The Raptors had tendered a qualifying offer of $1.8M to Nando De Colo, which you might have thought would be enough since the man is currently a borderline NBA player looking to stay on a roster. Things have shifted now that De Colo is being offered a €3 million deal by CSKA Moscow (Sonny Weems plays there), which works out to about $4.07M USD, and big tax breaks. The reported deal gives De Colo a higher amount over a longer period of time.

The Raptors are unlikely to offer De Colo more money upfront, given that they have higher priorities like signing a backup center.  However, since they actually tendered a QO to him, there is definitely an interest in keeping him.  To read more about the Raptors cap situation, check out Blake’s latest post on the matter. If De Colo signs with the Russian side, his cap hold equal to the amount of his qualifying offer will disappear from the cap and the Raptors will relinquish all rights.

With the Raptors last year, De Colo played 9 minutes per game and averaged 3.1 points, 1.3 rebounds, and 1.6 assists. He was acquired at the trade deadline for luckiest NBA champion, Austin Daye.

  • jakdripr

    So I guess Nando’s probably gone, it wouldn’t make sense for him to turn down that much money and(presumably) more playing time. All the best to him if he takes it.

    • CashGameND

      its only like 200k more to play in russia? no thanks

      • That other guy

        First, he’s European. Second, tax rates are smaller in Russia which means he actually gets to keep more in his own pocket. Why waste your time sitting on the bench in the NBA, when you can be an important peace in a team which is a Euroleague contender. He never should’ve gotten to the NBA in the first place. He’s a bit quicker than most European players and suddenly he’s in the NBA sitting on the bench, fetching towels for guys who actually play. I’d say go for it and forget about these dreams that were never meant to come true. Raptors don’t really need him either, he’s more of an insurance policy rather than a rotation player.

        • CashGameND

          I guess I never thought about the fact he’s european. From my perspective it wouldn’t be worth it. Although he’s european isn’t russia a whole nother bag of worms? I just don’t think its the easiest decision in the world for him, and I don’t think we can assume him as good as gone based on that offer.

          as for the raptors perspective I totally agree, he can go & nobody will be upset

          • Bluth

            It’s not even a meh if he leaves in my book, it’s a good thing, no? More cap room one way or another, and now opens the option of picking up Garrett’s contract as 3rd string PG if Ujiri wants it at a cheaper price tag, though I imagine he’d waive him for an extra 1M for SF upgrade.

            • CashGameND

              don’t we already have the option of cutting de colo and taking the money off the books?

              • Bluth

                We gave him a qualifying offer first and if we take that back then there’s some sorta cap room penalty that happens, from my understanding. Not 100% how that works though.

                • CashGameND

                  he was given the QO as an insurance policy, and still kind of is an insurance policy in case something wacky with GV happens. regardless, I don’t think MU would have a hard time dealing him if he had to.

                • Bluth

                  I am not sure about that, we got him for another on the cusp player, so whatever we can get for him is gonna be trash. No one is gonna give even a 2nd rounder away for a player like him; we had to GIVE UP a 2nd rounder just to unload Novak, who, while overpaid for the mins we gave him, is at least good at one thing.

                • CashGameND

                  oh. i certainly wouldnt expect anything in return. just the cap space lol

                • Bluth

                  Just saying it would be hard to unload at all, there are plenty of on the cusp players in the FA, there’s no motivation whatsoever to help the Raps clear cap space without something in return and the almost 2M ain’t even worth giving up a 2nd rounder for.

                • noname

                  but De colo is a much better player than Novak…he comes from the spurs system…he can shoot (although we haven’t seen that), he is a very good passer (the eye test confirmed that for me), and he is a much better defender than Vasquez. Honestly vasquez is more popular amongst the squad and the fan base, but De colo is a better player he just didn’t get the minutes to show it. He would make a perfect backup to lowry but I get the feeling he is gone.

                • Bluth

                  A PG who can’t shoot (until I see it, which like everyone else, have seen little of) and can’t penetrate on a regular basis is pretty much useless in this league (what good is passing skills if the defender doesn’t respect your offense?). Being able to defend is good, but he’s no Avery Bradley.

                  I honestly think that players plugged outta the Spurs system is a curse, if anything. The system props up their value, as soon as players leave (see Gary Neal and to a lesser extent George Hill), they produce less.

                • noname

                  search him up and watch his san antonio highlights…he can shoot.

