jonas and correct the lapses on both ends. Credit to Brooklyn. There were very few easy shots this game. Their effort levell was there. Funky team.

  • KJ-B

    After JV, Vazquez was the best player on the court–ball stuck way too many times. Casey coach like a new born out there–why was Ross on the floor to pick up his 3rd and why was DeRozan on the bench after a weak 2nd foul?!?

    Lowry, nice numbers but you didn’t lead the team–got into the offense way too late and gave up a bunch on the defensive end. I liked that DeColo/Vazquez/DeRozan perimeter… Lowry had way too much freedom –not sure how he missed DeRozan for the alley out of the timeout or Patrick for the 3 at the end of the 1st. RAPTORS SQUARE WAS FIYAH!!!

  • Mexiballer

    I really hope this loss leads to unwrapping Landry Fields and letting him play some defense. It may or may not work but it has to be worth a try.

    • DC

      If Casey is too stubborn to give Fields a try – before it’s too late – he has lost my vote for a new contract.

      • Mexiballer

        Im a Casey supporter but it kind of makes me shake my head as to why he wont give Fields an opportunity.
        Its as head shaking as Amir Johnson’s effort today.

  • DDayLewis

    Guys…

    FUCK BROOKLYN

  • Mexiballer

    How come Fluxland has been allowed to Troll on this site all season long?

  • IC

    DeRozan was completely out of sorts today. Looked like Rudy Gay at his worst all game. Normally he can make up for his poor shooting with at least one very good quarter of ball, but he didn’t even have that tonight. Valanciunas is a beast and he really has been showing us a lot of his great potential this past month or so. If DeRozan had just played his usual game, which is still based on poor shooting, but not ass poor as it was tonight, the Raps could have taken this game. I don’t buy the whole ref not making calls argument. That may have contributed to the loss, but we did this to ourselves and I blame DeRozan more than anybody. Valanciunas, Lowry, Vasquez – well done. DeRozan needs to step his game up. Fuck Brooklyn.

  • mike, prague

    The shot-clock had eyes tonight.

  • Ted

    Trust me it can get worse with Salmons. The guy was horrible but it can get worse

    • FREEJV

      0 pts in 13 minutes. is there such thing as negative points? lmao

      • Ted

        I expect Salmons to ignite in a confrontation with Paul Pierce when the Raps are up 10. 10mins later Pierce is on fire and the Nets have grabbed the lead.

  • RobertArchibald

    That was a lesson in playoff basketball. Way too much panic here. It’s a 7-game series. They know the whistle now, they know the style of play. If they lose next game, it’s over, but I expect a better strategy and effort. Everyone looked timid and intimidated except JV. Gotta get past that, the Nets aren’t superstars anymore. Can’t be scared of them.

  • Reminder

    2 words – Andre Drummond

    • DDayLewis

      One word: troll

  • mountio

    Good game. Great atmosphere. This series is simple. Joe Johnson kills us. Forces a double team or scores the floater at will. Not sure what we can do (other than double every play). We cant win with DD and TR playgin anywhere near as bad as they did. DD especially. (TR a little mind-fucked by fouls).
    Considering how bad we played, we were lucky to even be around. However, if we dont pick it up in game 2, we are done. Amazing athmosphere, great game. Tough, tough result

    • FREEJV

      how bout we put fields on JJ. i think he can hold his ground in the post unlike demar “soft” derozan who gets bullied in the post and then complains to JV when he gets scored on. fuckin clown. i wanted to slap him today for being such a dumbass.

