If you didn’t catch the game, consider yourself lucky. Not only was this a summer league game, the Raptors were outclassed from the tip-off. The commentators talked about everything other than the Raptors, and when they did, they concentrated on Caboclo being taken out of nowhere and how they call him the Brazilian Durant. Overall, I liked what I saw from Caboclo and Daniels, and think that Buycks looks less impressive than he did last summer; he can’t be getting lazy after a year on the Raptors.

Game Notes

Overall

  • Nogueira doesn’t seem to have the right instincts to be a center in the NBA; he looks like he’s just happy to be here and that things will work out (they might, cause he’s a seven footer, but he needs to give more effort). He’s going to need to at least to appear to work harder while on the floor. I was super disappointed.
  • Buycks needs to do better; yes he’s getting his, and his box looks full, but the guy didn’t distinguish himself against guys trying to make the league, and was badly outplayed (though they weren’t on each other for most of the game) by rookie Gary Harris, who might just be my favourite player in the draft.
  • Speaking of Harris, the guy was making big boy moves, taking good shots, and hitting them. I realize he’s playing against boys, but you want your guys running the floor with the others at summer league which is why I’m disappointed with Buycks.
  • Caboclo looks closer to contributing at a high level in the league than Buycks does; in fact, he didn’t look like he was four years away from anything and will be nice in limited minutes this year. He moves well, is athletic, his length can disrupt passing lanes, his shot isn’t terrible; we’ve seen much worse players in the league who people thought would have staying power (Joey Graham). In the short term, he just needs to put on some weight. In fact, his biggest barrier to success is being labelled the Brazilian Durant…how the hell do you shake that????
  • Daniels was intense, and worked hard the entire game. He looked like he was there to learn, improve, and make the Raptors as soon as possible. Exactly what summer league is about.
  • Reggie Miller is the worst thing that’s happened to broadcasting. Dude is so boring I watched the game on mute.

1st Quarter

  • Bruno late to contest a layup at the rim
  • Buycks with a lazy penetration and kick; turnover…didn’t run back the other way
  • Caboclo hits the corner three
  • Caboclo with a steal, then draws foul on the other end on the break
  • Zero pressure on the perimeter; Denver is popping threes and sticking them at will
  • Bebe does not have a nose for rebounding; that afro is distracting all of us
  • Buycks out of the timeout with a pull up three in motion; looked legit…hopefully not an anomaly
  • Buycks with another lazy layup; gets swatted at the rim after a wide open lane
  • Gary Harris looks nice; playing within himself, owning Buycks, making smart plays #jealous
  • Raptors perimeter defense is ridiculous; at least 6 threes have been put up without much of anything trying to affect them
  • Schurna shoes shoots like my sister; not as accurate
  • Denver finishes the quarter with a three at the buzzer; Caboclo rotated to contest, but was late

2nd Quarter

  • Kabongo already looking better than Buycks and he’s only dribbled the ball three times
  • I change my mind, he’s pretty bad, but doesn’t have the excuse Buycks does
  • #4 on the raptors got man handled off the rebound from the foul shot (he had position) #sigh
  • Bruno had an hour to get position on #15, but failed, and got dinged with the block
  • Raptors give up the rebound on the missed free throw again
  • Caboclo needs to gain 30lbs of muscle to be something in the league
  • Buycks with the open trey in the corner
  • Bruno needs to work on setting pics
  • Another three from Denver
  • Ujiri looks really bored; picking at his fingers (not even tapping away on his phone)
  • Will be surprised if Buycks gets signed this season by someone
  • Plain white t-shirts seem to be the gear of choice of NBA players sitting on the sidelines
  • Gin and tonic time; this game isn’t watchable sober 55-27 Denver
  • My cold, gluten free pizza is much more interesting than this game; I have no idea what is going
  • Thankfully this game is half-done

