I'm not willing to trade Derozan until the end of the season.
Gotta say the amount of hate Demar gets around here and Raps players in general its no wonder some people dont want to play here sometimes. Seriously why is he getting so much focus on what he doesnt do as opposed to all the positive he does do?
The Raps would be god awful without him and the games we do win its much in part to him give the poor guy a break, bashing a guy who tries and works hard for his team his fans and his own aspirations is a breath of fresh air, he worked hard for that extension and next season he will be even better. The Demar hate is unwarranted.
Three things to consider....
1 - Bargnani needs to go
2 - How can we add serviceable starting PF and backup PG?
3 - How can we facilitate other trades in the process?
With those things in mind, here are some options...
1 - Facilitate Gasol to Minny - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=auywzc4
To Minny - Gasol (from LAL) and Anderson (from TOR) - gives them Gasol (who Rubio wants) as new C and Anderson as SG off bench (with Brandon Roy out)
To LAL - Bargnani (from TOR) and Barea (from Minny) - gives them fresh blood at PF (Bargs) to stretch floor for Dwight and upgrade at backup PG
To TOR - Pekovic and DWIL (from Minny) and Blake (from LAL) - gives us temporary starting C to help ease JV in, new young stretch-4 to match pace that will be set with Lowry/Derozan/Gay and reliable backup PG that can start next time Lowry is hurt (inevitable
2 - Facilitate Josh Smith to PHX (3 team version) - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ampakz2
To Hawks - Bargs (from TOR) and Marshall (from PHX) - replacement PF to stretch floor for Horford and nice young piece to step in as backup PG
To PHX - Josh Smith (from Hawks) - their prime target and cornerstone for the future
To TOR - Gortat and Brown (from PHX) - stretch Gortat to starting 4 to bruise down low and take load off JV as he develops and solid backup PG/SG in Brown that perfectly matches uptempo pace
3 - Facilitate Josh Smith to PHX (4-team version) - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=be4aync
To ATL - Paul Millsap (from UTA) and Kleiza (from TOR) - replacement starting PF and backup SF or amnesty candidate to give $$ flexibility
To PHX - Josh Smith (from ATL) - their prime target and cornerstone for the future
To UTA - Bargnani (from TOR) and Beasley (from PHX) - new starting PF to stretch floor and better compliment Al Jefferson and new SF
To TOR - Dragic (from PHX) and Favors (from UTA) - starting PF for the future to grow with young core and backup PG to push Lowry and fill spot starts as needed (albeit and expensive backup)
Open to thoughts/feedback...
Let's at least agree on priorities... bye-bye-Bargnani, new starting PF and backup PG...
Why would you want to stir up trouble with Lowry? He and Dragic weren't necessarily close lets keep this ship a float moving steady and avoid any crippling ice burgs shall we?
Last thing we need is another controversy and guess what Lowry unhappy will make Gay unhappy,
And what's your opinion on Delonte West??? He could be a good back up for Lowry, lots of experience too...
I dont know why people keep suggesting that a back up PG is a priority. First, back up anything shouldnt be a priority in any trade or signing. 2nd, JL3, while not perfect, is totally serviceable in a back up role. The fact he can provide some offensive punch is interesting ... and in any event, the minutes should be 30-34 mpg lowry and 14-18 mpg lucas .. which is the way that a real starter / back up should share there minutes .. weve just been stuck in a sub-optimal situation for too long with two "starters" ..
I was playing on the espn trade machine with a three way trade. Toronto gets Derrick Williams, Pekovic. Minni get Pau Gasol. Lakers get bargs, Kleiza and barea. It's not perfect but everyone gets something they need. Probably too sweet for TO as you can argue they are upgrading and lowering salary. The lakers can probably find more value as well but if they are willing to take on contracts longer than to years but if so Fields could be included instead of Linus. The bigger question would the Raptors part with Amir? I doubt it.
Not a good environment for West n TO. He needs to be on a veteran team that won't be distracted if he causes problems. The risk reward just isn't there for Toronto.
I agree. I'm really surprised Williams can't score the ball better and easier than he does. I figured worst case he would give opyou a hollow 16 and 8. i question whether he will ever find a position. he just doesnt shoot it well enough to be stretch 4 and lets be real that you want a lot more out of a 2nd pick than a shooting big off the bench COUGH Andrea COUGH. Another huge red flag is his stats are almost identical to his rookie numbers other than a small uptick in his 3FG%. Not saying i definitely wouldn't acquire him but it all comes down to price and I don't see him becoming a starter.