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    Default Raptors need to get angry

    Casey does a great job of coaching these guys up but there is a next level that these guys need to take and that white hot rage. Fundamentals only takes you so far

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    Default Another 4th quarter collapse. Coaching is a major problem.

    I don't understand a lot of things that Casey is doing to be honest. Raptors have lost so many games because of their play in the 4th and i think alot of that has to do with coaching.

    Tonight for example:

    - JV was playing so well, got his 4th foul mid 3rd quarter. Never got the chance to play again. Amir fouled out in the OT and i thought JV for sure will come into the game. But Casey for some reason went with AARON GRAY? wtf is going on?

    - Rudy Gay taking quick shots late in the 4th like he has no idea what the score was.

    - DeMar i thought deserved a shot at the end of regulation and OT... never got it. I love Rudy but he's 7/26 on the floor tonight, struggled mightily while DeMar i thought played one of his best game of his career.

    - Where's Landry Fields? he's the Raps best perimeter defender. Why didn't they let him guard Kobe late in the game?

    - As for Kobe's clutch 3 late in the 4th. I thought the Raps should've fouled. Kobe is like a video game in the clutch. He's automatic. Casey and the Raptors coaching staff SHOULD know this.

    - Anderson is really pissing me off. I don't care about his stats tonight. The guy just continues to force everything offensively. At one point Matt and Jack were criticizing the guy because of his poor decisions. DeRozan i thought was pissed off as well late in the 3rd because he wasn't getting any touches while AA continues to chuck shots.
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    I agree with most of the things you said but AA was playing pretty efficient down the stretch. The defence on Kobe wasn't really a prob, you couldn't defend him better than AA was defending him but he just hit the shots anyways. Other than that I agree with everything, especially about Gay. He should have been benched after all the retarded decisions he was making, not attemping the last FG of the game.

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    Quote RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    I agree with most of the things you said but AA was playing pretty efficient down the stretch. The defence on Kobe wasn't really a prob, you couldn't defend him better than AA was defending him but he just hit the shots anyways. Other than that I agree with everything, especially about Gay. He should have been benched after all the retarded decisions he was making, not attemping the last FG of the game.
    I'm starting to hate AA with a passion. His D is overrated and he chucks shots like he's the next MJ, i'd rather have Landry Fields guarding Kobe. The dude doesn't think on offense too often, he gets the ball and doesn't see anything but the rim.
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    Quote NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    I'm starting to hate AA with a passion. His D is overrated and he chucks shots like he's the next MJ, i'd rather have Landry Fields guarding Kobe. The dude doesn't think on offense too often, he gets the ball and doesn't see anything but the rim.
    I've been saying for a week or two now that Alan Anderson must be the second coming of MJ, and Casey sees it but we don't...he's just waiting to be unleashed, in Casey's eyes.

    Seriously though, I don't know how anyone can not be upset with a coach who calls plays for Alan Anderson down the stretch of a close game. People are saying "Kobe just won it"...well fuck, maybe, but one thing is for sure, if it's Kobe vs. AA, you're not going to win. I don't care if you're trying to exploit a matchup...LA was clearly ok giving up the Meeks-AA matchup, because AA is a shit scorer in actuality who pads his stats by chucking lots of 3s. He's never going to score consistently going one on one. Do I think Casey is the worst coach? no. But day by day, I'm starting to think that he might be very wrong for this roster. I don't expect him to get fired, but I do expect he'll be under pressure right from the start of next season.
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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    I've been saying for a week or two now that Alan Anderson must be the second coming of MJ, and Casey sees it but we don't...he's just waiting to be unleashed, in Casey's eyes.

    Seriously though, I don't know how anyone can not be upset with a coach who calls plays for Alan Anderson down the stretch of a close game. People are saying "Kobe just won it"...well fuck, maybe, but one thing is for sure, if it's Kobe vs. AA, you're not going to win. I don't care if you're trying to exploit a matchup...LA was clearly ok giving up the Meeks-AA matchup, because AA is a shit scorer in actuality who pads his stats by chucking lots of 3s. He's never going to score consistently going one on one. Do I think Casey is the worst coach? no. But day by day, I'm starting to think that he might be very wrong for this roster. I don't expect him to get fired, but I do expect he'll be under pressure right from the start of next season.
    Crazy you mentioned that. During last night's game, Lakers up by two 117-115 Raptors ball with not much time on the clock. You would think that Gay or DeRozan would get the ball. Instead they set an iso play for AA. AA got to the rim and got fouled. Went 1 of 2 from the line. Pretty much game over because you knew Kobe would score on the other end.

    Situation like that you gotta give the ball to your BEST players. I know Artest was guarding Gay, Kobe guarding DeMar and Meeks guarding AA. I don't care about all that. You gotta give the ball to your best players PERIOD.
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    Quote white men can't jump wrote: View Post
    I've been saying for a week or two now that Alan Anderson must be the second coming of MJ, and Casey sees it but we don't...he's just waiting to be unleashed, in Casey's eyes.

    Seriously though, I don't know how anyone can not be upset with a coach who calls plays for Alan Anderson down the stretch of a close game. People are saying "Kobe just won it"...well fuck, maybe, but one thing is for sure, if it's Kobe vs. AA, you're not going to win. I don't care if you're trying to exploit a matchup...LA was clearly ok giving up the Meeks-AA matchup, because AA is a shit scorer in actuality who pads his stats by chucking lots of 3s. He's never going to score consistently going one on one. Do I think Casey is the worst coach? no. But day by day, I'm starting to think that he might be very wrong for this roster. I don't expect him to get fired, but I do expect he'll be under pressure right from the start of next season.
    I'm calling it now. If we dont crack 30 wins this season and we start off shit again next season, Casey is gone and if he isn't both BC and DC are going to be gone. The fanbase(as we very well know) are growing restless and if we dont make the playoffs soon we're not going to be a happy bunch.
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    Bad box out's on the defensive end, - leading to offensive rebounding - mental lapses defensively, poor shot selection, and a quiet Rudy Gay - or a loud one in terms of missing so many shots.

    Great effort and play though. Heart breaker really..

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    I really want to know the thinking behind putting Gray in the OT instead of JV. And why JV didn't get much playing time in the 4th. The guy was having a great game.
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    I really want to know the thinking behind putting Gray in the OT instead of JV. And why JV didn't get much playing time in the 4th. The guy was having a great game.
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    Quote TRex wrote: View Post
    I don't understand a lot of things that Casey is doing to be honest. Raptors have lost so many games because of their play in the 4th and i think alot of that has to do with coaching.

    Tonight for example:

    - JV was playing so well, got his 4th foul mid 3rd quarter. Never got the chance to play again. Amir fouled out in the OT and i thought JV for sure will come into the game. But Casey for some reason went with AARON GRAY? wtf is going on?

    - Rudy Gay taking quick shots late in the 4th like he has no idea what the score was.

    - DeMar i thought deserved a shot at the end of regulation and OT... never got it. I love Rudy but he's 7/26 on the floor tonight, struggled mightily while DeMar i thought played one of his best game of his career.

    - Where's Landry Fields? he's the Raps best perimeter defender. Why didn't they let him guard Kobe late in the game?

    - As for Kobe's clutch 3 late in the 4th. I thought the Raps should've fouled. Kobe is like a video game in the clutch. He's automatic. Casey and the Raptors coaching staff SHOULD know this.

    - Anderson is really pissing me off. I don't care about his stats tonight. The guy just continues to force everything offensively. At one point Matt and Jack were criticizing the guy because of his poor decisions. DeRozan i thought was pissed off as well late in the 3rd because he wasn't getting any touches while AA continues to chuck shots.
    Great post, sums up my frustrations exactly.

    The only other complaint I had about Casey last night was why he left his 2nd unit (Lucas, Gray and Anderson) in so long in the 4th, as the big lead was slipping away. Also, I thought Fields played much better defence on Kobe than Anderson did, but Lucas/Gray staying in so long was my big beef.

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    Clearly Casey is better suited to coaching a team largely lacking in talent, so that he can basically make everyone fight for their time on a level playing field. He can't deal with this mix of talent that has a lot of young pieces. Maybe he would be able to coach a fully veteran team as well. But he just seems so wrong for the roster right now it's absurd.

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    Been this way all year..Casey doesn't trust JV int he 4th. He obviously sides with veterans.

    Raptors blowing 4th quarter road leads has been a problem for years, even with Sam Mitchell. If anything its been that way since Colangelo got here.

    Only Amir Johnson raises his game when its on the line i find.

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    Quote JasonS wrote: View Post
    Been this way all year..Casey doesn't trust JV int he 4th. He obviously sides with veterans.

    Raptors blowing 4th quarter road leads has been a problem for years, even with Sam Mitchell. If anything its been that way since Colangelo got here.

    Only Amir Johnson raises his game when its on the line i find.
    He never plays in the 4th, so how can he not trust him? Playoffs are not happening this year unfortunately, so I wanna see as much of Ross and JV as I can.

    I think Casey is trying to save his job by winning games, and BC probably has a say in who he wants to see out there to save his job as well. They were all talking playoffs or bust essentially. They made their bed and shat in it.
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    Quote Mack North wrote: View Post
    He never plays in the 4th, so how can he not trust him? Playoffs are not happening this year unfortunately, so I wanna see as much of Ross and JV as I can.

    I think Casey is trying to save his job by winning games, and BC probably has a say in who he wants to see out there to save his job as well. They were all talking playoffs or bust essentially. They made their bed and shat in it.
    MLSE needs to clean the house and kick BC and DC out. We need a real GM and a real coach, i wish we had signed Rick Adelman instead
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    Quote Mack North wrote: View Post
    I think Casey is trying to save his job by winning games, and BC probably has a say in who he wants to see out there to save his job as well. They were all talking playoffs or bust essentially. They made their bed and shat in it.
    But the weird thing now, is that there's been a few games where playing JV would have given them their best chance to win. Which undermines the philosophy that it's because they are trying to win games. I would love to hear DC thoughts on JV's fourth qtr minutes as well.
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    bye dc. show him the door

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    The vane was lost on one sided calls and nobody fouling Kobe when he went for the tie. Casey told them to foul immediately the players let it play out guy has been here before played Kobe many times not an idiot.

    I can't defend the Gray thing thoughand the JV not playing in crunch when Amir fouled out. Bottom line the game Casey out coached Dantoni and everyone Balled star treatment won it for LAL

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    Quote Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    The vane was lost on one sided calls and nobody fouling Kobe when he went for the tie. Casey told them to foul immediately the players let it play out guy has been here before played Kobe many times not an idiot.

    I can't defend the Gray thing thoughand the JV not playing in crunch when Amir fouled out. Bottom line the game Casey out coached Dantoni and everyone Balled star treatment won it for LAL
    really?? i thought the refs did a good job for a change yesterday. casey never out coached anyone! infact he's directly to blame for most of our meltdowns this season.. his love of AA, his refusal to play the rook's, his lack of offensive knowledge, his horrid sub patterns are absolutely killing this team this year!! T.Ross has already had his confidence drained by DC & if were not carefull DC's going to take the jam out of Jonas's jelly donut too!!

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    Quote DoNDaDDa wrote: View Post
    really?? i thought the refs did a good job for a change yesterday. casey never out coached anyone! infact he's directly to blame for most of our meltdowns this season.. his love of AA, his refusal to play the rook's, his lack of offensive knowledge, his horrid sub patterns are absolutely killing this team this year!! T.Ross has already had his confidence drained by DC & if were not carefull DC's going to take the jam out of Jonas's jelly donut too!!

    @FireDCbeforeItstooLate!!

    @RudyAintAllThat!!

    @AlanAndersonIsAScrub
    +1 I thought the refs did a good job as well. It was the coaching the substitutions, the executions, the same old shit that we see every 4th qtr that's what bothers me.

    Been saying this for a long time now. Raptors need a new coach. Love Casey, good guy but i don't think he's an NBA caliber coach.
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