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  1. Thread: The HYPE thread

    by DanH
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    Push tempo, yes. Leak out, no. Main goal in...

    Push tempo, yes. Leak out, no. Main goal in training camp apparently has been to get the wings to sag down and help with defensive rebounding. Blame Ross for listening to Casey I guess. I have no...
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    Frankly, Stiemsma looked pretty bad in this one,...

    Frankly, Stiemsma looked pretty bad in this one, but he didn't have anyone to match up with.

    I don't know how anyone can watch that game and come away thinking "keep Hamilton." He was horrid on...
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    Seconded.

    Seconded.
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    Sticky: You just guessing or do you have a place you look...

    You just guessing or do you have a place you look for predicted values? I'm trying to plan my draft but have never done an auction draft like this where the top players are already gone.
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    BeBe dressing today. Hope we get to see a bunch...

    BeBe dressing today. Hope we get to see a bunch of him.
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    Sure, you can propose that all you like, but I...

    Sure, you can propose that all you like, but I think another team beats that offer. Horford is really, really good.
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    Poll: Too complex. Two team deals are hard enough. ...

    Too complex. Two team deals are hard enough. You will never get 5 teams to agree on stuff.

    Add in that the trade is completely illegal (teams must touch every other team in the deal), and yeah.
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    I'd say Amir, Ross, 2015 1st and 2016 NYK 1st for...

    I'd say Amir, Ross, 2015 1st and 2016 NYK 1st for Horford and Carroll. Hawks will not settle for a low bid.
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    Oops. Sorry.

    Oops. Sorry.
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    To me, you do: To ATL: Amir Ross NYK 2016...

    To me, you do:

    To ATL:
    Amir
    Ross
    NYK 2016 1st
    2015 1st

    To TOR:
    Horford
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    Taj is a bit better in the post, but Amir is...

    Taj is a bit better in the post, but Amir is better on PnR, sets better screens, and spaces the floor better. And Amir is actually pretty underrated in the post too.
  12. Sticky: Just depends on a) exactly who we keep and for...

    Just depends on a) exactly who we keep and for how much (Amir or Lou could be between 0 and 16M committed), b) who gets sent out in a Horford trade, c) who besides Horford comes back this way and d)...
  13. Sticky: Yeah, if we choose to keep either of Amir or Lou,...

    Yeah, if we choose to keep either of Amir or Lou, it is very unlikely we are looking at max cap room in 2016. Both, nowhere close. If a deal is made for Horford, again, no way we have much in way...
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    Taj has looked great defensively. And he's a...

    Taj has looked great defensively. And he's a downgrade offensively from Amir, since we already have a post threat in JV. He is elite with the help D though.

    But he's played for years in Thibs'...
  15. Thread: top 500 is back

    by DanH
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    It's very nice to have our top guy recognized as...

    It's very nice to have our top guy recognized as a legitimate (top 30) top guy.
  16. Sticky: Agreed. If we get Horford, our big depth is set...

    Agreed. If we get Horford, our big depth is set even if Amir is gone. JV can handle more than 30 MPG too - no need for Hansbrough in the regular rotation, just injury insurance.
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    Whoa, if we get Carroll along with Horford, I am...

    Whoa, if we get Carroll along with Horford, I am definitely OK with moving Ross in that deal. Carroll is seriously undervalued.
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    Absolutely. Of course, then Monroe is kind of...

    Absolutely. Of course, then Monroe is kind of irrelevant to the deal, or at least secondary. They are better off maximizing expirings/picks and targeting him in free agency.
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    Millsap, dude. Next summer, free agency.

    Millsap, dude. Next summer, free agency.
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    In theory, the one upside I can see to a deal for...

    In theory, the one upside I can see to a deal for Horford, is if we can keep some of our free agents rather than needing to use cap space. Say the Horford deal is expirings plus Ross plus a pick -...
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    Considering his demands, it was a bit if a...

    Considering his demands, it was a bit if a lose-lose for them. Walking out of the summer with Monroe on a huge max deal is no good for them either. They screwed up by not having a plan in place...
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    Sticky: With Patrick Beverley going for $97 last year,...

    With Patrick Beverley going for $97 last year, imagine what Thad Young goes for this year.
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    Sticky: Cool. Hopefully the rosters update before the...

    Cool. Hopefully the rosters update before the draft, or I'll be nervous.
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    Sticky: I don't know if it was intentional, but several...

    I don't know if it was intentional, but several top guys who went to free agency did so because of a situation like that. One team in particular had 4 or 5 guys who fit that rule and as such they...
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    Sure, but he could still walk for nothing. Why...

    Sure, but he could still walk for nothing. Why take the risk when for zero risk you can sign him outright next summer?
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