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After watching the first 15 games or so I think Reggie should be in Toronto's future plans and should perhaps look into signing him to a contract extention. It's clear he dedicated himself this summer and the results have showed he is a monster and other teams fear the beast.!!
I would sign him to 3-4 yrs, by that time Ed Davis should be ready to start.
Of course we should sign him for long term...he is only 30...:rolleyes:
That makes absolutely no sense... if you're even the least bit interested in the long-term growth of this team!
Reggie is already 30 years old and there are already 2 younger, more skilled PFs on the roster that need playing time to realize their full potential - Johnson and Davis. Evans should be nothing more than a stop-gap measure. His true value for the Raptors is him using the first half of this season to increase his market value as an asset come the trade deadline! With his excellent rebounding and hustle, decent man-to-man defense and $5M expiring contract, BC damn well better trade him to improve this team for the long-term!
30 years old mean very little. Reggie is younger than 90% of Boston team. Every contending team needs a player like Evans who brings the intangibles of hustle, heart, and swagger if you want to compete against the best teams. Is it a coincidence we hadn't beaten Boston in 3 years, yet the first time a healthy Reggie starts for us he pulls down 16 boards makes garnett a non factor and we win ...Quote:
CalgaryRapsFan wrote:
I agree that Amir and Davis need time. But Evans can be a good mentor for Davis and if Davis gets stronger hecan play pf/centre which mean Evans wont affect either johnsons are davis developlement if anything he can only help.
I would re-sign him, thing is that we have Amir and Ed playing the 4. Unless it's one year, veteran minimum then no.
DunkinDerozan,Quote:
DunkinDerozan wrote:
im gonna say this very nicely...
Based on the your posts and forums so far during your brief time as a member it is very evident that you dont have much of a basketball IQ. No offense, and i know this will sound rude but jsut because you think something; doesnt mean you should say it aloud. Again, no offense but forums like these are a waste. sorry
Ps reggie will be gone by the dead line IMO. if not then signed to a 1 year vet min
What Reggie has done for the team has been great, his hustle and grittiness has been somewhat contagious. Amir, although very young, is on his 6th year in the league, he has had plenty of mentoring from some very good players in Detroit and Toronto. It is time, and we have seen it the last 2 games, for Amir to gain some consistency. Davis is still an unknown and it would be nice to have a vet for him to learn from, but Evans may be more valuable to a contending team then he is as a babysitter to our young players. Reggie's 5 million deal that expires this year may bring in a late first round pick from a top team in need of a banger, package him with a Wright and it may be a pick and a decent prospect.
I cheer what Reggie has done, and is doing, but I am not sure he has a future with the club.
It's insane that everyone wants Reggie gone. For the first time in like a decade the Raps have a banger, a guy who grabs boards, plays tough, and, most importantly, provides the heart and hustle that compels the team to play harder. He is their unquestioned glue guy and floor leader. It is sad to see so many willing to toss him on the heap of players whose value consists of only of being trade fodder. He should be a Raptor next year. He doesn't necessarily need to play a lot, but the team is better with him for the intangibles he brings. Davis hasn't played a minute. It will take time. Reggie can still be effective for a few more seasons. He's not going to get the money he's making now from any team. But for 2-3m, it'd be foolish not to want him to stick around.
I would keep him as well for under 4 million. People don't realize if he wasn't on our team, other teams would beat the crap out of the raptors because they are a bunch of pansies. He does a lot of good things that goes unnoticed (Setting picks, taking charges, intimidating other teams by threatening to beat them up!) Everyone on the raptors can go out and play tougher because they know Uncle Reggie will kick their ass! I call it the "Oakley" factor. He goes toe to toe with Dwight Howard and isn't scared to body slam him! Again one of the main reasons we were close in the boston game is because of Reggie. Boston has the toughest team in the league. They win games by bullying and intimidating. The Lakers had to go out and get Ron Artest to toughen them up so Boston wouldn't push them around. So not to go off on anymore tangents, the take home point is, without Reggie Evans we would get beaten up and pushed around every game!
If only we can combine Reggie and Andrea into one person, and then we can start Amir or Ed Davis at the 4. Life would be good for a raptor fan!
Well if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black then I don't know what is. Listen to your own advice next time. ;)Quote:
pesterm1 wrote:
These are forums guys where everyone is entitled to an opinion. Let's cut him some slack. God knows I read worse over the last year.
Don't be a hater! Listen to your own words, just because YOU think something doesn't mean you should write it publicly! It's a public forum where all raptor fans can bitch and complain together because we love our team so much and think we can do a better job than BC. It's our safe place!Quote:
pesterm1 wrote:
I like Reggie, he is a solid contributer to this team and brings some of that toughness we've needed since the Bosh era started. I am also not sure he is going to be moved this season anymore because Anderson is gone. Suddenly we have 4 bigs on the roster including Davis and since Ed is going to take some time to get into heavy minutes, I think we need Reggie on this team right now. I would like him to be traded to make more playing time once we bring in a good back up center, maybe Alabi after his D-league stint, or Oden this summer if we can get him.
Reg The Fierce MOST DEFINITELY serves a purpose on this team!
Reggie also love sToronto. That's something we have a hard time finding. Even if he is signed to the vet's minimum and plays 14-15 minutes a game, those young guns will still have to bang with him in practice. I like the idea of keeping him around. He's a good leader and role model for these kids and that should not be overlooked.
I would definitely sign Reggie, but not for an extension. I'd sign him for less money to mentor the young guys on the team, specifically the bigs. If he wants a bigger contract on another team, then so be it. But I hope BC doesn't give him the "Turkoglu" contract. We need Reggie to be the way he is until Davis (and maybe Alabi) develops.
First off, I'm not a Reggie hater. Second, I respect everyone's opinions in this forum. However, the suggestion to sign Reggie to a multi-year contract is bordering on lunacy. All that BC is doing right now is using Reggie for what he is good at (while justifying his 5 Mil salary). He is also using Reggie for showcasing purposes. I know that he has hustle and heart and it is rubbing off on this young team. All is great until defence and offense is concerned. For eight consecutive games or so, Reggie is in the negative double digits as far as (+/- stats are concerned). Reggie masks his weak defense with ferocious rebounding. He doesn't want to foul as much because he wants to stay in the game and get some more rebounds (unlike Amir where he has to foul even if it costs him the game). I blame part of Amir foul patterns because he wants to help so badly in help defenses. All his fouls are not entirely his fault.Quote:
DunkinDerozan wrote:
Allow me to illustrate a situation yesterday about Reggie's aggressiveness. First off, he was -14 yesterday (this stat matters no matter how you cut it. It doesn't matter if you have Jose or Bargs in the same lineup. Bargs was +2 yesterday). In this example, Reggie and Jose were after a rebound. Clearly, the ball was in Jose's hands, but Reggie wanted the rebound. The ball was jarred loose and the Celts recover to hand it over to Allen for a game tying 3 (94-94). I know that this was a small sample size but this is what I'm talking about. On a normal team, Reggie has no business starting. Playing 4 against 5 on offense is not a way to win games. From an offensive standpoint, were 17th down from 4th last year (I know it's early). I know that we also need to address defense but at double digits in the minus category, it is clear that Reggie's rebounds are overrated. Let me ask you guys a question, what is the difference between him and Dorsey? Let Dorsey start and it will be the same!
BC is merely showcasing Reggie since the beginning. He is a good guy and an emotional component of this team. We traded our "leader" (Captain Jack) because he's killing the offensive flow and turnovers - and won the game yesterday shorthanded against the defending Eastern Champs! Soon, we can trade our emotional "leader" for some pieces that we actually need. If he goes tomorrow and Dorsey plays more (Amir starts of course), what do we give up? If we trade Jack by cutting our TO's by a third, wouldn't it be better if we trade Reggie (while he still has value) and move our offensive efficiency from 17th to 4th? Isn't that worth a look?
PS> Love is leading the league in all rebounding categories but Minny is just as terrible. The team's point allowed is one of the worst in the league. I'm not saying that rebounding is not important, it's just over-rated as an individual stat. Here's the kicker, Love can score!!!
I like the idea of keeping him, if possible...
BC can get a lot more for $5 million a year than Reggie.
The Raptors have Davis, Kleiza and that other guy locked into long term contracts. All play the PF none of whom are making more than $5 million this season. BC or Triano, sorry I can't remember which one stated in the trade presser that they are already planning to give Kleiza more time at the PF slot this season given the Raptors glut of wing players.
Given what we know at this point I can see the Raptors possibly signing Evans this coming summer for the Veterans Exemption for a season or two if there still is a VE come the next CBA provided that they can't or choose not to resign Dorsey or can't move Evans before the trade deadline for a better player making $5 million or less or possibly a draft choice or two.
To me given the current roster makeup it will come down to either Dorsey or Reggie or possibly neither come next season.
I am not so sure that Evans is the toughest Raptors player. Dirtiest yes, toughest I am not so sure.:):)
A lot of fans tend to confuse tough and dirty when it comes to players. Someone can be tough without being a dirty player and someone can be a dirty player without being tough.
Just because a player is prone to grab the crotch of an opponent during a game doesn't make him tough:D:D
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P.S. The Raptors defense gives up a lot more points in the paint when Reggie is in there than when the "Foul Machine" is playing in his place. So who is tougher. The guy who lets opponents walk for easy layups untouched or the guy who will knock an opponent on their ass, depending on the game situation?
Your a dipshit who says that? Its one thing to have a differing opinion, but its another to call somebody dumb, especially when your completely wrong. Reggie has brought a toughness to this team that we have been seriously lacking over the last couple years. If we didn't have Reggie I doubt we would have any wins. Your a moron.Quote:
pesterm1 wrote:
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pesterm1 wrote:
Wow whats your interpertation of nicely... Me having low basketball IQ, me speakig out loud my formus are a waste of time ... or your last line which completly disagrees with my idea loll.
Well let me say this either you just started watching the Rapotrs this year or your just completly ignorant to the fact the Raptors have been near the bottom in Rebounding for the last 5 years or so. Hopefully your in the former category otherwise, Im am kind of shocked that you can call me out on this statement. Buy yourself some Raptors Games Video from the previous 5 years and then look up how not to rebound 101... both should be crossed referenced...
And then Your face should be planted on the Raptors 2005-2010 Games video cover..:)