Heres an objective comparison. I realize this isnt the end all of either players value.
Nash- 12.5ppg - 10.7apg - 3rpg - 0.6spg - 3.7tpg
Dragic (when starting)- 18ppg - 8.4apg - 3.5rpg - 1.8spg - 3.2tpg
*Nash shot the ball a bit better in all three categories but Dragic is up there too in efficiency.
*Dragic played more mpg as a starter but that shouldn't matter as its unlikely Nash's minutes will go up. He played 32 mpg, has some injury issues and is getting older.
I like both for the Raptors, but I also think both the Nash deal and Dragic's asking price are too high. Id personally take Dragic as I like him for the future and think hes a far better defender, so long as he isnt asking more than 5 years (or is this already the max length under new CBA rules?). 4 would be ideal
With those advanced stats, Alabi should be our starting center for the next decade :cool:
Yes, Ilyasova can rebound, but does he help the team to be better at rebounding?
Just for the sake of argument, let's also take a closer look at this rebounding numbers, which similarly jumped this past season. Ersan is more crafty than strong and more instinctive than athletic on the glass, and he tends to have a bigger impact on offensive rebounding that he does when it comes to keeping opponents off the boards. Looking at the team rebounding percentages when he is on/off the court, Ilyasova has consistently improved Milwaukee's offensive rebound rate when on the floor, and always raised it to a mark that would be the equivalent of a top-10 team in the NBA.
Unfortunately, he's had trouble making the same impact when it comes to keeping counterparts away from the rim on the other end. When Andrew Bogut was around, the Bucks always finished in the top-10 in defensive rebound rate (ie-keeping opponents off the glass), but this past season they ranked 25th overall and were by far the worst in the league with Ersan on the floor -- the Golden State Warriors finished last with a DRR of 69.14%, while the Bucks only managed a pitiful 66.6% rate (!) with Ilyasova on the floor.
Also, everyone here realizes that Ersan only exploded because he was in a contract year, right?
if rap ends up signing him, more moves will be made, this we all know for sure, why else would BC stock pile a shit load of SF/PF's for.
Noban: Landy Fields is garbage and not worth close to $20 for 3 years. Nobody but BC would do that. It's stupid
Raps Repub: Get your facts right!
Noban: According to per 48 minutes and PER, Fields compares less than favourably to Gary Forbes.
Raps Repub: Hey, those aren't the facts we should be using!
The lesson: Raps Repub seems to blindly defend Raptors moves.
Fields compares poorly to our own scrub (Forbes) and to the 2 main wing players on the horrible Bobcats (Maggette and Henderson). He's a below average player that we've offered average to above average money to. If best reason to be optimistic about a signing is "hey, the guy played with a superstar last year," shouldn't more fans be skeptical of the move?
Either Nash or Dragic will do for me.
Both has upsides to consider, Nash being a culture changer, and Dragic being young.
However l tend to lean more towards Nash.
Other than making the Raptors a guaranteed playoff team, he will bring back respectability to his team which has been missing since Bosh left.
Nash is a player magnet too, as he always made every one around him better,
so we can expect other players to consider playing with him in Toronto.
He may not be able to turn things around immediately, but within that 3 years, with Nash's creativity and charisma,
this gamble by BC will bear fruit for sure.