Jose Calderon Talks About Being Almost Traded

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Fri Jul 16th, 2010, 04:14 PM
OzRapFan

I think Calderon is a great guy, but if that trade went down for Chandler and Diaw, I wouldn't be missing him that much.
Fri Jul 16th, 2010, 04:15 PM
Marz

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Raptor4Ever wrote:

I don't understand why BC is trying to trade Jose and NOT Jack ??

The reason is actually off the court. Jack is closer with Amir, Weems, and DeRozan off the court than Jose. I'm not advocating a Jose trade. I've always said we either get rid of Hedo or Jose, but not both. But Colangelo wants to keep team chemistry moving in the locker room while still improving the roster. And given Jose's contract...
Fri Jul 16th, 2010, 04:17 PM
Ambidextrious

Does anyone remember how Jose faired when he was a full time starter in 08-09? He was very accident prone. He always gets absolutely destroyed by defenders. I'd be quite happy just to have Jarret and a backup for him next season. I cant really see jose changing his defensive mindset next season.
Fri Jul 16th, 2010, 04:26 PM
Raptor4Ever

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tbihis wrote:

i think with the Raptors core right now, both of them in the roster will probably work.

Well, Now the problem is not just Jose and Jack. We have Barbosa added to the mix as well.

I know some fans here think he can be used as a SG but reading Sun's blogs and ... the reason behind his trade is that he CAN NOT play the SG , he simply does not have the size.

So with the latest trade, we have almost 27 million in PG position in our team while having holes in SF and Center and ...
Fri Jul 16th, 2010, 04:26 PM
Raptor4Ever

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Marz wrote:

The reason is actually off the court. Jack is closer with Amir, Weems, and DeRozan off the court than Jose. I'm not advocating a Jose trade.

I agree. This is the only reason that makes little sense.
Fri Jul 16th, 2010, 06:25 PM
dn66

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tbihis wrote:

i think with the Raptors core right now, both of them in the roster will probably work. We dont need a scoring point, we have potential big time scorers in Weems, Derozan and Bargs. I say big time because these three are very offensive minded, they can create their own shots and find other ways to score. Unlike with Bosh before, the offense was very stagnant, everybody's just watching him work. The only problem is we have 2 high quality backup PGs and both are not starter material. They way Triano's been shuffling the 2 is good enough. The other issue would be momentum, since you have 2 good PGs, you will have to split the minutes evenly, so if one is on a tear, he will have to stop for the other one to step in.

specially with both "open" to the idea of both of them sharing minutes then let them. i think with kleiza and maybe a defensive minded center, they could get away from the defensive lapses of Jose and Jack. Mind you we never had this issue when Garbajosa and Parker were playing together, coz both had good defense instincts and were able to cover Jose's lapses.

But, DD is not Parker and the league is now full of quick PG.
Not sure if Barbosa can help, if Jose/Jack are abused by someone too much.
Our biggest problem will be the fact that our bigs (Bargs/Amir) are soft.
When someone like Dorsey patrols the paint, the opposing guards
tend to avoid venturing in...
Fri Jul 16th, 2010, 06:29 PM
Hassan

Jose is one of my favorite raptors and if he leaves he will be greatly missed i think we can afford to have jose on this team now due to departure of Hedo
Fri Jul 16th, 2010, 07:03 PM
grindhouse

Quote:

Raptor4Ever wrote:

I don't understand why BC is trying to trade Jose and NOT Jack ??

chemistry, right now jack is at the summer league games support the younglings. calderon is not in the country. jack has those guys in the gym steady since the seasom ended, thats reason enough to keep him.
Fri Jul 16th, 2010, 10:13 PM
JYFelony

Total pro. Not that I ever want to see any of our guys in this situation, but if I had to see a guy in it, it would be Calderon simply because he's not going to be a dick about it and call Colangelo out for it (and reduce his potential value). You gotta love the guy's spirit and composure during a testing period.
Fri Jul 16th, 2010, 11:00 PM
Arenick

I feel for the guy. Very professional and actually likes Toronto. It's just unfortunate his defence is at a varsity high school level.
Sat Jul 17th, 2010, 01:37 AM
Mess

He's a class act all the way. I'm going to miss him if he ends up being traded. And you can't knock him for being in Spain during the offseason. It's cool that Jack is hanging out and in the gym with the young players but being buddies isn't the first reason to pick one over the other.
Sat Jul 17th, 2010, 03:41 PM
Raptor4Ever

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Mess wrote:

It's cool that Jack is hanging out and in the gym with the young players but being buddies isn't the first reason to pick one over the other.

Nicely Said.

I wonder how many of these guys will be buddy buddy, when team is 2-17 and fans are booing them every single night !!

Chemistry is very important but Talent and the needs of the team are also important as well.
Sat Jul 17th, 2010, 06:49 PM
vinnie_paz

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deafheaven wrote:

Jose is a classy guy. Toronto fans seem determined to run him out of town and blame him for his defensive short comings when he played on a team full of defensive short comings. IMO he is a better point guard than Jack and also a better option that the turnover prone JJ to run a very young and inexperienced team.

how is jarrett jack's 2.0 turnovers per game = turn over prone ??
Sun Jul 18th, 2010, 02:45 AM
Hassan

jose calderon will be missed in toronto and when he leaves for another city we should all give him a standing ovation when his name is introduced
Sun Jul 18th, 2010, 08:06 AM
Macayita

:mad:

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TRX wrote:

Is it just me or is the English too good to be Calderon's writing? lol

Anyway, this is nothing new. He's never said a bad word about the organization, never wanted out. I would be surprised if he said anything but this.
Sun Jul 18th, 2010, 08:06 AM
Macayita

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Quote:

TRX wrote:

Is it just me or is the English too good to be Calderon's writing? lol:mad:

Anyway, this is nothing new. He's never said a bad word about the organization, never wanted out. I would be surprised if he said anything but this.
Sun Jul 18th, 2010, 11:56 AM
schuyler0

I think jose's creative passing still fits in well with the offense as long as we get some better defense plus i love the alley opps
Sun Jul 18th, 2010, 08:33 PM
Hassan

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Arenick wrote:

I feel for the guy. Very professional and actually likes Toronto. It's just unfortunate his defence is at a varsity high school level.

totally agree man if we can keep jose i want to keep himi just have a ton of respect for the guy
Mon Jul 19th, 2010, 09:46 AM
Liston

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ibzilla wrote:

With Shaun Livingston already signed BC might as well keep calderon. There will be no backup PG if he's traded unless you believe in Marcus banks

Bobby Brown is a possibility.
Mon Jul 19th, 2010, 09:58 AM
Liston

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Buddahfan wrote:

Calderon is a better up tempo point guard then Jack.

The proof of this is simple

Calderon has a career offensive rating of 120

Jack who played a number of years with the up tempo Pacers has a career offense rating of only 109.

That difference is huge. Calderon is a far superior up tempo point guard than Jack.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../jackja01.html

Jack only played 1 year in Indiana. Portland wasn't quite as up tempo in his early days there.

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