Since their series against the Brooklyn Nets began four games ago, these Toronto Raptors have committed 64 turnovers.

Of these Raptors’ key contributors, three (Kyle Lowry, Amir Johnson, and Patrick Patterson) are noticeably hobbled. Another – DeMar DeRozan – was knocked around numerous times during the second half of last night’s contest. Terrence Ross has been ineffective, to say the least, Landry Fields didn’t play last night due to back spasms, and Jonas Valanciunas has struggled to stay on the floor with foul trouble.

These Raptors are dealing with a major experience disadvantage, with their opponents boasting two hall-of-famers (three if you count Jason Kidd) and four former all-stars in their starting lineup.

These Raptors haven’t been granted any favours by the officiating crew. Yes, it’s been atrocious both ways, but there have been a multitude of close calls that have gone the Nets’ way – the most egregious of which arguably swung game three.

These Raptors, by the way, are heading back to Toronto with the series tied at two games apiece.

To say that the results have been a tad surprising given the product we’ve seen on the court is an understatement. At one point during last night’s game, the Raptors were 1-16 from the field in the second half and legitimately looked at a loss. The collective vitriol/confusion was evident in the Twittersphere, with every variation of “how are we winning this game?” being thrown around by someone at some point.

Yet as the clock waned down in the fourth quarter, there we stood, up by eight points. Somehow, some way, these Raptors had found a way to pull it out. Again.

From a long angle, no, it didn’t really make sense. From a long angle, though, nothing about this magical season has really made all that much sense.

Yet for some reason, this team, this group of guys, continues to rewrite the script that surrounds this franchise and this city’s sports scene. In the moment, everything makes sense.

Of course the Raptors managed to find a way to win. They’re the Raptors. And the fact that that means what it does this year tells you everything you need to know about this game.

Nobody on this team cares what makes sense any more. They’re past being told how good they’re supposed to be, how games are supposed to be won. Journeymen point guards aren’t supposed to be in the upper echelon of NBA players. Second year small forwards aren’t supposed to score 50 points in a game. One dimensional jump shooters aren’t supposed to be All Stars averaging 4 assists per contest. Teams with injured starters who can’t hit a shot are supposed to roll over, not lock down.

The Raptors threw out the script a long time ago. The result has been one hell of a roller coaster ride.

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Unedited Podcast: Game 4 Reaction with Zarar (@CornerSniper), Will, and Tamberlyn (@TTOTambz)

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Kyle Lowry is the man who drives the engine for the Raptors, and any breakdown of how the team was able to gut out this win starts with him. He’s been noticeably hurt all series – his limp is evident – yet he still finds the will to bum-rush into the lane like a mini Dwyane Wade, step out and take charges, and gamble for steals while saddled with five fouls. In short: this is a man who you legitimately feel would give everything for this team, and that culture has seeped its way across the locker room.

If he’ll do it for us, we need to do it for him.

Lowry ended the night with 22 points on 7-17 shooting and 4 assists – not his finest boxscore, but enough on a night where points were very difficult to come by. Having a leader like this is a damn fine quality for a basketball team to have, and in a series where the smallest of edges may tip the scales, it’s a rather large checkmark on the Raptors’ side of the tally.

Amir Johnson, of course, is the other side of this coin. Playing on a bum leg like Lowry, he showed tonight why he’s the darling of the analytics crowd – diving through the lane on pick and rolls for a very effective 17 points on 7-11 shooting. We’ve spent the entire series crowing over Johnson’s inability to expose Paul Pierce down low – his two missed three pointers in game 3 didn’t help matters – and last night was an excellent example of what happens when he’s utilized on the pick and roll against two smaller defenders. Take a look at his shot chart, which is a thing of beauty:

amirshotchartAlthough it was Amir and Lowry’s late-game heroics which sealed the game for the Raps, it was their young All-Star who got them going in the first half. It’s difficult to explain it to someone who may have missed the game, and you won’t get it from his box score line, but DeMar DeRozan was looking absolutely unstoppable for the first 20 minutes of this game. Some of his catch and shoot “no, no…. YES!!” long-twos were real, real difficult shots (two were and-1s, and another was a contested corner 3), but once he began rolling, it was hard to believe that he wasn’t going to go for 40 points in this one.