  • dunkmycat7

    Deer -meet Headlites.
    Looked just like a rookie playoff team.
    He’s what I saw :
    Their backcourt and wings killed our backcourt and wings.KL was great on O, super effort but D-will went off on him in the first half and then it was Iso and Stephenson killing us. T.Ross looked like he didn’t have a clue. A day late and a dollar short on all his coverage’s and what does that mean? BIG doses of JS (arrgh !!). And btw- that goes for you too DD and AJ. INVISIBLE.
    So – IS Laundry sick or has he pissed off DC or are they not playing him because he can’t shoot anymore. Because his D is FAR BETTER than what we showed today and ruined shot or no ruined shot…we gotta STOP the perimeter scoring or this series is OVER. PP does NOTHING FOR 85% of the game and then…DAGGERS.
    JV was GREAT in the first qtr., so WHY TF do the Raps always seem to give up on this EVEN WHEN IT’S SUCCESSFUL.KG is done,they can’t seem to stop JV – but if you give him the ball down low- he’s gotta MAKE all the point blank 3 footers.
    And the referees ? OMFG how is the NBA NOT TOTALLY EMBARRASSED by these clowns ? I expected a slight disadvantage on the REP CALLS. I didn’t expect it to be SO obvious. Is it correct that the Nets had ZERO foul calls in the 4th qtr ? wonder if that has EVER happened before in the history of the NBA?
    And DC-WTF were you thinking when the Nets went off on a 18-2 run in the 1st half and you decided to call a time out ….NEVER ???They were getting drilled couldn’t make a shot and you waited and waited and waited…HOW MANY TIMES did this happen in the reg season where you totally FAILED to recognize your team is in trouble. Rookie mistake.
    Can we beat this team ?
    Yes we can.
    Gotta play D,
    Gotta make some shots.
    Gotta show up with your big boy pants on.
    Go Raps.

    • mountio

      Well said. Still trying to collect my thoughts in a drunken fog … but for the most part agree.
      DD really shite the bed .. that was biggest issue.
      Tross in foul trouble, so was awful also.
      Despite this, we stuck in there pretty well.
      On D, we have ZERO answer for JJ. It might look like Dwill was the issue, but he wasnt at all. He was the product of other guys getting open looks and double teams.
      Amir was horrible.
      Not sure what to do with PP, but if you are going to leave a 4 out there on him (AJ, PP), then would have to make him pay on the other end. We didnt do that at all.
      JV was a beast. No other way to say it. Need to get him more touches. KG is legitimately over the hill (vs Pierce who is old, but old man effective)
      Greasy was huge .. without him, we lose by 20
      GREAT crowd, although a more positive performance and the place would have gone nuts.
      Lets pick it up in game 2

  • johng_3

    Great to see Commish Siver in the house to make sure his plan is in order

    • FREEJV

      lmaooo. at the end i think he was leaving with like 20 secs left and nets up big. in his mind he was saying “mission accomplished now onto the heat bobcats game to make sure miami wins that and these 2 meet up in 2 nd round”

  • Niagara_dude

    This team should lost out after they secured division (winning in Detroit last week was not smart),we would have forced the Nets to try and win if they wanted to play us.The third seed had nothing great to offer, even if you get by this tough team Miami is there waiting.We also failed to get any back center help at the trade deadline and i am sorry but Chuck Hayes offer us nothing on offence.As for the game today, they need to start moving faster on offence or we will play right into the Nets hands.The Nets can be beat when you run and this the time to run and not let them play grinding type of game.

  • Marco belchior GOON

    Casey deserves an F.
    I didn’t see any adjustments at all offense or defense. In fact he got worse as the game went on. I k ow I’m repeating everyone but the fact that JV shoots out highest percentage and was playing well but got no touches in the fourth is asinine !
    Also how does Paul pierce get wide open for jumpers in the fourth and derozan can’t even get a peak at the rim. Icing DD in the second after his firt playoff quarter killed him. He should’ve shown faith in his star and let him play through it early. I knew at that point he would struggle for the remainder of the game. Chuck Hayes had no biz being in there in the fourth either. He serves no purpose in this game.
    The refs are what they are. It is kind of 8 on 5 but still the coach needs to coach and he didn’t. Casey is not good

    • mountio

      chuck hayes. vets win games

  • Niagara_dude

    As for refs the reaily stuck and were one sided, there is no way playing man to man defence that the Nets did not commit a foul in the 4th .The raptors need to play fast and drive to the basket, no more dribble hand-offs and deep jump shots late in the clock.This includes everyone (talking to you Ross/DD & Amir) who all sucked today and cost us the game.

  • Niagara_dude

    Also Raptors should send tape footage to the NBA offices and include 7-8 secs in key by Garnett and big time missed travel call that was not made on PP.

