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Both those guys plus picks fit far better with the Hornets long term plans than a high paid sniper with flags around his durability. The Hornets should think long and hard. They don't want another Jamal Mashburn on their hands. I know Mash was a lot older when he hung it up but still, you have to wonder about Gordon long term...
Must say, if the reports are true that Nash would rather be in NY, that this is very disappointing. I was super pumped to see Nash come aboard and bring some respectability to this team; however, if he is not as excited then we move on with a chip on our shoulder... must continually emphasize that this teams needs guys that WANT to play here and are committed to changing the culture.
I hope the reports are wrong and that rather than NY putting together a S&T, it is the Raps that Nash is giving time to. If not, and its the Knicks, then there is no way his reputation doesn't take a hit (it couldn't go anywhere but down). But count this fan as one who would lose some respect. Sorry if I sound like the jealous ex.
So many anti Toronto people in Canada outside of Ontario... Don't think it will effect him outside of the ACC.
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Prime wrote:
I'm as pessimistic as the next guy but why the drop in the nash confidence index? He said all along he would listen to all offers. The knicks made an offer which the Raptors subsequently hijacked. Would think he would wait to hear their re-proposal. Should be interesting to see what they come up with now that Lin reportedly has an offer. So, not much has changed.....I think. I'm still worried but it has more to do with Dallas.
It just worries me that if Nash does not sign with us, there is something seriously wrong with our franchise. We offer 36 mil to the Canadian GOAT to come back to canada to finish his career, and he is thinking about Dallas and New York (two teams I do not think he wins a chip with unless Dallas can swoon like Howard next year). We have always had a tough time getting free agents, but this is just sorta scary.Quote:
Jclaw wrote:
But maybe it is just an over reaction. He has been very democratic about choosing where he goes. Everyone is gonna get a shot from him, which I understand. This is how free agents (or anyone really leaving their team) should operate (take notes Dwight).
thank GodQuote:
Prime wrote:
**Double post alert - I posted this in another thread**
Has anyone ever noticed there are rarely stories given through 'sources' with Nash?
All stories generally have direct quotes from him or lack the anonymous 'source'.
I don't buy this story because it is well known Nash's inner circle is extremely small and they do not play these games through media personalities such as Aldridge. It is just now how he has ever operated - even when PHX let everyone go who was a part of the Suns glory years and deep playoff run in 2010.
Personally, I think this source is a person connected with the Knicks. I believe Nash to stick to his word and make a decision within 4-5 days. I think the last bit of business is to hear what Dallas says.
Nash spurning the Raptors now would have devastating effects, in my opinion, on his role with Basketball Canada and his Canadian business ventures in retirement.
This is all my opinion and I remain skeptical.
Didn't Steve Nash mention he wants to listen to everyone? He knows Dallas had Deron Williams as #1 priority. Therefore, they could not really talk about much until D-Will commits to a team.
Now that Williams is going back to the Nets, Nash will now talk to Cuban and weigh his options from there.
I doubt the Mavs will compete with the Raptors' offer because they want to make a run at Dwight next year. Although Cuban can decide to go for it with Nash and Dirk one last time before completely pressing the reset button. It should be interesting but I still feel that Nash will end up in Toronto.
I doubt New York can do much at this point. They are in trouble with regards to keeping their own free agents already. So signing Nash, which would essentially eliminate their bench (assuming a S&T). They have to worry about Lin, Novak, Smith and Fields.
There are so many stories floating around for speculation. We all know that sooner or later, only the actual events can give an answer. I still think that Nash will come here, unless Dallas sells the NASH NOWITZKY for 3 years.
There's an angle to take with every team which is why speculating is so much fun. lol
The only thing I have read was that Nash was going to give New York time to put a sign and Trade together. This makes sense he said he would look at all offers.Quote:
Paul Coro: The Lakers & Nash are interested in a sign-and-trade. Sounds like there's no way Sarver would do that for the #Suns rival. Twitter
I still think we are the lead team. Dallas does make me nervous they have a lot of money, but as pointed out well here they may not want any long term commitments.
As far as sign and trade asests for Phoenix we have the most.
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The Knicks do not plan to match when it is presented to them on July 11.
Nevertheless, the source said the Knicks are working on other sign-and-trade scenarios with the Suns, with Nash’s approval. Iman Shumpert may have to replace Fields in a package that also may include Dan Gadzuric’s $1.4 million non-guaranteed contract, Toney Douglas’ expiring pact, Jerome Jordan and Josh Harrellson. Nash could end up making up to $8 million. Without a sign-and-trade, the Knicks only have their $3.09 million mini-midlevel exception.
The Raptors could offer Nash as much as three years, $36 million, and a source close to Nash said if they do, it could be Canadian money he can’t pass up.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knick...#ixzz1zeockUCi
http://www.thestar.com/sports/basket...nse-smith-says
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and despite the slowness of the process there is no indication from anyone I’ve talked to that it’s anything more than a guy taking his time to make a decision, as infuriating as that may be to you — what is there?
i hate doug smith.... but he's right.
our anxiety over the whole thing is a product of our own making... i blame social media
it's kinda like people having a cigarette to calm down their stress..... but if they didn't smoke, they wouldn't be that stressed in the first place
http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/2...h_waiting_for/Quote:
You can't fault someone for investigating options. Nash has pledged to do that since it was clear he was unlikely to return to Phoenix and was jumping into free agency with both feet.
But there's a fine line between considering your options and looking around desperately for something -- anything -- even remotely as good as the one that has been front-and-centre all along, waiting expectantly.
The Toronto Raptors want Steve Nash, and have never wavered. It's seemingly evermore clear that they're going to get their man.
The trick will be for Nash -- should the day come -- to seem just as happy about it as everyone else will be.
Michael Grange is a columnist for sportsnet.ca and a senior writer at Sportsnet magazine.
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I came across one tweet that sums up the current mood pretty well. Wouldn't you know, it comes from a puck head making a baseball reference.
Damien Cox @DamoSpin
It would be so very good for Raptors if they can land Nash. Yet doesn't it have foreboding feel of Darvish sweepstakes?
Alan Hahn
"Steve Nash, meanwhile, and the Knicks are working with the Suns to complete a sign-and-trade deal that would bring Nash to New York. Indications are the Knicks are his top choice, but because a trade is complicated (and there is great hesitation to give up Iman Shumpert), the Raptors are in play. A lot of effort has been made, however, to get this done."
FFS!
Source - Click here
He's clearly a NYK homer. I'd be very interested to know where these alleged indications are coming from, assuming it's someplace other than his gut or nether-regions.Quote:
thead wrote:
Alan Hahn is the Knicks version of Leo Rautins. So I take what he has with a grain of salt. ;)Quote:
CalgaryRapsFan wrote:
Marc Berman @NYPost_Berman
Robert Randolph's tweet looks right. #Knicks closing in on Steve Nash in sign and trade with Phoenix.
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God damn Steve, make up your mind! these rumours are just making it worse
Yeah, but Robert Randolph apparently broke the Melo deal before anyone else, so he's got a track record here. Also, Berman at the Post is no hack and he's running with it, too.Quote:
Doc Naismith wrote:
I do wonder though cause the strong inference is that Nash really wants to stay in New York or he would have just taken the $36 million. Maybe some guys are just playing the odds and hoping to be proven correct, so they can claim they have "sources".
I can't wait to hear all the excuses for this management team if Nash doesn't come to Toronto. It's clear from recent history that if you want a premium free agent you have to build a team for him to make an attractive landing place. I am looking forward to the equivocation over the failure to do so here.