That didn’t happen, obviously, but it bodes well going forward – both in this series and in his career – to see him stepping up and taking the team on his shoulders. A friend told me last week that Paul Pierce is the perfect player for DeMar to see in his first playoff series, and it’s an apt comparison. DeRozan has already proven he can seize the moment; his most important adjustment, now, is to figure out when that moment should be.

All this waxing poetic isn’t to say that there aren’t some warts to work out. The coaching this series has been… inconsistent, let’s say, and questionable lineup decisions once again appeared to play into the game’s narrative. The most confusing lineup we saw on the floor was a Vasquez/DeRozan/Salmons/Novak/Hayes abomination that began the fourth quarter while Jonas Valanciunas sat on the sidelines for no apparent reason.

Jonas was one of the Raptor contributors who managed to avoid foul trouble – he finished the game with 4 – and his second half-benching (he was pulled with 9 minutes remaining in the third quarter, returned with 8 minutes remaining in the fourth, and played 3 and a half minutes before being removed again) was simply perplexing. It’s evident, at least to me, that Jonas > Garnett/Blatche/whoever is the biggest mismatch the Raptors have, and to simply sit him down in favour of Chuck Hayes still confuses me. In this case, though, Casey and his staff were spared repercussions (and it’s not like I didn’t understand the decision to go with Patterson and Amir late in the game), but decisions like this – where it honestly seems like the most likely outcome is that Casey forgot Jonas was sitting on his bench – are, again, small ones that could have major implications in a series this close.

The third quarter in its entirety, actually, was a disaster. The Raptors shot 19 per cent for the quarter after going through the aforementioned 1-16 rut, and a good amount of those shots were either DeRozan or Vasquez isolation plays that led to contested long jumpers. DeRozan needs to be continually reminded that he’s not Rudy Gay – he’s a highly skilled offensive player, but the team is far more effective when he’s driving and dishing and being selective in his shot attempts, rather than throwing up everything in sight. It’s a sign of immaturity and perhaps a little nervousness, and it will come, but the Jekyll and Hyde nature of that playing style came out in full force tonight. It was almost too predictable that once DeRozan was pulled late in the quarter, the offence opened up and the Raptors began digging themselves out of their hole.

In the fourth quarter, though, the mettle of these Toronto Raptors was overwhelmingly evident. Gone were the isolation plays (well, most of them) and passive defence, replaced instead by excellent ball movement and the most tenacious team D we’ve seen all season. The Nets hit their last field goal of the game with 6 minutes and 11 seconds remaining in the fourth. Think about that.

This team was able to bring their collective intensity up to the level required when it was required most – something that’s a breath of fresh air for Toronto sports fans weaned on the disappointing Raptors, Jays, and Leafs over past decades. It’s the reason that having the best fourth quarter point differential in the league wasn’t a meaningless stat.

These Raptors know how to bring their game to a new level, and what we saw tonight on the defensive end late was truly inspiring stuff, particularly when you take all the aforementioned injuries and foul trouble (both Lowry and Amir played out the game with 5) into account. It’s stretches like this where all of the warts – the DeRozan iso play, Casey’s questionable coaching decisions – don’t seem so large in retrospect. Every player on this team has a role to play, and their coach has done an excellent job of soliciting the buy-in required to play defence at that level for that extended of a period of time.

It was remarkable to watch – and yes, to echo Will’s quick reaction, I wasn’t quite sure how in the hell the Raptors managed to pull out the victory. But they did. The series is now a best of 3 affair, and, assuming the Raptors’ bodies hold up, it’s hard not to think that momentum has swung firmly back in our favour.

There are a lot of comments out there saying that the Raps, at some point, will have to string together a full game’s worth (at least) of good basketball. Maybe, though, that’s missing the point.

Have we gotten four games of a team running on all cylinders? No. Not even close.

Have we gotten four games where the Raptors have collectively outscored Brooklyn in the fourth quarter by 20 points? Yes.

Have we gotten four games of gritty, hard nosed, never say die basketball? Yes.

Have we gotten four games of solid collective team defence? Yes.

In short, what we’ve gotten is four games of Raptors basketball. And like tonight, maybe, just maybe, that’ll be enough.

Game 5 goes Wednesday. Get loud, people. Your heroes are coming home.

