Raptors Ranked Dead Last In Eastern Conference Standings

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Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 01:56 PM
peanutplaza

[QUOTE=C Boy; Colangelo is not finished yet IMO.

Im with bc boy on this one, I expect at least one good mid-season trade. the U.s ecomony sucks and 4sure attendance will be down for a few hurting thfranchise and are gonna have to unload$$$$$
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 01:56 PM
matt

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photoman wrote:

The Jays were predicted to lose 100 games this season and finish near the bottom with Baltimore.
Definitely no reason to overreact, especially to ESPN's drivel.

Ok I hate to be the partybreaker here but all of you guys are overrating this team TOO much. Did you forget where they had the Raptors last season?? ninth in the standings with a 39-43 record, that pretty much exactly what we had the previous season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...-EastStandings

I'm don't think the Raptors will be as bad as they have us on their standings this season, but lets not overate this team.

What Im saying is lets not expect too much from this team.
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 02:07 PM
Apollo

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benitonicoya wrote:

New York Knicks 8th seed?? why? Because of Amare and Felton...give me a break!!
Ahh... this is because the biased American media wishing New York actually had a good team.

The top 6 teams in the ranking make sense.
The only other thing that makes sense is that there will be very few
wins of difference between 7th and 15th spot;

In my opinion the bottom 4 are Nets, Raptors , Knicks and Cavs;
and I think the Raps will better than all these teams, so that' d make them the 11th seed;

They also added Azubuike, Turiaf and Anthony Randolph... They're better than the Raptors and have a far better coach. I think 8th seed is a legit prediction for them.
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 02:16 PM
Buddahfan

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Apollo wrote:

They also added Azubuike, Turiaf and Anthony Randolph... They're better than the Raptors and have a far better coach. I think 8th seed is a legit prediction for them.

Yea but the also re-added Isaiah Thomas.
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 02:19 PM
Apollo

As a consultant. He'll probably offer prospect advice/analysis, something he's always been very good as doing. His problems stemmed around managing money, not evaluating young talent.
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 02:19 PM
Buddahfan

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Apollo wrote:

They also added Azubuike, Turiaf and Anthony Randolph... They're better than the Raptors [COLOR="rgb(0, 0, 0)"]and have a far better coach.[/COLOR] I think 8th seed is a legit prediction for them.

Have a far better coach?

Triano was 40-42 in his first season as an NBA coach

D'Antoni baloney was 35 - 76 in his first two seasons. He was lucky that his first season was a short one:):)

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...antomi01c.html
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 02:22 PM
Apollo

Triano has a GM making moves to try and win games. D'Antoni had a GM trying to cut cap with no concern about winning games. Why don't you be fair and compare their records when both had a GM who was trying to win games? Better yet, why don't you compare their records when they have the same boss?
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 02:38 PM
malefax

Yeah, i look at the lineups of the Knicks, Pacers, Nets, Cavs, and Wizards, and I do not see anything very impressive.

I guess the thing with the Raptors is that there are a lot of question marks. Can Amir be a legit starter? Will DeRozan have improved his game significantly? Is Weems a legit 20+minute a game player? Can Bargs step up? Is the 3 going to be an open bleeding sore? Will Calderon still be here, and if he is will he be able to play to his full abilities?

I am optimistic about the answers to all those questions, and if everything goes as it could we could be the 8th or 9th team in the conference. But I can understand people who don't follow the team not really getting what's up with it.
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 02:54 PM
RapthoseLeafs

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madeupid25 wrote:

It's a toss up but I think the Raptors will compete for worst team in the conference. Does anyone know where Arsenalist's Colangelo's 10 Biggest Mistakes article went? I read it this morning and it wasnt on the site when I got to work.

http://raptorsrepublic.com/2010/04/2...gelo-mistakes/
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 03:18 PM
Buddahfan

Quote:

Apollo wrote:

Triano has a GM making moves to try and win games. D'Antoni had a GM trying to cut cap with no concern about winning games. Why don't you be fair and compare their records when both had a GM who was trying to win games? Better yet, why don't you compare their records when they have the same boss?