                • Jason Kone

                  Yeah I think there’s a lot of undervaluing of DeColo going on here just bc people haven’t see much of what he can do, he was traded from arguably the deepest roster in the last 10 years to another deep team with 2 starting PGs about to shorten their rotation for the playoffs. go watch some of his SA highlights or watch some of his play with team France and it will become obvious why there was so much hype around this guy in the 1st place. Bc of the fact that skilled players are not given as much time to develop as ultra athletic players (and I understand from a GM trying to keep his job perspective why this is) a lot of guys like DeColo end up back in EU at a young age when I really think it would be in the best interest of more NBA teams to find a way to do it at home. I mean just look at half of the guys who play for Spain or Greece or Italy.

                • Mexiballer

                  I think Dwayne Casey realizes how much skill and potential De Colo has. He said “this kid can play” sometime after they acquired him. I dont think it will take much to keep him around if he wants to stay.

                  After taxes he is going to get approximately double the money he would make here. Still…does he really want to leave the N.B.A. and a great situation to go to Russia. I wouldn’t think so. We’ll know soon.

                • hummingbirdattentionspan

                  my feeling as well

            • DDayLewis

              The cap room is there if we want it. All Masai would need to do is rescind the qualifying offer.

          • That other guy

            Well yeah, we can’t really compare Russia to Western Europe. On many levels they’re very different (Nando is French). But it’s Moscow, one of the biggest cities, mainly a joyful playground for Russian billionaires.

            Thing is that, the strongest league in Europe is Spanish league, but the ones that have the most cash are Turkish and Russian leagues. They’re just tossing bags of money left and right. And not only in basketball. The more they spend, the stronger and more competitive their leagues become and CSKA is one of the elite clubs in European basketball. Remember Linas Kleiza? That dude got 3,2 mil € for the 2013-2014 season from one of the Turkish clubs. Yeaaaaah. Sonny Weems is playing for the same CSKA club and I think he earns even more than Kleiza.

            • Jason Kone

              Yeah man trust me I’m from the EU and for any Western or Central European (Nando is ethnic Portuguese from France) Russia is not considered European so that part of the equation is definitely not going to sway him. In fact, even though I left about 12 years ago, all of my family over there (in several different countries) say that there has been a very “us vs. them” culture/feeling w/ EU and Russia escalating over the last 2-3 years with Putin’s actions and anti-European rhetoric and a growing feeling that something big and bad is going to go down w/ Russia over the next 5-10 years or so. They have their own version of Golden Dawn (read: modern Nazis) that is gaining a lot of traction, Vice did a fascinating doc about it if you’re interested.

              I’m not trying to give you all a lesson in world politics on a basketball board haha, but my point is a Portuguese guy from ultra-liberal France is going to choose Canada (or even the US) over Putin’s 2014 mess of Russia (Moscow or not) every time unless the deal is MUCH better, especially since Russian leagues, despite their financial incentives, are kind of off the radar. The Russian leagues are not up to par w/ Spain, Italy, Greece, Croatia/Serbia, or even the Baltics bc unlike those regions Russia really doesn’t have a great flux of home-grown talent to fill the leagues despite it’s massive population. Sure CSKA is an elite club w/ incentives but Russia, Turkey, Israel, etc are all off the radar compared to the rest of EU, not just geographically but their leagues traditionally have only 1-2 good teams which end up just dominating the rest until Euroleague play time. I think we’ll get Nando back unless he’s A) unhappy in Toronto or B) worried that he won’t be able to stick in the NBA and it’s time to focus on building his EU profile.

  • Bluth

    What does this do to our cap situation if he signs with CSKA? Not sure how the rescind rule thing work.

    • arsenalist

      He comes off the cap entirely.

      • Bluth

        Stars are smiling in Ujiri’s direction then, and I’m all for it!

  • Jamshid

    It is time to say goodbye to him. If he wants to leave NBA for little bit more money, then so be it.

    • Minks77

      Are you kidding me? 1yr at 1.8 vs 2yrs at 4 works out to 2.2 million reasons plus he gets to actually play where here he’s so low on the depth chart it’s not funny.

      • Mexiballer

        Youre assuming a lot. Leaving the dream of playing in N.B.A. to play in ice cold Russia? Two different levels of competition and class. Hotels, flights, food, stadiums, coaching, facilities etc. Everything is a step down in Russia. The N.B.A. is the elite league in this world…Russia is not.