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  • Marz

    The key here is we only had 10 turnovers for the game. It shows that the Raptors are, in fact, capable of taking care of the ball. If this trend continues, the Raptors win the series.

    • arsenalist

      Ironic part about that stat is this was the game where the Nets applied the most pressure.

      • SR

        I wonder if giving JV fewer touches was part of the adjustment for bringing down the TO’s. It’s easy to hit 20 TO’s when one of your starters, who’s not even a ball handler, is turning the ball over 5 times in a game. JV has a huge size advantage in the post, but the Nets were constantly swatting the ball away from him. He’s still too deliberate in setting up most of his post moves, and the Nets don’t give him that time at all. Give JV 2 more years of development and he would tear Brooklyn apart, but at this point that’s a glaring weakness that Brooklyn knows they can feast on.

        • moisosorry

          There seemed to be a concerted effort to use JV as a screener early. I loved that. One, it gets KG away from the basket. Two, it targets the
          one guy in BK’s starting lineup who can’t just switch everything, which forces them to recover on D much more than they’d been doing in the first three games.

          • Northbound

            Yep it was all about forcing blatche, garnett, plumlee to come out into the perimeter.
            Next game the nets will be ready for that. We have learned a lot about the nets from game 1-4

        • Pedro-

          This is exactly the reasoning behind the coach trying to find the right balance between involving JV vs reducing TO’s.

    • Lyall

      Actually, it was 12 total, but whatever.

  • Coach

    Hats off to Amir. Looked much more spry last night and did as good a job on Pierce as possible. Pierce still blew by him for the first 3Qs whenever he got the ball but Amir had a huge clutch 4Q defence which frankly shouldn’t, but does weigh more in our minds. And he actually got some offensive rebounds and did some damage on the offensive end to at least maybe offset the mismatch on the other end.

    Pierce still shot 9-14 with 4 of the misses coming from 3point land (which means only one miss from inside the arc), so I think that’s something to be mindful of but if we do a great job on JJ and DWill everytime, I’ll take it.

    Doubling JJ in the post is risky and only works if our rotation back is good and disciplined (no jumping on pump fakes), which it seemed to be for the most part. That was a nice relief.

    I really thought DeRozan knew how to pass out of the double teams on the PnR, but I think the length of Kirilenko/Garnett/whoever the big coming out is is scaring him. Slightly scary thing there, expecting Brooklyn to continue that, especially with 2 full days off till the next game.

  • c_bcm

    They noticeably slowed the game down last night. More deliberate offence = less turnovers.

  • afrocarter

    Best headline.

  • Pong

    Amir and Pat made some key offensive rebounds in the 4th quarter. Pierce had the inside position on them but they simply outstretched him for the ball.

    • webfeat

      I liked Casey putting Amir and Pat on the floor together. It seemed like a good way to maintain an athletic presence on interior D while JV was sitting. It worked much better than putting Hansbrough or Hayes on the floor.

  • ioan1491

    I hope Ross is working on his jumper right now. His defense seemed to be better, energy level too .. Hope he can hit his early shots on Wednesdays and become a factor in these series.
    If winning while playing badly is a trademark of good teams, we should be on a good road. That defensive lockdown at the end of the game was golden. A third quarter like that can never happen again though. It’s bothering that the Raps knew the 3rd has been a problem all series long and yet got bulldozed again right out of the gates.

    • vanlivin

      Ross is going to go off in game 5.

    • Abused Raptors Fan

      I think Casey has to run a set or two for Ross early on to get him going. He just hasn’t had many good catch and shoot looks, especially from the corners where he’s most accurate. At this point, I think he just needs to see one of his 3pt attempts go in to restore his confidence.

      And as for the 3rd quarter, the Nets have been one of the best teams out of halftime since January 1st, just like we’ve been dominant in the 4th. The Raptors just need to keep from getting too far behind and they’ll be fine as they’ve owned the Nets in the 4th the past 3 games of the series.

      • ioan1491

        I hear ya, but I am still wary of the Nets being more clutch in the 4th than us … the only option i trust on our team in the 4th is Kyle. I know Demar can do his thing in iso, and that Greivis can score when we need him like he did with that 3 last night, but CAN, not WILL, is the whole point. Meanwhile the Nets can field a lineup with 4 closers and as much as i respect our defense last night, those turnovers by the Nets were really surprising.

        • raptorstand

          Son , did you just jump up on the bandwagon? Read and say slowly to yourself. We …. are …. the …. better …. team . Repeat as often as needed. Someone always steps up for us in the fourth. Don’t matter who it is , all season long. Those old pieces of crap that call themselves the Nets , know in the bottom of their hearts they can’t beat us. Our defense is lockdown baby and everybody has bought in, the second round is going to be a blast.

          • ioan1491

            I’ve been following the team all year and 3 seasons before that, been watching games at night since I live in Europe, +6 hour delay, so no bandwagon for me at all. I respect your belief in the team, I think we are the better team as well. Nets are hardly a team in fact. But I still feel wary after last night’s win and I’m sure many fans do too. Granted, ultimately none of the players or coach will read this so it’s not very relevant.. I just hope they do their thing and leave it less to 4th quarter plays to win the game.

            • CJT

              We have been the best 4th quarter team in the NBA this year, so I;m not sure what you are basing your opinion on. Nets have made some big shots in the 4th in this series as well, but the Raps have consistently outplayed them in the 4th.

              • ioan1491

                Like in Game 1 ? Or Game 2 when Pierce had the open look for 3 after DeRozan lost it for no reason? He makes that and it’s a different game, and we both know he can make that, more often than not he will. Even Casey acknowldeged in the post game presser last night that though our defense was on point, the Nets missed a bunch of shots they would normally make.
                I know we outplay them, but it looks much more a matter of chance rather than design.
                I’m not trying to be the pessimist here at all, I just think we can’t rely on this 4th quarter prowess and would be much better off coming into the 3rd with a more solid plan.

                • Philoveritas

                  Even the most elite 3pt shooters still miss more often than not, you hope to hit at a 40% clip. I don’t believe in the ‘clutch gene’.

          • stretch bigman

            The defence was exceptional in the 4th quarter last night.

            it has not been “lock down’ previously.

  • Nilanka15

    Game 1: Raps seemed overwhelmed by their 1st playoff game, and end up losing. They learn form their mistakes, and gut out a win in Game 2.

    Game 3: Raps seemed overwhelmed by their 1st road playoff game, and end up losing. They learn from their mistakes, and gut out a win in Game 4.

    Game 5: There are no more “I wonder what this feels like” moments now. The Raps have grown up very quickly over 4 games. I expect us to come out strong and feed off the energy in the building. Momentum has definitely shifted in our favour. The ball is literally (and figuratively) in our court.

    • Jam

      Last night they survived the biggest battle, which was the mental battle after the officials took away our 17 point lead….it’s got to be discouraging to realize you’re playing against Brooklyn and the refs, but they locked it up. Love this team. I think game 5 will be the return of Ross, and i say we blow em out. Brooklyn is being exposed this series….we’ve played to 1/2 our potential and they’re going all out…and we are 2-2.

  • plk

    For what it’s worth, this has been one hell of a series so far. Incredibly tough, incredibly tight and very exciting playoff basketball. The difference between these games and the regular season is palpable. I’ve watched a number of games from other series, some good and some not so good, but this series has by far been the best. It’s a shame there might be some folks down south that won’t be watching because there’s a team from Toronto in it. Their loss.

    This is what playoff basketball is supposed to be, isn’t it? And it’s damn exciting.

  • consmap

    Damn. I nearly went teary-eyed from the first few paragraphs.
    Go Raps!!!

  • Roarque

    Posted Sunday afternoon and Re-posted Monday morning:

    So far the Brooklyn series has provided exactly what I had hoped for which is a tough series against a proven or veteran perennial playoff squad so that the youngsters we cheer for can learn from experience for future years. I thought that series would have been with Indiana but Brooklyn is an acceptable substitution.
    I have had a strong distaste for KG and PP forever because of the arrogance they’ve displayed throughout their Celtic years, Ray Allen also fits into that category. They were the original three conspirators who turned the NBA on its ear to form a super team to dominate the league. Miami stole their blueprint and they also enjoy my complete and utter distain
    Having said that, I want the Raps to beat the Dodger-Nets ( or Netgers as they should be known in the borough) if only to show the World that the strength of the Raptors all season has been the ability to learn fast and adapt to adversity ie, win when they had to. I predict a turnaround led by our “bigs’ which in my mind include 2Pat, Amir and Jonas with a side of Tyler Hansbrough whose specific role will be to drive KG so insane that his forehead will erupt in game 6 causing him to be the first on-court death in league history diagnosed in the post mortem as a brain scramble. (and he was never heard from again…)
    I want the Raptors to play the Miami Heat. This scenario allows us the luxury of telling anyone willing to listen for the next 12 months that we would have won the championship except for the unethical business practice of three superstars loading a team to win a championship – a cowardly practice that should be punishable by those three guys being required to wear tutus in the victory parade down South Beach.
    Finally, I have to say that I have never been more proud of the team than when they came back on Friday and left the Netgers EMBARASSED to walk off the court with a W. It was as though our kids looked at them and sneered “Another 5 minutes and we would have left you in the fetal position sucking on your right thumb and snivelling ‘Mommy, mommy'”

    • Guest

      Except the Celtics traded for KG and Ray Allen, so they didn’t chose to sign there like Bosh and LeBron. So blame Danny Ainge and Kevin Mchale, and know your history before you rant about things that confuse you.

      • Roarque

        Thanks for the clarification, Kevin.

  • Mugsy

    My theory is that the JV beniching (like in the second half of game 1) prolly has to do with trying to get out of an offensive funk by running the ball. In game one Raps made their late run when he wasn’t on the floor.

    This would also explain the strange small-ball lineup. I know Chuck Hayes is no Usain Bolt but he also doesn’t try too much on offense, making ball movement smoother and reducing turnover numbers. And if your offense is hurting as bad as it was (1-16) the move isn’t that perplexing.

    Im a big time JV fan, but to say benching a young center and experimenting with line-ups when nothing else is working is terrible coaching, is a bit of an exaggeration.

    • vanlivin

      Its about defense which is our knockout punch. JVs defensive holes have been identified and targeted. Chuck is solid. Him playing end of third start of fourth every night isn’t going to stop this year. Good thing hes sharing with JV his knowledge and JV does learn pretty quick. But he isnt initiating the damn clogging building level yet. When he does figure that out he will be dominant.

  • Bryan Colangelo

    The All-Heart Team. I wish I could freeze time and watch this group of guys play together forever, win or lose.

    • Guest


  • Ricky E

    I have strong faith they if they take game 5 at home they’ll take the series! You should be reading the Brooklyn media spin now. They’re actually not looking past us anymore….lol

    • Bryan Colangelo

      If Brooklyn had our team, they would have a rabid fan base, too.

      These guys are a special group.

  • j bean

    My vote for Rap of the series goes to aydee 123 on a Nets blog last night.

    “The worst thing about this game was that my section was full of Raptors fans. They chanted “let’s go Raptors”! And it was deafening. Then at the end of the game when the Raptors had it wrapped up, they started to loudly chant “F-you BK! F-you BK! It was embarrassing. Some Nets fans were leaving early when the game was all but over and the Raptors fans taunted them. It was horrible.

    • smh

      no way! wow.

    • Peter G

      Omg that must have been such a scary experience!! I bet this person will never be able to attend another basketball game in their lives

    • Jeffrey Yau

      Isn’t Brooklyn supposed to be scary, or did I misquote KG somewhere heh.

  • wheygurey

    The Nets length and pressure on the ball make it hard for Demar (or especially Kyle) to make the pass. Jonas is kind of deliberate with his post moves, so there is an issue with simply posting him up. We normally try to give him the ball after secondary action in horns, but the Nets are too savvy, and know that Demar and Kyle are trying to actually put a post pass in.

    This means if he tries to fake and then throw the pass, it’s a turnover. This happened a lot in game 1 and 2 when we tried to force feed the paint more. You may also have noted that Jonas was the one turning it over almost 6 times a game.

    The Nets aren’t the fastest bunch out there (minus Deron who is a terrible defender) so instead they pressure the ball and use length to discourage straight post-ups and secondary action. Thus, Casey says, ok, we’ll hammer you with Demar (who no one can guard off the dribble) while the set up in your sets and either get to the line or shoot before their weaker athletes can get a hand up.

    I watched the game last night and Demar missed a bunch of close chippies because a. he was hit and b. was rushing a bit due to the pressure. In fact, the whole team missed some pretty makeable shots due to the pressure of being on the road and losing the lead.

    In no way was this “an iso fest” just because Demar missed some shots. He wasn’t just jacking up 20 footers all day. I thought he took about 4 bad shots the whole game, which, for a number one option, isn’t that bad.
    Demar’s percentage on corner threes is pretty good, so that’s not a “bad shot that has no chance of going in”.
    Livingston is getting killed by Demar, who he bad mouthed in the papers about “getting calls” and so is everyone else they try.

    If they trap Demar they open up everybody else, which they don’t really want to do. Casey hashad major injury and foul issues to deal with, which largely explain his lineups. Saving JV for the end of the game is necessary, as we have no other major way to draw attention away from our scorers. This is why he sits more than people like. That, and he’s 21 years old. Both Ross and JV are struggling in different ways, Ross more through lack of strength, and Jonas due to simple experience.

    Ross is going to show up in game 5, I think. All he needs is a couple of shots to go for him.

    • webfeat

      Wow, great post! Your analysis would be a great base for an RR article.

    • stretch bigman

      What about the left hand jumper from the FT line?lol

      Step back 3pt’s?

      That dude’s shot selection is crazy. He’s not Kobe.

      • wheygurey

        As I said, he took about 4 bad shots. Kobe would take 8 or 9. But he is turning into our version of low rent Kobe, which isn’t too bad a player. He sometimes takes Hero ball shots, as do all stars. The point is, he is not doing it all the time, as the narrative sometimes gets overplayed here.

        The man can make shots, and against this particular team, he happens to be the best option we’ve got. Of course, passing more freely would be great–but as I noted, the Nets are taking away his “kick” game from the drive and kick, and thus, forcing him to either make the shot or be passive.

        I’m not a Demar fanboy, but I’m not going to sit here and call him a chucker when he’s clearly improved in this area.

        • stretch bigman

          Kobe is a HOF’er and is as accomplished a player there is on the big stage.

          Demar needs to refrain from trying too much stuff outside of his skill set.

    • Bryan Colangelo

      People need to step back and realize that one of the reasons why we had less turnovers was because Demar didn’t force a dangerous pass into the post and Jonas handled the ball less.

      Jonas has been great in the post, but has also had the ball stripped away from him throughout the series in traffic.

      It’s a trade off right now. Hopefully the Raptors will come up with a way to protect the ball but also get the ball to Jonas without risking a turnover.

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    • Pedro-

      This is a great unbiased analysis that doesn’t fit into the bash Casey perspective that is so prevalent among the RR articles.

    • KJ-B

      That’s exactly right–he was taking “wing shots” because Toronto needs “wing scoring”. Dilemma is, he’s the only wing that’s scoring..
      If you wanna crap on DeRozan’s shot selection or fatigue–look in no one else’s direction than the scared to death TRoss… “Somebody’s got to do it” must be going through DeMar’s head every second of every minute.
      His shots, open offensive rebounding lanes because he’s getting doubled…create mismatches because of over rotation, so other teammates actually have breathing room to maneuver like Grevis–and not to mention the dude’s shooting the most free throws in the association per game/total however u wanna slice it.

      • Hassan Mehmood Khan

        we need Tross to step up he has to take the scoring load off kyle and demar

  • Juuuump

    Not sure how relevant this stat is anymore, but its still a little troubling. Dating back to 2008, KG & Pierce have never lost a Game 5 when the series is tied at 2. Hopefully we can hand them their first L on Wednesday!

    • Jordan

      I am no statistician but I imagine there is a sample size issue there.

      • Jordan

        Or maybe not. They could potentially have played 24 series’ since then. Have the Nets won 6 titles in a row, having every series tie 2-2 before an eventual game 5 win? I don’t remember.

        • Guest

          Have KG and Pierce played for the Nets since 2008? Probably not.

  • John

    Drake needs to write a song called, “Lint Rolla” and make it go something like this: “You’re the lint on my sweater, the lint on my pants, the lint on my shoulder and the lint in my a$$.”

  • Crossed

    Gonna boo the Canadian national anthem?

    Fuck Brooklyn, indeed.

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