    • Real ngga form the steert

      the commissioner was at the game.

  • Bryan Colangelo

    The issue in a nutshell — we need two of Amir, Patterson or JV to run the offense properly. They set the picks and back screens that Demar and Ross to get open looks. Problem is none of those guys can guard Pierce well, or Johnson on a switch.

    Without two bigs, it allows the Brooklyn defense to load up on the strong side and forces Demar and Ross to create. It’s just not going to work.

    They should just stick to their Horns offense, try to keep the Nets bigs in foul trouble at make either Pierce or Johnson try to beat them with a 30-40 pt game.

  • ad

    Amir and DD werre awfuuulll today. Reffing was not good, but tis is precisely why I didnt want bkn. They have guys like pierce with ice water in their veins. Amir has to improve. This guy has been getting a lot of love ads a key cog from the media and people on this forum and others. DD as well but i had a feeling he would get manhandled in the playoffs. Bkn was 4-23 from 3 or something like that. This could have easily been a blowout. I really hope its not 07 all over again.

  • Kingkong

    Despite BRKLYN NETS win, they have exposed their biggest and most obvious weakness. They are weak in the middle. Neither KG nor PLUME can match JV or any big size centre in the Eastern Conference.

  • RPT23

    This was a good game for the rookie playoff players. Definitely an eye opener. It’s pretty obvious who had their first playoff game jitters out there but I have all the confidence they’ll bounce back. The team was basically in the game without our two starters scoring their average and a PF who may or may not be at 100% just yet. I would think most of the players aside from KLOE and maybe the General were just in awe to be in a pumped up house, where their fans where bringing the ruckus to all the muthafuckus!! I think it’s exciting that they lost this first game since now we’ll get to see how Casey bounces back, what adjustments will he make and what type of “wrinkles” is he going to throw into the offense or maybe not. Peeps forget that this is still a young team with most of the starters first taste of playoffs. They all worked hard to get to this point and I’m sure they won’t want to waste this opportunity again. It’s up to the vets (or the Raptors vets) to remind them of what got them here in the first place. The team has just begun to play… I think this is going to go to 7 games…

  • jakdripr

    Could be worse, we could be down 17 at gome to the atlanta hawks. Next game is a must win though, we take that and then get a split in BKN and it’s all good. We just gotta go inside more, I like how the raptors tried to run more against the Nets but we should also try going to JV more often. The Nets don’t have an answer to him.

  • Rapchat

    Haha Pacers getting boo’d out the building…

    • tonious35

      Dear God….. for 1.5 months the Pacers have their pants down in a high security penitentiary, and they are hand-hockey-ing a bar of soap in the shower room. They need a belt!

    • Eunys

      That is why I am really mad…because if we were on the wizzard…pacers path..we will be in the conference..finals

  • Rupert

    We lost and the similarities between this and 2007 are scary but this team is different they hav an edge and a toughness and now that everyone will ride them off they will show up this team has a different mentality a “f*** brooklyn” mentality i think they will show up because they are better than the nets and they wont let this oppurtunity slip by.

  • tonious35

    i can’t Guarantee this idea will work, but you think we might need some Landry Fields for a dozen minutes?

    • Bryan Colangelo

      No. It’s not like Brooklyn lit up the scoreboard. The problem is that is our offense looks goes to absolute shit when we try to go small or match-up with Brooklyn’s perimeter players. Our wings just aren’t good enough ball handlers to create their own shots. Landry Fields isn’t going to fix that.

      • FREEJV

        landry moves without ball. he actually has a quick first step and can get to the rim. however his shooting might give you the goosebumps. Thats how bad it is lmaoooo

  • Torontohugefan1990

    DD sucked, amir sucked, ross sucked, salmons is for real the worst pro-basketball player.
    Lowry vasquez and JV showed no fear and thats what you need in the playoffs

  • james

    I just watched the crowd reaction videos on YouTube I feel so mad that they lose that game. The place had a century link field type fell to it. After watch that the raps have to win this series. If DD and T-ross don’t play like shit I still believe that the raps win in 6

