The only thing this fanbase should be concerned about is where Bargs fits. The team is just starting to gel, and then now amidst the trade rumours, we want / wish for things to be broken up. This is a great group of guys - let them gel for a bit.
For example, Rondo can be better than Lebron when they're playing high stakes games. Is he always better player than James? Of course not. But he can raise his game up to that highest level, so I would call Rondo a cornerstone.
On the other hand, as much as I enjoy seeing DeMar's improvement this year, I cannot imagine that he will ever be able to outplay any of the best players for even a single game when it matters.
Other cornerstones right now: Durant, Paul, Westbrook, Kobe, Anthony, Nowitzki, Duncan (maybe still?), D Rose, Kyrie, Pau Gasol, Dwight Howard (I'll keep him here for the moment, but bad backs can be brutal), Noah, Randolph, Love, Rubio, Bynum (an injury prone cornerstone, the worst kind).
Potential cornerstones: Paul George, Steph Curry, Marc Gasol, Anthony Davis, Batum, Lillard, MKG, Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe, Monroe, and a bunch of other dudes with much slimmer chances (and I'd put Ross and Valanciunas in this category, with Ross ahead of Valanciunas).
And I agree with Mediumcore, I think you do whatever it takes to get any of these guys. You overpay for these guys.
+1 Lmao I like the second unit minus bargs/and Dribbles 2.0.........
Watching yesterday's game should have told Raptor fans on here something about this team ......the Raptors are not good enough! The lack the TALENT to compete with REAL teams......They lack the Go-to-guy,the shot creator,(not the two dribble pull up pasta boy does) For BC not to trade for gay when your giving up bench players is ludicrous jose davis and ross are all bench players at best...mediocre talent gets you nowhere .....this run against weaker competition has you guys delusional notice we have lost every half decent team we have played this year?! exempt Houston.... We need top tier talent and if you guys think Gay isn't top tier just know he is instantly the best player on the raps by a mile .....shows how weak this team is. 0.o
And finally, as for acquiring Bledsoe i've read somewhere that LAC is pretty adamant on keeping him until they can secure CP3 who'll be a FA this summer. So it'll be tough to swing a deal for him. And if we do get him Jose will likely not be around which is unfortunate because he'd make a good mentor for him.
You could be right Pong, I'm not saying Bledsoe is a lock to be a franchise talent, but imo he has a shot at being really good and might be a good investment for a team looking to buy low before he possibly blows up. If he gets a consistent shot and you add that to his existing athletecism...watch out.
BTW, I never thought about comparing him to Westbrook, and I know there games are different, but they both have that go all out, play at lightning speed thing happening for him. Thanks for giving me something to think about.
From what I've read the Clippers are not going to trade Bledsoe until the off season. Paul is a free agent and if he signs elsewhere then they would be screwed if they gave up Bledsoe now. However if Paul stays then I would love to have a guy like Bledsoe on the Raptors. That's the type of PG I was hoping for last year. A young PG with potential that can play along side a veteran. Similar to the relationship Lawson and Miller have in Denver.
A couple of thoughts. First, I'm a believer that if you don't have that kind of obvious franchise talent, then your "cornerstone(s)" are likely either a solid big who has a solid defensive impact, or a PG who runs your team well. Think Detroit last decade. Now, doesn't mean no one will be an all-star, including your wings, but that your wings likely aren't the biggest difference makers on either end of the court. Now, don't tell me Detroit wasn't relevant.
Of course the flip side is it's near impossible to win a trophy without one true franchise talent. Detroit was the best team in the east for nearly a decade, but only won one trophy, and Billups had a great playoff run that year. Another team like this was Cleveland waay back in the day (like Mark Price days), or even Portland around 2000, when they had a deep, very talented team, but no true franchise player (partly because of some being too old for that. A younger Sabonis or Pippen would have never let that lead slip away against LA). So I do think, in theory, that the Raptors need to find a way to acquire that kind of player at some point. But Rudy Gay is not that player. Getting him is not similar to Houston getting Harden.
Just something to consider....if Harden were to return to OKC as a starter would he be putting up the same numbers he's putting up in Houston at the moment? Probably not considering he would be differing to other high calibre players. Same could be said for Gay if he were to have his "own" team where he is the man and not differing to Z-Bo and Gasol. I don't want to get into how Memphis is a half court team and Gay's game is more suited to an uptempo style like Houston, OKC and what Toronto wants to be because I'm sure you've already considered that, but it's a valid factor when projecting how Gay might impact the Raptors should a trade happen.
I tell you what: how about you try putting on your big boy pants (maybe borrow big brother's, if you have the balls to fit in them) and tell me what BC knows about basketball, and Rudy Gay, that I don't. Note: I totally accept that I know nothing about managing an NBA team, as BC does, but I'm willing to bet I've played and coached far more basketball than BC has.
Don't just snicker at some misguided snark from my good buddy Nilanka, but tell me what BC knows more about the game of basketball than I, and why my opinion of Rudy Gay is off base.
PS. i noticed in another post that you spoke of Gay being a good outside shooter and defender. Perhaps you should watch him more than you do, because he's not that good at either.
The guy reads a few blog posts and watches some YouTube videos, and thinks that's all there is to it.
As for style of play, Gay is suited for uptempo style how, because he can dunk? I mean, everyone is suited to getting easy baskets. Gay is not a guy who can lead a fast break. He's a slasher. He would benefit from it no more than Ross or Demar.