3rd Quarter

  • Caboclo making his early in the quarter offensive push
  • Buycks doesn’t box out his check (who shot a three), let him grab his own rebound inside the three point line
  • Raptors marking the Nuggets to put the ball on the ground and forcing bad shots
  • 8-2 Raptors run to start the quarter
  • Raptors making a bigger effort on the defensive boards; at least 3 guys collapse and go for the ball while Buycks flashes down the court
  • Caboclo making himself available and getting the ball in nice spots around the rim to make things happen (ally-oop layup on the semi-break)
  • Caboclo gets the ball in the corner, hesitates, puts the ball on the baseline and gets to the rack for the layup +1
  • Caboclo on display this quarter; handles are better than his jumper
  • Nogueira with a one-handed ally-oop layup as the quarter came to a close; that was bloody pretty

 4th Quarter

  • Nuggets open up the game after a couple back-to-back threes on weak Raptors possessions
  • This game has been over for most of the quarter; no one really doing anything of note on the Raptors side

  • rapierraptor

    If your sister shoots better than Shurna, then she needs to be playing in the WNBA. I don’t mind editing errors since people are taking time out of their own schedule to push out this content but damn.

    • Sam

      Thanks

    • Chewwy No Matthew

      I actually liked Shurna’s game at Northwestern and he did a great job in game 1.

      • rapierraptor

        Same! The guy just knows how to play.

  • Ian

    Caboclo chucked a lot of pull ups in this game. All in all, I don’t think the kid is ready. He needs a year to hit the weight room and to learn the game on this level – he is so raw, I honestly wonder what kind of coaching he’s received in Brazil. On defence, I saw him make a lot of sloppy mistakes (e.g. off balance, flailing attacks at ball handlers, using his hands instead of moving his feet during transition etc.), plus I’m kind of disappointed he hasn’t made an impact blocking shots. I know he isn’t a C, but with those arms you have to figure that that is something he should have a natural talent for; of course, its only been two summer league games. I think the proof in the pudding though, has been in his finishing – through two games he’s finished two alley oops with lay ups and hasn’t had an impact dunk yet – that tells me, along with his pubescent acne, that he hasn’t quite put the pieces together physically. He looks a little uncoordinated and weak.

    The awesome thing though is that those things are all curable, and a year spent in the weight room, training in practice, learning english and practicing his already obvious confidence and work ethic, should have him pick things up at a precipitous pace. I see a lot of negatives in his game, but I honestly couldn’t be more excited about the kid.

    As a side note. After watching Wiggins and Exum, I came away more impressed with Exum. Anybody share similar thoughts?

    • Sam

      I really like Exum’s game; it’s much more polished at this point.

    • rapierraptor

      I thought Exum in particular was awesome. I was surprised by how skilled he is as a passer. The instincts and ‘it’ factor are definitely there with him.

      • Jamshid

        He is a great talent and is ONLY 19. Jazz got one of their main pieces for a rebuild and can now just grow with this guy. I know Lakers were hoping he drops to 7 and were very disappointed that he did not.

    • GoingBig

      I don’t see that the worth of wingspan should be measured by blocked shots. For his position. it should be the effects of the opponents’ passing game – pick-offs, deflections, opponents’ strips, slowed/difficult opponent passing

      • Ian

        Valid points. I agree, that the value of his length is going to be measured in more ways than one – but that still doesn’t excuse shot blocking and rim protection as something within his grasp, and something he has a physical advantage in. Plus, I look at the Raptors roster and I look at our lack of rim protection and get excited about how Bruno could change the game at the rim for the raps a couple years down the line.

      • Kevin

        Saw some great denial D by Caboclo on Quincy Miller. He looked like Dhalsim from Street Fighter II when he does his stretchy wavy arm thing.

    • raptorstand

      Its so weird . You mention the negatives , and all I see are positives. The negatives can be solved by simple work. The positives is the athletic basketball instincts that are already present. I think it is going to be a blast to watch this kid improve game by game. I would like to see some clear outs for the kid at least 4-5 times a game in the SL. See what he can do , the times he has taken it to his man has been impressive. The kid is good, no denying that.

  • http://www.probballreport.com/ Stephen Brotherston

    Don’t read too much into what you are seeing from Nogueira. He is coming off a calf injury and hasn’t been able to do much for a while. He was questionable for SL action & based on how he is playing, he probably shouldn’t have bothered

    • Sam

      That explains it

      • CJT

        AND, I thought he looked alright in game one with a few nice finishes around the rim. I didn’t see last nights game though.

    • Jamshid

      That is true … It is ONLY 2 games and he could be hurt. We need him this season to play big. There will be tons of minute for him if he show that he can stay on the floor and not be a liability.

    • Niagara_dude

      I felt that all three players Nogueira/Calbolo and Daniels showed enough to keep around even as high end practice players.Time to remove either Hayes or Fields to improve our bench, or your starters will be forced into playing high mins like last year.

  • Jamshid

    Are we keeping Daniels this season around or are we shipping him to Europe ? As of now, he seems like to be worth investing some time on and much readier than the other rookies that we have.

  • GameBreaker

    “Bruno does not have a nose for rebounding; that afro is distracting all of us”…Bruno doesn’t have the afro, by the way. That would be the other Brazilian. Cheers.

    • Sam

      Good catch; meant Bebe.

  • Niagara_dude

    After seeing a couple of summer league games I do believe that keeping all three Caboclo/Daniels and Nogueira is good for the Raptors moving forward.They all have athletic ability that is worth keeping around even for practice purposes, the two guys that will bring this team down will be both Hayes & Fields about 12- 13mill in wasted salary that offer very little to improve your team.The east will not have any powerhouses but it will be more balanced/competitive.I would have liked to have seen the Raptors sign either Paul Pierce or Vince Carter, which would give the Raptors a vet who can score off the bench.I ask you all how much has the roster improved from last season? and please do not answer with our guys getting better because the good teams add talent.

    • GoingBig

      The biggest increase will be in the bench strength – Lou Williams, James Johnson
      – with GV/Lou/PatPat this can be a bench that can out-score the others’ bench – this will force the opponents to bring out their starters too soon
      – strengthens the starters because Casey will have more options
      – also strengthens the starters because there will more confidence to rest the starters
      – bench strength is tougher to measure than individual stats but it affects the final results

      Other increases
      – TRoss was good enough to get us through the regular season with 3s + D versus the faster threats. The pressure is on. Playoffs were a dull THUD but he did have a fantastic pressure play in game 7. His achilles heel was disappearing when under pressure. He now has more experience with pressure.
      – JV will get better
      – Some increase in DeRozan’s dribbling and skills for a better game.

      • Jamshid

        You have all the rights to be concerned about this position ( Back up C). At the end of last season, SF and back up C were the main area that majority of the fans wanted to see improvements. As of today, we have the same players ( Big Val, Amir, Hayes, Patterson) who we had last year … We Only added Bebe and one wonders if Bebe can make any contribution this year.

        • CJT

          why do you wonder if he can contribute? He is 7 feet tall has a 7’7″ wingspan and has a strong knack for blocking shots. That sounds like it might translate to contributing to the team for some minutes. After watching his first SL game (couldn’t watch 2nd) he also had very nice agility and effort and was able to finish well. I guess we’ll see.

      • Niagara_dude

        The bench is the same just added Williams for Salmons and we now have no spread the floor type player in Novak.You are bang on that we need better size at the center position if Jonas gets injured we are done.There is no quality back-up (Chuck Hayes at 6’6 is not a center)

        • GoingBig

          Are we talking the starters? – spread the floor guy was TRoss
          For the bench – Novak – so very limited usage

          We have spread-the-floor guys :
          Williams who is not the dark vacuum of Salmons – definitely an upgrade
          http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=101150

          and there is the mid-range PatPat and GV

          • Niagara_dude

            You need back-up center just to cover JV for game to game foul trouble and injuries.You do not have a legit size center on this roster other JV.