  • Z Master

    I really thought this should be a easy series for raps as we got so many advantages: 1) Home court, 2) better team chemistry 3) Rebound 4) Better Center 5) Better Point Guard 6) Better Shooting Guard). Nets nets has no inside scorer no off rebound as well as no blow by guard penetration to cause defense breakdown. These are areas toronto usually have trouble with other teams. All nets rely on is old timer stars play off each other, creating mismatches, and go isolation with most of the times end it up with contested 2 point shot. As a long time fan, I’m use to 0 help with ref over the years when it comes to raptor games. All I ever ask for is call a fair game. because we all know when it comes to raptor games, it’s either a fair game or getting robbed. Today I say is below fair. That’s only part of the reason we lost, second is on DD having the worst game of the season, I can live with 3 for 13 but nothing else is the problem. he’s a none factor when he’s not rebounding and passing and playing defense. Is it the experience? I’m not buying it, just look at JV. third reason is coach casey, I love his passion and preach on defense but his stubborness on consistantly playing vets when they are under performing needs to be point out and corrected. He also as a coach lacks creativity in match ups. I give him credit for not playing novak today because nets usually picks him apart when he’s on the court, and Amir is clearly not healthy enough to chase after paul pierce but what was he thinking playing hayes extensive minutes over tyler hansbrough? and in the fourth quarter JV didn’t get back in until the 5 min mark! during that span raptors give up a few defensive reb for nets second chance points as well as 0 off reb.
    I love my raptors for 20 years, so i feel I need to speak up. This is what I would do if I’m the coach. First of all in the off season we need a rim protector/shot blocker/rebounder. and the best person come to my mind is Joel Anthney. He will be the perfect fit for us second unit. Now back to the game. Clearly I see now there’s no one on our team that can contain Joe Johnson and Paul Pierce, so I would roll the dice and play big to force nets to adjust by occausionally playing JV, hansbrough, and Patterson at the same time, ask them all to crash the boards and dominate off rebs. No team playing 4 guards all game should go without punished on the inside. As long as we dominate Rebounds every game, this series will be ours. I’m begging please No More Hayes! focus on net’s weakness which is REBOUND!

  • Eunys

    Honestly…we played better when Amir was injured…line up was much effective…Terrence Ross said he was good at math when he was in school..he should have sticked to it…the guy always looks sleepy !!! no energy …never …!!!

  • asifyouknow

    No need to panic this is only one game. The moment got to DeMar, Ross and JV. Lowry tried to pick it all up but was very sloppy with the possessions. He looked like a playground star.

    I’ll be dam, Vasquez, as I’ve been telling you, has been playing like his old self since the all star game and doing what he does best, hit big shots in big games at the right time.

    Vaz came in 14 points down and directed the offense (10-2 run) back to a point or two, then in the second half with Raptors down by eight he took them back again to contend. Most important he was a calming influence on the flow of the offense.

    This has been happening multiple times ( I keep track) since the all star game, but I guess is just luck or as the haters would say “just coincidence“. I guess is better to be lucky than good.

    I posted a comment in one of the Raptor Republic articles that Toronto would not be able to stop the NETS guards and that proved to be the case. Lowry and DeMar got pistol whipped in that first quarter.

    Some observations:

    1) NINETEEN turnover’s by Toronto just don’t cut it, most of them were the -dribbling off foot variety- I love DeMar, I call him a mini MJ but the guy can’t dribble his ass out of the Grand Canyon.

    For some reason a coach in Casey’s staff did not figure out that the NETS were going to let him take every three he wanted, I assume the other team knows he is a 30% shooter from downtown.

    I seen DeMar miss Lowry and JV multiple times. NBA TV juts showed JV waiving his arms for about 8 seconds -wide open with clear path to the bucket- and DeMar ignored him or did not see him. By far the worse game I’ve seen him play all year.

    2) Amir looked tired or hurt, he got beat to the ball just about every time. It appeared there were a million put backs by the NETS, that might of been the game right there.

    3) This amazed me: Three of the Raptors starters add up a shooting stat of 5-19 ! I not good at math but that is about 26% IN A BIG PLAYOFF GAME where starters should be stepping up their game rather than diminish it.

    Casey needs to start Vasquez along with DeMar and Lowry, they need to keep that ball moving, those guys are old and won’t keep up into the fourth quarter, but you got to force them to chase you, a Vaz. Lowry and DeMar will accomplish that as long as they don’t try to play hero ball.

    I think they will leave Toronto with a split. So calm down folks! I think they can beat this bums.

    Go raptors.

  • Amigo

    And Wiggins Parker will make history. Told you so. No Mans Land baby, reality checks in

  • gizzly73

    Lowry out of control half the time. I believe this was his first playoff game and it showed big time. Tons of heart and desire, but he forced a ton of shots and looked and played like a rookie, mind you, bad games by AJ and DD led to him trying to take the whole Nets team on by himself. Disappointing after the season he had. Chuck Hayes is a brutal liability out there.

  • Rap fan 2

    The problem with Demar having problems with his offense is that you need to have him making less isolation plays. He has not quite developed his dribbling skills to the point where he can blow by his defender. He needs some herky jerky moves. He needs to get into his offense before the defense can setup. We need to get Demar into his offense more via passing and cuts. More passing and player movement a la San Antonio Spurs. I think Demar was 3 for 13. That’s not going to cut it in playoff basketball. Every possession is critical. We also need to get Terrence Ross involved in the offense. Make use of his quickness, athleticism and shooting touch. We did have someone who could guard the Joe Johnsons and Paul Pierces of the world. He was Rudy Gay. At this point everybody needs to step up their defensive intensity. We need to bring the attitude. We need great intensity right from the start of the game.

    • Rap fan 2

      We also need to run more plays attacking the basket. Get more foul calls. Run more plays for Jonas. Run more plays at Pierce and Joe Johnson. Make them defend. Try to get them into foul trouble. Attacking and making a play at the basket should be the first option on offense. Dunks and lay ups. Especially right from the start of the game. Attacking the basket is not a soft play. It’s probably going to be painful. Also expect the Nets to attack the basket. You need to hit them hard and be physical when attack our rim. We need to lay the wood on them.

  • Rapchat

    Still an exciting game. There are 4 potential all stars in this series (KL, DD, DW, JJ).. DD is the ONLY one who didn’t show up and at least score his avg. If he only scored his avg we win by 1, despite playing a shitty game. I thought the Refs were actually decent, and by decent I mean typical, at least till the fourth.

    • FLUXLAND

      Militant, eh?

      • Rapchat

        You didn’t watch? We had the lead in the forth, and lost by 7 despite our leading scorer being a non factor, on top of no calls in the forth. We still pushed hard. I’d say that’s MILITANT. BK’s best, played their best, at least from a scoring aspect. How’d ya like that Indy game? The best part was when they cut to the huddle Vogel was yelling at his team saying (Teague) “that guy was a top 5 (something) this year”… he used a regular season stat….IN A PLAYOFF game. Go figure. I thought of you :)

        • FLUXLAND

          Oh, I watched “the best 4th q team of the season” have a meltdown. But, I have no clue how you figure BK played their best scoring wise, seeing how many wide open 3s they missed. (And then that clown DC takes credit for “stopping the 3”)

          I think there’s an APB out for Roy H. Frank used a ranking as a motivational point and ATL played out of their minds.

          • Rapchat

            You thought the Raps had a meltdown? Nah, they never got hot to begin with. They played a pretty typical game in terms of energy and it almost won it for them in the “4TH QUARTER” despite the shitty game.

            You have no clue how I figure BK played their best scoring wise? You don’t? Hmmm, I will give you two options here, A) scroll up a few comments and read my original post or B) Since it was such a basic summary I will be happy to say it in a more understandable way for you right here… BK’s top two scorers, scored as they normally would, if not better, in terms of points, and ours didn’t. That is all.

            Why do we use stats around here? As a motivational tool? Hmmmm. So, to be clear, Frank is allowed to use regular season stats to motivate that shit stain of a team (ala Hibberts face at the end ahahahahahaha) but fans on this site shouldn’t use regular season stats to motivate themselves? That sounds hypocritical to me.

            • FLUXLAND

              Maybe you need to take a look at the last 5 minutes again, while you are blaming the refs. With the game still close (score wise) Jumper, jumper, jumper… but yeah, those refs, eh? And those were after the score was tied… but, no meltdown according to you.. obviously refs, right?

              I missed the “BK’s best” played their best scoring wise.. but I dunno how 4 /11 from 3 on wide open shots is their best. If you say so. They abused everyone in the paint, sure… their best,overall? In your books maybe.

              Well, you use stats around here to prove/argue how successful the team will be in the POs. I guess in your world that’s the same as motivation. Everything sounds hypocritical to you because you make up your arguments to fit your narrative, but maybe you should pay a little more attention to what is being said and a little less laughing while you’re making no sense.

              • Rapchat

                There you go again putting words in peoples mouth. I never said it was the nets best overall. It was a POINTS COMPARISON of the supposed 4 best players in this series. Again, that is all.

                I never blamed the refs, I blamed DD. Still, no calls in the forth isn’t odd?

                People come on this site for motivation, yes. We all know you are not one of those people.

                Amazingly, despite getting shit on every day for your stupid comments, you think its EVERYONE else who doesn’t make sense. You simply must like the taste of it.

                • FLUXLAND

                  Umm, 4/11 was for their best players, the overall was for them, not the team. Again, comprehension.

                  No calls when you are not driving? Yeah, very odd.

                  Getting shit on? You mean trolled by people that don’t what they are talking about? Yes, I find it very amusing.

                • Rapchat

                  Comprehension? My points were made on all of the above. Clearly, comprehension is an issue here. I know you like getting shit on cuz you engage with me. I like shitting on people like you. That’s how I know you like it, so this is great for both of us. Troll? Who’s post is this? The one that talked about an exciting Raptor game? Yo yo..

                • FLUXLAND

                  Your points are of the troll kind. Thanks for admitting you are one.

      • Rapchat

        Bahahaha why’d you edit this comment??

        • FLUXLAND

          To add AJ showed up?

          Since you are claiming ONLY DD didn’t.

          • Rapchat

            Idiot. I mentioned 4 players in my original comment. AJ was not one of them. What does this edit say now?

            • FLUXLAND

              Who cares? I countered that he wasn’t the ONLY one. Regardless of your caveat.

              • Rapchat

                Who cares? It just goes to show your willingness to stay on the actual topic, without putting a spin on it.

                • FLUXLAND

                  That’s rich coming from you. The guy spinning a coach using stats like fans. Troll.

                • Rapchat

                  HAHAHAHAHAH that really makes you mad? I simply mentioned that he did that. It was ironic. FYI stats are there to be used…by anyone.

  • Dudi Bodi

    well one team has 2 future hall of famers and two all star caliber guards. The other don’t. Then throw in the experience and the fact we are Canadians and you get the formula that would make the Nets win this 4-1.At the end of the day Amir, DeRozen and Ross killed us. This Nets team is beatable and if they beat Toronto they won’t get out of second round.The game was lost on unforced errors. Not being strong or smart enough.

  • BKNets are better than the TOR

    Look. The Nets are better than the Raptors, ok? Just because the Raptors are 3rd and the Nets are in 6th doesn’t mean sh*t. The Raptors should have won, but not for the reasons you think. Want to know why the Raptors should have won? Cause the refs suck balls. They clearly have no experience. They must have been hired on the spot. Now, coming to how they could have won, the refs clearly are biased for the Raptors. Lowry made fouls that most of them were not even called for. Then, Lowry is given so many free throws that should not have been given. Right now, I am watching Game Two, and the Nets are off to a pretty bad start. Want to know why? Cause of the refs. The Nets were called for a foul when it wasn’t even a foul! Jonas Valanciunas stumbled, he was not tripped! Look at the perspective of both sides before you jump to conclusions. Honestly, without these crappy refs, this series would be better. We all can tell that this series is going to be horrible, so we all can probably say that this series would have gone better without these refs. One last thing that I would like to say is that the Nets shut up that crowd pretty well for a team playing in horrible conditions! Anyways, hope the best team wins (probably going to be the Nets)!

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