Masai Ujiri

It was just one day ago that I did a deep dive into the Toronto Raptors’ salary cap situation to try and make heads or tails out of what is permanently a murky situation. The CBA, it ain’t child’s play.

Because the offseason is the best, that cap review was relevant for all of about seven minutes. Since then, the Raptors have signed Patrick Patterson to a three-year, $18 million deal (#2Pat4Sure6Mill) and traded Steve Novak to the Utah Jazz, along with a second-round pick, for Diante Garrett, who they will waive.

So, let’s update. I’ll move through things a little faster this go-‘round, since we went deep with explanation in the last one.

All salary data comes via Sham Sports, except in the case of reported deals, where assumptions are stated. Help sorting through exceptions and the like comes via Larry Coon’s CBA FAQ.

Salary cap – $63.2M, Luxury Tax – $77M

On The Books – Guaranteed Contracts and Marcus Camby
Kyle Lowry – $12M(Technically, his first year salary could be as low as $10.725M or as high as $13.425M, but we are assuming a straight 12-12-12-12)
DeMar DeRozan – $9.5M
Amir Johnson – $7M (only $5M is guaranteed, so the Raptors could clear $2M by waiving him by Jan. 10)
Landry Fields – $6.25M (using the stretch provision could knock this to $2.083M over three years)
Patrick Patterson – $6M (Technically, his first year salary could be as low as $5.575M or as high as $6.475M, but we are assuming a straight 6-6-6)
Chuck Hayes – $5.96M (using the stretch provision could knock this to $1.987M over three years)
Lou Williams – $5.45M
Jonas Valanciunas – $3.68M
Tyler Hansbrough – $3.33M
Terrence Ross – $2.79M
Marcus Camby – $646,609 remaining on buyout (even if Camby returns, as he reportedly hopes to, the Raptors would not receive any relief on this number in any realistic scenario)

Non-Guaranteed Deals, Rookies and Cap Holds
Greivis Vasquez – $3.2M qualifying offer ($5.38M cap hold if QO rescinded)
Nando De Colo – $1.83M qualifying offer ($1.9M cap hold if QO rescinded)
Julyan Stone – $948,163 if on roster past Monday
Dwight Buycks – $816,482 if on roster past July 22
Diante Garrett – $915,243 with no guarantee date (his deal would be guaranteed on Jan. 10)
Bruno Caboclo – $1.22M cap hold ($1.46M his likely salary at 120% of scale)
Bebe Nogueira – $1.47M cap hold ($1.7M his likely salary at 120% of scale)

The Cap Sheet, July 5, 11 a.m.
Regardless of what could happen or what assumptions we’ll make later, this is what the cap sheet currently looks like for the Raptors:

Player Cap Type Amount
Kyle Lowry Contract $12,000,000
DeMar DeRozan Contract $9,500,000
Amir Johnson Contract $7,000,000
Landry Fields Contract $6,250,000
Patrick Patterson Contract $6,000,000
Chuck Hayes Contract $5,958,750
Lou Williams Contract $5,450,000
Jonas Valanciunas Contract $3,678,360
Tyler Hansbrough Contract $3,326,235
Terrence Ross Contract $2,793,960
Marcus Camby Buyout $646,609
SUBTOTAL GUARANTEED $62,603,914
Julyan Stone Non-guaranteed $948,163
Diante Garrett Non-guaranteed $915,243
Dwight Buycks Non-guaranteed $816,482
SUBTOTAL ROSTER $65,283,802
Bruno Caboclo Draft Pick Cap Hold $1,215,300
Bebe Nogueira Draft Pick Cap Hold $1,468,900
Greivis Vasquez RFA Qualifying Offer $3,203,780
Nando De Colo RFA Qualifying Offer $1,828,750
SUBTOTAL SALARY CAP $73,000,532

You could also pencil in DeAndre Daniels, the second-round pick who may or may not play in Europe this season but is tough to account for financially since he has no cap hold and no rookie scale to follow for a contract (he can negotiate whatever). He’s a bit of a wildcard, but the assumption, which will make more sense shortly, is that he won’t be with the team.

The Raptors have $62.6 million in contracts guaranteed to 10 roster players, meaning once cap holds are accounted for (even if they renounced everyone other than those 10, minimum roster charges for the final two roster spots would add over $1M on the books), the team has no “cap space.”

That does not, however, mean they don’t have the flexibility to add pieces around these 10 names.

What the Cap Sheet Really Looks Like, July 5, 11 a.m.
Stone, Buycks and Garrett are almost surely gone. Let’s also assume that Caboclo is going to play in Toronto, as has been stated, and that Bebe is coming as well (this has been hinted at). We’ll assume they get 120 percent of scale because everyone gets 120 percent of scale, with very rare exceptions. If you think the Raptors would risk pissing off players by going less, feel free to knock a couple hundred K off the salaries for the rookies.

