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  1. You do catch people by surprise sometimes, but...

    You do catch people by surprise sometimes, but it's not something that persists. I mean, there's no way we didn't catch some teams by surprise after the trade. Lots of people thought it was a tank...
  2. Well the context of "surprise" had more to do...

    Well the context of "surprise" had more to do with teams not expecting a fight from our team, rather than elements of our team being surprising.

    I agree with what you're saying, but considering...
  3. Yeah, probably somewhere in January. Definitely...

    Yeah, probably somewhere in January. Definitely think that means the "surprise" factor is long gone, and should be no part of assessing the upcoming season for the Raps.
  4. Yeah, I can't say for sure why defensive slippage...

    Yeah, I can't say for sure why defensive slippage happened, but I'm going to give fatigue as probably the biggest factor. We had some depth, but also issues. Salmons game dropped off a cliff at some...
  5. Is he though? As much as we cringe at Amir's form...

    Is he though? As much as we cringe at Amir's form when he shoots, he is fairly efficient as a shooter. Faried doesn't really have any range, and his post game has gotten better, but doesn't project...
  6. I don't get the "aren't going to catch anyone by...

    I don't get the "aren't going to catch anyone by surprise" stuff.

    I mean, we were a breakout team last year, and that definitely helped early in the team's strong play. But by January, we were in...
  7. Bold answer: nothing. I agree that it just makes...

    Bold answer: nothing. I agree that it just makes more sense at this point to wait it out and go after him in free agency if that's the plan. (all this obviously with the caveat that I mean within the...
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    What? No they're not.

    What? No they're not.
  9. Indiana: This is what denial looks like

    Now, first off, I realize the coach can't exactly come out and say "we're completely fucked and we'll be lucky if our perimeter play isn't the worst in the league", but this article made me laugh.
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    I was curious so I checked....Essentially, yes,...

    I was curious so I checked....Essentially, yes, except the first game right after the trade @LAL, where Fields started. I'm sure Casey panicked and just picked the oldest wing available to him.
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    Poll: True enough. Though that doesn't mean one should...

    True enough. Though that doesn't mean one should be more optimistic about any specific player, more that it's just a wildcard, as injuries usually are. And they're a bit different for each guy.
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    Poll: I really have to disagree with this. They had a...

    I really have to disagree with this. They had a giant margin for error because of how weak the competition was this year. The only team that had enough talent to force them to play a high-quality,...
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    I don't know about that. He was pretty much the...

    I don't know about that. He was pretty much the consensus 2nd best prospect in the country after Oden, even coming out of high school. And remember who was in the 2006 draft....Other than maybe...
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    Poll: The thing is, Irving hasn't shown any positive...

    The thing is, Irving hasn't shown any positive signs on the mental side. He gets voted into the all-star games because he was a high profile #1 pick who's fun to watch. He excels in "pick-up game"...
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    Poll: I like Wall in that list, but only long-term. The...

    I like Wall in that list, but only long-term. The development of his mental game has been fairly slow, but he's so talented and seems to have a good attitude.

    If Rose never had injury issues, I...
  16. And some Bruno in there too

    And some Bruno in there too
  17. Yeah, this is kinda how I feel, so I don't see a...

    Yeah, this is kinda how I feel, so I don't see a reason to pull this trade.

    I'd rather have the insurance for Amir to start the season. Hansbrough can still be a trade piece if needed for...
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    Training camp is often considered the best time...

    Training camp is often considered the best time to get real work in between coaches and players.

    The current plan means that if they practice hard the first day, they then fly out on legs that...
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    Does anyone else not really like that they start...

    Does anyone else not really like that they start in Toronto and fly to Vancouver after just a day in "camp"? Feel like a day or two will be complete write-offs.

    I'd rather they stay in one spot...
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    I'm surprised they're offering it mostly because...

    I'm surprised they're offering it mostly because of the timing. Pretty late juncture to try such a big shake up, like just a week before camp starts. But given his youth, talent and 2-way ability,...
  21. I was just pointing out that Bebe is a much more...

    I was just pointing out that Bebe is a much more known quantity whose role and position are fairly obvious and not likely to change more than slightly.

    The convo was about freakiness, and...
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    He's just running with a tweet from...

    He's just running with a tweet from BasketballInsiders. I don't know if they're reliable. I mean, for most stories, they're big enough that Woj tweets confirmation and/or you get multiple...
  23. From summer league? He's 22 years old and has...

    From summer league? He's 22 years old and has always been a defensive C with efficient but limited and raw offence. He's been playing in Spain since 2009, which is better basketball than Summer...
  24. He does, but we already have a better read on...

    He does, but we already have a better read on what his game is and what his role will be.

    Bruno has way more intrigue because of he's young, very raw, and has freaky physical tools that open lots...
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    We need a Woj confirmation....too bad this is...

    We need a Woj confirmation....too bad this is such a minor signing. Should know in a week or two I guess.
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