Heck. Why not blame it George Bush, even if he wasn't POTUS at the time.:):)
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 03:21 PM
Buddahfan

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malefax wrote:

Yeah, i look at the lineups of the Knicks, Pacers, Nets, Cavs, and Wizards, and I do not see anything very impressive.

I guess the thing with the Raptors is that there are a lot of question marks. Can Amir be a legit starter? Will DeRozan have improved his game significantly? Is Weems a legit 20+minute a game player? Can Bargs step up? Is the 3 going to be an open bleeding sore? Will Calderon still be here, and if he is will he be able to play to his full abilities?

I am optimistic about the answers to all those questions, and if everything goes as it could we could be the 8th or 9th team in the conference. But I can understand people who don't follow the team not really getting what's up with it.

I certainly post a lot about Amir:):) and his stats:):)

but DeRozan is super talent and within 2-3 years from now he will be considered one of the biggest steals in the June 2009 draft:D:D
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 03:23 PM
LBF

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madeupid25 wrote:

It's a toss up but I think the Raptors will compete for worst team in the conference. Does anyone know where Arsenalist's Colangelo's 10 Biggest Mistakes article went? I read it this morning and it wasnt on the site when I got to work.

i think that articles old. try the archives or something.

can you compete for the worst in the league?
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 03:47 PM
Dr Hannibal Lecter

Exactly....

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matt wrote:

Ok I hate to be the partybreaker here but all of you guys are overrating this team TOO much. Did you forget where they had the Raptors last season?? ninth in the standings with a 39-43 record, that pretty much exactly what we had the previous season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...-EastStandings

I'm don't think the Raptors will be as bad as they have us on their standings this season, but lets not overate this team.

What Im saying is lets not expect too much from this team.

I agree with u...raptors might not finish last,but common ppl use ure common sense this team has no talent...it's garbage compare to top teams..
When they say Sunny Weems and Amir are great talent...I just shake my head,only in T.O...
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 03:59 PM
blaze89

as i been saying even before the season ended, we are gonna be horrible this year. fun to watch at times, but still horrible. now im not for tanking as that just destroys the intergrity of the game but im looking more forward to the draft then predicting how many wins were gonna have or what place were gonna end up cuz its gonna be near the basement of the league regardless
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 04:20 PM
Buddahfan

I swear ESPN has become the Bible for way too many sports fans.
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 04:28 PM
ebrian

Look, I don't know how other teams will fare this year, but 27 wins seems like a lot for these Raptors. Given the current makeup of the team, I would say 30 wins would be as if we came from nowhere and every player overachieved. 27 wins is kind.

I think we'll be lucky to win 20-25 games this season.
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 04:29 PM
Arsenalist

Wizards and John Wall at #9? They're kinda overrating Hinrich and Thornton, no?
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 04:34 PM
Buddahfan

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ebrian wrote:

Look, I don't know how other teams will fare this year, but 27 wins seems like a lot for these Raptors. Given the current makeup of the team, I would say 30 wins would be as if we came from nowhere and every player overachieved. 27 wins is kind.

I think we'll be lucky to win 20-25 games this season.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:S...y_luck.jpg&t=1
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 04:37 PM
madeupid25

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LBF wrote:

can you compete for the worst in the league?

LOL I am not sure now that you mention it. I do think the Raptors will be looking at a top 5 pick next year.
Mon Aug 9th, 2010, 04:42 PM
smushmush

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your mom wrote:

According to ESPN, Raptors are 15th in Eastern Conference in 10-11. In my opinion its hard to disagree. Thoughts?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...-EastStandings

Sounds about right but I don't see Washington, Detroit, Indiana and other Eastern Conference bottom feeders getting more than 30 wins.

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