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The last post is giving me issues in the CSS editor, so I’m moving it here. To recap tonight’s events:

  • Raptors very confident they can keep Lowry
  • Offers will start from the $12 million per year range
  • Conflicting reports on whether or not Lowry has signed (probably not)
  • Ujiri will present Lowry with offer shortly after midnight
  • Rockets also in on Lowry, would need to resolve their ‘Melo thing first
  • Yahoo Sports misreported on Lowry’s starting salary bid at $14.5 million
  • Oh, and the Raptors are reportedly interested in Vince Carter too. Read that here.

UPDATE 11:32

A quick peak at the Raptors’ up-to-date cap situation. Find the data here. DanH, if you’re out there, could you double-check this? Thanks man.

cap situationUPDATE 12:07

So let’s strike the Lakers off the list. Lowry needs security and money.

UPDATE: 12:13

Houston can’t offer Lowry a salary on par with the Raptors’ until they find a taker for Jeremy Lin. Looks like with LeBron calling audibles, Lowry is their plan B. We should be worried about this. Houston is much closer to a championship than the Raptors are.

Yeah, Lowry is definitely Houston’s plan A. Perhaps the talk of pursuing James/Melo was a smokescreen. Lowry fits so perfectly there. Floor general who can shoot threes, pass and play defense? Yikes. I’m officially worried. They can offer him over $10 million as of now.

And Lowry is no longer at odds with Rockets head coach Kevin McHale. They reconciled their differences. Here’s an excerpt:

I really respected Kevin McHale. I wish I would have had an opportunity to play for him longer. The things he was teaching me, well, I didn’t understand right away. When you get away from someone, though, see it from the outside looking in, you go back and think, ‘Damn, I could’ve learned some more things from the guy

UPDATE 12:32

Let’s hope this is Lowry’s response to the advances from Houston’s advances:

UPDATE 12:36

Does this put you at ease? No? Didn’t think so.

UPDATE 12:41

Rockets meeting with Lowry right now.

UPDATE 12:44

I have no idea who this reporter is, or if he’s credible. With Woj having already reported on the situation, he’s clearly got a source inside the situation. Nevertheless

UPDATE 12:46

S0…we should just all go to sleep? Nah.

Also, Rashard Lewis? Is this a back-up for Patrick Patterson? Is he even better than Steve Novak at this point?

UPDATE 12:51

We’re building an awesome team for the year 2005.

UPDATE 1:45

Great. We’ll be at this all day. Someone else will tag in for me tomorrow morning, I hope. I’m going to bed.

UPDATE 1:49

No. Shit. Was that even worth a tweet? I need sleep. Also, Kyrie signed a max deal. Sweet. Your move, Dion Waiters. Watch your back.

UPDATE: 2:03

Your list of princes:

Officially #loggingoff now. No one has signed Lowry yet. Miami and Toronto will meet with Lowry tomorrow. Houston already has. Check back tomorrow morning. We’ll have everything covered (maybe).

8am Tuesday Update (Zarar)

He’s heard what Houston has to say, now it’s Ujiri’s time to shine. My only thing is, Lowry knows we tried to trade him, wonder if it’ll play in his decision?

8:40am update

Just some housekeeping here. Grange admits that the info reported earlier was wrong. He’s now saying what Woj is saying. Maybe he fell for this.

UPDATE – 2:40pm

The more this goes on, the less likely we have to worry about Miami. Houston the main threat.

UPDATE: 4:41 (Tim W.)

Things are coming fast and furious. The latest….

No confirmation of that just yet, but that seems to be the story people are running with at the moment. It would back up this story…

What this means for Kyle Lowry and the Raptors is anyone’s guess, but it does mean that the Heat will, in principle, have enough money to make a competitive offer to Lowry, and not ask him to take a discount. That said, if they sign Lowry for $12 million, they have very little to spend on the center position:

It would seem to me that it would make more sense to spend on Gortat, rather than add to their point guard position.

UPDATE: 4:50PM (Zarar)

Houston want a sign-and-trade. How nice of them to give us something in return. F*** off.

UPDATE: 5pm (Zarar)

Woj has published an article detailing the Lowry situation:

Miami president Pat Riley has been pushing for a sit-down meeting with Lowry, but Lowry is taking time on Tuesday afternoon to consider his next step in the process. Lowry met with Toronto general manager Masai Ujiri and coach Dwane Casey on Tuesday afternoon in Philadelphia after meeting with Houston GM Daryl Morey and coach Kevin McHale in the early morning hours.

So the ball is in Lowry’s court – the Raptors have made their offer, Lowry has listened and is now debating while Pat Riley tries to get his oily hands in there. This is one of those moments which reflect whether the Raptors do really have the stature that Leiweke and Ujiri purport they do. Big free agent. Big teams on the hunt. Can the Raptors pull through? Stay tuned.

UPDATE 8:45 PM (Zarar)

Marcin Gortat has signed a 5yr/60M deal with the Wizards, and you got to be thinking that Lowry would command more. Then again, this league is thin at the C and heavy at PG, so you never know. Still, though, a precedent has been set and Lowry has to be thinking he’s more valuable to Toronto than Gortat is to Washington.

In other news, Shaun Livingston has signed a 3yr/$16M deal with the Warriors which comes to $5.3M, which is what you think someone like Greivis Vasquez could command. Again, precedents being set.

UPDATE – Tuesday 10:17 PM – Zarar

There you have it, we need to wait a few more days before he makes up his mind. Maybe he’s just buying more time, maybe he’s stalling, maybe he wants to see all of what’s out there. Bottom line is that the decision to stay with the Raptors isn’t as clear-cut as we’d hoped it was. At this point, you have to think that other opportunities are teasing him enough that this could go either way.

UPDATE – Tuesday, 11:16 PM – Zarar

The Heat are easing off, apparently, or haven’t gone full force. Not sure what the LA offer is or if they’ve even met with Lowry. Very cold on the LA front, right now it’s between the Rockets and Raptors.

END OF POST – WE’LL PICK THIS UP ELSEWHERE

  • jclaw

    who’s staying up all night? :)

    • DDayLewis

      I’m checking out after 2 AM, so sign the freaking deal already, Lowry!

    • Saskatoon Raps Fan

      2 hrs behind u guys here in sask. the night is still young

    • Andre

      Im with you bro!!

    • Debris

      Only 2:40pm here in Australia. I’m not going anywhere. :)

  • RaptorSaint

    we all are!

  • feylines

    way more stressful than draft night or any tor-bkn playoff game except game 7 and the couple i was at. ujiri just tack on whatever profit mlse will make from my jersey purchase to your offer k?

  • feylines

    @WojYahooNBA: Houston Rockets GM Daryl Morey has traveled to Philadelphia to meet with free agent guard Kyle Lowry tonight.

    • jclaw

      yikes! we’re not going to see a lowry for lin sign and trade….are we?! breath…it’s early. I need a drink

    • Saskatoon Raps Fan

      Well so much for taking Lowry off the market before the other teams could get at him. Not that that was ever a realistic hope anyways. Hopefully Lowry appreciates that we are all in for him right now, while morey is still gonna want to talk to Carmelo before making any official offer

    • jclaw

      i guess that means we won’t be seeing a re=signing tweet in the next bit then. The houston thing feels just like LA sneaking in while we were all on Nash-watch

  • joshua

    What are the predictions for Lowry? Where is he going? For how much? How many yrs?

    • RaptorSaint

      hovering around the 4 year 12.5mil deal.. hoping for toronto

  • Garbo

    This webpage will receive 1000 hits from me tonight..

    • DDayLewis

      Keep refreshing! Updates coming hot and heavy.

      • asifyouknow

        Good night the meeting with Kyle is not till tomorrow morning

  • Truth Teller

    Colangelo did a bad job, but you gotta credit him for Derozan’s contract. Less than 10M for an allstar is very good. Also most of these numbers look good to me.

    • RaptorSaint

      even ujiri praised colangelo for the last couple draft picks and salaries, the only thing that was negative was probably just the bargnani situation.

      • Plus

        And Rudy, and Jermaine, and Kapono, and Jay Triano… and.. who did I miss?

        • cdub

          Turk!

  • Moewrawn

    I don’t think Lowry and Mchale actually patched things up. Seems like something he might say to repair his relationship and image with coaches around the league, maybe with an eye on making the all star team next year as a reserve. Just a thought and my opinion though…

    • DDayLewis

      Here’s to hoping that you’re right.

  • Moewrawn

    Also, do we really think Lowry wants to go back to being third fiddle on a team? Maybe in hopes of winning a championship, but it seems to me he loves being “the top guy”.

    • RaptorSaint

      good point.. but no one knows whats on lowrys mind:

      number one guy on a decent playoff contending team or
      number 3 guy on a championship (if injury free) team.

      i hope he pick the first one 😀

  • Joey Drummond

    Go to bed everyone. Lowry is a family man, and anyone that has a wife, kids, mom, dad, etc, knows that you take your time making big career decisions and you sort things out with the fam first. Lowry ain’t signing anything tonight, especially not the biggest contract of his life. If Masai thought a midnight door-knock would seal the deal, he’d be there too. And let’s keep in mind what we’re doing here – clicking refresh to get updates on a PG that has had one solid NBA season during a contract year. Yes, I love him and the way he played, but it’s not the end of the world if he leaves. Good night fellas.

    • RaptorSaint

      wordddd

    • Andre

      very true…

    • feylines

      to me our ability to resign lowry means more than just his value as a player, it’s also his value as a leader and his signal he’d be sending that toronto is a good place to play if you have the choice

  • Moewrawn

    Also, taking a meeting with Houston, maybe it’s his last chance/card to play to extract a bit more money or years from T.O?

    • DDayLewis

      It would be smart. It wouldn’t cost Lowry anything.

  • raptorholic

    officially shitting bricks.

  • Mexiballer

    Like Demar says…”Im not worried bout that.”

  • Paul

    Houston.. FFS.. There goes another star. But really, once the price climbs north of 13M and 4 yrs, do we even want Lowry back??

    • Zee

      I agreee with this! :)

    • Mexiballer

      I love Lowry…but I say no. A GM has to have a reasonable limit.

    • Truth Teller

      Lowry is worth at most 12M starting. Its only 1M difference than 13, but the numbers start climbing in the last 3 years of his contract.

  • asifyouknow

    Lots of Huston talk less Miami talk…

  • Cornelius

    Their plan is probably to let him shop around and see how much he can get on the open market, then come back to them with the number, which they will then match and beat, and he’ll likely re-sign in Toronto when it’s all said and done. It’s probably been the plan of both parties all along.

  • raptorholic

    No loyalty in this business. Lowery knows we tried to trade him. He is going with whats good for him…and Houston looks pretty good from here.

    • Mexiballer

      Ha ha. I cant believe how many posters are panicking.

      • raptorholic

        its not panic. its just reality setting in.

        • raptorholic

          we’re just not the prettiest girl in the dance…so why settle on a ugly girl if don’t have to.

    • asifyouknow

      You speak the truth…lol

      • DC

        As if you know :)

  • Mexiballer

    It only makes good business sense that he would have another bidder right there next to him. Agents dont get paid for nothing.

  • raptorholic

    whats plan B for us? …and it can’t be G.V.

  • Charanvir

    your welcome for the link

  • Joey Drummond

    Yahoo’s Marc Spears is reporting that Toronto is interested in Rashard Lewis…but there aint no more roster spots…hmmmmm

    • Mexiballer

      He was coached by Casey in Seattle.

      • Joey Drummond

        Interesting, thanks for the background. I can’t see them signing PPatt and Rashard.

        • Plus

          Oh hell no, that dood is too old.

    • Truth Teller

      Unfortunately the real Rashard Lewis is long gone. His Sonic days are over. SVG killed his game when he made him a corner 3 pt shooter in Orlando. Father time killed his game when his athletic ability deteriorated. He is nothing but a 3 pt specialist now and those are a dime a dozen.

      • bballi bballi paradise

        Orlando also went to the finals with him as a corner 3pt shooter…

        • Truth Teller

          Because of Dwight. But I didn’t say SVG used him wrong, he just broke him.

  • RPT23

    F! Houston and their underage molester Dwight Howard. F! That!

  • asifyouknow

    Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 4m

    I’m told face-to-face meeting between Raptors & prized free agent Kyle Lowry scheduled for later Tuesday … as in Tuesday in the sunlight

  • RPT23

    Damn love the song. Wish my Kids were asleep so I could blast it.

  • tonious35

    Lowry won’t sign with Houston, I think he still thinks McHale is full of shit….He will just not loudly mention it after discovering his “new-self-thanks-to-Masai”.

  • raptorholic

    He’s gone boys, he’s gone. Our 5′-11″ 250 lb philly cheese stake is gone. Say la vie. Pack it in, say good night, have sweet dreams of a better tomorrow..and try to have Happy Canada Day!

    • Mexiballer

      Ha…you said you werent panicking.

    • GoingBig

      haha

    • noname

      C’est la vie. Gotta know your french before using it. And btw he’s just trying to raise his price tag.

    • Plus

      It’s steak not stake.

  • Louvens Remy

    I hate Daryl Morey. He doesn’t even like Kyle.

    • johng_3

      He is the guy who plays myGM mode in NBA2k in real life

  • Truth Teller

    I thought Rockets wanted Melo/Lebron? THey don’t have the space to make this deal. They might need to S&T and I wouldn’t be opposed to getting Parsons back at the right price (NOT more than 10M a year ever — starting 8M). If Raptors lose out on Lowry, then go after Bledsoe. He would fill the gap and has potential to grow.

  • DanH

    Only notes for your salary section. Listing qualifying offers doesn’t mean much. Unlikely the players re-sign for the QO, in the meantime they actually have a bigger cap hold (about 8M for PP and 5M for GV), plus those QO’s are out of date – they each had their QO modified by meeting/not meeting the starter criteria.

    At this stage, since we are looking at not using cap space (unless the Lowry situation takes a turn for the worst), I would suggest listing our free agents as zeroes, then comparing tax room – that’ll be the limiting factor this offseason.

    • DanH

      As a note, the tax room for re-signing free agents should be around 25.3M once Stone and Buycks are waived.

      • DDayLewis

        Thanks DanH. Knew I could count on you.

  • Microaggressive

    $14 mil+ ?

    Let him go.

  • That other guy

    If I have to pick a team that is the biggest threat to lure Lowry away it has to be Dallas. Rockets traded him and I don’t care what he states publicly to the media, he doesn’t get along with Mchale. Maybe they can convince him to play only because of the team they have there now. Miami won’t have the money after paying max to Lebron, unless off course he goes there to compete for a title. The issue here is that this is probably going to be the only major pay day to Kyle in his entire career and I seriously doubt if he agrees to take a lot less. Lakers have nothing to intrigue Lowry with. If reports are correct, Kyle won’t sign a two year deal.

    So that leaves us with Dallas. A team that can pay as much as Raptors, a team that has one of the best coaches in Nba (right after Pops and Thibs), a team that is built of veterans, professional, determined squad, strong organization overall.

    I’m also afraid that Kyle might just remember that Raptors were trying to trade him in December and all that stopped him from getting traded was Dolan’s veto of the deal.

    • GoingBig

      Or Phoenix – All your point guards are belong to us! j/k

      Dallas Mavericks interested in DJ Augustin
      http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4702418/sources-mavs-interested-in-d-j-augustin

    • Mexiballer

      I would make that bet for sure. Lowry and Masai are talking today. Are you saying that he would make Lowry an offer and then lower the price later in the day or week. He’s not going to play hardball with Lowry or insult him in that way. Lowry is holding most of the cards and Masai would never sour the negotiations by pulling move like that. Its not going to happen.

      The only place that Masais initial offer can go is up…not down.

  • dunkmycat7

    Good morning everyone, hope you all had a good sleep.
    It’s crunch time, this IS the signing that either makes or breaks the Raptors for 2014 and beyond.
    Also IMO the signing that makes or BREAKS Masai’s career here in Toronto.
    And if they do not sign him I hope everyone remembers exactly what happened with CB4. They should have fired BC the day Bosh signed in Miami. Letting your best player go for nothing is simply the most egregious mistake you can make as a GM in the NBA. Let’s try to remember that if KL signs elsewhere.
    Best of luck Masai. This is why the Raptors brought you here and paid you the BIG $$$$.
    Failure is not an option.

    • johng_3

      Well its not like Masai is not offering him the money. Its Lowry’s decision and what he thinks about the team. And if we had traded Lowry midseason, we would not have had that playoff run and his value would not be as high as it is now.

      • dunkmycat7

        The issue is someone going lunatic and offering him Kyrie money..is that 18 mil going to be the new standard ? YIKES !!!

        • mountio

          dont think thats happening .. Kyrie in a different class given age, potential, etc – but $13-$14 mm is certainly possible unfortunately .. espeically by the Lakers on a 2 year deal. I could see them going 2 years $30 mm even. Not sure Kyle takes that was 4 at $48 mm though

          • dunkmycat7

            Sure hope not.
            rock…meet *%$*% hard place.
            killer decision at more than 4 yrs/45 – 48 mil.

          • ac1011990

            He would probably take a 44/4 deal over a 28/2 deal because more years and guareented more money. I think he wants the money but also a place to call his own for awhile. Personally I don’t think Lakers are that big of a threat because they don’t seem willing to give out long term deals to anyone other then Lebron or Carmelo.

        • johng_3

          Everyone knows who much a player like Kyle is worth. He put up one good season and isn’t worth franchise-type money. If someone gives him 18 million, then let him walk.

        • cdub

          The new standard for bad contracts maybe! Irving is not worth a max deal.

    • GoingBig

      In terms of respect for Masai, the Raptors need to make a good,respectful offer and also listen to what Kyle wants. A starting offer of $12MM per would secure the good faith of Lowry in a bidding war.

      If he walks after that for a much higher offer, there’ll still be respect for Masai.

    • Big fan

      Going on the record that if Kyle Lowry does not sign with the raptors, I hope Ujiri does not get fired..

      • StrikerAI

        Why would Masai get fired for not signing Lowry? He’s done a brilliant job so far as the Raptors’ GM. Getting rid of Bargnani and getting a few picks in return, getting rid of Gay for decent bench players and future cap space and got rid of Salmons for a good bench scorer and a potential defensive C. Lowry not signing is up to Lowry, Masai is doing what he can except for offering Lowry an overpaid contract, which shouldn’t happen anyway.

  • dunkmycat7

    BTW-always like Ed Davis’ game. I wonder if he still has one. Can we get him cheap ?
    Do we want to ?

    • Saskatoon Raps Fan

      I’d want to if we can’t resign pat. Hansbrough as the primary backup up makes me cringe.

  • Xtremenator1

    Lowry isn’t closer to winning an NBA title with the Rockets. Have you seen the West? Harden and Howard aren’t “winners”, and there’s no way they can get past a team like the Clippers or even the Grizzlies defense, let alone the Thunder or Spurs. Lowry’s best option would be to stay in the East with a much weaker conference. If he can get on a contender like the Heat he’d most likely cruise through the first and second round leading to a matchup with the Pacers or Bulls and then you’ll take your chance in the Finals.

    • Plus

      Yeah that statement in the article is way off. Way too much competition in the West where the East has little. So to make it further in the playoffs is easier.

  • asifyouknow

    Kevin McHale and Kyle Lowry have hugged and made up according to sources…lol

  • KJ-B

    I dunno… am I the only one in the city willing & ready to wish Kyle well if he goes. He’s basically saying, “Toronto I really love you for 12.5 million reasons but my heart is in Miami… Houston’s my plan B”
    Not sure what to make of reports but Kyle has to make a long term decision for Kyle. That’s it–I wish him well and won’t mind for a moment if he goes elsewhere–that’s a lot of dough for a guy coming off a career year man!

    • mountio

      Im with you at some of the numbers being thrown around like ~$14 mm ish. At $12-$12.5m, its probably more than hes worth given we really only have one season of note where his production would justify this type of number… but Id still do it. My worry is Masai seems to be going after him at any cost, which is never a good position to be in ..

      • KJ-B

        His agent is taking somewhat of a risk though with supply/demand for available starting pg’s as the only reason for the price point.

        I can see Lowry getting squeezed down to 9.5-10.5 mil if he keeps flirting…teams are going to get antsy and commit elsewhere–he’s not LeBron/Melo/Bosh who can wait 7-10 days and get franchise player dollars.

        Perhaps that Ujiri’s plan–Miami is looking hopelessly hamstrung in the new CBA and almost destined to lose at least 1 of the Big three… I call that Kyle will get squeezed. The price from Toronto only goes down from here if he won’t commit in the first 24 hours… My sense is that he’s gotten caught up!

        • Mexiballer

          The price isnt going down. That’s illogical speculation.

          • KJ-B

            Really…care to bet? Dallas has already dropped out as a suitor. Houston has no cap room and still has a poison pill to deal with in Chandler Parsons. Miami has cap space which $20+ mil has LJames written on it–sorry… But the longer Lowry waits, the lower his price bc he was never a $12 mil a year baller to begin with.

            If he’s somehow playing a game of chicken with Masai, he’s about to get pillaged–if Lowry’s market dries up because of his salary demands, guess what Masai’s gonna say? “Last year was a career year–you’ve been rarely healthy or been humble in your career outside of your last season in Toronto…here’s 30 mil for 3 years with a team option for a 4th.” Repeat: Lowry is not James/Melo/Bosh… KLove is dangling out there too!

            Sorry, but I can’t find the “logic” of your position…

            • ac1011990

              Nah that’s to much of an insult, don’t think Masai would do that. This is a partnership between Raps and Lowry and Lowry and Masai, Lowry does not have to take insults, he seems like a proud guy and I’m pretty sure if Masai pulled something like that, Lowry would rather take less money to play somewhere else.

              • KJ-B

                This is negotiation in business–it’s never personal.. What’s stopping the Raptors from signing a Chandler Parsons or an Eric Bledsoe to an offer sheet and his team can’t match cause they’re chasing a LeBron/Melo pipe dream.. The market determines value and unless you’re a blue chip stock, the waiting game only loses you money. Make hay when the sun shines–

                From Ben Gordon to Brandon Jennings, history tells us it doesn’t pay to wait if a player is in the 2nd tier at best in the league–after watching the playoffs I’d argue that Grevis Vasquez was just as good if not more effective that Lowry was and will be 25-30% of Lowry’s salary next year.

                Logic swings both ways.

                • ac1011990

                  I get what your saying and personally I wouldn’t pay over 11 for him. I get he’s the heart and soul of the team but he has had only one really good year, the rest average. He is second tier, but once Lebron and Carmelo make their intentions known, teams will chase after him even more. He is in the top 5 most sought after free agents this hear and most likely he will get the price he wants.

            • Mexiballer

              I would make that bet for sure. Lowry and Masai are talking today.
              Are you saying that he would make Lowry an offer and then lower the
              price later in the day or week. He’s not going to play hardball with
              Lowry or insult him in that way. Lowry is holding most of the cards and
              Masai would never sour the negotiations by pulling a move like that. Its
              not going to happen.

              The only place that Masais initial offer can go is up…not down.

        • Mexiballer

          Where did your post go asking for a bet?

          I would make that bet for sure. Lowry and Masai are talking today.
          Are you saying that he would make Lowry an offer and then lower the
          price later in the day or week. He’s not going to play hardball with
          Lowry or insult him in that way. Lowry is holding most of the cards and
          Masai would never sour the negotiations by pulling move like that. Its
          not going to happen.

          The only place that Masais initial offer can go is up…not down.

          • KJ-B

            NBA = No Boys Allowed. This is a business. In negotiations there are winners and there are losers. I’m just saying that Kyle is the one making the bet and he’s going to get called on his hand. The Raptors bid of $12 mil per is too high–no one else can afford that, so if this stretches on…besides we don’t know what the Raps offer is.

            For the last time, IMO–if Lowry gets more than $12 mil per it’s because he agreed to commit TO.DAY.

            • Mexiballer

              We disagree. I dont believe there any way that Masai would lower an all ready tabled offer.

              • KJ-B

                In free agency, no deal is a deal until July 10th. Remember Turkoglu going to Portland until BryCo pulled a BryCo??? Nothing’s written in stone. Well, let’s agree to disagree.

    • Mexiballer

      He hasn’t said his heart is in Miami or that Houston is his plan B. He hasnt said much of anything except that there is a business aspect to the NBA, and now is the time to do the business part. All he and his agent are doing is what most other free agents would do who want the best deal they can get. He’s testing the market and listening to offers.

      If you were going to get one big payday for the rest of your life and more then one employer wanted to hire you, wouldn’t you want them bidding against each other for your services?

  • Saskatoon Raps Fan

    When is this meeting happening? I need some news- something, anything, this is killing me

    • mountio

      Exactly .. I know NBA players sleep in … but compared to the hot and heavy updates at 2 am last night, this seems eerily quiet this morning …

    • asifyouknow

      Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA___

      Yahoo Sources: Toronto Raptors Kyle Lowry agree on a 2-year, $16M free agent deal. http://yhoo.it/VDGcVw

  • asifyouknow

    WHY ARE THEY WANTING THE OLD GUYS LIKE LEWIS AND CARTER ?
    They can’t believe they are going to win sooner with those guys..please..

    • Saskatoon Raps Fan

      Need some older guys to show the way. With the addition of the 2 Brazilians they are plenty young enough. Winning a playoff series would be good for their development too, and in that respect a couple veterans can help

      • dunkmycat7

        ..but not these 2 trolls, how about Deng instead ? EXACTLY what we need – a vet perimeter defender who can do it all and play great TEAM basketball…
        Oh yeah and either Greg Monroe or Kevin Love. :)

        • Saskatoon Raps Fan

          Deng would be awesome, and agreed I want no part of Rashard Lewis. Carter I’m on the fence. He could help, but not sure they could overcome all the extra drama/past demons

    • Tamberlyn Richardson

      Saskatoon Raps Fan is correct, you need valuable vets on your team. The other factor to consider is this year’s finalists (Heat & Spurs) were the two OLDEST teams in the league. So while we want to build our core we still need vets.

  • Mexiballer

    Im more concerned about over paying for Lowry then I am about him coming back. I remember when the season ended the talk was 9-10 million and 3-4 years. Now numbers like 13 million 5 years are getting tossed around.

    • Ken

      100% agree… i’d rather let him walk…

    • rapierraptor

      The rising years is scary but I don’t think the discussion was ever at a number below 10.5 million. It seems like Lowry’s people are using Ty Lawson’s contract as their ball park negotiating base.

    • StrikerAI

      $13 million is the max I’d go. Anything more isn’t worth it, even if he does play well this season, he will start leaving his prime after the 2014-2015 season.

    • mike, prague

      Let’s pray that Masai doesn’t do another Javale McGee bargain contract at $44M for 4 years … insane!

  • rapierraptor

    Damn, you guys at RR are a tireless bunch!

  • Season

    Garrett ‏@TheRealG_Newt 6m
    Kyle Lowry expected to make decision tomorrow. Has only met with Rockets and Raptors. Keep an eye on Lin. If dealt, Lowry is a Rocket..

  • Xtremenator1

    NHL free agency making this look like a bitch.

  • Homph Gomph

    @johncanzanobft · 1h
    Kyle Lowry free agency will be committed by tomorrow. Source says Toronto is leader.

    • Season

      I am worried about the price tag…Lowry is not a 14.5 MUSD player.
      I could see a 4 year deal – light in the first years (11), heavier in the tail (13 MAX)

      • Homph Gomph

        I personally think a front loaded contract makes more sense just to scare off any of his other pursuers, and then ease it down a bit to leave us with enough room to make a big move in a year or two (whats up KD)* *I also do not know much about salary cap so that might be dumb as hell :)

        • noname

          doesn’t make a difference in terms of cap. The cap hit is the average per year money he makes over the course of the contract he signs. So if he signs for 4 yrs 44 mil for example. we could front or back load it, the cap hit will remain 11mil per year.

      • dunkmycat7

        sounds like my ex wife .:)

        • Season

          The part about the price or the tail? 😉

          • dunkmycat7

            I was going for the light in the first years – heavier in the tail part…but now that you mention it -both.

      • noname

        I see him taking a 5 year 55 mil contract with incentives.

  • Season

    In other news, this does not sound right:

    John Canzano‏@johncanzanobft
    Chris Bosh’s 5-year deal with Miami expected to start at $11 million in year 1. Dwyane Wade will sign four years, $12 million in year 1

  • Season

    Finally some credible info #positive

    Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard 4m
    Source: Forget Kyle Lowry to Houston. Rockets wanted sign & trade but Toronto won’t deal bc they want to keep Lowry

    • Homph Gomph

      This is really good news.

  • Mexiballer

    95% chance Lowry signs with Toronto. He’ll get good money, good terms. He’ll be happy.

  • feylines

    Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN 2m
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    Heat telling free agents they will have $12+ million to spend, indicating Wade & Bosh ready to take huge pay cuts, sources told ESPN

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  • DDayLewis

    Looks like everybody at the blog is working or busy with Canada Day plans. If you don’t see the news here, you can follow along on theScore (blah blah nepotism blah blah). Get the app (free) or check the links below:

    http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/530949

    • JunkYardDog

      Someone has mentioned this to you already earlier in the season .. working at the Score and encouraging people to use the Score’s app is not nepotism. Please google nepotism.

      • DDayLewis

        Okay fine, self-promotion. You get the gist.

  • Homph Gomph

    It would be really awesome if Lowry actually turns out to be a free agent that tells Miami “No.” Also a big free agent that actually stays in Toronto of course.

    • cdub

      does he even want to go to Miami? who knows he’s a competitive dude, does he want to be driving the bus or sitting in the back of the limo? I think he is just seeing what’s out there which he should do

  • Stahmenah

    Think we should be worried here. Surely no one forgot that Chris Bosh and Kyle are very very good friends. If i’m not mistaken, they were best friends before he signed with the Raps. Bosh could have a very big say in what’s going on in Kyle’s head also. Just saying.

    • mountio

      I dont ever recall hearing that Bosh and Lowry are friends .. are you sure about that? Confusing him with Jarred Jack, maybe?
      To the best of my knowledge (did a quick google search too), these guys havent played together (Bosh Dallas, KL Philly growing up and no college connection). Let me know if Im missing something, but I dont remember hearing this anywhere ..

      • Stahmenah

        You know, I stand correct. You are right. I am mistaken. My bad.

        Thank you very much.

    • Danny Tam

      That’s Rudy Gay, not Bosh.

  • asifyouknow

    Random thought:
    If the Raptors sign Lowry, Vaz is history, Casey and Mu got Williams to replace Vaz . Williams has about the same offensive stats and is more of a CASEY type of defender.
    Without Patterson and Salmons and Vaz you will basically have the same team that could not win last year.
    Logic tells us that if you improve the position that were fill in by the Kings players you should be better next year.
    Makes sense?
    That is what they’re doing, but the key is Kyle. This is so clear to me.

    • DDayLewis

      Lou Williams is just as bad as Vasquez is on defense. Williams is quicker, Vasquez is bigger.

      • asifyouknow

        lol…is a draw……

    • noname

      vaz and patterson are staying, but I think de colo, buycks, and stone are gone. Plus Ujiri could probably be planning to trade the expirings of hayes + fields for future second rounders or something. He could probably throw in novak too. We would have plenty cap space to sign patterson, vaz, and lowry and our lineup would be like:
      Lowry/Vasquez
      Derozan/Williams
      Ross/FA/Caboclo
      PPat/Amir/Hans
      Jonas/Noguiera
      Hell maybe we could even keep De colo just in case…our lineup would be set.

      • mountio

        There wont be any takers for hayes or fields unless we sweeten with more than a 2nd rounder (thats us sending the 2nd rounder, not receiving as you suggest). Note that we got some value for Salmons, but thats only because he was waivable, so he saved philly considerable dollars vs Williams and the prospect.
        I tend to agree with asifyouknow – if KL signs, GV likely gone and lou williams fills the hole just fine. If lowry doesnt sign, we go with a platoon of GV and LW, which isnt all that bad, especially when you consider we can use the Lowry $ to materially upgrade at SF or another position.

        • noname

          ok then how about we do what golden state did last year and send fields + hayes + future second rounder to like philly or something…you know how they like asset gathering. Then we will clear cap space and get the guys we need.

  • asifyouknow

    Miami creates space. Kyle will be taking his talent to South Beach….sorry guys…

    • noname

      nah there were reports that bosh and wade aren’t taking the huge paycuts that was reported earlier. https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/484115169510182912

      • mountio

        What is likely going on is CB and DW have agreed to the potential of a deal like that IF Miami finds the right free agent (and if not, they will sign larger deals). Is KL the right free agent? Im not sure …

  • asifyouknow

    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA___ 4m

    Yahoo Sources: Toronto Raptors Kyle Lowry agree on a 2-year, $16M free agent deal. http://yhoo.it/VDGcVw

    • noname

      i clicked the link and it took me to the livingston signing…you had me REALLY going there.

      • asifyouknow

        Yea is one of those dam fake tweet links…

        • noname

          lol you got buchered!

          • asifyouknow

            Aint that a bitch….lol.. I hate free agency…

  • santayana

    Hate to spoil the surprise but Lowry is definitely staying put. Raps will overpay and Lowry wants $$$. DUH

  • asifyouknow

    Going to bed….. I’ll pray that is over by tomorrow so I can get back to sleep, you know, at normal hours…ZzzzzZZZZzzzzZZZzzzZZz

  • Tamberlyn Richardson

    David Aldridge spoke to DWade/Bosh’s agent (same agent) who said the 12 mill for 4-years and 11 for 5-years info is BS. So in other words the boys want more money than that. Anything more & with LeBron getting a max contract means they’ll have less than 12 million available which should take them out of the running.