LOL Definately worth watching. Garcia and Hayes seem to careQuote:
themasao wrote:
LOL Definately worth watching. Garcia and Hayes seem to careQuote:
themasao wrote:
Shows how difficult it is for players on the floor with adrenaline pumping to actually tank/clank a shot. Thornton ran a near perfect play to get open and shot the ball to score. With Garcia's reaction it is clear that "tanking" had to have been discussed among the players. I think muscle memory and bb dna kicks in because these guys have ALWAYS been wired to win. The same thing happened to Kleiza last night. That is one of his favourite positions and could have tied the game...he shot to make it. I would have done a Garcia if he did.Quote:
jbml wrote:
I don't understand why tanking is an issue all-of-a-sudden. It's been this way for years, and is basically the same way in all major sports.
It is because all the big or desirable markets are in the playoffs. New York, LA, or Chicago in the lottery, this is not nearly as big an issue as it has been made out to be this year.Quote:
Nilanka wrote:
i heard somewhere that Garcia wasn't upset cause he made the shot and he wanted to "Tank", its because Thornton shot it a little too early on the clock so the other team still had a chance to win it.
Ya I heard that too -- it's definitely possible. I mean its all speculation really, but I still find it kinda suspect how Garcia still seemed pissed off after the buzzer sounded. Not to mention, the play was clearly designed as a curl around a screen for a spot up shot. Gordon would have been an idiot (from a non-tanking perspective) to do anything other than catch-and-shoot.Quote:
NoPropsneeded wrote:
I can't buy that.
Would you expect a player to admit that they wanted to loose. Imagine what that would open up!
i find that stupid too. I seriously doubt players have the same perspective to tanking as fans. We think it'll make us better, but to them it should be an insult thinking a younger kid can come in and turn the team around, but they can't.
So I'm here looking at the standings and I'm seeing this:
If the Raptors lose the last two they could conceivably finish with or tied for 4th worst record in the league. I guess 3rd isn't officially out but it's a massive long shot.Code:LOTTERY
W L PCT STRK Chances Odds
1 Charlotte 7 57 0.109 Lost 21 250 25%
2 Washington 18 46 0.281 Won 4 199 20%
3 New Orleans 20 44 0.313 Lost 1 156 16%
4 Cleveland 21 43 0.328 Lost 2 119 12%
5 Sacramento 21 43 0.328 Won 1 88 9%
6 New Jersey 22 43 0.338 Lost 5 63 6%
7 Toronto 22 43 0.338 Lost 4 43 4%
8 Golden State 23 41 0.359 Won 1 28 3%
Top 3 games remaining on the 'tanking schedule':Quote:
Apollo wrote:
New Orleans and Golden State play Tuesday
Cleveland and Washington play Wednesday
New Jersey and Toronto play Thursday
Bonus 'tanking matches':
Sacramento and OKC (minus Harden)
Sacramento and LAL (at SAC where they are 15-17 with Laker distractions everywhere)
I'd even settle with Toronto finishing in a tie for 5th worse with Cleveland, which would give them both a 7.5% chance. The NJ game is big for Tank Nation, as it could conceivably put the losing team at the T-5 position (7.5%) and the winning team at the #7 position (4%)... one meaningless game could be the difference between drafting Beal/Barnes and drafting from the next tier (Sullinger, Jones, Jones III, Lamb, Lillard, Marshall).Quote:
Matt52 wrote:
It's starting all over again.
Just lose, baby!
It's so great to have the poisonous tanking mindset behind us!