Could Kyrie Irving Be The Answer?

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Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 11:11 AM
lankanzero

Could Kyrie Irving Be The Answer?

Could Kyrie Irving be the answer that the raptors have been looking for in a young point guard. Kyrie could also fit in with the Young Gunz persona that Bryan Colangelo is looking for. A Point Guard who can Score in a Vast amount of ways, Is Athletic as any player in the league right now,can break ankles like a young Allen Iverson, can distribute the ball as good as anyone in the league or anyone that used to play in the league, and most importantly this Young,Quick and Smart Point Guard can PLAY Defense.But the question is are the raptors Crap enough to get a high lottery pick to ensure we get our savior.
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 11:13 AM
JoePanini

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Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 12:22 PM
ceez

he'd be great, but there's another couple options in the draft we can go with as well. at this point, i think a great PG is the biggest missing piece to this team.
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 12:32 PM
Buddahfan

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lankanzero wrote:

Could Kyrie Irving be the answer that the raptors have been looking for in a young point guard. Kyrie could also fit in with the Young Gunz persona that Bryan Colangelo is looking for. A Point Guard who can Score in a Vast amount of ways, Is Athletic as any player in the league right now,can break ankles like a young Allen Iverson, can distribute the ball as good as anyone in the league or anyone that used to play in the league, and most importantly this Young,Quick and Smart Point Guard can PLAY Defense.But the question is are the raptors Crap enough to get a high lottery pick to ensure we get our savior.

His is all around game better than Selby's?
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 12:45 PM
lankanzero

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Buddahfan wrote:

His is all around game better than Selby's?

In my opinion Josh Selby has better athleticism but irving has better defense and better passing abilities to go with his ball handling skills. If Kyrie Irving is gone my next choice would be Brandon Knight and then Josh Selby.

List of Draft Picks I like.

1.Kyrie Irving
2.Brandon Knight
3.Enes Kanter.
4.Josh Selby.
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 01:11 PM
jeff_hostetler

The 14 lottery teams from last season were:

Jersey, Sac, GS, Was, Phi, Det, LAC, NY, Ind, NO, Mem, TO, Hou.

My guess is that we can add Cle and Cha to that list, but can remove Ind and NY.

Of those 14 teams (adjusted), Phi, Det, TO, Cle and Cha could definitely use a new franchise PG. You can add Jersey, LAC, NO, Mem and Sac as teams who could use a second PG, but who would be smart to look at other positions (if the draft were to happen now).

Honestly, between those 5 teams it's a crapshoot to guess who will end up with a worse/better record, but TO certainly has a shot at ending up with one of Irving, Knight or some of the other potential franchise 1's in the draft.
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 01:29 PM
grindhouse

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lankanzero wrote:

In my opinion Josh Selby has better athleticism but irving has better defense and better passing abilities to go with his ball handling skills. If Kyrie Irving is gone my next choice would be Brandon Knight and then Josh Selby.

List of Draft Picks I like.

1.Kyrie Irving
2.Brandon Knight
3.Enes Kanter.
4.Josh Selby.

irving is listed at 6-1 and they have selby at 6-4, i would go with the 6-4 guard every time. even if selby can't play D at 6'4 with athleticism he can learn.
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 01:41 PM
sleepz

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Buddahfan wrote:

His is all around game better than Selby's?

Is Selby even going to be cleared to play ball at KU this year?
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 01:43 PM
Bendit

Cory Joseph anyone?...from TO...might well be considered a top tier pg selection.
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 01:43 PM
sleepz

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grindhouse wrote:

irving is listed at 6-1 and they have selby at 6-4, i would go with the 6-4 guard every time. even if selby can't play D at 6'4 with athleticism he can learn.

The difference between the two players beyond height is pg skills. There will be very few players in the draft next year (depending if Irving comes out or not) with Irving's pg abilities, Selby included.
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 02:35 PM
Madman

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Bendit wrote:

Cory Joseph anyone?...from TO...might well be considered a top tier pg selection.

+1

Cory from the videos ive seen at least seems to be more of a pure shooter
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 03:10 PM
jk1m

1. Kyrie Irving
2. Brandon Knight
3. Perry Jones - That's if we don't get the #1 pick. What do you think of him as our SF?
4. Enes Kanter - Will need to see him play in the NCAA.
5. Josh Selby
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 03:49 PM
CalibreMC

let's talk draft when it matters.......april/may, and until then find another hobby trolls. I suppose you all have nuthing better to do. I suggest finding a real LIVE person to conversre with...hahaha....just kidding. But seriously we are so far removed from that notion, that it is just comical.
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 04:00 PM
smushmush

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ceez wrote:

he'd be great, but there's another couple options in the draft we can go with as well. at this point, i think a great PG is the biggest missing piece to this team.

+1. That is why if the Raps get a Top 7 pick, any pick outside of the PG position will be a grave mistake. I will also be okay with Brandon Knight as a consolation prize if by some unfortunate circumstances, we lose Kyrie Irving(that is, why the TPE and expiring contracts will help to ensure we get Kyrie.:)).
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 05:18 PM
Mr.Grinch

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lol
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 07:06 PM
Edgar

IF the Raps want to bounce back to respectibility ASAP - they pick a playmaking PG (who can mask other player's offensive deficiencies)

IF they want to take the long road and build a eventual Title Contender - they try their luck and pick a Dominant Wing player.

Simplified - I know, but you get the point. The best PG's in the league are continually shut down in the playoffs when the Ref's allow more contact. Seriously - The last great playmaking PG to make it to the NBA finals (Rondo is a possible exception here) is John Stockton. Considering our luck with making it out of the first round in the Post-Carter era - I'd lean toward option #2.
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 09:20 PM
ShinobiOne

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grindhouse wrote:

irving is listed at 6-1 and they have selby at 6-4, i would go with the 6-4 guard every time. even if selby can't play D at 6'4 with athleticism he can learn.

I disagree with this. I will take a smaller PG with proven D over a bigger development project anyday. I think we've tried to "develop" a few Raptors defensive skills in the past with poor results.

Why hate on the small PG anyways. I do recall a few good ones in the last 20 years: (Isaiah, Rondo, Nash, Chris Paul, Parker, Stockton...) I could go on and on but you get the point. Most of those guys played some pretty decent D if I do recall correctly ;)
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 10:34 PM
lankanzero

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grindhouse wrote:

irving is listed at 6-1 and they have selby at 6-4, i would go with the 6-4 guard every time. even if selby can't play D at 6'4 with athleticism he can learn.

Its not like Kyrie Irving lacks athleticism he is athletic as anyone Point Guard in that draft, not as athletic as Josh Selby but still brings that spring to his step. Even before his Year at Duke he is already be compared to greats such as Steve Nash/Isiah Thomas and Chris Paul because of the traits these greats shared with Kyrie Irving
Thu Aug 26th, 2010, 11:37 PM
LBF

how vout focusing on this season before we jump to next offseason.
Fri Aug 27th, 2010, 01:19 AM
JoePanini

I think I'll have a beard by the time the next draft comes along... :P

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