        We also dont know if the Raptors may not offer him a second year. Im not saying he is not going to Russia or anywhere else. But it is not as certain as you are making it sound.

        • Minks77

          I’m not assuming anything. He was offered a two year 3 million Euro (4.07million dollars) deal to go and play for one of the best teams in Europe. He is European and flights from Moscow to Paris are a lot shorter than Toronto > Paris. They apparently don’t get taxed and get housing paid for. You may have also noticed that Toronto is a goddamned freezer from November through March and most of April which happens to coincide with the basketball season. The raps put out a QO: 1 year, 1.8million. These are the facts.

          The only part of your response that was factual is that yes, The NBA is the top league. But if you are a fringe player and get offered PT and more money to take a “step down” wouldn’t you take it? What if NdC takes Toronto’s offer and blows out his knee? then what? What if he never gets on the court? What is his next contract gonna look like?

          • Minks77

            PS: that second paragraph has some assumptions for ya 😉

            • Mexiballer

              No…I wouldnt take it. He is young and he is just starting to move up the learning curve with what he learned in San Antonio and Toronto. Now he is here with a great group of guys, excellent coaching staff, great organization, excellent facilities and competing against the best players in the world.

              If he wants to be better and move to the the next level, here and now in Toronto is the time to do it.

              So if it was me I wouldn’t even consider going to Russia.

              You are saying he is out of here. I have no idea what he will do.

              • Minks77

                That’s not what I actually said but if I were in his shoes I’d take it, get that cheque, improve my game by actually playing THEN try to gauge interest in the NBA. Lots of guys have done it before.

                • GoingBig

                  He’s 27 years old – there’s an upper limit on his improving. He’s not a rookie – that’s why some people are up on him – steadier

                • Minks77

                  maybe he can at least assure us that Sonny Weems is indeed still alive and well and not found his way to the bottom of a gulag somewhere

              • Godson82

                He’s going to be buried on the bench why wouldn’ t he take the offer to play in Russia. How much can he learn as the 3rd guard off the bench? He can learn a lot more by being the man on an elite Euro squad and playing significant minutes. Plus his $1.8 million offer is taxed at 50%, in Russia he won’t pay close to that in taxes. You assume he will get better on the bench in Toronto, but you only get better by playing and there won’t be any minutes for him if we keep Vasquez

                • Mexiballer

                  For sure he will play a lot more game time minutes in Russia. And for sure it is key in a players development. But I disagree when you say “but you only get better by playing.” There are several ways to get better. Practicing daily, good coaching, playing in summer leagues, hitting the weight room, watching film etc.

                  Demar has made his biggest improvements over the summer by working on his game daily.
                  De Colo could do the same if he chooses to do that. Terrance, J.V, and Amir are all working on their games right now and it will show come training camp.

                  Demar also plays in the L.A. Drew league every summer with some very good players including James Harden. If De Colo wants to be on the floor against a good level of competition he can do the same.

                  So while playing time is definitely important, you dont always have to leave the N.B.A. to get better by getting playing time in a lesser league. In a lot of ways it can be a step back.

                  Its not a clear cut decision, a lot of thing factor in and obviously not everyone one would make the decision. I know very little about De Colo and I have no idea what he will do. But I think he is in a good spot.

          • Jason Kone

            I posted this above but you’re forgetting that Europeans (I am one living in N. America for the last 12 years but still have most of my fam there) do NOT consider Russia Europe. Right now there is massive tension between Putin’s anti-EU Russia and the rest of Western/Central Europe, to the point where a lot of Western Europeans working in Moscow region are getting the F out for fear something is gonna go down soon. A French/Portuguese man would choose the US or Canada over Moscow in 2014 any day of the week. If it were any other European country I’d agree with you but it being Russia is a BIG negative in 2014. Plus, their league isn’t even top 3 in EU, they have like 2 good teams and are geographically and politically isolated from all the quality EU play (Spain, Italy, Greece, Balkans, Baltics, etc).

            • Minks77

              That’s a very fair point. As a Canadian who has only recently returned to life over here from the EU I see your point but political overtones aside I knew a few peeps over there who worked and vacationed in various parts of Russia. Governments beefing doesn’t always have a direct impact on how citizens feel or act but I can see how recent events in the Ukraine may be having a larger impact on individual choices. Before the post-Sochi events it was kind of a different story. Although many in the EU have long cast a suspicious eye at Russia it sure hasn’t stopped them from doing lots of business there including hooping.

  • Jensan

    Say goodbye to de Colo, wish him great success. The monies Nando is also tax free , with a free Condo

  • jvubb

    Do we retain his NBA rights when and if he wants to come back to the NBA?

    • arsenalist

      No.

  • ddd

    i wish him all the best, plus this gives us a bit more money to work with and another roster spot. hopefully we get a backup center

  • lol

    He didn’t really have a role if Vazquez is back and he’ll be behind Lou as well

    • Jason Kone

      ugh don’t remind about Lou Williams. Why we wanted that waste of space I’ll never understand. 5’11”, can’t defend, shoots at a very low % at a high volume, can’t even secure a starting job on the sub 500 teams he’s been on, WHY did we want him when we have DeRozan who is the same player but 100x better?

      • BraLLer

        He is a salmons upgrade. Unless you prefer john.

      • KuH

        In one word … Bebe.

        That trade, in my mind, is all about turning John Salmons into a first round draft pick from last year. Lou Williams is filler … and if he proves to be OK can be traded after he is proven to be able to play.

  • mike, prague

    Nando should take it. It is a bit of a gamble, but it could work out. The risk is it being a one-way trip to Europe, if he doesn’t excel enough there. Hopefully he can raise his stock there while earning some extra cash. All the best Nando!

  • Marc

    He’s definitely underrated ..but if we sign Vasquez ..he’ll get even less playing time because Lou Williams is there too …I’d like him to stay and to give him 15 mins a game

    • ?

      And this is why you’re not a coach in the NBA

      • Jason Kone

        are you kidding man? I’d much rather see us develop a young, big, skilled play maker who can defend than tiny Lou Williams who shoots at a high volume/low %, dominates he ball, and can’t defend for $h1t. We know what Lou Williams is, and there’s a reason he can’t even secure a starting job on a sub 500 team.

        • Xtremenator1

          By that theory Jamal Crawford, James Harden (before move to Houston), and Manu Ginobli are terrible players.

        • ?

          Are YOU kidding ME? Go look at his PER before he had his injury, it would rank higher than pretty much anyone on our team. And when didn’t he crack a starting spot on a sub .500 team? Last year when he was coming off a major injury, and that’s what you’re basing your judgement of him on? Gimme a break.. Dude has been averaging closer to 15 ppg OFF THE BENCH for most of his career, he fills a desperately needed role on this team. And yeah, anyone who thinks Nando de colo should get 15 mins a game with Lowry, Derozan, Vasquez & Lou Williams ahead of him should not be a coach in the NBA.

          • ?

            Not to mention Tross can also play SG, meaning another one ahead of him on the depth chart. I’m not saying De Colo is bad. But Im responding to the original post suggesting he should get 15 mpg on this team.

    • BraLLer

      Vasquez will play more than Williams initally. Unless lou returns to his pre injury self. All in all. He is a bench upgrade compared to salmons,not drastic though.

  • RobertArchibald

    Ciao Nando. Liked your style of play, but was never the believer that a lot of people here were. Good for him, good for Raps. Win-win.

  • Raptogram

    Question is, could Nando be the next Dragic?

    • Ho Tep

      Maybe Myck Kabongo can be the next Nando. Nine minutes of maple syrup isn’t going to kill anybody.

    • Jason Kone

      No I don’t think their style of play is that similar. Even early in Dragic’s career w/ Phoenix it was obvious he was something very special, remember his 20 points in the 4th quarter in a playoff game vs. the Spurs as a rookie?

      I think Nando could be the next Manu though. Not as quick or creative on offense, but also a better defender. It would be terrible to see him leave for some nobody NCAA player that will be gone in a few months just over a couple mill. This guy has really got potential.

  • Lets Play

    Goodbye Nando, say hi to Sonny for us

  • Bendit

    All this based on French reports and tweeted by someone named David Pick.

    • jjdynomite

      ….Pick is a veteran reporter who exclusively covers Euroball. Could you name another reporter who covers Euroball?

      • Bendit

        And you are sure about the veracity of his info at all times? Ric Bucher is a veteran reporter who exclusively covers the NBA. Has there been any corroborating verification of this report?

  • Xtremenator1

    Best of luck to him, but if he goes this gives us more cap space to sign someone else (especially if they get rid of Stone and Buycks).

  • BraLLer

    Tomislav zubcic. Wonder if this guy is ever coming over?

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