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  1. Except you know........ the Pacers actually won a...

    Except you know........ the Pacers actually won a round or 2 in the playoffs. Raps have done nothing thus far but lose to a division opponent that ended up behind them in the regular season.

    And...
  2. Having Cleveland with Lebron in the top half of...

    Having Cleveland with Lebron in the top half of the conference makes sense. They most likely won't be the #1 seed but they will be good...because they have Lebron. He'll get you to 50 wins with...
  3. The bars been set now and there are no excuses....

    The bars been set now and there are no excuses. 50 wins, top 4 seed and 2nd round of playoffs should be lowest goal.

    Anything else below that should be viewed as a failure.
  4. Not sure that it matters but Miami media has been...

    Not sure that it matters but Miami media has been reporting that Lowry was never contacted and that Lowry's agent played the situation well. If you think about it, how could Miami have talked any...
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    I think he's a flopper at times and I think I...

    I think he's a flopper at times and I think I know what flopping is.

    Lowry is exceptional at getting these calls. In some instances he gets good position and beats opponents to their spots. Other...
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    Agreed with Lowry being more valuable on the...

    Agreed with Lowry being more valuable on the defensive end of the floor than Curry or Irving. And it's definitely fair to say that scoring gets you paid more than other skills in the league.

    I...
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    DWill fell quickly off the map after the trade...

    DWill fell quickly off the map after the trade from Utah. His ankles are brittle and he lost some of the 'power' in his game.

    He's paid like a superstar but is clearly not one anymore. Still has...
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    Better than Iverson? Iverson will be a HOF'er....

    Better than Iverson? Iverson will be a HOF'er. Lowry's just had a career year at 27.

    Iverson brought a team to the Finals. I understand the enthusiasm over Kyle after a game like last night but...
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    Lowry has been great this season but he's not a...

    Lowry has been great this season but he's not a max player.

    You give him 12-14 million a year and you're gong to wonder where all the salary cap room went and why they can't do anything to...
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    Amen.

    Amen.
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    No disrespect to the Zen Master but leadership...

    No disrespect to the Zen Master but leadership without the 2 HOF'ers, and I don't think it matters.

    Look at the years the Lakers were bounced in the 1st round under his 'leadership'. When you take...
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    What is talent? Are you serious? Every team has...

    What is talent? Are you serious? Every team has NBA players but they are not all the same. There are degrees to which some players are more talented than others. Not even sure I need to provide...
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    Thought that was a very objective and accurate...

    Thought that was a very objective and accurate post.
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    Bosh and VC were elite talents. Carter more than...

    Bosh and VC were elite talents. Carter more than Bosh but when you refer to their 'limitations' as leaders what is the significance of this? Your best players don't have to be leaders, they just have...
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    They have a horrible coach.....that has taken...

    They have a horrible coach.....that has taken them to the Finals. They traded away Harden........ so they could keep Ibaka.

    The only reason they are one of the best teams in the league is they...
  16. Actually thought Masai should just keep quiet and...

    Actually thought Masai should just keep quiet and let players play the games.

    He's trying to take the pressure off the team but it has now grown out of proportion and raps are looking like rank...
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    [QUOTE=white men can't jump;320306]I can't see...

    [QUOTE=white men can't jump;320306]I can't see McDonough getting it. Not since he clearly tried to tank as hard as anybody. Hornacek deserves most of the credit there.

    Who's running Washington? He...
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    Why would McDonough not get credit for their...

    Why would McDonough not get credit for their success? Last time I checked it was him who brought in Bledsoe. Who made an early season trade of Scola for Gerald Green and Plumlee? Both players were...
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    Here's the rub. While we all can see how valuable...

    Here's the rub. While we all can see how valuable Lowry has been to their success, if you just give him what he wants (lets say 4 years $11 million per) you have effectively locked up this core and...
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    The 1st part is a concern to me. If the team...

    The 1st part is a concern to me. If the team didn't work out well he was going to blow it up. It's worked out well for them for 2/3rd's of a season. Does this now mean that this is the direction the...
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    Don't know if I would say a great job. The Andrea...

    Don't know if I would say a great job. The Andrea trade was a decent haul and he traded Rudy(a more talented player) for pieces that are less talented but fit better.

    Core of the team is still...
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    Couple of things about K. Ollie. Most recent...

    Couple of things about K. Ollie. Most recent Durrant interview I saw last week he credits Ollie for changing the culture in OKC when he was an assistant coach there. Says he was instrumental in...
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    So Derozan is better than Ibaka? lol I'll end...

    So Derozan is better than Ibaka? lol I'll end this debate because if you feel that way I don't have anything else to say.

    Your assesment about me having some inferiority complex is way off. You...
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    I think you've completely overvalued the Raptors...

    I think you've completely overvalued the Raptors roster. OKC has 2 superstars and 1 legitimate all-star/defensive player of the year type and you're telling me how I'm overvaluing their team?

    What...
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    You can bring up Westbrook and the knee...

    You can bring up Westbrook and the knee surgeries. has it affected his play negatively in any way when he's on the court. Do you see him having lost any of his explosiveness? Until the knees are...
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