Anyway, this is what the books “really” look like, for the purposes of figuring out how much room the team has to operate:

Player Cap Type Amount
Kyle Lowry Contract $12,000,000
DeMar DeRozan Contract $9,500,000
Amir Johnson Contract $7,000,000
Landry Fields Contract $6,250,000
Patrick Patterson Contract $6,000,000
Chuck Hayes Contract $5,958,750
Lou Williams Contract $5,450,000
Jonas Valanciunas Contract $3,678,360
Tyler Hansbrough Contract $3,326,235
Terrence Ross Contract $2,793,960
Bruno Caboclo 120% of Rookie Scale $1,458,360
Bebe Nogueira 120% of Rookie Scale $1,762,680
Marcus Camby Buyout $646,609
SUBTOTAL 12-Man Roster $65,824,954
TAX ROOM NO CAP SPACE $11,175,046
Nando De Colo RFA Qualifying Offer $1,828,750
Greivis Vasquez RFA Qualifying Offer $3,203,780
TBD Mid-Level Exception $5,305,000
TBD Bi-Annual Exception $2,077,000

With the 12 names assumed to be on the books, the Raptors have a hair over $11M to work with to stay under the cap.

How Can They Use That Space?
Vasquez – They’re free to sign Vasquez to whatever deal they like without concern for the cap, since they have his Bird rights. Rumors have Vasquez earning in the $5M range, but assume the range is $4-6M to be safe.

De Colo – Personally, I think De Colo is as good as gone and the team will rescind his QO as soon as a Vasquez deal is done. There’s a minor risk he would sign a $1.8M qualifying offer, and while that’s not a killer salary, the Raptors don’t have the room – roster or financial – to simply allow him to do so.

Mid-Level Exception – The team is free to use the full mid-level exception as a team that’s over the cap and a non-taxpayer. There is a minor concern, however, if Vasquez comes in around $6M, that the combination of the MLE and Bi-Annual Exception (BAE for short, because you gotta show those veterans love) would push the Raptors above the tax line. That would mean that the “apron” (roughly $81M) would become a hard cap for the Raptors that they would be unable to cross for the entire season. That’s a very minor concern given the roster and financial realities for this team, but it’s worth noting.

Anyway, the MLE can be split between multiple players or used on a single name. Contracts can be up to four years long, starting at $5.305M in year one and, if raises are maxed, totalling $22.7M. A three-year full MLE with full raises would total $16.64M. The BAE can’t exceed a two-year deal, meaning if it’s used entirely on one player (almost always the case), it would be either a one-year, $2.077M deal or a two-year, $4.25M deal.

Playing With Vasquez+MLE Assumptions
So, they have 12 players if the rookies sign on, and it sounds as if a Vasquez deal is getting done. In that case, here’s what the roster looks like by position:

PG: Lowry, Vasquez, Williams
SG: DeRozan, Ross, Vasquez, Williams
SF: DeRozan, Ross, Fields, Caboclo
PF: Johnson, Patterson, Fields, Hansbrough
C: Valanciunas, Hayes, Nogueira

I placed players in multiple positions there, but let’s get a different look:

Guards: Lowry, Vasquez, Williams
Wings: DeRozan, Ross, Fields, Caboclo
Bigs: Johnson, Patterson, Valanciunas, Hayes, Hansbrough, Nogueira

The team is fairly set with three capable ball-handlers and, whether or not you like the names that follow the three primary frontcourt players, there are at least a lot of interior names. But damn, do they need another wing, or what?

I know, I know, Williams and Vasquez can play the two, and the Lowry-Vasquez look was often a great one. That’s fine, and I’d be content with that being a core strategic element entering the season. However, the wing rotation is still painfully thin – an injury to Lowry, DeRozan or Ross would mean Fields and even Caboclo are being relied upon fairly heavily. If the team wants to use the full MLE to add another wing, preferably one with size, then the most they can offer Vasquez is $5.8M in year one, which would have to be considered the absolute high end of his range.

Player Cap Type Amount
Kyle Lowry Contract $12,000,000
DeMar DeRozan Contract $9,500,000
Amir Johnson Contract $7,000,000
Landry Fields Contract $6,250,000
Patrick Patterson Contract $6,000,000
Chuck Hayes Contract $5,958,750
Lou Williams Contract $5,450,000
Jonas Valanciunas Contract $3,678,360
Tyler Hansbrough Contract $3,326,235
Terrence Ross Contract $2,793,960
Bruno Caboclo 120% of Rookie Scale $1,458,360
Bebe Nogueira 120% of Rookie Scale $1,762,680
Marcus Camby Buyout $646,609
Greivis Vasquez RFA Deal $5,000,000
TBD Mid-Level Exception $5,305,000
SUBTOTAL 12-Man Roster $76,129,954
TAX ROOM NO CAP SPACE $870,046

Again: The Raptors should have room beneath the tax line to re-sign Vasquez and use the full MLE. That would leave them with a roster of 14 and possibly enough room to sign a 15th on a minimum deal. It’s also possible they have more room than we think based on the structure of deals for Lowry and Patterson, but those are unsafe assumptions. The key here is that the team has room for a reasonable Vasquez deal (unless you find a $5M AAV unreasonable, which you’re within your rights to) and use of the MLE.

Wing Targets
Unfortunately, there aren’t many great wing targets available in the MLE price range (the team could always make further moves to carve out space, or make a trade for a wing, but we’re in free agent mode here). Here are some names that intrigue me that could be in the budget:

Al-Farouq Aminu – He can’t shoot and he seems a bit of a head case, but he can be a great defender and is an elite wing rebounder. As for this makeup issues, well, he’s been coached by Vinny Del Negro and Monty Williams, so who knows how much of that is situational.
Shawn Marion – My guess is he stays in Dallas anyway, but he’d fit the defensive hole on the team perfectly.
Marvin Williams – It ain’t sexy but he can play some defense, hit the three and is still just 27.
Evan Turner – Not for basketball reasons, this would just be hilarious.
Brandon Rush, Chris Douglas-Roberts – Far less at the high end than some other names but would come cheap.
P.J. Tucker – I’m not sure the MLE would be enough that Phoenix wouldn’t match, but it’d be interesting to try as they angle to make a big splash.
Francisco Garcia – Would definitely help with spacing and he’s not a bad defender.
Mike Miller, Richard Jefferson, Rashard Lewis – Can’t see these guys signing for perceived non-contenders.
Vince Carter – Duh.

Those are just off the top of my head. Any other options you like?

134 Responses to “Toronto Raptors Salary Cap Update – Post-Patterson Signing, Novak Trade”

  1. Joey Drummond

    Your charts are ponderous and confusing bro. Last one has 14 players (including the potential MLE you identified), but it says 12 man roster. Then it says no cap space, but then lists the cap space. This is the least useful cap space article I’ve seen. I don’t say that to be harsh, I realize you are not an expert, but keep it simple man.

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    • 70-92

      I disagree, I thought this was as simple and easy-to-read as possible considering all the absurdities of the NBA cap rules etc. Good job!

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    • James Mahoney

      The amount listed after No Cap Space is the room they have under the $77M luxury tax (that was more clearly outlined in the previous article. Everyone’s got their own opinions but I love these cap updates.

      Thanks a lot Blake! Keep ’em coming.

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  2. KuH

    Definitely like PJ Tucker, and worth everything we can throw at him.
    Vince Carter is interesting to consider: it could work well; it could be a disaster. Can we get 1 year of him?
    None of the other names really float my boat: I’d rather see if Fields recovers and how our rooks work out.

    I’m not so sure that Nando is gone myself. He could very well be signed.
    I’d also expect Masai to explore trades to shore up the wing spot, especially if he brings Nando back.

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    • Rap fan 2

      Yeah, Landry is big enough to give Joe Johnson some problems. His overall game is good, he’s a high IQ player. He just needs to grind, perfect and relearn his shot. Give him the best shooting coach and just go to the gym and relearn the shooting stroke. There’s really no short cuts.

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  3. Raymond

    Marcus Camby? whose that girl? We don’t need him even he wants to come back. I may wonder which contender want a 40 years old man.

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    • Andre

      I like that Idea.. I wonder how he is doing… Im guessing no luol Deng?

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          • StrikerAI

            If GV goes to the Bucks, I honestly think we should strongly consider signing Carter. He is experienced, good shooter and a better defender than Vasquez. His and Lou’s bench scoring could be the difference maker in the Playoffs. Plus Carter can also make big shots like he did in Game 3 against the Spurs.

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        • Tbird

          Williams and fields should be pitched as sign and trade with cavs for Deng. Throw in a second round pick and it works for both teams. Xavier is not big enough to play SF, it doesn’t matter how many minutes he played at that position as a laker under D’Antoni playing small ball and being a lottery team! Those aren’t players you want! Marvin Williams and Aminu are best bets if can’t get Deng done.

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          • DDayLewis

            Why would Cleveland want Williams and Fields? We’d have to give up at least a first-rounder for them to take their deals for any kind of sign-and-trade for Deng.

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    • JunkYardDog

      He is an SG , I dont think he is big enough to guard guys like Joe Johnson , LeBron James , Luol Deng, Melo e.tc.. We need a legit SF at least 6’8 220 lbs or we won’t be able to guard anyone. Ross and DeMar are just not big enough.

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        • Marnix Saynor

          I like the idea but I don’t think he’s much of a defender or athlete seems content shooting jump shots and being slow

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  4. Roarque

    Blake, you make a good case for WInce as long as he’s not showing up with any attitude that pisses off the current leaders of the room. And he could neutralize Joe Johnson all season. First time he sulks though, POW right in the kisser!

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    • Minks77

      Again with the VC vs JJ talk. STOP IT! VC is a low minute bench player, Joe Johnson is a 32mpg starter. VC aint neutralizing shit.

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  5. RaptorFan

    Great Post Blake … Thanks for breaking it down. I have few questions that was hoping you can answer. Based on hoops hype, Camby’s salary is around 4 million for 2014-2015 … how is the Cap hold so much lower ? Also, can you look back at AB’s trade and tell us how much Cap hold we had ( if we did not trade Novak) this year … As I remember , we had Camby, Richardson and Novak coming back. Thanks again

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  6. JunkYardDog

    What about a guy like Danny Granger , would be a great fit , he could also start at SF and we can bring Ross of the bench if we want. He can score plus is an average defender. I don’t know if he would like to play with the Raptors though.

    Another guy worth considering is Metta World Peace , i know he is borderline psycho but if he is on his game he can still be a lockdown defender , he never really got to play with the Knicks.

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    • Raptorholic

      Granger should get strong consideration. 2yrs. 5 million with a team option for the second year. 6′-10″ wing player with great agility, good shooter and can play defence when motivated. Lowry can keep his crazy stuff in check!

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  7. Ragnar

    Wow. This is one solid and informative post about our biggest (& last) priority going into next season. Thanks!

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    • Taattzz

      We need Matt Barnes and clippers need him gone!!! He has a very reasonable contract at what 3 mill annually I believe? Clippers are loaded with sf and it’s well known they want him gone to free up space for players like pierce / hawes

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      • ACwhitby

        We need a defensive wing who can start, with TRoss coming off the bench. Barnes can defend and has enough credibility, having been on winning teams, to start and get decent calls coming his way, and PJ Tucker has gotten a lot of exposure with the up-and-coming Suns– I wonder if the Raps were one of the teams that called Phoenix about a sign and trade.

        While I like Aminu, I don’t know if I could start him ahead of Ross.

        I don’t know if Trevor Ariza would play for what we would pay, but I could see him starting at the 3.

        Other than that, it becomes time to look at trades for that defensive wing… Corey Brewer, if he could clamp down on his shooting… would love Kidd-Gilchrist on this team, but I don’t know who the Raptors could throw in with Ross, short of one of the Brazilians who look untouchable…

        Eek, going through the NBA’s depth list, it’s pretty hard to find a defensive stopper who one could justify starting ahead of TRoss, and who the Raptors could get under the cap without trading away more salary.

        Another thing is that, as much as I like Vasquez, he might be more valuable in a sign-and-trade for a wing, keeping Lou Williams as the backup…

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  8. Sf

    The wing debate is interesting. I would welcome any one of Aminu, Marion, tucker or marv Williams. Maybe Casey could recruit the matrix?? This team would be sick with a bench of Vasquez, sweet Lou, Marion, 2Pat and HAMsbro

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    • Kreuzbälle

      Matt Barnes on the Raptors would be a dream come true! He can hit big shots and harass the best wings in the league defensively. Plays with so much heart and would fit fantastically with our guys – so long as he can stomach leaving LA behind.

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    • ahoang

      +1 Matt Barnes. Didn’t we have a deal in place for him a few years back?

      Give greasy his 5 mil.

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    • caccia

      Hayes averaged 2.2 points per game and 3.6 rebounds. Tyler averaged 4.9 points per game and 4.5 rebounds. Get your facts straight.

      Tyler also ranks in the top five among NBA power forwards in offensive rebounds and free throws per 36 minutes; also 15 in total rebounds per 36. Johnson and Patterson rank 46 and 48, respectively. Hayes ranks 55 among centres in rebounds per 36 minutes and 96 in points. Which guy would you rather have as your back-up centre–even if playing out of position?

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      • statbindness

        Not a poor defending, out of control, foul machine. For every 1 0f 2 FTs he makes, he gives up 2 of 2

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        • caccia

          Johnson, Valanciunas, Hansbrough all have defensive ratings of 104, Patterson 103, Hayes 102, according to Basketball Reference. At RealGM, Johnson, Hansbrough, and Patterson rank 23, 24, 25, one spot ahead of LaMarcus Aldridge. So your idea of poor defence must apply to the entire front court.

          Another interesting stat from RealGM is the efficiency differential. Novak was ranked 3, Hansbrough 7, Johnson 19, and Patterson 29: a good showing for the Toronto power forwards.

          As to fouls, it’s not a question of being out of control, it’s a matter of a physical style of play, which Patterson does not yet have. Hansbrough (4.9), Hayes (4.8), and Johnson (4.4) are one-two-three on the team in fouls per 36 minutes. But I agree, Tyler needs to cut down on unnecessary fouls the coming season.

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  9. Chewwy No Matthew

    I still cringe when I see we have to pay Marcus Camby even a dime. The guy didn’t want to be here yet still get’s paid by us. Pathetic

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    • jjdynomite

      I am actually happy when I see Camby up there because that means $12 million of Bustnani is off the books. Thanks Colangelo!

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  10. jvubb

    Also we can use our trade exception instead of the MLE to pick up a SF as a salary dum. Gay’s trade exception is over 4M. Can we combine MLE/trade exception? Or maybe TPE with a Buycks unguaranteed contract.

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    • jvubb

      And maybe a bigger deal with Chuck Hayes + TPE (trade exception) (worth 9M) and we bring back a decent wing. Then use the MLE to acquire a better big.

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  11. feylines

    If we sign de colo and then look to trade or s&t a package including williams for a wing, who would then be the realistic targets?

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  12. mountio

    maybe i should know this, but is going over the tax just a complete non-starter?
    all of the analysis seems to assume there is no way we are doing that – but i guess two questions:
    1) what are our options if we do (and are they materially different than not … it seems like they arent)
    2) what are the penalties if we do? I realize there is the dollar for dollar tax, but I think its a lot more punative than that as we also dont get anything from tax paying teams (but do we now?) and I think it potentially sets us up for being a repeat tax payer, which I understand is very punative in the new CBA … so perhaps none of this is worth it to go a few million bucks over the tax. Anyways .. any simpleton help on this would be appreciated.

    and btw – I find these articles helpful. Some complaints here, but I find they do a good job of explaining reasonably complex stuff..

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    • jpaps

      Last year all non-tax paying teams received about $3M directly from the teams that did pay the tax so there’s that.

