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Asik is averaging a double/double - which in my opinion makes him currently better than JV.Quote:
japetas wrote:
Edit: If they were playing the same number of minutes, you have a point. But I still think Asik is better defensively. This is just my opinion, and I do hope JV ends up a better player, but after 14 games, I think Asik is better.
Of course, Asik is a player in his prime - 26 years old. He probably won't get any better than this while Jonas should surely surpass him in the future.Quote:
planetmars wrote:
Yup.. I was just responding to a post in which they were asking for all the current NBA centers that are currently better than JV. I included Asik in that list.Quote:
omgsomuchpotential wrote:
Good list!Quote:
planetmars wrote:
So basically JV currently as a rookie is a top 15 big man.
My Expectations JV passes the following in talent:
Ibaka
Hibbert
Asik
Gortat
Chandler
Noah
Bynum
JV has the potential to be better than:
Nene
Bogut
M. Gasol
And, my hopes are JV passes:
Dwight,
Jefferson,
Bosh,
Horford,
Garnett,
Pau Gasol with Kevin Garnett like attitude. I think that's JV's ceiling.Quote:
Vykis wrote:
now THATS elite.Quote:
TRex wrote:
By the time JV is Robinson's age when he came into the league. He'll be putting up 20 and 10 easy! throw in a couple of blocks. Him, Derozan and Eddy D is who we should be building around. Fuck Chucknani. Btw Thanks for the shout out Craiger!
As of now, I don't really get the Gasol comparison, I mean JV is not a finesse player like Pau. I'd say he's more of a really rich man's Marcin Gortat with a lot of attitude.
I see tyson chandler written all over him, perhaps with a little jumper.
I think it's been overlooked how Casey has brought Jonas along this first bit of his NBA career. He has shown confidence in JV and JV has responded.
Stretch, I think JV made the confidence easy.
Jonas was not so good against Olympic competition and I think that coach was not good for JV's confidence.
Are you comparing JV's first 13 games with their first 13 games or their first season?
Jonas has so much heart, is only 20 and along with his physical skills that tells me he could be one of the best.
He reminds me a lot of Marc Gasol with a potential to have a much better low post game. He's a 20/10 guy. Tyson Chandler? I don't even understand that comparison. They don't play at alike. Val already has a better offensive game.
Laughing at people complaining about his defense on Duncan. Ridiculous. Duncan does it to everyone. He's one of the greatest players of all time and JV played him even.
JV impresses me more and more everyday.
His defensive potential is Tyson Chandler like. So many time's he's erased mistakes from the Raptors guards. I also like that he doesn't pick up touchy fouls. He's does pick up fuols but it wasn't Amir-like (who use to and still does to an extent pick up unnecessary fouls). It was nice to see him go to work on Duncan a few times and his passing is underrated. Once he gains strength and guys cant take advantage of him, he's going to be a beast.
JV is more athletic and quicker then Marc Gasol. Its that combination + his length that people are reminded of TC.Quote:
slaw wrote:
I wouldn't compare him to anybody but I think he is "franchise player" material. Raptors will be wise in building around him.
These are the numbers you see? Really? That's all?Quote:
hotfuzz wrote:
Year Team GP GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
2001–02 Chicago 71 31 19.6 .497 .000 .604 4.8 .8 .4 1.3 6.1
2002–03 Chicago 75 68 24.4 .531 .000 .608 6.9 1.0 .5 1.4 9.2
2003–04 Chicago 35 8 22.3 .424 .000 .669 7.7 .7 .5 1.2 6.1
2004–05 Chicago 80 10 27.4 .494 .000 .673 9.7 .8 .9 1.8 8.0
2005–06 Chicago 79 50 26.8 .565 .000 .503 9.0 1.0 .5 1.3 5.3
2006–07 NO/Oklahoma City 73 73 34.6 .624 .000 .527 12.4 .9 .5 1.8 9.5
2007–08 New Orleans 79 79 35.2 .623 .000 .593 11.7 1.0 .6 1.1 11.8
2008–09 New Orleans 45 45 32.1 .565 .000 .579 8.7 .5 .3 1.2 8.8
2009–10 Charlotte 51 27 22.8 .574 .000 .732 6.3 1.1 .3 1.1 6.5
2010–11 Dallas 74 74 27.8 .654 .000 .732 9.4 .4 .5 1.1 10.1
2011–12 New York 62 62 33.2 .679[33] .000 .689 9.9 .9 .9 1.4 11.3
Career 724 527 28.1 .578 .000 .633 8.9 .8 .6 1.4 8.6
I'l be very disappointed if so.
Naw he's going to be big time. Put it this way, if he's better than Bosh than he's worth building around. Bosh was a fringe franchise player, we made it to the playoffs twice with him(probably more if BC had put together the right team and bosh didn't keep getting injured). If Big V is better than bosh than i think this will be a pretty damn good team in a few seasons. We've been patient this long, might as well wait a while longer
Well, I meant chandler but with more offense. He has the ability to hit that jump shot.Quote:
Mack North wrote: