Your second question is nonsense and off topic.
What about something like this (**Keep in mind JV and Fields are used only to match DD's 2013-14 salary in trade machine**):
Toronto: Gasol, Barea/Ridnour, Wolves 1st rd pick
Wolves: DeRozan, 2014 2nd rd from Raps
Toronto: Gasol, Williams, Wolves 1st rd pick
Wolves: DeRozan, 2014 2nd rd from Raps
Depending on first or second trade scenario above, Raps then have mini-MLE to get PG (Calderon pair with Pau?) or wing (Wright or Dunleavy?).
I'm sure everyone will say: "Lakers never trading Gasol for Bargnani!" And you are right. The assumption here is Dwight Howard resigns and they are looking to cut as much salary as possible heading in to new luxury tax. Saving $8M in this trade as LA does (don't forget Bargs 5% trade kicker) means the Lakers save $34-$38M in luxury tax next year assuming Howard resigns for max money.
This is thinking out loud... please no cyber murder.
It isnt nonsense because all your comments are pointing to DeMar being the major problem with the Raptors, which is ridiculous. Saying that is selling DeMar incredibly short he had a pretty dam good year, He takes long 2s so what? more often than not (this year) hes been hitting them night in night out Garnett and Rip take that shot as a go to weapon and its where DeMar practiced because he knows he cant hit the 3. If DeMar is nailing that shot why complain about it?
His percentage would be a lot better if the refs respected the Raptors to give him the calls when its a foul, what Fields does DeMar can learn any player can emulate what Fields brings scoring however you can't, not to mention Fields is a dreaful ft shooter what you are talking about is a dream situation that Fields starts is healthy and plays like his rookie season things dont work out like that....DeMar is a talented guy eager to learn picks up a lot of the scoring slack when the Raptors seemingly cant buy a basket to save their live (you have seen this with Gay)
Saying Fields over DeMar based on what ifs what if is just incredibly silly... and the last thing Raps want is Pussy Gasoft.
Matt52, CalgaryRapsFan & BC seem to think that he is. Which goes against all logic at the moment. I refuse to drink the kool-aid!!
LF needs to show improvement before i even consider him as the starting SG for next season. You guys HOPE all you want....I prefer to see results first.
DeMar is not the problem. DeMar is the least talented of two players with similar offensive games and possessing the most trade value of three other players.
Out of curiosity, how old are you?
And also, you guys must be pretty stupid if you think we're comparing Landry and demar here. We're talking about who FITS, this has nothing to do with talent, but more of skillet suited for the position. Lakers are a great example, No one compliments each other well on that team. Nash had to become a spot up shooter instead of a passer
I'm one of those people who say "if you can prove me wrong, go ahead", but this is my current attitude towards Ross. Just haven't been a fan quite frankly. I will say though, he's had some great games (probably like 2) and is a fun player to watch in the open court.
I think Ross and Gay fit, IF the coach uses them properly. Having Gay and Derozan run iso's half the time is not to their success.
- Low Post
- Pick and Roll
- Low post
- Off-ball screens
- Pick and Roll
In my honest opinion, if the coach would have one - Demar/Rudy - on the low block, possibly Amir up at the top of the key, JV on the other block, than the other - Demar/Rudy - would sit in the corner, with Lowry waiting up top as the safety anchor. Now, that is obviously if Demar develops his corner 3, and Rudy starts to gain his stroke back, but I personally think that would be effective. We've seen some splints of it, and it definitely works pretty well.
Even have Rudy run the offense at times, allow Demar to run off the screen, and if it doesn't go, reset, or wait for Demar to establish in the post. Once Demar gets it, have Rudy run off of him. Maybe run a wing pick and roll between Gay/Derozan?
Now, these are some suggestions, who knows, whether or not these actually work. I personally think putting Demar and Gay in the low post more often than not is where you will get the best out of both.
BUT, Demar/Rudy will not fit as long as Casey is the coach.
We're talking about Landry Fields AS IS....your talking about Landry Fields in best case scenario (hope filled homers). Landry Fields AS IS means we'll be playing 4 on 5 offensively with him out on the floor. If you think that compliments anyone your drinking wayy too much kool-aid.