      The only legitimate penalty that you did not cover was the mid level exception (MLE). There are 2 versions of this: tax payer MLE and non-tax payer MLE. The non tax paying teams can offer a larger contract than those who pay (I think its something like 3.5M for tax payers and 5.7M for non tax payers but those numbers may be a little off).

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      • mountio

        thanks. If Im thinking about this right, then if we really thought we were a contender than we should be thinking about sign and trades for high priced players (Deng, Parsons, etc) that would take us over the tax. The only negative iplication (other than financial) is that next year we wont have the same amount of cap space that we otherwise would have when fields, hayes, williams etc come off the books and thus couldnt make as big a splash in next years free agency. Is that right? I guess there are also potential implications when it comes time to pay Ross and JV …

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  13. Jensan

    Do a TPE trade , Toronto has 2 ( Bargs and another for Rudy gay) there are teams, contenders, who have players they want to rid themselves of…. Matt Barnes, a S & T for a Jordan Hill( back up center) or Zaza Pachullia.;

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  14. Jensan

    You can go over the luxury tax unto an apron of 4 million dollars up to 81, by the end of the year move under the luxury tax.
    Until you believe you are a contender most people do not exceed the tax.

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  15. Slap Dog Hoops

    I cannot believe that DeMar Derozan is getting just 9.5$ million this season and I remember how Raptors fans where whining and bitching on how he was too expensive. Just goes to show how little Canadians in general know about NBA basketball.

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    • Anonapotamus

      I’m not sure what this has to do with Canadians not knowing anything about NBA basketball. I’m pretty sure fans of any team in any sport feel that way for a good chunk of contracts when they get signed. There’s always a chance when a guy gets a big raise that he’s not gonna live up to it.

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    • StrikerAI

      It has nothing to with not knowing about NBA, it has to do with Demar actually playing well enough last season to live up to his contract. Before last season he was overpaid.

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      • CJT

        No he wasn’t. Last year was the first year he had his raise. He was a great value before last year as well.

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        • StrikerAI

          In 2012 BC gave him a 4 year, $40 million dollar extension, that’s when he became overpaid. Last season he lived up to contract.

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          • goback toschool

            That’s $38M, not 40,,,, and that contract extension did not come into effect until this past season. The season before he was making something like $3.4M. If he lived up to his contract last year, where is this phantom year that he was overpaid?

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            • Beez

              preach!! Demar has always been paid appropriately. Except this season when he was underpaid!! Best moves of BC’s tenure involve our current starting line up.

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    • DC

      “Just goes to show how little Canadians in general know about NBA basketball.”

      Excepting yourself, presumably?

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    • Minks77

      Leaguewide it was considered an overpay at the time. Same as Amir. The real head scratcher was why BC did it on the eve of the season and not wait to make him an RFA and let the market decide his perceived value. BC sure did love to pay guys.

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      • Beez

        It was because BC had the foresight to see that Demar was going to be worth a lot more than $9.5 mill a season a lot sooner than the rest of the league figured. Credit goes fully to BC and to Demar.

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        • Minks77

          Credit DD for sure, he’s earned every penny but I think DD is fairly paid now.

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          • CJT

            Well, I don’t really know the answer to that, but it seems to me that if BC was sure he was going to be pair more than that during free agency, then maybe it was a pretty savvy move to lock him up at a reasonable rate while he could. Seems like maybe he was right.

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  16. HQ

    To be honest, I wouldn’t mind a guy like Evan Turner. If we can squeeze him just under what his current salary was, would not mind at all.

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    • jjdynomite

      Why would you want a crappier — weak D, too small to guard big SFs, no 3PT shot — version of DeMar?! If he wasn’t drafted 2nd overall nobody would give two shits about Turner.

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      • HQ

        Because he can produce. It’s not about who he’s a crappier version of, he can be a valuable asset on any team in the NBA. I’m just saying that if given the opportunity, I’d take him at the right price. He has a fairly decent market value as a trading chip too.

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        • jjdynomite

          Funny enough, the Pacers didn’t see in him much of a “valuable asset” and most observers saw it as a whiffed trade. And neither did the second worst team in the league, the Sixers, who traded him for cap relief in the form of Granger. Did you not watch this season at all, or just go by the fact he was drafted second overall? But hey, so was Hasheem Thabeet. Go figure.

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          • HQ

            Haha, I’m not vouching that hard for him, just saying he’s a decent candidate. No way on top of any priority list.

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  17. Mexiballer

    I guess Im the only one who thinks that the Raptors will either sign Vasquez to an inexpensive contract or let him walk.
    4 million give or take a few dollars

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    • StrikerAI

      $4.5 million was the rumor for signing Vasquez, and that is the max I’d give him.

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  18. Paul

    This site is amazing. The “professionals” who get paid to write about this team don’t even come close. Keep up the great work!

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    • Bryan Colangelo

      I’m convinced Doug Smith steals most of his ‘insight’ and topics from blogs like this, without crediting or acknowledging the incredible depth, creativity and analysis sites like Raptors Republic provide.

      I think Raptors Republic deserves some credit for Toronto’s reputation of having surprisingly savvy and informed basketball fans.

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      • DSBS

        Appreciate that we have a venue that provides comprehensive analysis, agreeable or not, but no need to join the petty, and childish, Doug Smith dissing chorus. He openly proposes not to do this kind of stuff, and focuses on his view of the human side of the game, team, and players. His insights don’t come from reading blogs, but following the team all season, and interacting directly with management, coaching, players, broadcasters, etc.. Dudes got his schtick, and it ain’t what’s provided here. Celebrate the variety. Don’t join the chorus.