      • Niagara_dude

        Andre Blatche would have improved the center position, if you remember the playoffs last year not one person on our roster could handle his size and quickness.If this team wants to make playoffs again and go past the first round you need to add talent.Remember your young guys may be getting better from year to year and so are other teams.Other teams with good young core players are not just sitting around, only way to take steps forward is to add vet proven players and blend them in with your current roster.We have failed in this area (just Lou Williams) who has knee issues, look at Washington (added Paul Pierce) look at Chicago (added Gasol).

        • Wes mantooth

          Blatche has more then knee issues. He has motivation issues. Massive talent no heart. That’s why he can’t get jobs.
          He doesn’t compliment our make up in any way. Gives up much more then he gives.
          Uriji saw the same games u saw. I think he knows what he’s doing far more then you do.
          Chemistry and continuity is priceless

        • CJT

          Williams had an ACL injury, as in single not knee issues. It generally takes 12 months to fully recover from ACL surgery so lets wait and see before we make statements of ignorance.

    • Jamshid

      We added some young talents ( Bebe, Bruno,Daniels) who are not ready to contribute this season.
      The ONLY improvement is Williams and Johnson ! There are ton more movement in the East. Heat, NY will be active the next week or so and as you said, we will have many more balanced team this year. Given that we were so lucky with our injuries last year and the rest of the east was not, I expect a tougher season for us. Our ONLY blessing is that we are in Atlantic with Boston and Philly still in the tank mode :) As far Pierce goes, that would have been an amazing addition. I can believe how cheap the wizards got him for …

    • LuckyMystery

      good teams also develop their own players into stars. Wink wink Derozan. If Jonas shows an improvement to his game alone, that will improve the team. Jonas is further along in his development than most centers are at the same time in their careers. A good GM realizes when all his core pieces are ready and then they add pieces.

      • Mexiballer

        Paul Pierce. That would be blasphemy. F#%k Paul Pierce.

        • LuckyMystery

          i’m pretty sure I never mention pierce’s name once

          • Mexiballer

            Ooops. sorry. That was Niagra dude who thought we should sign Pierce.

    • LuckyMystery

      Let’s assume JV gets 30 minutes a game.(low side of the assumption) That leaves 18 minutes. Let’s say he gets into early foul trouble. Amir will move to the 5 and PP will play the 4. The same will happen at other times in the game as well foul trouble or not. So let’s assume That Amir and PP play together for 5 to 7 of those 18. That leaves 11 to 13. If they want to go small they could put Any combination, of Lowry, Dero, Ross, Williams Vaz and Johnson between the 1 and 3 with any of Hansbrough, Hayes, or PP playing the 5. Bebe as well could get anywhere between 5 and 10 minutes a game.

      Sure a big may not be a bad idea, but I would rather another shooter to help space the floor. Another piece that can be interchanged if someone is hurt or in foul trouble.

      • Niagara_dude

        Either way I would happy more depth at center or another 3pt shooter to spread the floor.

      • Vin Domenico

        And if JV gets injured?

        • LuckyMystery

          Then Amir will be the starting 5 to fill in. What if Demar gets hurt? Let the rest of the off season happen before we talk about lack of depth. Also if bebe is there, he will get minutes. They aren’t gonna keep the kid strapped to the bench.

  • lewro

    Reggie miller comment gets a big uptick! Please spare us!

  • Nathan

    Commentators ignoring whole game. I can’t believe im saying this, but i feel bad for Bryan Colangelo. A few times it was mentioned how Masai ‘totally revamped’ the team last year and got them to 48 wins. BC made mistakes, but the five mistakes he didn’t make are our starting five that won those 48 games (give or take a few wins pre-rudy). This team will fully be Masai’s only when someone he brings in cracks our starting 5. dont get me wrong, love Masai, just putting that out there.

    • GoingBig

      Getting rid of Bargnani was Masai’s 1st essential move because Bargs crippled the team – stunting JV’s growth, dragging this team down, and destroying all winning culture. I have little problem with the initial draft choice(it’s a craps-shoot) but failure to get rid of him is a crippling failure. Culture fail was BC’s legacy.

      Masai pushed for a culture change. The first stamp was getting rid of Bargs. 2nd was the PsychoT hiring.
      There would be no Lowry renewal without it. Masai started it and the players finalized it.

      Don’t expect NBA commentators to have any depth to the non top-8 teams. They go only as deep as the latest headline.
      We Raptors hoopheads have begun to weigh out the BC years – appreciating this successes but there will always be a negative grade.

      • Steverino

        Yes, but if you have any kind of memory at all, you know that BC was trying to move Bargnani and was speaking critically of him the season before. When he couldn’t pull a deal, they decided to play out that season and he’d trade him in the offseason. Then he was replaced. It’s not like he didn’t move bad contracts before that and get decent stuff in return so I’m pretty sure he would have been able to move Bargnani.

    • Heyjoe

      Rudy Gay was one of BC’s starting five, I”m not seeing the logic in what you are saying here.

    • WhiteVegas

      BC’s starting five was Lowry, Derozan, Gay, Bargs, JV. That starting 5 was a disaster. BC couldn’t see that.

    • IceManLikeGervin

      BC fucked up the Raptors by trying to be a Euro team & building around Bargnani not to mention he mislead people about the Bosh resigning timeline and created an atmosphere of media hate towards CB in the TDot…….BC is like a turd that won’t flush- full of spins……is this the year Bargnani steps up?

    • sleepz

      Bingo. Been saying this for quite some time now but Masai should be judged on the players and talent he acquires. BC was a terrible GM in his last 5 years in Toronto but the ‘core’ of the team is his.

    • Shaun

      BC does not get enough recognitiln for exactly what you mentioned. Great observation. Masai has only been building around a seriously solid BC foundation

      • Vin Domenico

        Screw BC

  • http://www.razmatazmag.com kayell

    You find Reggie Miller boring!? I find he has alot of energy and speaks with so much excitement, just in a excruciatingly, painful, not funny kind of way. Painful is a more suitable word to use than boring.

    I didn’t get to see this game, but I remember on Friday Bebe was hustling, protecting the rim, just really going at – he had good hands and quick feet. Was this mediocrity you talk about only against Denver? Or Friday too, and I am off my bonkers?

    • IceManLikeGervin

      Reggie Miller sounds like a women on broadcasts……small market this, small market that……his voice is irritating…

  • Kreuzbälle

    Where’s the box score?

  • Chewwy No Matthew

    I, as I am sure all of you are, am sick of the “Brazilian Kevin Durant” name. If you go on NBA TV and watch the highlights of this game, you will hear the announcer call Bruno that right away. It’s pathetic and unprofessional as you constantly hear Reggie Miller ( the owner of zero championship rings) mock the kid. All you hear is constant unrelated jibberish and then the monicker comes out of Reggie’s mouth every time. For the record, it isn’t fair to the kid who clearly is uncomfortable with the name. Whoever came up with the name to begin with is a moron. This easily could have been avoided if somebody said his style of play with his length is similar to the style of Kevin Durant. Get ready folks, for the ignorant media to constantly refer to this moniker, no matter how well the kid does.

    • Wes mantooth

      He wasn’t mocking. In game 1 he gave him props comparing him to Greek freak
      Toronto fans are way too sensitive.

      • Chewwy No Matthew

        You might want to listen better. Reggie is clearly mocking him with that nickname everytime. Not sensitive, we just want proper game announcers who don’t always act like fools.

    • Vin Domenico

      Either way the Brazilian kevin durant is looking good out there cant wait to see more

  • Wes mantooth

    Bruno looks great! The KD thing is hurting him cause he seems to be trying to emulate him with the way he shoots threes. Either way I’m excited about this guy and Daniels. Both look like they can contribute.
    Bebe seems a little lost for sure
    My main issue with tho summer league squad is how it’s being mismanaged. Bykes should not be out there. Not only Is he just trying to get his, he’s hurting the other players ! He can’t run an offense so the guys we’re really looking at aren’t getting looks. We know what he is , he’s not getting signed why are we wasting one on him. I’d much rather see kabongo or any other guard that wants I show they can run a team. Bykes is auditioning do other teams out there it annoying!!

    • mountio

      bang on. I didnt watch the first game, but all I could think watching this was “pass the damn ball, Bikes” (or get him off the court). Hes got gonna make the squad and is doing nothing but hurt the development of the rest of the team

      • CJT

        Not sure development is really the point of Summer League. There are very few passes happening as guys are auditioning for teams trying to show off skills. I would prefer that a point guard show skills that are going to get him playing time on the team vs. trying to show he can take it to the rim and get blocked or turn it over. But you can see the same thing happening on most teams.

        • mountio

          Well … im pretty sure the point of the summer league is not to watch a PG who has little future with the team hog the ball and not give other guys opportunities. Im not expecting to see Spurs-esque ball movement out there … but Id settle for greater than 1 pass per possession …

          • CJT

            ya, I was agreeing with you. It would be nice to see a pg use the skills that are going to actually help his team win etc.

            • mountio

              yup – agreed

    • moderate_observer

      Buycks is trying to do too much its only making him look bad and makes it harder to get a new contract. Dont know how much development can happen in summer league… not enough games. It looks like its more of an audition for some players and a chance to get a look at the rookies in real game situations. The only thing that these guys seem to be able to prove is that they deserved being picked in the draft.

  • Wes mantooth

    Why the Reggie hate. All he did game 1 was talk raps.
    Love Reggie.
    Your analysis wasn’t anymore interesting then his. Jus sayin

  • Niagara_dude

    People we are all missing the point here, our management talks about players (free agents) wanting to come here but I have not seen anything that shows this.Our bench looks not better or stronger then last year which means too many minutes for our starters.All I here is players getting better, that is garbage.We will only get better with improved depth which we have not achieved over last year.

    • GoingBig

      When it comes to free agents wanting to come here, we had our first success with retaining Kyle Lowry. Epic change for the franchise. For even the mismatch of Blatche, he came knocking on our door. Other than that, there’s no money – this year. And given $12MM (Hayes/Fields expiring this year) the Raptors will be on people’s list. And we need a solid base with a future and we have it. And how many of last year’s dead certains crashed and that the Raptors passed on the highway to 3rd in the East last year.

      Bench? We’ve had this discussion and disagreed. The bench last year went from shambolic to valued. After dropping Salmons and adding Williams & Johnson, it is improved.

      This year will not be big jump from the previous, so lay out what should have happened with the resources available? Losing Free Agent Kyle Lowry would be your first step & after that?

    • LuckyMystery

      How do you seriously not see the improvement. Lou williams and johnson are improvements over salmons and Novak. How is extra bench production not an improvement. Also how do you keep writing off the development of Val and Ross. Centers especially take time to develop into a finished product. It’s like you think these guys are sitting around hoping their skills improve.

      • Niagara_dude

        Have you seen what Washington have done?

        • LuckyMystery

          Yeah they replaced a 29 year old that had a great season with a 36 year old whose body is 1 year older. Please explain why you think they improved so much. They didn’t want Pierce until Ariza left, that should tell you something.

          • Niagara_dude

            You get better as a young team by adding solid vet type players who can still contribute.Check out the Washington roster.Our lack of center depth will reaily hurt this year just like it did in the playoffs last year.Tell me which player represents a legit backup center on our roster?

            • LuckyMystery

              Are you serious? I did a full breakdown for you already. The offseason isn’t done yet relax. Amir, patterson, bebe, hayes and Hansbrough will all see time at 5.

              What about washingtons roster are you so amazed about

  • IceManLikeGervin

    Bruno shouldn’t see the court this season, Bruno is at least 2 years away from being a fringe rotation player……

  • Norm DePlume

    It’s tragic that the Raps lost De Colo but held onto Buycks.