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I'm assuming a trade will be made that involves either Amir or Davis, so no point using amnesty, since we'll need one of them at backup PF. Besides, unless there's a big signing/trade that is imminent, there's no point to rush to use the amnesty now. I think they'll probably just keep it for next offseason, when they could still use it on Amir/Kleiza.Quote:
YYZ wrote:
My memory might be failing me, but what competitive team with no all-star already there was built by trading for someone they'll have to pay close to 90 million over 4 years starting when that guy is already 31 untill he is almost 35; a player who looks past his peak and in two years (when he still has two years left on his albatros contract) will be top 10 among active players in total minutes played? I'm not exactly wondering why Atlanta traded him.Quote:
ball4life wrote:
Maybe signing Nash and Fields was not a good idea, but trading for Johnson certainly wasn't.
JJ is a dam good player and who said he went 29th overall, he went 16th...why ppl hating on his offensive game? what u wanna see? lebron james style dunk, 3 pointers from halfcourt, jump from the free line throw all day...is that consider good offense to ppl when they talkign about how he lacked offensively. JJ had greattttt Defense and GOOD offense dont know what you all talkign about...wayy better than Linas Klieza, mr. brickcity european player who fell on his ass when he was trying to do some post moves. If Klieza could play for the raptors like how he played for Denver then I wouldn't care bout JJ but this is a BADDDDD TRADE.BC just trying to look busy so he dont lose his job, JJ is gona kill the raptors when they play the kings.
Why am I complaining? This guy is gone...too bad he would've done well this year for us too.
Yes yes, Kleiza is European, at least you got that right.
So we would have a knucklehead player who is on the clock to leave. Ill pass.Quote:
torch19 wrote:
What do you like more johnson for a high second or barbosa for a low second
I hate to rain on all the Johnson lovers parade but a high 2nd is what JJ is worth. This was a fair trade. Barbosa trade still doesn't make sense to me, I just assume it was the only offer on the table because it wasn't even a cost saving move, we had already paid half his final year.
There were probably better offers for Barbosa that involved taking salary back....something Colangelo wanted no part of.Quote:
Letter N wrote:
Again, Fields "POTENTIAL to be MEDIOCRE and will never justify his contract" is your opinion and has been rebutted otherwise in previous posts. I guess we'll have to wait in a few years to see who is right.Quote:
ball4life wrote:
So you're saying, paying Nash and Fields $56 mil (not $60 mil) over 3 years is a dumb move but paying Joe Johnson $90 mil over 4 years is the way BC should have gone??? Joe Johnson who will be 35 and will be paid $25 mil at the end of his contract is what I can define as having the "POTENTIAL to be MEDIOCRE and will never justify his contract". Most people believe Atlanta won this trade. I agree with you though that Brooklyn would be competitive because they had Wallace, and re-signed DWill and Lopez. With your trade proposal, whou would have been left for the Raps to play with Joe Johnson???
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Letter N wrote:
You mean kill the D-League team the Raptors are associated with?Quote:
Demar_8756 wrote:
I'm still stunned that this is getting so much attention. 12 pages? It's only James Johnson!
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ebrian wrote:
Actually, I agree that Joe Johnson in vacuum is bad idea, but in the context of bait to acquire Deron Williams, it worked out perfectly for Brooklyn. D-Will himself said he was headed to Dallas until the JJ trade changed his mind. Apparently Prokhorov is so stinking rich that luxury tax means nothing to him, so the Nets are at different financial level than even Mark Cuban or the Knicks. If having D-Will + JJ + Wallace + Brook Lopez in place nets the NETS Dwight Howard in free agency next season, then JJ was the first domino of strategy. Good move, you have to admit.Quote:
Soft Euro wrote:
And the yanks and puck heads say no one follows ball in Canada!Quote:
ebrian wrote:
There is the rub though.Quote:
golden wrote:
In doing what they have done they have limited themselves to mini MLE and min contracts from here on out. Starting next year luxury tax teams cannot even do sign and trades so getting D12 is going to be extremely difficult unless he signs for $3m.
You're right. I'm not up to speed on the CBA and cap issues. Regardless, Brooklyn has a really nice starting 5 - on paper. 3 potential 20 point scorers (Lopez, Johnson, Williams) & two 10-15ppg energy guys (Hump, Wallace). All 5 look good on stats like adjusted +/-. Brook Lopez is the key. If he blows up this year, then they might be better off without Howard, since Lopez is already a tremendous low-post scorer. Wallace and Hump offset his poor rebounding. Great post scoring is rare in the league these days. No way that Miami can go small ball for long stretches with Lopez down there. So, even without Howard, I think the JJ gamble paid off pretty good. Instant top 4 team in the Eastern conference for the next few years - on paper.Quote:
Matt52 wrote:
I can just see Petrie offering their first-round pick and BC saying "Oh, you don't have to be that generous, we'll be happy with a 2nd rounder."Quote:
Matt52 wrote: