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    IMO this (bold) is the key. But, this might be a...

    IMO this (bold) is the key. But, this might be a chicken or egg question.
    Do 2Pat & Ross "stand around" bec they know GV will just dribble for 20 secs looking for a screen to launch a contested 3 OR...
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    10 PPG & solid D is a decent performance from a...

    10 PPG & solid D is a decent performance from a No 4 or 5 starter, BUT it would be nice something like 8,12,9,11 points over 4 game (10 PPG). With TRoss its more like 3,5,7,25 pts (still 10 PPG)....
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    And 2-3 times a month he would have a game (or...

    And 2-3 times a month he would have a game (or part of) like an all star.
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    Makes sense (see bold). Perhaps brass can get...

    Makes sense (see bold).
    Perhaps brass can get better info (esp if we go to 2nd round) who can "raise" their game & build around those guys.
    With Lou, Amir & TH becoming FA (few less important...
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    If Casey is doing any drills with other guys in...

    If Casey is doing any drills with other guys in order to improve D, it's not really working.
    Does JJ have a tendency to over help? Yes, at times. BUT, why is there a need to switch & help on D with...
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    And "consistent management & coaching" is...

    And "consistent management & coaching" is something he has not had. Finally "tunes in" to Malone & Malone is gone bec DMC gets injured.
    Now another first rounder (Stauskas) gone (following Jimmer & ...
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    You nailed it. See Carmelo, McGrady.... Never...

    You nailed it. See Carmelo, McGrady....
    Never won shit for the team. Tons of personal accolades. Pass
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    Rip Hamilton was not bad either.

    Rip Hamilton was not bad either.
  9. Sticky: Very interesting concept that makes a lot of...

    Very interesting concept that makes a lot of sense.
    Hypothetical problem (see bold part): If I'm say A Davis (or J Parker or Wiggins or even Lebron) I'd go to my GM & insist I want to be in LA after...
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    Don't compare Collison's deal as it was front...

    Don't compare Collison's deal as it was front loaded (I believe something like 12.5 mil first year -when they were under the cap).
    I'd be OK with Amir for 3 years at 4-5 mil with a team option in...
  11. We don't necessarily want to turn him into Demar....

    We don't necessarily want to turn him into Demar. We want Ross to develop Demar's work ethic, so we can stop dreaming about his potential & become a useful rotation player. Demar put a lot of work...
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    You are correct. Shooters could not make shots....

    You are correct. Shooters could not make shots. Who put them there? The only guard that is held somewhat accountable is T Ross. Everybody else - keep shooting.
    There are days when shooters can't...
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    What are yo talking about? Every game starts...

    What are yo talking about?
    Every game starts with a ball going to Jonas. After that Casey tells him: You want the ball? Get a rebound.
    Even when we won 6 straight, I was frustrated.
    Last night: 4...
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    Poll: You are probably correct, but: Not many people...

    You are probably correct, but:
    Not many people thought he was worth 10 mil when he signed current deal few years ago.
  15. Exactly! Somewhat like C Joseph w SA. Now he is...

    Exactly!
    Somewhat like C Joseph w SA. Now he is a solid back up or even a spot starter.
    I doubt T Ross will get any better HERE.
    Also lets remember: Bigs (Plumlee) are always at a premium.
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    Drop the first and it might make sense for both.

    Drop the first and it might make sense for both.
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    This might be interesting. May I tweak it a bit:...

    This might be interesting.
    May I tweak it a bit:
    Tor: David West & Kirilenko;
    Ind: Fields & our first (top 22 protected) or Bruno or Bebe? Maybe Indi choice;
    Phi: Chuck & Indi 2nd.
    Thoughts?
  18. Thread: Miles Plumlee

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    Is he NOW better than Stiemsma? Bebe, our first...

    Is he NOW better than Stiemsma?
    Bebe, our first (top 24 protected -if not a 2nd) for Plumlee & Ennis. Prob not, just trying to piss them off for taking Ennis.
  19. Thread: Western Team

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    Jones might cost a bit more than just Chuck. On...

    Jones might cost a bit more than just Chuck. On top of it how would salaries work? Esp we we have to add another piece?
    As for Hayes: Did he not play for McHale already?
    WRG Batum -great TEAM...
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    Poll: If that is on the table -what is Masai waiting...

    If that is on the table -what is Masai waiting for?
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    Poll: Perhaps the question (who do you trade) is...

    Perhaps the question (who do you trade) is flawed.
    After all you can trade DD for a 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 and the team MAY be better esp. considering we have other options at SG.
    If you trade JV...
  22. Thread: Toronto - Denver

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    Bulls need Chandler a lot more than Gibson.

    Bulls need Chandler a lot more than Gibson.
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    Charles, Lets look at it from GS perspective:...

    Charles,
    Lets look at it from GS perspective: Why take a chance when you are a legit championship contender?
    Trading Lee alone -sure, but both Barnes & Lee? No chance (IMO).
    Barnes for Ross? I'd...
  24. My sentiments WRT Melo as well. As for Jackson...

    My sentiments WRT Melo as well.
    As for Jackson "The legend", the legend part was built as a coach not GM or president.
    IMO best NY can hope is a max for Monroe or Dragic, possibly even both. Still...
  25. -Excellent points. I would like to add: -Amir...

    -Excellent points.
    I would like to add:
    -Amir probably could use more rest;
    -Injuries (unfortunately) will produce some minutes for some;
    -Trade. Depending on how things go -maybe a trade of...
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