He doesn't fit the definition whether it's a little or a lot.
He doesn't fit the definition whether it's a little or a lot.
I hope Jose is a Raptor lifer ... he is already the best Raptor PG ever, judged on time wearing the dino - and is a class act. If he could start another year or two and transition into a leadership and stability role as a back-up ... why not?
Well then whether it's a little or a lot, this is a mislabelled thread, and I'd like to propose that Nate Huffman qualifies as a Toronto lifer. Sure it's only 7 games, and the team tried to screw him out of his money, resulting in a lawsuit. So while there is clearly no desire for either him or the team to recognize it, he played his entire NBA career in Toronto, and is thus by your technical definition, a "lifer". =PQuote:
Apollo wrote:
Clearly I'm kidding with this, but seriously, I understand the technicality, but lets say we keep Jose until his final year, and then trade him because we know he's done, or he wants to go somewhere else(maybe we'd be bad again by then, and since Jose's game is not very athletic to begin with, he may still be useful as a 2nd or 3rd PG), and he's traded away for 40-50 games...would you then disqualify him as a lifer? I think there needs to be some flexibility. If your definition is very rigid, I'd say I doubt Jose will be a lifer, and these days it's usually just franchise guys like Duncan, Kobe, etc...who can be and usually choose to be. And even some of those calibre players just choose to go elsewhere.
Sorry, I think I dissed PJ Tucker, who played a whole 17 games for us before washing out of the league and going to Europe.
Ok, so the thread was mislabeled. Fixed. The main concept of the thread remains intact.Quote:
white men can't jump wrote:
The main concept of the thread is playing out an NBA career only in one spot.Quote:
white men can't jump wrote:
Source: The SunQuote:
Don’t hold your breath on the Raptors using the amnesty clause this season.
Certainly where Jose Calderon is concerned, you can pretty much forget about it.
Calderon, who has a year left and 10.561-million on his contract has been speculated in the past as a potential amnesty target.
The amnesty clause was included in the NBA collective bargaining agreement signed in December and allows teams a one-time only opportunity to get out from under their worst contracts.
The Knicks did it with Chauncey Billups and the Orlando Magic did it with the Gilbert Arenas deal. Toronto could use it to free up more cap space, but Colangelo sounds very reluctant to use it at all and even more reluctant to use it on Calderon’s final year.
“There is no promise or assurance there and I’d say based on the progress of Jose Calderon — he’s the one that everyone targets as that potential amnesty piece — I can share with you that there is tremendous value on this team for Jose Calderon within the coaching staff, within the management team, within the locker room,” Colangelo said. “All of our post-season meetings with the players led us to a clear conclusion that there’s a few leaders in that locker room and one of them is Jose Calderon. The players have a tremendous amount of respect for him.”
Somebody in here was questioning Jose's leadership but they had no backup. Here's some more information counter to your point.
I don't think Colangelo wants to amnesty Calderon, but if a player becomes available (say Rudy Gay), who requires an extra $10 million in cap space to obtain, I bet Colangelo thinks long and hard about it.
Jay Bay can take over next season
Sure but that doesn't mean he would do a good job at it. I could take over next season but believe me, you don't want to see that.
I don't know Apollo, that avatar of yours shows an NBA ready body!Quote:
Apollo wrote:
Hey don't hate on Mr.Bigshot Bayless. He's the next Chauncey Billups, future starting pg
Don't tell anyone but I'm not Carl Weathers.Quote:
WJF wrote:
Ya,right.Quote:
Apollo wrote:
What are you gonna tell me next that picture is from 35 years ago?
Maybe...Quote:
NoPropsneeded wrote:
But, not on this team.
Yes on this team!Quote:
LBF wrote:
Why amnesty a guy who is a valuable trade asset (that is, if the team chooses to move him)? It's not like Calderon has 3-4 years left on his contract.Quote:
Nilanka wrote:
Is he a valuable asset? Considering all Barbosa fetched us was a 50th pick, how much more value could Calderon realistically net us?Quote:
MangoKid wrote:
And like I suggested, Colangelo only does it if he absolutely needs an extra $10 million in the here and now, to sign someone important.
Expiring contracts ARE valuable, IF you are willing to bring back a multi-yeared contract. In Barbosa's case Colangelo was doing him a favour.
Good point. There were probably better offers for Barbosa with salary commitments beyond next season (which goes against what Colangelo was looking for).
I agree with Nilanka, just because i consider this season as a make-or-break for the Raps. I think they need to challenge this off-season head on, guns blazing and empty that clip till nothings left.Quote:
Nilanka wrote:
if they have to amnesty calderon for Gay, then so be it.