I think Marshall might turn out okay, but there are much better options at #8. I am not a big fan.
I have to agree with the consensus, Pass on Marshall. There will be better players available at 8 that also fill a "need" more than Marshall does. I would take Marshall only if we had an amazing deal on the table for Calderon, but that is highly unlikely. I don't think a Tyson Chandler for Jose Calderon offer will ever be plausible.
I watched both Marshall and Rubio frequently and there is not a big difference in their offensive games. Marshall is not just a great passer - he is a borderline genius passer. In the right system - Marshall could have the same impact Rubio has had on O. The issue with Marshall will be how he adapts at the defensive end.
Haven't watched much college hoops but Calderon's a pretty good passer himself. People talk of Marshalls passing skills, are we talking like calderon style? or way better
Probably better at getting everyone involved. Jose's a pick and roll master but sometimes I find gets a little tunnel vision with it.
If BC wants a scorer at #8 put me down for Lillard.
He and Marshall are considered the 2 best PGs in this draft. One of Lillard's negatives is that he played for a small school (Weber) in a lesser conference but he is a scorer. 24.5 pt avg his last year, 51.7% 2pt, 40.9% 3pt. His assists were low...4 but the reasoning is that he was the first option/best player on his team and did. Some have described him similar in style/attitude as a Westbrook the scoring pg that is the preference these days. He ranks 1st in turnover/possession amonst all NCAA pgs (Draftexpress). PnR is also his game and he has a 90% FT%. His on-the-ball defense is very good because of his agility/athleticism but will have to adjust to learning/playing NBA defenses (but who doesnt!). Change of pace and taking it inside he does often with a quick first step. His defender has to guard this which gives his jumpshot a lot of room.
All in all a pretty decent resume I think. Marshall no doubt has his strengths comparatively...size and passing/assists and tougher conference and is a pass first pg style. I have noted that he gets a rap as not a good scorer but some of the games I have seen of him he did quite well taking a shot when it was there and making it.
Lillard however just comes across more dynamic and a couple of his vid interviews I have seen presents him as very confident and well spoken. He feels he can change his game to be more of a distributor (but they all say this dont they?). This is where his workout and interview/due diligence and also the advanced metrics BC supposedly uses will come into play.
Admission: I have never seen him play lol...but the vids look terrific!!
Chad Ford has Portland, Toronto and NO interested in him with Portland possibly taking him 6th. NO I think is 11th.
Portland has 6 and 11.
NO has Anthony Davis and 10.
When I read about DL I think of Paul George who also came from a not so known college and conference, went 10th. There must be a few GMs kicking themselves if they let him go because of this predisposition. I believe BC would have picked him if he had fallen (this is something I read somewhere) and if true which further speaks to his ability to spot talent in the early going at least.
Just watched the DraftExpress video on Kendall Marshall. Some highlights:
- 'worst case' is Jose Calderon: sounds pretty damn good to me
- he shot 43% from 3-point range over his last 13 games or so: that's good (and JC good)
- yes, defense is the biggest concern
I like the thought of drafting him: he learns behind JC (incidentally the best player on the Raptors by some statistically measures), and Raptors lock down this position for the next decade with a solid starter and backup. And yes, I take Kendall at #8 over Machado at #37.
If the guy already has troubles keeping his man in front of him NOW, then I am thoroghly concerned.
Just my take, but I would like my 1 man to be able to contain his man for the most part. I guess I can live with Jose since he is already 30, but for a guy coming out of college ......
His passing skills really are impressive and I see some Jason Kidd abilities with passing, but JKidd was fast and really good defensively.
I think we are due for 2 way players, and Kendall Marshall does not satisfy this criteria for me.
On the flip side, I like Damian Lillard's competitiveness. He plays with a huge chip on his shoulder all the time, and also has size.
I wouldn't mind him at all.
I think it will be a huge mistake if we draft Marshall with Lillard still on the board.