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        • jjdynomite

          That’s funny, DSBS (Doug Smith Bull Shitter?), I think the exact opposite. First of all, there are unpaid writers on RaptorsRepublic who do write exclusively from a “human side” perspective, to name Garrett and Tamberlyn, for two.

          Second of all, Smitty as a veteran journalist is likely paid at least 85K — I used to work among them — and he has not grown *at all* as a reporter. Young guns like Wolstat break news — when was the last time Smitty had a tweet that was worth anything (does he even have a Twitter account?). Other young writers like Koreen make an effort to reach out to their readership, such as when he gave the TalkingRaptors boys a near-hour long interview as to his background and reporting methods. And not once did we hear about his son’s softball practice — or beer.

          Smith is anti-meritocratic — he only provides snide remarks (or bans) those who disagree with his lame blog. His “schtick” represents everything that’s wrong with a fossilized work culture. If that’s the “variety” you want in your Raptors coverage, that says far more about you than about Bryan Colangelo’s astute critique of what Smitty has on offer (which is nothing you can’t get far better elsewhere).

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          • Paul

            So bang on. It would be fine if Smitty was just a crappy writer who would rather remark on his favorite craft beers and hotels than actually discuss the team. The problem is he’s arrogant and dismissive with the fans. He refuses to discuss rumors or speculation because he hates it. Well guess what Doug, it’s not about what you like. It should be about the people who pay to read your crappy columns.
            I’ll never forget last year when he wrote an entire article on the Raptors upcoming schedule. Not how it would bode for the team, but how it would affect him personally. How much sleep he would get and where he would be stuffing his face. What an entitled, out of touch hack.
            Sorry for the rant, but that SOB is far past his expiration date.

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          • CJT

            This is one reason I love and hate this time of year. As the fans of the team don’t have anything player related to complain about, they turn to something and/or someone else to bitch about, because after all we are Toronto sports fans. This is a tired and boring topic of discussion. Moving on.

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      • Alex Vostrikov

        why you had to remind me of smith’s existence?
        I used to ream his blog for a while…. and then I came across THIS one. on the first topic I start reading, some one mentioned smith and his BS…. and I happen to agree. I mean, why would I wanna know what he ate last night on daily basis? are you serious?

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      • IceManLikeGervin

        The mainstream Toronto BBall fans aren’t savvy and informed just ask BC who got over on them for years building around a stiff named Bargnani and much more via pr spins in the wind…..smh lol

        MLSE is like the government as they control the TDot media and the reports that go forth concerning the Raptors- no critical thinking allowed if you want your paycheck & Raptors access just follow the memo’d talking points……

        I get the feeling that the Raptors actually meant to draft Capela @ #20 but sent in Cabolco’s name instead……

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  19. al

    This is how I see the roster..

    Pg: Lowry, Vasquez, Decals
    Sg: Derozan, Carter, Williams
    sf: Ross, Caboclo, Fields
    Pf: Johnson, Patterson, Hansbrough
    C: Valanciunas, Nogueira, Hayes

    I’m pretty sure this is how Ujiri sees it too. If you work it out we should be about 1million under the luxury tax.

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  20. BraLLer

    Alot of PJ Tucker talk. I don’t much about his game.. so who would you want and why. VC or PJ

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    • Philoveritas

      I think the ship has sailed on P.J. Tucker. Sure he was drafted by the Raps but he was demoted to the D-League twice before being waived for one-game-wonder Luke Jackson who also ended up getting waived. Stuff like that would more likely lead P.J. to want to take an any-team-but Toronto approach to his R.F.A. strategy.

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      • CJT

        Hasn’t PJ Tucker come out and said he had a bad attitude on his first go round and that he wasn’t ready to play in the NBA? I don’t think he would hold to a grudge when he has acknowledged that he was the problem. But again, who knows?

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        • hummingbirdattentionspan

          yeah I read that too – we could certainly use his skill set

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    • Minks77

      PJ in a HEARTBEAT.

      I’m laughing at the idea of VC, who is a 25mpg bench player, coming here to defend guys like ‘Bron and JJ. I’m a proud VC hater but even without the hate it makes NO sense to expect him to be a key defensive difference maker.

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      • BraLLer

        Good point. However, I doubt there are any players that can guard Lebron period. Unless we bring Bruce Bowen out of retirement. ** the dirty jump shot knee under shooters landing move.

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      • Tuneyain

        Funny thing is we actually drafted PJ Tucker in 06′, didn’t play much back then.

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    • Ho Tep

      But no talk about bringing Alan Anderson back, he did bully us some in the playoff series. He’d find himself playing 28 minutes knowing Casey.

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  21. cdub

    I’m really hoping they sign Carter. My main concern is his age but…he was still effective last year. I think he’d be a great backup 3. He can still score, he can defend, I think he would give us a pretty good second unit playing with vasquez, williams, and ppat. I just view him as a huge upgrade there over the likes of salmons and fields, even at 37.

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  22. Arob

    What about bringing back James Johnson he had a good year in Memphis or a guy like Chris Singleton from Washington or Wes Johnson from la?

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    • JunkYardDog

      Yeah I think James Johnson would be a perfect fit , he has improved his game since leaving the Raptors.

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    • Tamberlyn Richardson

      James Johnson went from being one of Casey’s favorites to being traded after a blow-out in practice where they went at each other. This was prior to me even writing for RR.

      I was standing in line waiting to order food & the ball boys were in front of me talking about the blow-out. I inched closer to hear the story & then after I ordered & we were standing beside each other I asked the kids some more information about it.

      Suffice to say Johnson used some inappropriate language and went at Casey. The surprising part was learning how the mild mannered Casey we see on post game shows didn’t back down and went right back at Johnson. Kind of gives you a whole new respect for Casey given James is well known for his martial arts background!

      Anyway, no way Casey will want that type of player back on the team after developing their great chemistry last season.

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  23. rayroy

    Thank you so very much for such an in depth summary of Raptors Salary Cap.
    I am very impressed with how Ujiri is managing the Raps cap space. Assuming Vasquez signs for about 5 mil/year, we would still have room to sign guys using the MLE & BAE. The only type of contract Ibelieve Ujiri should offer would be 2 year contracts with a team option for the second year. The reason for this is that I believe Ujiri is planning to make a big splash in next year’s free agency (max contract to either Kevin Love (more likely) or LaMarcus Aldridge). Our 2015/16 roster would include Lowry, DeRozan, Ross, Patterson, Valanciunas, Vasquez, Caboclo, Nogueira and 2015 1st round pick. Including our 2015 draft pick, our total salary (assuming we don’t have a MLE/BAE that goes into next year) would be approximately 45.5 mil. Assuming about a 5% increase in the cap to about 66 mil, that would give us the ablility to offer one max contract, and the only reasonable max contract worthy players, (assuming LeBron or Bosh don’t sign one year contracts), are Love and Aldridge. Toronto would then use the MLE & BAE next year to fill in the roster.
    I think Ujiri should get Marvin Williams or Aminu on a 3-5 mil 1st year, 3-5 mil team option 2nd year using the MLE, and then Aldrich 2 mil 1st year and 2 mil team option 2nd year.

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  24. asifyouknow

    Blake Murphy quote:
    “Al-Farouq Aminu – He can’t shoot and he seems a bit of a head case, but he can be a great defender and is an elite wing rebounder. As for this makeup issues, well, he’s been coached by Vinny Del Negro and Monty Williams, so who knows how much of that is situational.”

    I watched him a whole season in New Orleans, Casey loved Salmons, so he will fall in love with this guy in a second, he is a very good defender, quick as a cat and can jump out the gym, this is the perfect player for Casey.
    And yes he can’t shoot but heck Casey is a defensive guy, offense is not that important,,,,lol

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  25. Vin Domenico

    MU is my hero ive watched Bc and babcok make some dumbass moves this guy just gets it

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  26. rayroy

    Thank you so very much for such an in depth summary of Raptors Salary Cap.

    I am very impressed with how Ujiri is managing the Raps cap space. Assuming Vasquez signs for about 5 mil/year, we would still have room to sign guys using the MLE & BAE. The only type of contract Ibelieve Ujiri should offer would be 2 year contracts with a team option for the second year. The reason for this is that I believe Ujiri is planning to make a big splash in next year’s free agency (max contract to either Kevin Love (more likely) or LaMarcus Aldridge). Our 2015/16 roster would include Lowry, DeRozan, Ross, Patterson, Valanciunas, Vasquez, Caboclo, Nogueira and 2015 1st round pick. Including our 2015 draft pick, our total salary (assuming we don’t have a MLE/BAE that goes into next year) would be approximately 45.5 mil. Assuming about a 5% increase in the cap to about 66 mil, that would give us the ablility to offer one max contract, and the only reasonable max contract worthy players, (assuming LeBron or Bosh don’t sign one year contracts), are Love and Aldridge. Toronto would then use the MLE & BAE next year to fill in the roster.

    I think Ujiri should get Marvin Williams or Aminu on a 3-5 mil 1st year, 3-5 mil team option 2nd year using the MLE, and then Aldrich 2 mil 1st year and 2 mil team option 2nd year.

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    • hummingbirdattentionspan

      Just curious, how many max contracts do the Spurs have?
      In the present CBA max contracts and team success don’t seem to be able to coexist. Yeah I know James is the exception but beyond him is there a team that after expending their resources to acquire a max contract player can become a serious contender?

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      • Alex Vostrikov

        spurs don’t have any max deals… I think lol
        their big 3-4, all have modest deals, including parker and Duncan,
        now, I read diaw sign for 3 yrs at 22 mil…. first two years at 18.5 mil guarantied….. REALLY?
        he is a great guy, good teammate and player… but for 9 mil a year???? NUTS

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      • Greg Hall

        If I remember the Spurs Salary situation correctly Tony Parker makes 12.5 Million,Tim Duncan makes 10 Million a year, while no other player on the team makes more than 7 Million. Essentially they have all sacrificed major money to stay there and stay together.

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  27. Bart

    it is possible that the raptors sign bosh in any way?

    perhaps through sign and Trande

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    • hummingbirdattentionspan

      Nice CAP recap – thanks
      Sort of off topic but anyway
      I love a conspiracy theory and the Novak trade really alerted my sensors.
      Why do the Jazz do this trade?
      Is Novak the missing piece that gets them into the playoffs?
      Do they miss Korver that much?
      Is Garrett that much of a jerk that they just had to rid themselves of his services?
      Do the Jazz really like spending money?
      Is Novak a vital trading chip?
      Will the 2nd rounder be a sure fire rotation guy?
      Hmmmm do go on Homes.
      Repeated like a mantra, “Diante will be released immediately upon completion of the trade”. Oh? why? MU does not throw out assets. If he did, than John Lucas 3 would have served that purpose equally well and the Jazz could have kept Garrett who seems to be well regarded by a majority of their posters and saved some money over JL3’s contract.
      It appears to me that Diante was targeted and there is something greater in the works than just a salary dump. Did MU know before hand that de Colo has a Russian offer and might bolt? That does not seem to be enough of a motivator on its own to move Novak, to me anyway.
      So whats up?

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      • Schizzle

        Novak has averaged 5ppg over his career, is a turrible defender and barely played last year in the raps system.

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  28. Asher

    Awesome article… was hoping for something like this to wrap my head around our financial scenario. A quick suggestion: I’ve noticed you guys are using “cap” to refer to the soft cap and luxury tax territory (which isn’t a cap, but is just a number most/our organization doesn’t want to go over) interchangeably and it gets a little confusing. Maybe using the terms “soft cap” and “luxury tax” (or whatever you want, so long as it’s consistent) will make things clearer?

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  29. bcjay

    Seriously… Great piece thx. Will be rereading it for a week. Care to explain PER and WARP as carefully?

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  30. Taattzz

    We need Matt Barnes !! His salary is worth it no doubt or questions asked. Deng wants 10 plus a year which is overpaid. Someone like granger could help but he wants to go to a contender. Marvin Williams could also be a good addition at the right price. Starting SF while also giving Ross his minutes off the bench. What about taking a chance on Okafor!!!! For a team almost at the luxury tax line we need to get another big man and a big small forward who isn’t washed up. For this reason granger is probably a no go. Honestly wouldn’t mind Evan turner. He can put points on the board at times he averaged what 18 per on that shit sixers team… Maybe even a trade for Thad young??

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  31. Orange

    How about a guy like Chris Douglas-Roberts? He’s a great shooter, has underrated defense and really helped with the Bobcats’ success this year. He is a relentless worker and has worked his way up from the D-League to secure a roster spot. He’s a role player but will challenge Ross for the starting spot. He has all the qualities of a Raptor.

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  32. Jose

    What about Ed Davis or Sonny Wimms? Any chance for them to make a raptors comeback?

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  33. Will

    I would suggest Wesley Johnson (UFA from the Lakers made $900k last year), Francisco Garcia (UFA, made $1.2 mm last year) or Brandon Rush (UFA, made $4 mm last year). i think we could get any of these guys for $2 to $3 mm.

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  34. asifyouknow

    RANDOM THOUGHTS:
    No matter how you look at it the signing of a big SF is a key for this team to get to the next level.
    I’ve heard rumors about Aminu, he might be ok, he is 6’9″ 215b lb could use a few more pounds but is quick, good defender, can jump out the gym, the negative is that he can’t shoot.
    Can Ross take a seasons worth of pounding defending that spot ?
    Would Ross be better as a back-up at SG?
    I think that’s why his second half of the season was sub-par, the guy had no legs left thus the terrible shooting.
    Everything looks good so far for another playoff run if Kyle and DeMar can make the season injury free. Don’t know if it will be the third spot but none the less top eight in east.
    The Vasquez situation is not going to hurt Toronto unless Kyle gets hurt and you need a guy who can run a team.
    I feel the problem is about his role on this team and not as much about the money, look,14 to 15 for three is a steal for a guy who was not even 100 % most of the season, a guy who came into camp without a day of training, if any of you played sports you know what that means, a PG guards that can actually run a team.
    GV will come into camp the healthiest and in the best shape since this rookie year, I heard some folks say that he reached his ceiling, that is hard to do with a bad footl, but maybe they’re experts and know best.
    All I’m saying is someone is going to get a good piece to their puzzle. Toronto did well with Lou and I’m sure they will pick up another good PG.
    I see this team in the playoffs and hopefully it will become a habit like it is for my Spurs.

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  35. asifyouknow

    Latest on VASQUEZ:

    liderendeportes ‏@liderendeportes 16m View translation

    #NBA | @GreivisVasquez sobre su futuro: “De aquí al jueves pasará algo importante” | http://lider.cc/1oucwC9 pic.twitter.com/kMIsAD6uyP

    TRASLATION: ” From today to Thursday something important will happen”

    I have no clue if here or somewhere else they are tight lip about it…lol

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  36. thatpeterguy

    Deng would be nice but aside from the money issues, with the current Raptor squad you want 3 point shooting from that position to balance out the starting 5 which is why Ross fits in so well. You take Ross out and you have Lowry as your only starter that can consistently hit the 3 which is less than ideal.

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  37. Jensan

    Based on the Third Cap Sheet, signing of GV -6.5 , James Johnson- 2.5 and a lower luxury limit. We have one more roster spot available.

    IMO , I believe there is 4.4 million still available.

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