The guy needs time to get back to form (if he ever does). What i'm saying is let's wait and see before we trade away Demar. You thinking LF OR TROss is ready to climb into the starter's role is pretty silly IMO. I do hope your right and we can improve our team, BUT right now LF does NOTHING to improve our team AS IS. Your basically making a whole lot of assumptions......do you know someone with a similar injury?? Are you a doctor?
Part of the problem with the makeup of the current starting lineup is that there are too many scorers who all need the ball to be successful individually. Lowry isn't even able to play his style of game because he's too busy deferring to Gay & DeRozan, while also trying to feed the ball to Valanciunas, Johnson and DeRozan, to help make each of them successful. Having 2 high-volume, inefficient scorers in the same lineup just won't work, especially when neither of them is the PG who also needs to facilitate for the other 2 players; there aren't enough balls to go around.
Fields will provide balance to the lineup, by reducing the demand for the ball and doing the stuff he already is good at (and much better already than DeRozan):
- perimeter defense
- off-ball play on offense
- facilitating ball movement on offense
- rebounding at both ends
Fields will be the #5 scorer on the starting lineup (especially if DeRozan is traded for a more offensive-minded starting PF), so your point about his shot needing to improve and become more consistent isn't even that important. Even so, his shot has clearly improved over the past month or so as is, so I'm confident that an offseason and training camp will only further help him improve his mechanics.
Fields won't be asked to replace DeRozan's scoring, even though he'll be replacing DeRozan as the starting SG! He'll be asked to do what Anthony Parker did for the Raptors during their playoff years with Bosh. He's a 'glue guy' being asked to provide defense and intangibles, similar to Tony Allen in Memphis, MWP in LA, etc...
What a mess. Personally, I would keep Demar. Real wing players are becoming more rare. BUT what other real trade options do they have if they want to move Bargs for more than some one else's garbage? Personally, I move Bargnani for anything. Bite the bullet and move on. They already traded ED for a major cap hit and no playoffs. Moving Demar just to rid the team of Bargs would have a big impact on the locker room.
Do you realize that Landry Fields will be left open to shoot (teams always play off of the worst shooter)?? EVERYONE knows about his injury and shooting woes. They will game plan to crowd others and leave him open. How is that not important?
Do you really think its not important that he at least regains his ROOKIE form?? Shouldn't we wait and see before trading away our better players? First of all i have no faith that BC even knows how to make this team better. Who's to say he won't fuck this up?
Secondly - Please DO NOT compare Fields to Tony Allen OR Sefolosha or even MWP. Fields has NEVER been a lock down defender. To say this would be drinking kool-aid. He's indeed better than Ross and Demar but he is in NO WAY comparable to Tony Allen or the other 2. Have you seen him "shut down" anyone this year? I don't recall him shutting anyone down.
Someone has got a kool-aid obsession
I said that Fields is "a 'glue-guy' being asked to provide defense and intangibles, similar to Tony Allen in Memphis, MWP in LA, etc..." and I stand by that. I never said he was their equal, only that his role would be the same. For the record, he had some great games this year shutting down LBJ, Kobe and 'Melo. He's definitely an above average wing defender who could very easily become one of the league's best lockdown perimeter defenders, given consistent playing time - and a huge improvement over DeRozan, as you confirmed.
The whole point of swapping DeRozan for Fields and Johnson for a more offensive-minded PF, is to create better balance and offensive flow for the starting unit. Sometimes the best "unit" isn't necessarily the 5 most talented players, because the group has to have a variety of roles and chemistry to be successful; I just believe that the current starting unit is too redundant in certain areas and lacking in others, which these 2 lineup changes would help resolve.
Personally, I like the guy. I enjoyed his PS Vita commercials. But I think we should keep it real. I hope he comes back and makes me eat my words. I hope you guys are all right and he is the second coming of Anthony Parker. Right now i'm just a show and prove type of guy. I dont believe in blind faith moves and what ifs.